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Transfer Window (Non)Sense & Sensibility

So its January and everyone wants to know who we're going to buy and who we're (more likely) not going to buy.

The merry-go-round begins here and as usual its going to be heresay abounding with big talk of Manny in Pizza Hut and Ronaldinho hanging out in Abra-Kebab-ra, with the ultimate prize of a 17-year-old from the West Country the most we can hope for (really?!)

So, rather than trawl through our vacant memory banks and hope for some light at the end of an all-too-distant tunnel, I happily stumbled across this piece on Football 365 which makes for interesting reading; it also puts to bed a lot of the arguments about whether the January transfer window is a Godsend... or a bit of a pain in the bum.

Allan Hobbs, London Posted 04/01/2008 at 08:52:43

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Mick Simo
1 Posted 04/01/2008 at 12:15:55

Is Fernandes signing? I was in a taxi in London this morning at 7am and the driver put Talksport Radio on and I just caught the end of Everton trying to negogiate a loan deal for the unsettled Valancia star. I am supposed to be in a seminar but have spent the last half hour going through all the Sports websites, but not a mention,anyone else hear this broadcast? If its true I just hope we don't spend the next month on this one, only for it to fall through.

Tony Graham
2 Posted 04/01/2008 at 13:10:03

Read in The Mirror today that Moyesy is in for a Manny return. I know it's been discussed in the mailbag, but he is quality and if a Pienaar type deal is possible, a player of his class in the middle of the park would push us on surely ? especially if Davey does a Yak on him and gets him firing on all cylinders!!

Iain Atkinson
3 Posted 04/01/2008 at 14:11:49

I?ve just found this article on the internet relating to Fernandes:

http://goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=534989

Looks like he spent the night in the slammer after being arrested for some late night partying, no mention of it being in a McDonald?s though. Apparently, Koeman wants him out and has asked the club to find him a new team but I?m not too sure if this type of story increases or decreases the likelihood of Moyes giving him a second chance.

Dave Turner
4 Posted 04/01/2008 at 14:19:07

Well the OS has decided to pour cold water on Fernandes rumours.

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/boss-on-fernandes-rumours.html

Or will such an article just add more fuel to the fire in these crazy times?

Sean McNally
5 Posted 04/01/2008 at 14:27:42

Here you go lads.... is it true I wonder?????Me thinks it's a goer

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/01/04/everton-line-up-fernandes-89520-20274317/

Graham Eaves
6 Posted 04/01/2008 at 14:39:59

What I don’t understand is why all this talk of just a loan deal if it is true that he’s coming back. We and Moyes obviously know he’s ace from the loan deal last season and is exactly the sort of player we need. I know we haven’t got a pot to piss in but my concern is that we get him, he does brilliantly again and we’re effectively putting him in the shop window for X,Y,Z to approach him or MSI and say, right how much do you want, we want him and effectively get gazzumped again. Once bitten, twice shy and all that...

Dave Lynch
7 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:02:07

Personally think the Jan window is a god send for the richer teams.
They are able to buy their way out of trouble if it comes to it, due to injuries etc. And in the process usually rape the less affluent clubs of their better talent.
The whole system is flawed to my mind, buy what you need in the summer and stick with it or leave the window open all season.

Tom Rowe
8 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:11:01

There’s no point in gossiping about it until it actually happens. We all remember what happened last time. Theres not point in thinking about it unitl hes signed the dotted line. And that goes for any other signing.

That wont stop me reading every rumour thread until the end of the transfer window.. I think Im addcited.

Paul Waring
9 Posted 04/01/2008 at 15:18:55

Manuel Fernandes spent Wednesday night in prison for the alleged stealing of a watch according to papers here in Portugal and Spain. I doubt he will be coming back to Everton after this type of behavior but perhaps the RS can give him a season ticket for the Kop....?

Shaun Brennan
10 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:18:39

Personally for me, all this transfer talk is boring. Time to move on. Haven’t we learned that rumours are always wide of the mark?

Erik Dols
11 Posted 04/01/2008 at 15:39:10

Manny Fernandes spent last night in jail after getting caught in a pub-fight. Apparantely someone accused him of stealing his watch and Manny punched this guy in the face straigth away.

And this while Valencia play their derby against Levante on Sunday. Do we want such a player back? Or is this a tabloid story blown out of proportions?

Dan Mckie
12 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:27:56

Erik, didnt one of Evertons biggest heroes get sent to prison for butting someone on the pitch shortly after he arrived at Goodison? Fernandes got into a bit of a scrap by the sounds of it like most young lads have been at some point!

