One of the things I am chuffed with (and there is so much to be chuffed about the way we are playing) is the team spirit. It's often mentioned by my non-blue mates as a real plus for us. So what was the to-do between Gravesen and Carsley just before the second half kicked off against AZ?
I watched it on Channel 5 and Grav appeared to be slapping Carsley around the chest in what looked like an attempt at keeping him warm. Carlsey however seemed well pissed off by this and mouthed as much at Grav and then pushed him away. I thought I saw a look of real disdain from Cars.
Firstly and quite simply did I see it right?
Secondly, if I did does anyone think Grav may be a disruptive influence around a team that genuinely seems to enjoy being together?
Mike Dishome, Posted 22/12/2007 at 00:53:09
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1 Posted 22/12/2007 at 05:36:33
Your reading too much into it Mike
2 Posted 22/12/2007 at 06:03:34
3 Posted 22/12/2007 at 07:04:52
4 Posted 22/12/2007 at 08:54:36
5 Posted 22/12/2007 at 09:17:45
6 Posted 22/12/2007 at 09:26:37
Good for them, I say.
7 Posted 22/12/2007 at 10:02:59
8 Posted 22/12/2007 at 10:02:53
9 Posted 22/12/2007 at 12:06:42
He was slapping Carsley in a jocular manner and Carsley told him to stop dicking about. he is right. It was the wrong time to be dicking about as the lads still had a job to do. Plenty of time for messing after the final whistle.
10 Posted 22/12/2007 at 12:07:16
Gravesen in my opinion is great for this squad of players as he is a character. I’ve seen the likes Jagielka and Baines saying they love him already and they feel like they’ve known him for years. He is a winner and that helps. I personally think we lack these sort of players. The likes of Cahill, Gravesen, Stubbs and Carsley are valuable assets to the squad as they all have these sort of mentalities.
What did everyone think of Gravesen performance on Thursday? where you impressed or is he a wast of time? I personally think he was excellent on the ball but poor off it. Some of his passing was superb and he hardly gave it away but his legs and lack of tracking back let him down. Hopefully with a bit more match fitness and reserve games he will be useful for us. I think he’s be great in Europe if he we can get him to a reasonable level physically.
11 Posted 22/12/2007 at 12:52:43
As you may tell I’m not Gravesen’s greatest fan (never had been) and I was disappointed when we re-signed him...however I am glad hat he hardly ever plays now...far too much of a loose canon for me.
I do believe that the team spirit appears to be first class and the lads are playing exactly as that...A TEAM !!
For me there is a time for dicking around ( the training ground) and a time to be serious (matches) so leave it at Finch Farm Tommy !!...However I do think that incident in Alkmaar was a very innocuious one.
12 Posted 22/12/2007 at 13:48:14
Grav- hey Lee you got some man boobys der now.
Cars- f off yer frigin bacon farmer!
Grav- go on den yer slaphead gizza feel
Cars- Gerrof will ya you know i’ve got sensitive nipples.
Well it was something like that anyway.
13 Posted 22/12/2007 at 14:46:13
He is off his head and should be shipped back to Celtic his wages should be given to a much better player.
The only good thing about him is he takes a decent corner far better than Arteta.
14 Posted 22/12/2007 at 15:54:18
i’ve done it to my mates and they’ve done it to me you always get a serious "fuck off you knob head". it was just banter between mates, thats all
the ref came over to them and looked like he commented on the short sleeved shirt and i saw cars say "im freezing my fuckin nuts off"
15 Posted 22/12/2007 at 16:31:03
Its just like saying Neville is better than Gravesen because he continually tracks back and works his socks off but thats not the case at all. Give the ball to Gravesen and he makes things happen. That through ball to Vaughan where he just volleyed it into his patch was shear class and there where other things that impressed me also. If we can get him fitter then he will be useful especially in Europe where the aim of the game is to keep the ball.
He’s by no means the answer but people writing him off straight away need to get a grip as they done the exact same thing with Yakubu, Jagielka and Pienaar.
16 Posted 22/12/2007 at 17:33:48
And he turns out to be a young man who doesn’t want to forget where he came from (while asking for time off from the national team to play for us) and keeps up his Christian charity. I havn’t noticed him doing to much of that on the pitch, so good for him all round.
ps - one great thing about having the baldy triplets on the field at the same time is that it confuses the opposition (including the media).
17 Posted 22/12/2007 at 21:57:01
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19 Posted 23/12/2007 at 00:16:30