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How arrogant are Chelsea?
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Wow is all I can say. I have just read that piece of 'journalism' on their official site regarding the fact that Everton would benefit from having an option of recinding our right to play out the second leg of the cup semi due to our innate inferiority and snow ball in hells chance of progression.
Well, I'm sorry, but I sincerely hope that the majority of Chelsea fans don't think like that as the reality is that the beauty of cup competitions of this nature means anything can happen. I for one will be at Goodison on the 23rd, baying for the Blues to knock Chelsea out. Make no mistake, we need a Herculean effort to do it, but it would be awesome to be in a position to ram that author's words down his throat. COYB!
Andy Morden, Posted 09/01/2008 at 19:52:05
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2 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:13:53
3 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:13:25
4 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:12:31
I think someone should print that and ask Moyes to put it up in the changing room and all over the training ground. A few copies around Goodison wouldn’t go amiss.
Let’s see how they cope then.
5 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:14:36
6 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:16:02
7 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:21:34
8 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:29:17
I write for a fan site myself, and that is the sort of article you would see in abundance. It has no place on an offical site in my opinion, and hopefully Chelsea will live to regret posting it.
My appetite has been whetted in anticipation of the next leg, trailing 2-1 or not trailing 2-1, it will still be an awesome night, one which I have yet to sample at Goodison Park.
To win would be unbelievable, I just cannot wait to be there to see it all unravel.
9 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:35:44
Won far less league titles than us won less FA Cup’s than us. No comparison between the clubs in terms of sucess and support!!
Ken Bates bought them for a nicker in the 80’s!!! Yeh a nicker. When the fuck would that happen to a club like Everton??
Couldn’t even fill the away end at Goodison and they were the reigning Champions!! No excuses that’s grim.
At the game last night no prizes for guessing who is the bigger club. It was laughable. Until that Russki twat appeared they were heading the same way as Luton.
These are the same thick cockney’s that write for the rag’s in Fleet Street saying England are gonna win the World Cup every other year. Norbert’s are living in Michael Jackson land.
10 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:49:05
11 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:51:53
12 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:00:05
13 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:01:29
14 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:01:53
15 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:14:36
16 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:29:08
17 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:39:00
18 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:29:52
(However he does have a point - that game was in the 04/05 season, if the game was over 1 leg Barca would have gone through and probably beaten Liverpool in the semi, therefore no 5-times noncense - this last remark is meant to be sarcastic, I think!)
NB - nice of him to acknowledge we had a severely depleted side due to injury, suspension and the ANC - small minded biggot
19 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:40:08
Let's ram it right back down their throats.
20 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:40:28
ps the CL contains g14 teams so don’t hold your breath on this being the case
21 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:39:23
At full live speed my immediate reaction was that it was a foul. Because my instinct told me that SWP just can’t leap above Lescott legally.
Then, when I finally got to see a replay it was obvious. Rather than this Chelsea beaut saying SWP rose like Tore Andre Slow he actually jumped into the back of Lescott, then leant down on him and prevented our man from taking the vital step back to let the harmless ball drift out towards the edge of the box.
I don’t think either Howard or Lescott are to blame because replays show that Tim clearly tells Jolly (who has just checked his sidelines and knows that the area to the right of him is safe for him to let the ball run into before presumably rounding and then lashing upfield) to "leave it".
What neither of them banked on was that the little goblin behind him was gonna use Lescott like a pole vault and effectively leave him with no choice but to let the ball hit him and hope for the best!
Lescott, ironically, was rightly leaving the bal, IMO, to avoid the type of clumsy deflection an arcing ball like that can take.
To my mind, as far as illegal challenges on Lescott in the area go, it was right up (down?) there with the Carragher/Clattenburg one.
No-one, though, from a Toffee perspective seems to be complaining about this. Weird.
And from the Chelsea point of view it gets conveniently overlooked and now they continue to bleat about the bias of Phil Walton who was given no option by the routinely dismissed JOM to add to his collection of red cards.
Am I alone?
22 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:49:55
23 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:00:48
24 Posted 09/01/2008 at 21:48:06
25 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:09:15
Goals from Victor Anichebe and James Vaughan earned the Blues a share of the spoils
26 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:01:31
If they cannot be motivated by that, nothing will motivate them to win anything this season.
Come on Blues lets do it this time, no more silly mistakes,no more excuses, just stuck it where it hurts.
27 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:09:15
Goals from Victor Anichebe and James Vaughan earned the Blues a share of the spoils
28 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:16:47
The Everton Official website is a biased site but never to that level. What an absolute wanker.
Neville rode the tackle but didn?t make fuck all about it.