Simon Smith
13 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:35:45

Moyes? comments were intended to put the rumour to bed. Reading between the lines, however, he only showed that he is really interested in Manny. He could have denounced Manny for last years snub, but he chose the ?bemused? route. Expect movement on this one!

Nigel Tufnel
14 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:38:33

According to spanish newspaper "As", Fernades is back on loan . Let’s see what happens:

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/confirmada-cesion-manuel-fernandes-everton/dasftb/20080104dasdasftb_14/Tes

Dan Mckie
15 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:44:02

I dont understand spanish but I made out, fernandes, everton and confirmo! :) He signed with a magic marker last time tho so ill believe it when hes on the pitch with a ball!

Simon Smith
16 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:55:33

I think it says his agent has confirmed the Everton deal.

James Elworthy
17 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:05:56

Headline says agent confirms transfer granted, cesation means to grant

Simon Smith
18 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:11:55

Confirmed the cession Manuel Fernandes to the Everton. Jorge Mendes, agent of the midfield player of the Valencia Manuel Fernandes, today confirmed the cession to the English Everton of the Portuguese player, who this dawn was stopped after seeing itself surrounded in an incident in the premises of leisure of the Valencian capital.

(From one of those free online translators)

Cession actually means to give up one?s rights to something (property, for example).

Mike Nutt
19 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:13:42

It says this i think?

Confirmed the cession Manuel Fernandes to the Everton Jorge Mendes, agent of the midfield player of the Valencia Manuel Fernandes, today confirmed the cession to the English Everton of the Portuguese player, who this dawn was stopped after seeing itself surrounded in an incident in the premises of leisure of the Valencian capital. The Portuguese representative left the offices of the club of Mestalla around the 16,20 hours after maintaining a meeting with Miguel Angel Ruiz, sport director of the Valencia, and, although he announced the exit of the Portuguese, sent to the journalists to the official version of the Valencia. Manuel Fernandes, that arrived this season at the Valencia coming from the Benfica, already played of January June of the season last in the Everton in yielded quality of and after a period of three months to loan in the Portsmouth. The international Portuguese, who did not enter the plans of the technician of the Valencia, Ronald Koeman, remained outside the call like first measurement of the Dutch trainer when knowing today that he had spent the night in the police station. The player was itself involved this dawn in an argument next to his teammate and compatriot Miguel Brito and, although this one last one was not prisoner, yes was it its brother, who spent the night in the jail with Fernandes. Both have been set free minutes before the 14,00 hours and this late they will be put under in a fast opinion in the court of Instruction I number 9 of Valencia

Rob Jones
20 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:04:02

I'm pretty sure it says that Manny's agent has confirmed Manny's interest in rejoining us...

Chris Masey
21 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:22:14

Moyes has rubbished the rumours on the website. Oh well!

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/boss-on-fernandes-rumours.html

Chris Masey
22 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:23:48

When is Xabi Alonso signing anyway? I thought that was a dead cert, and I also thought I wasn’t naive.

David Barks
23 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:24:47

Moyes has done nothing of the sort. He says the same thing before every transfer that takes place. If he wanted to rubbish the report he would have said Fernandes will not be coming back to Everton. I have no desire to bring him in and am not going to do so. But he jsut said he knew nothing of the rumors. This one seems to be gathering pace and could well come off. It would be great if it does, we could use him.

Chad Schofield
24 Posted 04/01/2008 at 18:40:16

Nice article... "It?s not that Saha is rubbish, he just happens to be made of balsa wood"!

Personally I wouldn't like to see the return of Manny, not because of his nightclub shenanigans but because of the obvious snub in the summer.

Far more interested in Joe Ledley if there?s any truth in the rumours, but not really expecting anything in this window.

Stig Meacham
25 Posted 04/01/2008 at 18:56:10

Can anyone here read Italian? I tried to translate this on babel fish, but it made a hash of the whole thing. It certainly appears as though someone from Manuel’s group is talking about our Club at the very least? "Ufficiale"?

