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What's happening against Oldham?
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I am following the Oldham game on the net and we have less shots on goal... more fouls... less possession and to add insult to injury, Oldham score a cracker just before half time. I am really worried that this maybe a very tough second half for us.
I can't even start to think of us losing this game, hope we can pull our socks up for the 2nd half and get a win, somehow, don't care how.
Santosh Benjamin, Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:21:46
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Paul Jones
2 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:54:18
2 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:54:18
We seem to have been complacent. Ronnie Goodlass is slagging McFadden!!
We need to score, don't fancy a replay at their place.
We need to score, don't fancy a replay at their place.
Stuart Mitchell
3 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:52:55
3 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:52:55
Yakubu and Anichebe on for Vaughen and Gravesen on 62 mins
Santosh Benjamin
4 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:58:29
4 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:58:29
not looking good....we need a goal...where is it going to come from????
Dan Wragg
5 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:59:56
5 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:59:56
A great chance for the Yak just then. We cannot lose this, Oldham are League One FFS - COYB!
Anyone reckon we need Fernandes?!?
Baines off
Lescott on
WHY?!
Anyone reckon we need Fernandes?!?
Baines off
Lescott on
WHY?!
Stuart Mitchell
6 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:02:39
6 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:02:39
Should have got Stubbs off if he is gonna bring Lescott on.
Why not bring Anderson Silva on instead!
Why not bring Anderson Silva on instead!
Paul Jones
7 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:05:17
7 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:05:17
We can't carve anything out. The clock is ticking, Oldham seem to be coping quite comfortably. We havent tested their keeper.
Can't be arsed with being scalped. 9 mins left.
Can't be arsed with being scalped. 9 mins left.
Santosh Benjamin
8 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:01:23
8 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:01:23
Less than 10 mins to go... don't think there is a way out for us this time.... sad... hoping I'm wrong though.
Alex Taylor
9 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:10:52
9 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:10:52
This is fucking shite. We deserve nothing from this. Hope they pull their fingers out for Tuesday otherwise it?ll be a walkover for Chelsea.
Santosh Benjamin
10 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:11:07
10 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:11:07
less than 5 mins now...some help please,God.....help us....
Paul Jones
11 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:14:20
11 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:14:20
Not good enough, we have had a good season so far, but this shouldn't be happening, we should be beating these chumps with ease.
David Barks
12 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:13:10
12 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:13:10
This just isn’t good enough. Getting challenged by a lower league side in the cup is one thing, but that usually happens when the lower league side is at home. But losing at home to a League One side is just not good enough. Very upset by this game and the way Everton have played. They have created nothing all game. I hope Moyes can see that midfield reinforcements are needed immediately.
Alex Taylor
13 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:14:40
13 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:14:40
Seems like Mcfadden has had a stinker.
Santosh Benjamin
14 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:14:40
14 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:14:40
Pathetic if we lose...no excuses..had a good enough squad to beat em...hang your heads in shame,lads!
David Barks
15 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:17:48
15 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:17:48
How do you go to Boro and get a 2-0 result then get beaten by a League One side at home. The players should be ashamed of themselves for this performance.
Santosh Benjamin
16 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:17:42
16 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:17:42
What a disgrace!
Stuart Mitchell
17 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:20:48
17 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:20:48
Thats what you get when you start Stubbs, Hibbert, Mcfadden and Gravesen!!!
Lee Heath
18 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:21:17
18 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:21:17
McFadden is shite
Lee Smith
19 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:24:49
19 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:24:49
Well that was shit
Shaun Cook
20 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:21:19
20 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:21:19
FFS!! Why oh why did we rest so many key players? Poxy Oldham... we should have destroyed them. Moysie has got this one terribly wrong I'm afraid. May I also say that James McFadden should be on the boat to Scotland as soon as. We simply can't trust him like we can the others and he doesn't cut the mustard. I find him one of the most fustrating players ever to wear a blue shirt. Pissed off!
Stuart Mitchell
21 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:25:37
21 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:25:37
Got to ship McFadden Out now!! and he can take Hibbert with him!
Would be happy to have Gosling as back up to Neville.
We need Cahill and Fernandes in for the Semi Final.
Would be happy to have Gosling as back up to Neville.
