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Any players coming through??
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Around this time every year a player breaks into the first team: Rooney, Vaughan, Anichebe, does anyone know if there are any players who could break into the first team this year?
We know of Vidarsson and Boyle, but what of the development of other players... Agard maybe? Could it be that the strengh of our first team will put back the development of the promising youngsters by a year? Maybe a third round FA cup draw against a minnow might allow a little first team action. To me we seem to have seen the best of what we have for the time being.
Chris Keightley, Posted 26/11/2007 at 13:55:10
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Graham Eaves
2 Posted 26/11/2007 at 14:47:26
2 Posted 26/11/2007 at 14:47:26
Word on the street is Jose Baxter
Alex Baker
3 Posted 26/11/2007 at 15:09:08
3 Posted 26/11/2007 at 15:09:08
I think that Jutkiewicz or Vidarsson have the best chance of first team action, but with the team now firing on all cyclinders I can’t see Moyes changing it now.
Dave Sheedy
4 Posted 26/11/2007 at 15:57:06
4 Posted 26/11/2007 at 15:57:06
The name on everyones lips is Rodwell, Jack Rodwell a cultured center half. Even England coaches are talking him up!!!
John Martin
5 Posted 26/11/2007 at 16:03:08
5 Posted 26/11/2007 at 16:03:08
I cant see Viddarrson making it, he’s been at the club long enough and has had no impact even when the squad had injuries he was sent out on loan,
Like most i am eager to see Rodwell & Baxter but Kissock will probably be the next who makes the step up
Like most i am eager to see Rodwell & Baxter but Kissock will probably be the next who makes the step up
Dave Campbell
6 Posted 26/11/2007 at 16:28:57
6 Posted 26/11/2007 at 16:28:57
Jack Rodwell !!!!
He Is already training with the 1st team (apparently) and could beat Vaughan?s debut record.
Recently committed another 2 years to EFC despite Chelsea, Manure, Barcelona and the likes chasing his signature.
He Is already training with the 1st team (apparently) and could beat Vaughan?s debut record.
Recently committed another 2 years to EFC despite Chelsea, Manure, Barcelona and the likes chasing his signature.
Colonel Moran
7 Posted 26/11/2007 at 16:55:29
7 Posted 26/11/2007 at 16:55:29
barcelona were chasing his signature?
are you sure?
are you sure?
Gavin McDonald
8 Posted 26/11/2007 at 17:00:32
8 Posted 26/11/2007 at 17:00:32
Moyes hand may be forced during the oncoming busy schedule and the African Nations cup.
Connor Rohrer
9 Posted 26/11/2007 at 17:11:42
9 Posted 26/11/2007 at 17:11:42
No one really springs to mind. I’m not totally convinced with Vidarsson and I dont think Moyes is either. He’s neat and tidy but far to lightweight despite being atleast 6ft 1. I think Kissock will be one for maybe the end of this season or possibly next. He’s a quality little player in the Osman mould but again his height and physique dont held him in todays game.
The likes of Agard, Baxter and Rodwell are well off but there is no doubt there talent. Agard probably most similar to AJ in terms of style. Small, quick, decent finisher and good work rate. Rodwell is definatly going to be a fixture in the next few years but I think it will take time and a few loan spells. Young players and especially young centre half’s need time.
Jose Baxter, is obviously the one everyone’s talking about and there is a lot of promise there from what I have seen. He is technically better than Rooney was around that age. Maybe not as explosive but definatly more aware with a better football brain. If he keeps developing at this rate we’ve got a great footballer on our hands. Shame he’s a Kopite.
The likes of Agard, Baxter and Rodwell are well off but there is no doubt there talent. Agard probably most similar to AJ in terms of style. Small, quick, decent finisher and good work rate. Rodwell is definatly going to be a fixture in the next few years but I think it will take time and a few loan spells. Young players and especially young centre half’s need time.
Jose Baxter, is obviously the one everyone’s talking about and there is a lot of promise there from what I have seen. He is technically better than Rooney was around that age. Maybe not as explosive but definatly more aware with a better football brain. If he keeps developing at this rate we’ve got a great footballer on our hands. Shame he’s a Kopite.
Chris Cook
10 Posted 26/11/2007 at 17:22:14
10 Posted 26/11/2007 at 17:22:14
Ah Jack, currently the star of my Everton Football Manager team
if the game is as realistic as it claims to be, he’s a very good prospect
if the game is as realistic as it claims to be, he’s a very good prospect
Gavin Harris
11 Posted 26/11/2007 at 18:03:09
11 Posted 26/11/2007 at 18:03:09
Heard Jose Baxter is a great player. Anyone seen him play live?