Getting interesting to say the least

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=86237

Neil Scott
26 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:07:41

I found this:

Jorge Mendes, has now commented that Fernandes is to leave the club and play for Everton.
http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_14446.shtml

Mike ONeill
27 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:04:02

The deal has been reported in El Mundo Deportivo (the daily Barcelona sports paper) and on teletext on Spanish TV (which is where I first saw, back in August and to my horror, that Manny was leaving us for Valencia)... by the way, ’cesión’ means ’loan’

David Barks
28 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:27:21

The story is also here:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL0465603020080104
reuters is a pretty reputable source, but a cause for caution is that nobody has any quotes from his agent, it’s the same thing saying he told reporters his, but no solid quotes provided. Still, there seems to be something to this.

David Barks
29 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:31:16

Scratch that, Setanta sports do have a quote from his agent.
After David Moyes earlier dismissed a return for Fernandes the 21-year-old?s agent, Jorge Mendes, has told setantasports.com that his client is now preparing to return to the North West of England subject to the successful completion of negotiations.

"The agreement for the loan is complete but we wait for official confirmation from Valencia,? Mendes revealed.

Mendes told setantasports.com that he had met with Los Che sporting director Miguel Angel Ruiz to thrash out a deal which will see Fernandes join The Toffees until the end of the season.

Neil Scott
30 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:32:40

Fantastic news if this comes off.... I for one will be very happy to see Manny back in a blue shirt. Just the kind of player we need to kick on the 2nd half of this amazing season! IMWT

Steve Jones
31 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:32:46

Setanta also say he is undergoing a medical, full article:

"Manuel Fernandes? agent has revealed to setantasports.com that the Valencia midfielder is undergoing a medical with a view to completing a move to Everton.

The Portuguese winger spent a spell on loan at Goodison Park last season and irked Toffees officials by opting to move to the Mestalla after verbally agreeing to join the Merseyside club.

After David Moyes earlier dismissed a return for Fernandes the 21-year-old?s agent, Jorge Mendes, has told setantasports.com that his client is now preparing to return to the North West of England subject to the successful completion of negotiations.

"The agreement for the loan is complete but we wait for official confirmation from Valencia,? Mendes revealed.

Mendes told setantasports.com that he had met with Los Che sporting director Miguel Angel Ruiz to thrash out a deal which will see Fernandes join The Toffees until the end of the season.

Having paid a fee of around ?18 million (£13.5m) for Fernandes only last summer, Valencia coach Ronald Koeman is believed to have sanctioned a move after failing to find a place in his plans for the player.

John Murphy
32 Posted 04/01/2008 at 16:26:56

Manuel Fernandes ? The Portugese Joey Barton? http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_3022559,00.html

Michael McCrory
33 Posted 04/01/2008 at 17:04:47

According to AS.com and Goal.com, Fernandes has been loaned to Everton for the rest of the season. This is according to his agent who had talks with Valencia this afternoon. These articles are both in newsnow.com, although in Spanish.

Paul Lowrie
34 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:21:03

Fernandes Loan move confirmed here (in Spanish). No details about the terms though. Kouman sounded well pissed off with him on the news earlier today though, and aparently wants him out for good.

Scott McKinney
35 Posted 04/01/2008 at 19:52:28

More firewood from Sentanta ....

http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/01/04/Premier-League-Fernandes-agent-on-Everton-move/?facets/sport-space/football/great-britain-locale/

Stig Meacham
36 Posted 04/01/2008 at 20:14:30

If he is indeed undergoing a medical (who knows?), and completes it by midnight, when would that make him available for selection?

Lue Glover
37 Posted 04/01/2008 at 20:36:24

Stig, the italian report just says that Fernandes’ agent has revealed that he has been signed by Everton. Also some comments regarding the incident in a pizza place.
Nothing more than we already have on other websites.

Allan Hobbs
38 Posted 04/01/2008 at 20:41:46

What you read on a newspaper or sports website is not to be trusted - however, Reuters clearly is to be trusted so I would believe nothing bar this article for now. Doesn’t tell you much, but I’d say this is the truth as far as is possible at this stage.

Note: This only hit Reuters an hour ago.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL0465603020080104

David Barks
39 Posted 04/01/2008 at 20:58:53

That’s the story that really got me too Allan. Reuters don’t usually print gossip, so if it’s there I am much more confident than anywhere else. But still, I would love to see a picture of a contract being signed ASAP!!! No handshakes this time ay Moyes.

Tim Bowley
40 Posted 04/01/2008 at 20:49:27

The Spanish equivalent of BBC 1 has just announced that Fernandes has left Valencia and is on his way to Everton

Lue Glover
41 Posted 04/01/2008 at 21:39:03

please be true, please be true. I’m not going to be able to cope with another ’will he won’t he saga’. My nerves will not cope.