We need Cahill and Fernandes in for the Semi Final.
Dan Wragg
22 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:25:11
22 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:25:11
Who cares if we had a League Cup Semi final, we needed to be in the FA cup, realisitically, we will struggle against Chelski, so we just needed to try and progress in all competitions. Moyes should have played his best team, or, at least only rested a couple of players ? but no.
He rests Cahill, Yobo, Yak, Lescott etc.
Oh Well, could be a great tactic by Moyes if we can beat Chelsea, but it looks as if our results are yo-yo?ing again!
He rests Cahill, Yobo, Yak, Lescott etc.
Oh Well, could be a great tactic by Moyes if we can beat Chelsea, but it looks as if our results are yo-yo?ing again!
Santosh Benjamin
23 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:26:19
23 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:26:19
Not mincing any words...if you cant beat a League 1 side...then what the hell are we going to do against Chelsea in the LEague cup....Brann in the UEFA cup.....etc.
Cant believe they couldnt even get shots on target...bloody shambles...
Cant believe they couldnt even get shots on target...bloody shambles...
Daniel Lim
24 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:27:55
24 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:27:55
To make this worse, I read somewhere that Oldham have some injury crisis at the moment.
Art Greeth
25 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:24:04
25 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:24:04
Yes... we should beat teams like Oldham.
Yes... the team sent out today was enough to beat them.
Yes... it is a disappointment and not in keeping with the rest of our season.
But give some credit to Oldham. Listening on the audio broadcast, they defended well, countered well and did so playing decent football.
I’m less than happy with the loss, but let’s show SOME dignity in defeat and say "well played Oldham". It sounds as if they thoroughly deserved it.
Yes... the team sent out today was enough to beat them.
Yes... it is a disappointment and not in keeping with the rest of our season.
But give some credit to Oldham. Listening on the audio broadcast, they defended well, countered well and did so playing decent football.
I’m less than happy with the loss, but let’s show SOME dignity in defeat and say "well played Oldham". It sounds as if they thoroughly deserved it.
Mike Kennedy
26 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:28:49
26 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:28:49
Shit fucking shit...it wasn?t even Oldham?s first team. Can anyone tell me when the last time we had a decent run in the FA Cup?
Daniel Lim
27 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:34:25
27 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:34:25
Mike, next year, Mike.
Brian Waring
28 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:32:07
28 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:32:07
You also have to take into consideration,that Oldham were missing 4 of their key players and still done a job on us.
Conor Feeney
29 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:29:08
29 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:29:08
Here we go again. A sickening result alright, but dispense with the overreaction please.
That’s what bugs me about this site, glass always half empty.
That’s what bugs me about this site, glass always half empty.
Santosh Benjamin
30 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:34:43
30 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:34:43
You’re right,Art..well played Oldham !
We tend to forget that coz we think the world of our players.
Nothing less than a win against Chelksi in the CC semi..and Moyes better bring in some midfield cover for Arteta and Cahill otherwise things may start to snowball out of control!
We tend to forget that coz we think the world of our players.
Nothing less than a win against Chelksi in the CC semi..and Moyes better bring in some midfield cover for Arteta and Cahill otherwise things may start to snowball out of control!
Yankee Blue
31 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:30:59
31 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:30:59
I must say that this is really the first game that Moyes screwed up tactically. Why not play our best players? Yobo and Yak will be leaving soon and there would have been other opportunities to play the likes of Vaughn, Hibbo, etc in their absence. There is no excuse and the only thing that can make this loss easier if if we win the Carling Cup. Not exactly a prestigious trophy, but after today’s performance I’ll take whatever we can get.
Kevin Tonkley
32 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:36:02
32 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:36:02
I think that result answers all our questions!!! Just when we thought the club had turned the corner!
Shocking defeat......
Shocking defeat......
Paul Hardcastle
33 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:39:21
33 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:39:21
And what bugs me about people like you, Connor, is that you label a perfectly justifiable reaction to an attrociuos perfromance and a pathetic result as an over-reaction. Please just Fuck Off. Everton should be winning games like that hands down. Unfortunately, Moyes seems to make serious misjudgements at crucial times in the season and these have continued to dog his 5½ years with us. It’s the whole yo-yo thing again ? just when we are supposed to be demonstrating some improved consistency. We as fans have every right to complain, and this excellent website is the place to do it.