If he is a redshite then we need to worry as he’ll be off. If Rooney can fuck us over then a reshite certainly will.
If he is a redshite then we need to worry as he’ll be off. If Rooney can fuck us over then a reshite certainly will.
Stefan Tosev
12 Posted 26/11/2007 at 19:55:30
12 Posted 26/11/2007 at 19:55:30
Connor Rohrer if he is good enough (Kissock) the size doesnt matter, from what I have seen so far he operates on the wings and if he is skilful enough it would not be a problem.
Messi,Giuly are smal but boy can they play, he may need a loan spell with Preston maybe?
Messi,Giuly are smal but boy can they play, he may need a loan spell with Preston maybe?
Michael Newton
13 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:05:00
13 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:05:00
Rush, Owen, McManaman, Fowler... all bluenoses. About time the Redshite repaid us back with a few of theirs.
Norman Merrill
14 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:14:48
14 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:14:48
For those who have not seen Jose Baxter
just tune into Sky sports on Thurs night, and watch him play for england U16 youth
Victory shield play off against Scotland.
He is some prospect.
just tune into Sky sports on Thurs night, and watch him play for england U16 youth
Victory shield play off against Scotland.
He is some prospect.
Rob Heaton
15 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:27:35
15 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:27:35
Aparantly Ossie was a redshite as a kid and he?s been pretty loyal so far.
Also isn?t Vaughny a brum fan?
A player will be loyal depending on the type of person not who they used to support so don?t worry about the kids supporting another team
Also isn?t Vaughny a brum fan?
A player will be loyal depending on the type of person not who they used to support so don?t worry about the kids supporting another team
Chris Lee
16 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:42:30
16 Posted 26/11/2007 at 20:42:30
Jose is a joy to watch. Been far and away the best player on the pitch for England in their first two games.
Our Under 18s are in fantastic form. Level at the top of the league with City, 35 points from 14 games. The bulk of our side is made up of 16 year olds aswell, we probably have the youngest side in the league!
Our Under 18s are in fantastic form. Level at the top of the league with City, 35 points from 14 games. The bulk of our side is made up of 16 year olds aswell, we probably have the youngest side in the league!
Jack Daou
17 Posted 26/11/2007 at 21:07:33
17 Posted 26/11/2007 at 21:07:33
Jack Rodwell
Jose Baxter
J-P Kissock (chelsea and man city approached him)
Kieran Agard
Lars Stuabhaug
Scott Spencer
nothing more said
Jose Baxter
J-P Kissock (chelsea and man city approached him)
Kieran Agard
Lars Stuabhaug
Scott Spencer
nothing more said
Connor Rohrer
18 Posted 26/11/2007 at 21:21:26
18 Posted 26/11/2007 at 21:21:26
Stefan, for one John Paul-Kissock isn’t a winger he’s an attacking central midfielder. Yes he has got a bit of skill about him but he is what I would call severely lightweight. The boys smaller than Osman and also has average pace like Osman.
Throwing him in at such a young age could finish his career and damage his confidence. He’s physically still not up to pace with what the Premiership is all about. He needs time as do all the young players to develop and get that confidence.
Throwing him in at such a young age could finish his career and damage his confidence. He’s physically still not up to pace with what the Premiership is all about. He needs time as do all the young players to develop and get that confidence.
Macca Biggins
19 Posted 26/11/2007 at 22:01:39
19 Posted 26/11/2007 at 22:01:39
Jack Rodwell is pure class, a cultured/footballing centre who will be a regular first team player within 2 years! Barca, Man U and Liverpool have all definatly chased his signature although he remains at the blues!!!!!
Jack Johnson
20 Posted 26/11/2007 at 22:28:06
20 Posted 26/11/2007 at 22:28:06
What happened to Scott Spencer, the lad we signed from Oldham. He was supposed to be top class wasn’t he?
Kieran Kinsella
21 Posted 26/11/2007 at 23:00:30
21 Posted 26/11/2007 at 23:00:30
I think that it is good that our youngsters may have their premiership debuts delayed because of the quality of our first team. Too often down the years we’ve seen players who are over exposed as youngsters and end up retiring before their time e.g. Norman Whiteside, Tomas Brolin, Jesper Blomqvist, Lee Sharpe etc. All of them were amazing at 17, inconsistent at 25 and finished by 30. I fear that Jeffers and Owen may go the same way due to injuries etc.