I am fucking annoyed now
29 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:32:00
On the topic of own goals I think this lamentable miscalculation by Chelsea FC official site may prove to be one.
30 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:34:38
31 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:38:14
32 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:48:06
SOMEONE MUST GET A COPY TO FINCH FARM!!!!!! NO TEAM TALK NEEDED!!!
33 Posted 09/01/2008 at 22:34:07
Most of the comments are over the top and I suppose meant to be tongue in cheek. Still, even if it is an attempt at humour, I think that it shows an underlying arrogant attitude. Anyway, should serve as a good motivational tool for our boys.
34 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:05:32
I rang them because I was annoyed that the presenter was a (self-confessed) Chelsea fan, and I thought that we went 2-1 down as the result of a foul.
And the Toons were talking about Big Sam - I just wanted to make the point that Moyes/ EFC have done quite well together over the last five or six years.
If I’d have read that Chelsea official site article before I rang - well, I wouldn’t have picked up the phone. I would have been far too angry.
35 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:09:56
36 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:25:07
You would never see something like that from Arsenal fans because they like us are real fans who actually feel emotion when their team wins and despair when the lose. Chelsea fans (of whom there were very few prior to 1996 which says it all) get no more excited about their soccer team than they do about Surrey Cricket Club or deciding what sandwich to bring for lunch to the Dixons or Currys they work at as computer geeks.
My point is don?t get worked up about the words of half-wits who probably would think Dixie Dean was a country singer and that Gary Lineker spent his whole career at White Hart Lane.
37 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:27:47
I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE BEAT THEM !!!!!
(Well done to the 6,000 travelling fans last night, you sounded great, especially enjoyed the ’Feed the Yak’ chant after the goal.)
38 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:36:13
39 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:36:23
40 Posted 09/01/2008 at 23:39:47
Lets not make this a class/ political thing. I have always been a conservative Evertonian and cannot believe I am alone. Let's just do them and repost it on their site afterwards! COYB.
41 Posted 10/01/2008 at 00:50:58
Who the hell are Chelsea?
Until the Russian came on board they had no team and no history.
For all the money they have spent they are still competing with Liverpool for 3rd place
42 Posted 10/01/2008 at 00:49:50
43 Posted 10/01/2008 at 00:44:49
You can?t blame the guy, he just hates 2-leg matches, afterall seeing his side?s pathetic attempts at second legs in the Champions League over the last 5 years of "the special one" resorting to throwing a defender (who has never scored for Chelsea in his life) up front, wouldn't you?
44 Posted 10/01/2008 at 00:47:42
I would presume this is not the position of these individuals (though I wonder about Kenyon) and therefore the article should not be present on the official site.
If the same article had been posted on a fan site I would still have considered it ill-informed nonsense but the writer would have been perfectly entitled to put forward his view. However Chelsea FC has an obligation to respect all opponents.
The ridiculous complaint that they were weakened would seem laughable were it not for the fact that Sky so blatantly supported it. On at least SEVEN occasions during the match the commentators mentioned Chelsea having players missing without once mentioning that we had two strikers and a right-back in midfield. Poor Chelsea, having to play their £34 million worth of wingers and replacing Lampard with the one-time World Player of the Year-shortlisted captain of Germany. I seriously considered turning off the TV and listening to the radio because I was so annoyed.
I hope we have Arteta back for the second-leg, with a bit of creativity we might have a chance. Shove on big Vic to give them hell!
45 Posted 10/01/2008 at 01:37:19
46 Posted 10/01/2008 at 02:38:52
47 Posted 10/01/2008 at 08:42:59
No mention in it of their fouls e.g. Sidwell?s on Carsley when he blatently stood on his ankle.
48 Posted 10/01/2008 at 10:50:29
49 Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:13:20
In fact I did e-mail them whilst I was on their site and told them what I thought of the article [ in very lady-like terms]. That was about 10.00 a.m. Was promsied a reply in approximately 20 minutes - needless to say I am still waiting!!!
50 Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:00:51
As already touched upon by toffeeweb, I cannot beleive that such a one sided piece of nonsense can be published on Chelsea's official site!
Chelsea's 'everybody hates us and we don't care' mentality is displayed at its worst by what this Giles Smith has to say. Yes Chelsea played very well and they should be proud, but to degrade Everton, a top 6 side that have already held Chelsea once at Stamford bridge this season and only lost due to a stoppage time calamity on Tuesday is disgusting in my view. Some of the stuff this guy writes is unbeleivable and I urge all Evertonians to read what he has to say. I for one have written to the Chelsea official club website to complain and I hope other blues will follow suit. We deserve better, even from a Chelsea fan!