Dutch Schaffaer
34 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:42:09
34 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:42:09
£11 million for Yakubu and he cant even score against Oldham?
Sorry just hurting, deeply disappointing result. A team selection that asks the question if Moyes is even interested in the FA Cup?
With the extended Uefa and League Cup campaigns, maybe Moyes wasn?t so bothered about the FA Cup?
Sorry just hurting, deeply disappointing result. A team selection that asks the question if Moyes is even interested in the FA Cup?
With the extended Uefa and League Cup campaigns, maybe Moyes wasn?t so bothered about the FA Cup?
Brian Waring
35 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:40:04
35 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:40:04
Conor, why is it an over-reaction? We have just gone out of the FA Cup, to a mid-table League One team who were missing four of their key players and, to round it off, on our own patch as well.
Dave Trudgeon
36 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:43:09
36 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:43:09
I'm FUMING but its one result
If we beat Chelsea or get a draw then I?ll be happy being a blue... haha!
If we beat Chelsea or get a draw then I?ll be happy being a blue... haha!
Neil Styles
37 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:41:08
37 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:41:08
Everyone calm down! Our season is already overflowing with an excess of games, do we really need yet another cup to compete in? I agree wholeheartedly with DM, rest key players today and bring out the big guns on tuesday and next weekend. Sorry if I'm upsetting some of the more traditionalist Blues out there but I think we need a run in the FA Cup right now like Brtiney Spears needs a gift voucher at Burger King!
Eric Hardman
38 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:35:08
38 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:35:08
Once again David Moyes’ tactical awareness comes to the rescue...NOT!
Playing extra strikers without someone to give them the ball will never work - the man hasn’t a clue. We still haven’t beaten anybody half decent all season and now we can’t even score against rubbish. He got away with it against Metallist and Luton but basically it’s clear he doesn’t know how to win in a knockout competition.
Playing extra strikers without someone to give them the ball will never work - the man hasn’t a clue. We still haven’t beaten anybody half decent all season and now we can’t even score against rubbish. He got away with it against Metallist and Luton but basically it’s clear he doesn’t know how to win in a knockout competition.
Art Greeth
39 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:39:46
39 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:39:46
Ahhh... I see a number of posters displaying the wonderous gift of hindsight once again.
It was a nailed on certainty that Moyes would send out pretty much the eleven he started with today. And perfectly legitimate it was too, given the opposition and the upcoming fixture list.
Unfortunately, the players did not perform to the standard that they are more than capable of - and from what I heard on the audio broadcast, Oldham thoroughly deserved the win.
The defeat is hard to take, but rather than berate Moyes for his selection, I am disappointed that possibly some players thought they would be on easy street today and just had to turn up to win. I didn’t expect that sort of attitude from us, given the way the club is set up these days.
See the defeat as another lesson in the football education of some of our players...
It was a nailed on certainty that Moyes would send out pretty much the eleven he started with today. And perfectly legitimate it was too, given the opposition and the upcoming fixture list.
Unfortunately, the players did not perform to the standard that they are more than capable of - and from what I heard on the audio broadcast, Oldham thoroughly deserved the win.
The defeat is hard to take, but rather than berate Moyes for his selection, I am disappointed that possibly some players thought they would be on easy street today and just had to turn up to win. I didn’t expect that sort of attitude from us, given the way the club is set up these days.
See the defeat as another lesson in the football education of some of our players...
Dutch Schaffaer
40 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:46:29
40 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:46:29
This is a terrible result. No excuses. Absolutely humiliating.
Charlie Skinley
41 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:47:14
41 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:47:14
Eric, clearly you have been asleep. We are in the semi final of the Carling Cup and through to the Uefa Cup and in the top 6 in the league (despite not being the top 6 big spenders). Despite resting some players that was still a strong side, so get a bloody grip, it hasn?t taken you idiotic anti-Moyes brigade long as it - your pathetic.
Mike Oates
42 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:40:10
42 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:40:10
If there’s one thing I hope Moyes’s learns from this is that clearly Gravesen , Mc Fadden , Wessels arent good enough as squad players to cover for a team who believe they can compete at the Top level of the Premiership.
