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Sharing a thought

Noticed on paper talk on the ceefax that Liverpool are talking about abandoning the stadium build because of the credit squeeze in the USA. I wonder how Everton fans would veiw a groundshare now? Would it unite the Yes/No Kirkby debate or would it create a bigger rift in the ranks?

I am a dyed in the blue Yes voter but I would also be a supporter of a shared stadium. Not sure how the funding would go and still wouldn't expect the LCC to come up with much un the form of funding. But the thought must now be crossing all the parties minds. Would there be an action group set up against the plan...
Mick Mac, St Helens Posted 15/12/2007 at 10:05:22

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Peter Pickles
1 Posted 15/12/2007 at 16:26:28

Behave yerself. That one got buried ages ago.Besides we cant afford it.

"dyed in the blue"? From St.Helens. Surely dyed in the wool blue.

(only joking)

Carl Hamlet
2 Posted 15/12/2007 at 16:40:53

Id rather share a stadium also, if the terms were right. Many other great pair of clubs do the same.

Glen Strachan
3 Posted 15/12/2007 at 17:16:50

BIG RUMOUR!

Remember where you heard it first !

Liverpool want to groundshare out at Kirkby.

Pinch of salt anybody ?

Phil Roberts
4 Posted 15/12/2007 at 17:19:43

Let’s start a rumour that Liverpool want to do a deal with Asda to have a ground in Kirkby leaving Everton free to move to a new stadium in Stanley Park :-)

Everybody happy!

Brian Waring
5 Posted 15/12/2007 at 17:28:28

Mick, I think you will find that they are not abandoning their plans for the stadium build,they are re-thinking plans to spend £700m on the stadium.

Tony Horne
6 Posted 15/12/2007 at 17:36:06

Unless and until we can match their level of investment any joint arrangement would hardly be an equal one. If anyone really thinks it would be a positive step to put ourselves in a position to be lorded over by the likes of them then please explain this to me.........

KevJohn Mitchell
7 Posted 15/12/2007 at 17:40:46

Mick Mac, you voted to go to Kirkby, now you want to share with Liverpool in Stanley Park, why can?t you have the same enthusiasm to redevelop Goodison?
Is it something to do with coming from St Helens that you don?t care where we locate as long as it?s not Goodison Road!

Adam Harris
8 Posted 15/12/2007 at 18:54:46

Can’t say that i would be thrilled with a groundshare. But if I were wearing my sensible trousers I’d have to say it made sense.

In today’s world with debates on global warming, credit crunch and sites to build decreasing due to demands to build more private dwellings it would indeed make sense.

But rest assured it will never happen.

Mick Mac
9 Posted 15/12/2007 at 19:29:46

Kevin I have never said that Goodison revamp wouldn't be a good option or that the loop wouldnt be either. I think the Kirkby project is more feasible or as Bully puts it 'deliverable'. To be fair as well yes I am from St Helens and to me Kirkby is Liverpool was Liverpool and always will be Liverpool. They talk the same, have the same quick wit, and when I have played football against them are as passionate as anyone I have ever met.

Kevin Mitchell
10 Posted 15/12/2007 at 20:51:18

Mick, maybe you have never said it, but I feel the big difference between us no and yes voters is that whilst you seem to easily accept the Kirkby option (because the board told you it was the best option) we no voters are fighting this to the death for a better deal, i.e. a modern stadium in the city of our birthwright.
The amount of true evertonians that will be lost will be unreversible.
That is my honest opinion.

Tom Hughes
11 Posted 15/12/2007 at 21:18:16

I am wary of groundshare, as I feel it can dilute identity, and there have been times when that has been all we had to cling to. People regularly refer to Italian clubs.... has it really benefitted Lazio and Roma? Has it benefitted Torino.... or even Juventus for that matter? If so why are, or have all these clubs actively looked for their own stadia. Even the Milan clubs have also done similar recently. Did Wimbledon or Charlton thrive while sharing (1 died, the other nearly died), albeit someone else’s stadium? Did Man City thrive when Man Utd shared Maine Rd post war, whereupon Utd gained a foothold in their territory and became the bigger club overall? A lot of variables have to align for it to truly work IMO. Each club has to be the equal partner, otherwise the other becomes the poor relation, the lodger..... Equality is surely a contradiction in any competitive relationship, we aspire to be better than the other. Your stadium is a major part of your identity, I’m not sure 2 club’s identities can be really rationalised into one stadium (even if it changes colour), however beneficial it may appear in the short term. Identity is absolutely priceless!!

Steve Sweeney
12 Posted 16/12/2007 at 01:48:59

What a load of bollocks, let the red shite die in their own debt, we should just get on with playing good football, once the Kirkby residents get behind ASDA to develop their Towny we will have to develop Goodison.
Let them yanks continue to franchise the shite.

Roy Coyne
13 Posted 16/12/2007 at 04:24:25

Steve Sweeney, I could not agree more. I hope Asda get the site and the dark side go bust.