I think we also are lucky that youngsters know that the regimes at Arsenal and Liverpool have an aversion to young British talent and know that their career options at those clubs would be severly limited. We now should have an easier time attracting the next Tony Adams (Rodwell ?) the next Owen etc. Once our youngsters are ready to play then we can always sell off their older, higher paid team mates like Yakubu and Johnson if need be and go to a new stadium with a team that will be the Man Utd of the next decade. OK last bit was a little over the top.
I think we also are lucky that youngsters know that the regimes at Arsenal and Liverpool have an aversion to young British talent and know that their career options at those clubs would be severly limited. We now should have an easier time attracting the next Tony Adams (Rodwell ?) the next Owen etc. Once our youngsters are ready to play then we can always sell off their older, higher paid team mates like Yakubu and Johnson if need be and go to a new stadium with a team that will be the Man Utd of the next decade. OK last bit was a little over the top.
Brian Garside
22 Posted 27/11/2007 at 00:28:44
22 Posted 27/11/2007 at 00:28:44
Strong enough!!!
What would have been said to Crouch when younger?
Don´t blood them to soon! ! !
What would have been said to Crouch when younger?
Don´t blood them to soon! ! !
Ged Fox
23 Posted 27/11/2007 at 16:27:33
23 Posted 27/11/2007 at 16:27:33
Jose Baxter is my cousin’s son and met the lad recently. Pleasant, unassuming boy.
Unfortunately he does come from the RS side of the family. However, his Mum thinks Everton have been great with him and expects him to be there for some time to come. To quote her, "I’d be happy if he signed up until he was 35!!"
Apparently, when he was 7-8 he was training at both academies. Everton were happy with the arrangement, and for the boy/family to make a decision who to go with when he was a bit older. However, our loveable neighbours got a bit indignant and wanted him to make a choice........
Watched him for England U16 a few weeks ago and he does look a class act. A great footballing brain, with a bit of ’attitude’. Fingers crossed he develops and stays on the straight and narrow.
Unfortunately he does come from the RS side of the family. However, his Mum thinks Everton have been great with him and expects him to be there for some time to come. To quote her, "I’d be happy if he signed up until he was 35!!"
Apparently, when he was 7-8 he was training at both academies. Everton were happy with the arrangement, and for the boy/family to make a decision who to go with when he was a bit older. However, our loveable neighbours got a bit indignant and wanted him to make a choice........
Watched him for England U16 a few weeks ago and he does look a class act. A great footballing brain, with a bit of ’attitude’. Fingers crossed he develops and stays on the straight and narrow.
Kieran Fitzgerald
24 Posted 27/11/2007 at 17:30:27
24 Posted 27/11/2007 at 17:30:27
With so many games between now and the end of December we are bound to pick up injuries and suspensions. The thing is though, we do have almost a completely fit senior squad at the moment, which should cover losses as each position has back up.
If we do get through the run of games reasonably free of injuries and suspensions it may well be the end of February or the middle of March before we could feel the pinch again. At that stage, if we are still in the running for a Uefa Cup spot it is hard to know if the wiser option would be to rotate what fit utility players we have.
Also, many of our senior players have signed long term contracts. If we do get the success by may that seems possible at this stage tof the season,hose contracts could be honoured by the players who would see a good future for themselves at the club. This would make it hard to see how the young players would get their chance, both in the short term and the long term.
If we do get through the run of games reasonably free of injuries and suspensions it may well be the end of February or the middle of March before we could feel the pinch again. At that stage, if we are still in the running for a Uefa Cup spot it is hard to know if the wiser option would be to rotate what fit utility players we have.
Also, many of our senior players have signed long term contracts. If we do get the success by may that seems possible at this stage tof the season,hose contracts could be honoured by the players who would see a good future for themselves at the club. This would make it hard to see how the young players would get their chance, both in the short term and the long term.
Mick Mac
25 Posted 27/11/2007 at 18:45:36
25 Posted 27/11/2007 at 18:45:36
I dont know why people keep saying JPK isnt big enough. He is a quality player who has vision and a good pass. He should be given a chance at l;east at sub.
Didnt we lose Michael Owen because someone thought he was too small???
Didnt we lose Michael Owen because someone thought he was too small???
Charly Cawley
26 Posted 12/07/2008 at 16:44:30
26 Posted 12/07/2008 at 16:44:30
I am a Liverpool fan and i used to be good mates with Jose Baxter. I can tell you he is absolutley quality and if he ever plays for the first team at everton i will support both Jose and the everton.
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1 Posted 26/11/2007 at 14:41:29