51 Posted 11/01/2008 at 06:53:26
52 Posted 10/01/2008 at 16:42:50
Dear Giles
I read your piece on the Chelsea website regarding the midweek game with Everton this week with amazement. I have never read such a biased and frankly idiotic piece of sports writing in all my born days. Firstly, your suggestions for giving teams the choice of whether to play a second leg of a two legged semi-final are at best laughable. The first leg of this tie was played at Stamford Bridge and as such gave HOME advantage to Chelsea, so for your scheme to work there would have to be a neutral venue for the first leg. This of course would have an influence on the outcome of the game. Also, you suggest that this would be a good option where the outcome of the second game would be a formality, and seem to be suggesting that this is the case following a narrow away defeat for Everton which resulted from a fluke own goal. (If you can see far enough into the future to see the score could you let me know so I can put a bet on.)Everton are not the kind of team to roll over for anyone least of all a trumped up Millwall with money like Chelsea, and we are confident of getting a result at home against any side, even one that has spent £100 million more on players than ourselves.
You insult Everton and David Moyes in particular by suggesting that they would walk away from a semi-final tie for fear of being beaten. Someone has to lose in a semi-final, that's the whole point, but until the full 180 minutes are up then nobody has lost. You might well fall on your less than attractive face following the replay, but even if Chelsea do triumph it will not be a walkover and Everton FC will never lie down in any game, let alone a cup semi-final. Unfortunately, Everton will not bow out after 90 minutes, and you will have to go through the "tiresome formality" of playing another 90 minutes of football against a side that has exactly the same number of home wins in the league as Chelsea.
The "tiresome and hidebound" rules you speak of are the same for all the teams in the tournament and it sounds more like you are not relishing the prospect of having to travel up to Goodison Park and play against an attritional team that matched yours at 1-1 until a foul in the area from Shaun Wright-Phillips led to an OWN goal from Lescott. You also fail to mention that but for the foot of the post James McFadden would have given Everton a 2-1 lead in a game where they had a man advantage, which surely would have led to Chelsea pushing forward much more and leaving Chelsea's back line exposed to counter attacks.
I wonder if you were actually at the game? I was there and I saw a Chelsea team dominate despite losing Mikel to a red card that he probably didn't deserve - on that much I agree with you. But Everton did pile on pressure to good effect to pull level with a fine finish from Yakubu, and limited Chelsea to very few opportunities in the second half. The goal, as I mentioned above was an aberration by the otherwise heroic Joleon Lescott.
You finally state that you are "not sure what you are sure about" and this is the only part of your article that really made any sense.
See you at Goodison with your crystal ball 'Mystic Dick'.
Daniel Marfany
53 Posted 10/01/2008 at 17:14:52
David, I don't know if this will reach you but this is an article from the official Chelsea site - hope you can use it to wind the lads up for the 2nd leg. Good luck, and hope you stuff them, Danny Broderick
I was delighted to get a reply shortly after saying ; Thanks for that Danny, David has seen it
Let?s just go for it on the 23rd January and thank you for taking the time to send an e mail through.
Regards
Sue Palmer
PA to the Manager
Hope he pins it up on the wall and the lads knock them out - it's all they deserve.
54 Posted 10/01/2008 at 21:53:44
55 Posted 11/01/2008 at 15:02:13
"I've just read the pathetic article on your website about last nightsmatch and am shocked at it's content, which ridicules Everton and putsChelsea across as a completely arrogant club. I'd expect to read such an article on a fanzine site but not on anofficial site. I'm not even going to go in to huge detail because you're not worth morethan this brief e-mail. All I'll say is, anyone can buy sucess which is all you've done. I'drather support a proper club with proper fans and roots. Half of yourfans don't even understand the rules and are middle/upper class yuppiescontent with being ripped off by your club. Have you compared Chelsea's honours list with Everton's? Well, you'll see that yours isn't a patch on Everton's. Where were you when you were shit?"
Chelsea Response
"Hi With regards to your email. Clearly the views in the article do not reflect those of Chelsea Football Club but should the article have caused offence among Everton fans then you have our apologies as that is certainly not the intention. Any article has to take into account the writer and Giles Smith is extremely well known as one of the most talented around. His style isbased on an off-beat and irreverent approach rather than causing offense. Kind regards, kayleigh
56 Posted 11/01/2008 at 15:11:20


1 Posted 09/01/2008 at 20:03:18
Even mentioning having the option to turn down the return leg is laughable. What the tit also fails to realise is that their star striker ?Drogba? rolls around on the deck every week like he has just been harpooned. Let?s create the atmosphere of Bayern Munich 85, and in Sharpy?s words, ?suck the goals in?. We can do it.