Just a short note for the small group of contributors who are having problems getting their views heard here on ToffeeWeb. I apolgise in advance for clogging up the mailbag with this but I can't think of any other way to reach those who are giving us false names and e.mail addresses. Yes, "Sylvia Lymbery", I'm thinking especially of you.
Submitting your comments under a variety of very creative aliases was fun for a while, no doubt. But we track incoming by IP address and comparing styles soon made it clear to us what you were doing, which is why your last 30 or so contributions have been queued for review rather than posted directly. You are not alone: we also monitor other posters who are unable to meet the minimal conditions for posting here on ToffeeWeb.
You may object to revealing your identity and that's fine. It just means your opinion will not be heard on these pages. If that opinion is worth hearing, we reason that it is also worth standing behind. Which means giving us your full name (no nicknames please) and providing a valid e.mail address. It's really not that much to ask. Thanks!
Michael Kenrick, Posted 29/11/2007 at 03:37:52
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1 Posted 29/11/2007 at 09:17:40
Take care Big Brother is watching-and he may well be an Evertonian!
2 Posted 29/11/2007 at 09:54:28
3 Posted 29/11/2007 at 09:59:46
4 Posted 29/11/2007 at 10:05:22
5 Posted 29/11/2007 at 10:14:15
I can’t believe that a fellow Evertonian could do that to another Evertonian - unbelievable.
Secondly, Michael why was my post edited yesterday on the Phil Neville thread?
Was it because you don’t agree with my pro-Moyes views?
6 Posted 29/11/2007 at 11:21:58
7 Posted 29/11/2007 at 11:23:19
I read this editorial clamp down with great sadness.
Throughout the history of the written word, people have used alias?s for a variety of reasons.
Please explain what it is that forces you to take such action.
Everyone from Boz to Pendennis to George Orwell have not used thier real names and carried on writing and airing their views. Would you be banning a contributor called Dutch, or is it ok if you know the person.
If you have been known by your nickname for your whole life, is this not good enough for you to use this when posting?
Newspapers, magazines and authors all have unknown contributors. br />
You should reconsider this editorial move or your Independent site will become a little less Independent.
Whatever next. Are you saying if all these people use their real names you will submit their posts in their entireity.
Don?t lose that little bit of specialness that is Toffeeweb. Some of the most thought provoking and funniest posts come from alias?s.
This is not a step forward for the group that call themselves Evertonians.
Guys. Dont turn into all those other bland websites. For the love of Everton and our first trophy in years, reconsider.
A blue who uses his real name, but appreciates and understands those that dont.
8 Posted 29/11/2007 at 11:54:27
9 Posted 29/11/2007 at 12:05:18
Why are they hiding?
What are you going to do?
Track down the name of the person you see or the view you don?t like?
It is a forum for views.
The stupid posts are stupid posts, plain and simple.
How do you know that any name seen is their real name.
It is a retrograde step my friend and something China, Russia, South Korea and other such countries are specialists in.
Are Evertonians and Toffeeweb not robust enough to bat away a few idiots.
As lopng as it?s not racist or gratuitously offensive then what is the problem.
Scousers and those associated with the club are funny people.
Let the masses post.
It is a fine line between censorship and dictatorship.
Toffeeweb have control over a very valuable asset and probably the best footy website around.
Banning such post will change all that.
It is a magical site with a miriad of contributors.
Let me put forward one more thought.
What if one of those non real name posters is a current player or an ex player?
They could never use their real name.
Are we to refuse such people a voice.
We are Toffees, Evertonians and The Peoples Club. We have put up with far worse than a few rogue posters.
Get a grip Toffeeweb and reconsider.
Harry Dean or not Harry Dean
10 Posted 29/11/2007 at 12:24:41
I think Toffeeweb is such a great site because it gives space for different opinions, without being the standard bashing-childish abuse site so many internet sites are these days. To prevent the latter, they need rules for the mailbag. It is up to the Toffeeweb-team to choose the rules they think are appropriate.
Of course, you can make your voice heard, like you do just now. If nothing changes and you still feel uncomfortable, vote with your feet: just stay away from toffeeweb.
And BTW, I don’t think Michael is referring to tongue-in-cheeck mailbag-comments from ’Riquelme’ or ’David Moyes’, just to name two examples. The funny posts will still reach the mailbag, I reckon.
The reason I come here is because of the quality of the debates. I’m afraid that less rules will lower the quality drastically. I’m not looking for the next bash-and-slash forum.
Keep it up, toffeeweb!
11 Posted 29/11/2007 at 13:32:54
I use the same alias every time I post and I have a valid e-mail address under the same name.
I will happily stand by my points but unless somebody wants to come round to mine to congratulate me on the veracity of my claims, or the eloquent way in which they were expressed, I can’t see why they need to know my name. If this admission now results in my being banned from posting then so be it. I shall also get my Everton news elsewhere.
12 Posted 29/11/2007 at 13:42:03
13 Posted 29/11/2007 at 13:56:29
14 Posted 29/11/2007 at 15:11:55
But I think we’re overreacting it a bit. The original post was about someone who posted under an alias _and_ failed to provide a valid email address.
If Michael wanted to know my real name, all he had to do is to drop me an email.
It’s not that simple if you give a false email address, however.
15 Posted 29/11/2007 at 15:35:02
I think as long as you use a consistent name and persona, then there?s no problem. We?re hopeful of implementing a system soon to make that an acceptable reality while also requiring a valid e-mail address.
And Tony W, as long as the e-mail address is valid (i.e. we can contact you on it and you reply!) then you're fine. When we get a combination of inane post + multiple aliases + invalid e-mail address, then that's a recipe to have your submissions vetted. The point isn't make it difficult for the honest contributor, rather to preserve (as much as is possible) the kind of standard that keeps you coming back to TW in the first place :)
16 Posted 29/11/2007 at 15:59:25
17 Posted 29/11/2007 at 21:34:32
18 Posted 01/12/2007 at 20:03:24