We have only about 16 players who you can count on :-
Howard,Hibbert, Neville,Yobo,Lescott,Stubbs,Jags,Baines, Valente,Pinnear,Arteta, Osman,Cahill,Carsley,Johnson,Yakubu.
Still learning - Vaughan, Anichebe.
To loose 4 or 5 due to injuries, suspensions,ANC etc and you effectively cannot compete at the Top level , loose 9 like we did today (by choice for some) and you cant be trusted to compete against teams who will fight for everything.
Anyway main point after rabbitting - get rid of McFadden and Gravesen to Celtic, Wessels back to Germay and get another two midfield players in asap.
We have only about 16 players who you can count on :-
Howard,Hibbert, Neville,Yobo,Lescott,Stubbs,Jags,Baines, Valente,Pinnear,Arteta, Osman,Cahill,Carsley,Johnson,Yakubu.
Still learning - Vaughan, Anichebe.
To loose 4 or 5 due to injuries, suspensions,ANC etc and you effectively cannot compete at the Top level , loose 9 like we did today (by choice for some) and you cant be trusted to compete against teams who will fight for everything.
Anyway main point after rabbitting - get rid of McFadden and Gravesen to Celtic, Wessels back to Germay and get another two midfield players in asap.
Kevin Tonks
43 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:40
43 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:40
Come on Moyes... you said before the match no more Shrewsbury shockers and the you put out players like Hibbert and McFadden........
Dan Wragg
44 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:28
44 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:28
I think we will be alright. We just have to give 100% against Chelsea, and that will get the fans back on side.
I think Everton will like the weekend off when it comes to the 4th, 5th, and 6th round. Maybe the players need it.
We failed miserably today, but, we need to move on and support the Blues on Tuesday. This was Moyes? first tactical mistake since Tottenham at home at last season. Let?s get behind the team, and Moyes, and we will be off to Wembley in 1 months time. COYB!
I think Everton will like the weekend off when it comes to the 4th, 5th, and 6th round. Maybe the players need it.
We failed miserably today, but, we need to move on and support the Blues on Tuesday. This was Moyes? first tactical mistake since Tottenham at home at last season. Let?s get behind the team, and Moyes, and we will be off to Wembley in 1 months time. COYB!
Steve Lyth
45 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:33
45 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:33
Poor team selection, poor judgement, sickening result.
Ian Tunny
46 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:08
46 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:08
You people seem to think we should beat every team with ease and it is this exact attitude of disrespect by our players towards Olham that has cost us the game. Oldham have been on a good run and are not a bad side. Every dog has his day and any body can beat anybody on a given day and today was Oldham's day so give them some credit and lets hope they've taught us another valuble lesson for the future. Remember ?you cant win?em all?
Martyn Whitham
47 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:11
47 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:50:11
Mixed emotions for me to be honest. I’m annoyed by the manner in which we’ve been dumped out, especially since we’ll now have to cope with all the usual tedious media coverage gushing over any cup upsets.
Bigger picture however is that frankly we needed a strong FA Cup run as much as Tommy G needs a hairdryer. We don’t have the resources to cope with competing on four different fronts. In an ideal world, we could have gone out to another Prem team away from home, but alas we haven’t and now the focus must be on Tuesday night.
I know the old ’blessing in disguise’ is an overused cliche for these occasions, but is it really worth derailing our UEFA Cup and Carling Cup runs (not to mention league) for the sake of turning out for the FA Cup as well? Really?
Bigger picture however is that frankly we needed a strong FA Cup run as much as Tommy G needs a hairdryer. We don’t have the resources to cope with competing on four different fronts. In an ideal world, we could have gone out to another Prem team away from home, but alas we haven’t and now the focus must be on Tuesday night.
I know the old ’blessing in disguise’ is an overused cliche for these occasions, but is it really worth derailing our UEFA Cup and Carling Cup runs (not to mention league) for the sake of turning out for the FA Cup as well? Really?
John Martin
48 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:03:28
48 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:03:28
I am gutted to lose to a team from a lower league. The side we sent out should have been good enough to win comfortably I have no arguement with the selection just the performance.
However, one bad result will not sour what otherwise has been a decent season.
