ToffeeWeb - Season 2007-08

The Mail Bag

Fernandes on way out

According to Portuguese Sports Daily A Bola, Manuel Fernandes is on his way out of Valencia in the January transfer window after making little or no impact during his time there. The big question is of course where will he go...?
Paul Waring, Lisbon Portugal Posted 18/12/2007 at 11:00:00

back Return to the Mail Bag

Comments

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer

Dutch Schaffaer
1 Posted 18/12/2007 at 14:27:11

This is a guy who shook hands with Moyes/Kenwright, appeared at a game, signed autographs for fans and then the following day signed for another club.

He showed Everton no respect and I dont see any reason why Moyes would go back for him. Pienaar is a better player anyway.

Andy Martin
2 Posted 18/12/2007 at 14:30:50

Yes Dutch, because you know everything that happened behind the scenes. I forgot about that...

Colin Jones
3 Posted 18/12/2007 at 14:38:37

Make him beg, then snap him up on a loaner. If we?re courting him then no way. He?s have to grovel I assume. he is a good player, but his spell with us seems to have been relatively injury free compared to the rest of his career. Fancy moving away from a club only to find that the manager from the old gaff is the new boss at your new gaff!

Chris Keightley
4 Posted 18/12/2007 at 14:36:24

Totally agree Andy there has been no official statement at all the fact that Everton dilly dallied in the first place allowed Valencia all the time in the world to come in for him. As far as I'm concerned the player did what he thought best which he is entitled to do and he went on to sign on the dotted line elsewhere. Who wouldn't with the possibility of ending up without and football? I would welcome him back as would many on this site unless Dutch you had a beer with him and he showed you written evidence of what went on.

Shez Khan
5 Posted 18/12/2007 at 14:44:15

Would love having him back especially as Osman is now out for 6 weeks and apparently Gravesen?s knees have gone so we wont be making that move permanent.

But we need to sort out a permanent deal for Fernandes and not arse about with another loan deal.

COYB

Stefan Tosev
6 Posted 18/12/2007 at 14:55:55

It would be good to take him on loan but we forget one major obstacle called - third-party agreement. The player has still contract with Che and his parent company and I doubt that Moyes will go through all the difficulties again to sign him

Andrew Birtles
7 Posted 18/12/2007 at 15:09:09

Lets just get it all into perspective, any Evertonian would snap Valencia?s hand off to have Manny back at the club, we know nothing as to why he signed for Valencia in the summer, and no-one can say they?d rather have Gravesen in the team than Fernandes. one thing for sure though, we will sign a top class midfielder in January.

Andrew Oxton
8 Posted 18/12/2007 at 15:24:08

I was as dissapointed as anyone that he didnt sign on the dotted line, but if we can sign him this time, i would be delighted. the guy is a fantastic player, he may have left for the money, or his agent, who gives a shit, for a player as good as him, we should be happy to give him a second chance.

Dan Smith
9 Posted 18/12/2007 at 15:29:30

I never quite got it with Fernandes. He is obviously talented and might go on to great things, but for most of his time at Goodison he was only sporadically effectual. Pienaar has had a far a stronger impact than Manny had. And while we don’t know the full truth of what went on with the transfer, it took ages because of the way his ownership was shared and the club were right to be wary. That they got screwed over in the end to my mind only supports the view that we had a lucky escape. Manny had a chance to be part of the club’s future but now I think its an episode best left in the past.

Dave Brown
10 Posted 18/12/2007 at 15:47:48

would rather have him back than Downing. Think he would do well in midfield the way we are playing - but would you rather we sign him or pienar if there was a choice to be made?

Brett Bradshaw
11 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:06:48

Geez not this old chessnut again. Manny this, Manny that. Everytime somebody talks about Manny, we link him here and we go around in circles, I would love to have him back, I wouldn?t love to have him back etc. Lets face facts No matter what happend behind the scenes WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN HIM. Moyes would not go there, nor would he want to go through the 3rd party thing again (which will now rule out a loan). I think we will be going for Apaih, considering I hear its almost a done deal!

