Michael and co,
I may be out on limb here, but after Arteta's illness keeping him out of the Man Utd game, only to return today, am I the only person to smell a whiff of last year's "gentleman's agreement"? Of course there are often spurious rumours linking him elsewhere, but if our Mikel heads to United after next Tuesday's opening of the window I will be majorly fucked off on a number of levels.
Am I overly cynical and suspicious? Do I need to dig out my tinfoil hat?
Mark Wynne, Posted 26/12/2007 at 23:10:12
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1 Posted 27/12/2007 at 02:47:54
2 Posted 27/12/2007 at 07:48:28
3 Posted 27/12/2007 at 09:25:50
4 Posted 27/12/2007 at 10:30:49
I wish Arteta wouldnt take the corners they are absolutely dreadful. Moyes has moved Jags to the near post because he doesnt clear the first man ever.
5 Posted 27/12/2007 at 10:34:18
I can?t really remember...
6 Posted 27/12/2007 at 10:34:04
Assistant manager or job on the gates?
7 Posted 27/12/2007 at 10:50:29
Posted 27/12/2007 at 10:34:18
well, when was the last time arteta played at old trafford?
I can?t really remember"
Try last season, in the 3-0 defeat at OT.
Taken of EFC?s OS... but then of course, THAT is controlled by an Orwellian Big Brother, who has lots of little Winstons working feverishly to rewrite old reports in Newspeak.
Give me strength...
8 Posted 27/12/2007 at 11:16:01
9 Posted 27/12/2007 at 11:32:49
10 Posted 27/12/2007 at 12:19:05
11 Posted 27/12/2007 at 13:26:40
12 Posted 27/12/2007 at 13:33:02
13 Posted 27/12/2007 at 15:27:18
I admit, Mikel may leave one day but it will, as was said here, be only to return to his homeland.
PS if anyone has any information on the possibility of Fernandes returning I’d like to hear it.
14 Posted 27/12/2007 at 15:36:59
15 Posted 27/12/2007 at 15:51:13
16 Posted 27/12/2007 at 16:14:34
17 Posted 27/12/2007 at 16:12:06
18 Posted 27/12/2007 at 17:06:51
19 Posted 27/12/2007 at 17:17:38
A few years ago Arteta missed a Derby match because he was about to sign for them, Howard misses all matches matches against Man utd and now Arteta is signing for Man Utd, Well its better than the truth that he was just sick.
Maybe Turner isnt really injured he is making sure he doesnt play in Europe for when Chelsea come in for him in January as cover for Cech
20 Posted 27/12/2007 at 18:04:06
A clause in his loan contract was the rumour. Quite usual in loan contracts...
21 Posted 28/12/2007 at 00:41:13
22 Posted 28/12/2007 at 00:43:17
I am prepared to be flattened here but personally I think Spud (Arteta) is worth more to EFC than Rooney ever was.
23 Posted 28/12/2007 at 00:51:59
I’m not trying to put a downer on things because I can’t do it about Moyes or the football, it’s just that when it comes to Man United and us, you know that the weirdest things always seem to happen. The Rooney deal is something that is still to this day shrouded in mystery. I can’t think of anyone anywhere that has been able to put down on paper the actual full deal with United. The Howard deal saw us leaving him out against them despite having secured ownership rights (apparently against the laws of the Premier League - but since the offender was one of the Big Four it was conveniently forgotten) and of course the constant feeling that we are somehow United’s best mates and feeder club.
The vague rumours of a price tag for Arteta remind me very much of the talk that went on before the Rooney transfer. I don’t for a minute think United wouldn’t take him because he’s not an immediate fit. They bought Carrick and Hargreaves with no hope of accommodating them both and I think they would take Arteta in a heartbeat without worrying about where he would play.
I hope I’m wrong, but I’m glad I’m not the only one out there who considered it a possibility, ridiculous or not Art.
24 Posted 28/12/2007 at 01:04:27
I?d advise everyone to watch the interview with Arteta and Cahill on youtube; I think you see a real insight into the mentality of both players. Both are absolute quality and are going nowhere.
25 Posted 28/12/2007 at 01:29:27
Probably another Riquelme style story as we are nearly at the window!
TBH 15 mil is ridiculous they bought him for £10m and cant get a game - think about 7 or 8 mil at most.
26 Posted 28/12/2007 at 06:25:43
27 Posted 28/12/2007 at 08:03:04
Now in your follow-up email you try to justify yourself by alluding to the Rooney deal as being ?shrouded in mystery?, adding ?I can?t think of anyone anywhere that has been able to put down on paper the actual full deal with United?. Then you haven?t been paying much attention. The FULL details of that deal have been posted many, many times, including on this website, but of course, that doesn?t sit easily with your conspiracy, does it?
And then this beauty? ?the constant feeling that we are somehow United?s best mates and feeder club?. Ehrm? other than Rooney, who else has gone from Everton to United in the last 20-30 years? All I can recall is John Gidman and the supposedly retired-through-injury Mark Higgins. THAT makes us United?s feeder club? Does it bollox?
And how desperate are you in your last line ? ?I hope I?m wrong, but I?m glad I?m not the only one out there who considered it a possibility?. ONE other poster in this thread admitted to a similar thought crossing his mind ? and you REJOICE in that, yet tell us you hope you are wrong???
Yeah, Mark ? your two posts are totally, TOTALLY ridiculous.
28 Posted 28/12/2007 at 09:15:06
the thread starter ADMITTED he was being crazy.
Everybody worries about losing their star players, its natural.
29 Posted 28/12/2007 at 10:42:05
Feel free to choose to believe in Mark’s conspiracies, or my denunciaton of them, but please don’t lecture me on how I should post. I am not attacking the man - I am attacking his point of view which I continue to say is ridiculous and unfounded.
30 Posted 28/12/2007 at 17:10:29
I just feel that you were being overly critical on what was quite a lighthearted subject.
You clearly have anger management problems.
By the way disagreeing with someone's views in any way is an "attack" on them, whether justified or not.
So yes, you did in fact attack him by disagreeing with him
It is nice to see someone bought you a Thesaurus for Christmas though
31 Posted 28/12/2007 at 18:51:45
You have now labelled me aggressive, with anger management problems. Fine. I could describe you as presumptious and pompously overbearing, but it does not advance the discussion under debate in the thread.
When you feel like offering a genuine opinion on the thread’s subject, I’ll look forward to engaging with you, if it is of interest.
You have a nice evening now...
32 Posted 30/12/2007 at 08:54:32
Anyway, like other posters I agree we need to secure Pienaar. Given the combined ANOC effect and Arteta’s inevitable three match ban, we need to get some new faces in pronto.
33 Posted 30/12/2007 at 09:00:36
It’s early here.