However, one bad result will not sour what otherwise has been a decent season.
Dan Ashworth
49 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:01:53
49 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:01:53
Everyone - Chill Out!
Eric Hardman
50 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:51:48
50 Posted 05/01/2008 at 17:51:48
Charlie Skinley.
The only round of the UEFA that was a knockout round (Metallist) was an embarrassment for exactly the reason that Moyes is fairly clueless when it comes to tactics. We were very close to going out against Luton in the Carling Cup and so far this season haven?t beaten any team in the top half of the Premier League at the time we played them. Unfortunately scoring a few goals against Sunderland seems to have turned everybody?s heads. Three months ago nobody on this site had a good word to say about Moyes. Now apparently, if you still think he has something to prove, you?re ?idiotic?. I prefer to wait unless we have won something before going overboard.
The only round of the UEFA that was a knockout round (Metallist) was an embarrassment for exactly the reason that Moyes is fairly clueless when it comes to tactics. We were very close to going out against Luton in the Carling Cup and so far this season haven?t beaten any team in the top half of the Premier League at the time we played them. Unfortunately scoring a few goals against Sunderland seems to have turned everybody?s heads. Three months ago nobody on this site had a good word to say about Moyes. Now apparently, if you still think he has something to prove, you?re ?idiotic?. I prefer to wait unless we have won something before going overboard.
Martin Cutler
51 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:00:42
51 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:00:42
FFS...everybody calm down!
It’s a terrible, terrible result for us and maybe Moyes did screw up in his team selection........but everything upto now (at least since this run started) has been close to Moyes is God’s right hand man...best squad ever, goals galore, progressing in two cup competitions etc., etc.....
we lost today simply because this is the FA Cup and shit like this happens...it is not the end of the world.....it doesn’t all of a sudden make us a shit team, it’s just one bad result against a team that gave 110%...they had nothing to lose, they have an excellent away record, they are in form (away at least) and even if they had injuries, well, so did we.....it’s basically a level playing field and spirit and luck got them through....we all know who the better team is...no question.
The silver lining of this result is that we don’t have even more games to play and we can concentrate on The League Cup and The UEFA Cup (and The Top SIx in the Prem).....plus based on this result we "should" have more impetus going into the Chelsea game.....I’m sure the lads will want to do an Oldham over Chelsea!
I would add that I’m as pissed as anybody over this result (I listened to it on the radio) but we move on. We have to. And we will.
COYB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s a terrible, terrible result for us and maybe Moyes did screw up in his team selection........but everything upto now (at least since this run started) has been close to Moyes is God’s right hand man...best squad ever, goals galore, progressing in two cup competitions etc., etc.....
we lost today simply because this is the FA Cup and shit like this happens...it is not the end of the world.....it doesn’t all of a sudden make us a shit team, it’s just one bad result against a team that gave 110%...they had nothing to lose, they have an excellent away record, they are in form (away at least) and even if they had injuries, well, so did we.....it’s basically a level playing field and spirit and luck got them through....we all know who the better team is...no question.
The silver lining of this result is that we don’t have even more games to play and we can concentrate on The League Cup and The UEFA Cup (and The Top SIx in the Prem).....plus based on this result we "should" have more impetus going into the Chelsea game.....I’m sure the lads will want to do an Oldham over Chelsea!
I would add that I’m as pissed as anybody over this result (I listened to it on the radio) but we move on. We have to. And we will.
COYB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul Hardcastle
52 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:07:49
52 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:07:49
No, you can’t win ’em, all, Ian. But there’s no harm in trying. This idea that we can’t compete on four fronts is absolute bollocks and if that is really Moyes’s thinking then I really will start hating him again.
We sacrificed this game and it’s simply not good enough to blame the players or to credit Oldham for a plucky performance. It’s down to Moyes to make sure we win games like this (please read his pre-match comments re Shrewsbury) and if he didn’t really care too much then that message definitely got down to the players, and I for one think that is an utter disgrace.
We sacrificed this game and it’s simply not good enough to blame the players or to credit Oldham for a plucky performance. It’s down to Moyes to make sure we win games like this (please read his pre-match comments re Shrewsbury) and if he didn’t really care too much then that message definitely got down to the players, and I for one think that is an utter disgrace.