Ade Senior
12 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:09:06

**************************************************
but would you rather we sign him or pienar if there was a choice to be made?
**************************************************

Piena(a)r without a doubt

Brett Bradshaw
13 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:14:50

I agree Ade, Pienaar. Class act, work rate very good and WANTS to play for us.

Colin Jones
14 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:13:49

bb how do you know appiah is almost a done deal?

Brett Bradshaw
15 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:19:15

The deal was almost done transfer deadline day however the player was hurt and it was a lot worse than first thought. The deal was put on hold but the terms remained the same and agreed. Its been reported (radio) that KW has been in contact and withthe player himself wanting to move to England this is "the one" Moyes has been talking about. (could be crap, but doubt it).

As for Manny, the one thing he never did when he did leave was slam Everton, slat us or slag us off, so a deal might still be possible if we ever found the truth behind the collaspe

Colin Jones
16 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:38:38

Even if thats true i don’t think it’s too wise to bring in a player who will possibly be at the ACN for a long time

Terry Smith
17 Posted 18/12/2007 at 16:36:52

With Osman out injured for 6 weeks we need to strengthen our midfield with footballers.We have enough grafters in there.If we can add to our midfield with names such as Downing , Fernandes & Vogel i dont see why we cant give the top 4 a go!

Ben Howard
18 Posted 18/12/2007 at 17:27:29

Brett, you say... "Lets face facts No matter what happend behind the scenes WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN HIM"... and then in your next post say... "a deal might still be possible if we ever found the truth behind the collaspe"...

How can we take what you say about Appiah as gospel when you evidently have nothing to back up your facts?

I don’t mind speculation as it’s exciting at this time of year (a bit like opening your pressies!) but why do people feel they have to say stuff with such authority? - it puts me right off

John McLaughlin
19 Posted 18/12/2007 at 22:59:52

Chris Keightley, by dilly-dalling I hope you mean the club were trying to make the transfer LEGAL. Remeber all that trouble with them two Argentine players at the start of last season hmmm ?

Did you even read the statement they released? We could?ve faced points deduction or even worse if they didn't iron out all the details
Dutch Schaffaer, totally agree ? don?t want him back! For that amount of money we could have a far better leader and player in Lucho Gonzalez who we got a bid rejected for in the summer. Apparently Villarreal are sniffing around so we?ll see....

Anthony Newell
20 Posted 19/12/2007 at 00:10:38

Have to agree with Dutch on this one, he shook on a deal, signed kids shirts then pissed off. What made things worse was his ’i was here one minute and there the next’ feeble bollocks of a excuse. Christ you wouldn’t trust the twat to feed your cat if you were on holiday

Nick Coyne
21 Posted 19/12/2007 at 12:15:44

Dan Smith, I salute you!! Top comments.

Lads, Manny is quite clear a very able player with bucket loads of potential, but lets not delude ourselves into thinking he was some sort of magician who transformed the second half of our season. As is human nature, dependent upon your point of view (i.e. positive or negative), we all remember when he sat poor Cesc on his arse, and the thunder bolt he rasped past Edwin. However, I also remember a boy who for long periods of games went missing. He undoubtedly had a positive effect on the team as a whole and brought the best out of Mikel as he had the ability to keep the bastard ball on the deck (which we all know has improved untold amounts in the last 12/15 matches). He was a good player but by no means a great player.

Whilst undecided myself about whether a return would be a good thing or a bad thing, I cannot see Moyes taking the risk.

Does this 3rd party bollocks still apply? I thought Valencia paid in excess of £12m to ensure they obtained full rights for the player. Its about time that wanker Blatter put a stop to all this split-ownership.

Jack Fairclough
22 Posted 22/12/2007 at 23:20:30

This guy is absouloutly amazing, i saw an interview with him on sky sports news just after he signed for Valencia, he admitted he was hoping to join Everton but couldnt due to reasons that were out of his control. forget making him beg, hes quality if you make him beg someone else will take him with arms wide open. we should definatly sign him again or atleast on a season long loan. Get him back Moyes!