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I recently sent the following e-mail to the FA:

I read today that disciplinary procedures have commenced against the Everton FC manager, Mr David Moyes following his reaction to the performance of the referee Mr Mark Clattenburg in the recent fixture Everton v. Liverpool. I suggest that the FA would have greater credibility in the eyes of the football public if it were to raise a charge of 'bringing the game into disrepute' against Mr Clattenburg.

Anyone who witnessed his performance would be aware of his gross incompetence in dealing with a number of key incidents in that game. If you are stating that it was not incompetence, then any reasonable person could only conclude that it was deliberate and therefore bias. I would welcome your comments on and assessment of Mr Clattenburg's performance in the said game.

Thank you.

This is the reply I got:

Many thanks for contacting The Football Association.

As you are aware, Everton manager David Moyes has been charged with improper conduct. The charge relates to media comments made about Mark Clattenburg following the Merseyside derby on 20 October. It is alleged that his comments called into question Mr Clattenburg's integrity and/or implied that he was motivated by bias.

Whilst recognising that the football public is interested to hear from football players, managers and others, and whilst appreciating the pressures of the modern game, The FA expects certain standards to be upheld in relation to public comments by participants.

Irrespective of any perceived provocation, all players, coaches and administrators are duty bound to behave in a manner befitting the good image of the game.

There is a system in place for monitoring the performance of referees and referee's assistants. The performances of Select Group referees? (those that officiate in the Premier League) are assessed by the Professional Game Match Officials (PGMO) and appointments made accordingly. The performances of referees over a season are then taken into consideration when the leagues appoint their referees for the following season.

Kind regards,

Alex Howells | Customer Relations Officer

In a word — PATHETIC!
John McAllister, UK     Posted 04/12/2007 at 17:13:16

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Allan Hobbs
1   Posted 04/12/2007 at 21:15:39

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John - not sure what you were hoping to achieve there mate; you should probably count yourself lucky to have got a reply at all.

The FA seem to have covered all bases really, that reads like a pretty fair response in my opinion. DM made comments about Clattenburg which he’ll probably have to take some form of punishment for. The rules are the rules mate, even if we agree that Clattenburg was rubbish that day (and in the Utd game recently) you can’t go round calling people cheats and expect not to get your knuckles rapped.
Dominic Fitzpatrick
2   Posted 04/12/2007 at 21:13:13

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"The FA expects certain standards to be upheld in relation to public comments by participants."

Well maybe if the people they employed upheld certain standards then there would be no need for such comments.

There is no room for free speech at the FA at all. Moyes was very careful what he said knowing full well he would get in to trouble. Until we have people in charge who actually understand the rules of the game (ex pros for example) football will continue to suffer at the hands of incompetent bureaucrats.
John McAllister
3   Posted 04/12/2007 at 22:34:03

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Allan - just trying to make a point to the FA that the punishment should not be one way. I was quite serious about the ’disrepute’ charge. The FA hand them out quick enough to players and managers but when a referee makes laughable decisions which even reds like Alan Hansen or Alan Green criticise, then surely the FA should be seen to act.
Rob Jones
4   Posted 05/12/2007 at 00:51:10

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?There is a system in place for monitoring the performance of referees and referee?s assistants?

!!!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET SACKED AS A REF THEN? KILL A LIVERPOOL PLAYER? no wait thats a death sentence, KILL ANY OTHER PLAYER?

jesus those blathering idiots at the ENGLISH FA make me glad im welsh, no offence to the rest of England
Dan Parker
5   Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:54:54

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Hey Rob,

Don’t the English FA also represent Cardiff and Wrexham?
Michael Parkes
6   Posted 06/12/2007 at 12:11:18

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Yes Clattenberg was awful in the Liverpool match, however I dont understand the problems with the charge.

Moyes did do what the FA are charging him of doing. We all get heated, however if someone has suspicions of bias or something related, shouting it in the media will not bring justice.

This is an example of terrible refereeing, however we must not forget that referees should be respected, if there is a case of wrong doing the FA should come in. Yet if the FA allowed clubs to openly criticise every refereeing decision then imagine what would happen, the big clubs would always get their way. John Terry and co would be able to abuse refs into submission on the pitch, that should not be allowed.

Football should follow Rugbys example, all players must call the ref sir, as a mark of respect, and if a player swares at the ref then its the sin-bin. However, what also happens is that the ref has a mic, so we can here the converstation between ref and player, so everyone knows why a decision is made, this makes the ref more accountable and easier to discipline etc.

What is needed is a wholescale change in refereeing, however allowing managers to make such accusations week in week out would not improve anything.

Also, if you sacked a ref for evey bad game then we would have no refs.
Ravi Samuel
7   Posted 07/12/2007 at 09:43:15

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It is all quite interesting. As I understand it, heaven forbid you criticise a referee, but the Prime Minister, well, that?s OK. Pray tell, why is that?

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