Jay Harris
53 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:05:47
53 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:05:47
Nobody seems to have mentioned 2 key points.
1. The players will be even more demoralised than us by this result.
2. Knowing the situation with Osman and Arteta and ANC looming why the fuck didnt we have sombody other tha a 16-yr-old for the fiuture lined up as soon as the transfer window opened?
1. The players will be even more demoralised than us by this result.
2. Knowing the situation with Osman and Arteta and ANC looming why the fuck didnt we have sombody other tha a 16-yr-old for the fiuture lined up as soon as the transfer window opened?
Stig Meacham
54 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:10:05
54 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:10:05
Well, we’re the laughingstocks of the week. Can’t say it hasn’t happened before though, hey? Here’s hoping it’s a wake-up call for Tues?
Lee and Lee up there, you wrote the words right off my fingertips!
Lee and Lee up there, you wrote the words right off my fingertips!
Paul Olsen
55 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:28:00
55 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:28:00
Agreed with John Martin, the team sent to do the job today should have been more than sufficient to win comfortably.
They however failed miserably, due to a wrong attitude to this game.
Hibbert, Vaughan, McFadden and Gravesen certainly did themselves no favours regarding a place in any starting lineup again.
They however failed miserably, due to a wrong attitude to this game.
Hibbert, Vaughan, McFadden and Gravesen certainly did themselves no favours regarding a place in any starting lineup again.
Terry McLoughlin
56 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:27:04
56 Posted 05/01/2008 at 18:27:04
I guess now that we have found out that since we have got the strongest side we have seen in years that it proves a point the maybe some of the so-called players that we call reserve players and the fact that they are on maybe 20 to 30 grand a week just aren't good enough and maybe we aren't as strong as we think we are?
Don?t get me wrong but Arsenal put their reserves out against us and many other teams (ie, Liverpool) in the Carling Cup they spanked our arses. We?ve just got to admit that some players aren't good enough to play for Oldham never mind Everton. I can?t argue the fact that Moyes has done well this year but I can argue the fact that team selection is shit.
Also when he decides that neville is a midfielder (my arse... and club captain?) ? shite! Plus bringing subs on in the 90th minute? What's that shit about? The man's a muppet but at least Preston are doing well since Irvine left... lol!
And all this shit about Everton doing well since Cahill come back is all my arse... we started to win when he fucked Neville out of midfield and brought Carsley back into the team. Cahill is a great goalscorer but can?t tackle or pass a ball for shit. Playing 5 men in midfield and 1 striker at home is a fucking joke.
Trevor Grant
57 Posted 05/01/2008 at 19:37:15
57 Posted 05/01/2008 at 19:37:15
This is no knee-jerk reaction but Moyes has not got a clue Bill wont' sack him so we can only hope he will do the decent thing and fuck off. How does a keeper need a rest?
Dave Jeanrenaud
58 Posted 05/01/2008 at 20:11:20
58 Posted 05/01/2008 at 20:11:20
Trevor
"Moyes has not got a clue..."
Are you having a laugh? The man has transformed this club over the last 5 and a half years. I trust you are enjoying our European adventure this season? Make no mistake you would not be enjoying it if it were not for the managerial skills of David Moyes.
If David Moyes did ever fuck off then we would be fucked..
"Moyes has not got a clue..."
Are you having a laugh? The man has transformed this club over the last 5 and a half years. I trust you are enjoying our European adventure this season? Make no mistake you would not be enjoying it if it were not for the managerial skills of David Moyes.
If David Moyes did ever fuck off then we would be fucked..
John Haldane
59 Posted 05/01/2008 at 20:09:10
59 Posted 05/01/2008 at 20:09:10
This result is a blessing in disguise.
African Cup of Nations, Injuries, suspensions etc mean our squad is going to be stretched as far as it can be over the next few months.
The last thing we need is a pointless replay or a cup run that drains the squad so much we haven’t got a chance of winning anything and drop in the league.
COYB!!!
African Cup of Nations, Injuries, suspensions etc mean our squad is going to be stretched as far as it can be over the next few months.
The last thing we need is a pointless replay or a cup run that drains the squad so much we haven’t got a chance of winning anything and drop in the league.
COYB!!!
Conor Feeney
60 Posted 05/01/2008 at 20:17:47
60 Posted 05/01/2008 at 20:17:47
I’m glad to see a bit of balance has arrived with most of the posters here acknowleging the bigger pocture here. And Paul Hardcastle, you can tell me to f off if you want to, no skin off my nose, but when you say ’ I really will start hating him (Moyes) again’ you are showing where you are coming from.
Why would you hate the man. One thing about him, he’s not a flash mercenary, he is certainly in my book giving it his absolute best, so hatred is a bit much.
He picked a mainly second string side in view of the big match coming up on Tuesday, you can’t blame him for that. He’s missing Cahill, Arteta and Osman amongst others, you can’t blame him for that.
Oldham caught us cold on half time, but if early chances from Vaughan and McFadden had been converted, we’d have strolled though, no probs.
We got caught, we’re out, credit to Oldham, it’s their day.
Moyes got some things wrong today and we are all sick as parrots but we’ll get over it. He’s human, and you can be sure he’ll learn from this as he has done before. If this was the only thing we were playing for, it’d be a whole lot worse.
If I was Moyes reading some of this reaction, I’d wonder why I bother.
Get behind the lads on Tuesday, COYB.
Why would you hate the man. One thing about him, he’s not a flash mercenary, he is certainly in my book giving it his absolute best, so hatred is a bit much.
He picked a mainly second string side in view of the big match coming up on Tuesday, you can’t blame him for that. He’s missing Cahill, Arteta and Osman amongst others, you can’t blame him for that.
Oldham caught us cold on half time, but if early chances from Vaughan and McFadden had been converted, we’d have strolled though, no probs.
We got caught, we’re out, credit to Oldham, it’s their day.
Moyes got some things wrong today and we are all sick as parrots but we’ll get over it. He’s human, and you can be sure he’ll learn from this as he has done before. If this was the only thing we were playing for, it’d be a whole lot worse.
If I was Moyes reading some of this reaction, I’d wonder why I bother.
Get behind the lads on Tuesday, COYB.
Lee Aitch
61 Posted 05/01/2008 at 21:34:19
61 Posted 05/01/2008 at 21:34:19
Well said Dave J
Terry and Trev, what are you on about?
Moyes to fuck off? And who do you think we would get? A Newcastle cast off? Some Spanish mercenary? Howard K for another relegation scrap? Wake up! The fact that Arsenal and United have had success and managerial stability is no coincidence. The fact that teams like Newcastle, Spurs, Villa (and to a large extent Red Shite) have hugely underachieved and have managerial instability along with boardroom handbags is no coincidence.
Be proud that we have stuck with our manager. Be proud that we have a core of 5 or 6 English players. Can many Prem teams boast that?
Put the Oldham fuck up aside. It’s a good time to be an Evertonian.
Terry and Trev, what are you on about?
Moyes to fuck off? And who do you think we would get? A Newcastle cast off? Some Spanish mercenary? Howard K for another relegation scrap? Wake up! The fact that Arsenal and United have had success and managerial stability is no coincidence. The fact that teams like Newcastle, Spurs, Villa (and to a large extent Red Shite) have hugely underachieved and have managerial instability along with boardroom handbags is no coincidence.
Be proud that we have stuck with our manager. Be proud that we have a core of 5 or 6 English players. Can many Prem teams boast that?
Put the Oldham fuck up aside. It’s a good time to be an Evertonian.
David Barks
62 Posted 05/01/2008 at 22:30:09
62 Posted 05/01/2008 at 22:30:09
Extremely disappointed but we still have plenty to play for.
Ian Tunny
63 Posted 05/01/2008 at 23:06:47
63 Posted 05/01/2008 at 23:06:47
All this slagging of McFadden, from what i saw on MotD he put at least 3 chances on a plate but no one was getting in the box to finish them, Cahill would have got a hat trick. An Yakubu looks to have missed the 2 best chances, think McFadden set both of them up as well.
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1 Posted 05/01/2008 at 16:46:58
The FA Cup is a great competition!
No Howard, Neville, Cahill, Yakubu, Lescott
I understand us resting players with the Chelsea game coming up, but surely Stubbs is not ready to come back for a start and I am never happy to see Hibbert playing!