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Moyes Linked to Newcastle Job

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Just seen on Sky Sports, there has been a betting surge on Moyes to take over at Newcastle. I cannot see that happening myself, I hope its just a case of the media linking everyone to the job.
Stuart Mitchell, Milton Keynes     Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:02:26

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Michael Kenrick
Hmmmm... now why do I see a clear chance here for some series Marsh baiting?

It struck me last night, watching Sky, how important the betting world has become to their news delivery. Another aspect of their coverage that strikes me as utterly crass... but of course it fits with the FM mindset. I guess I'm losing the battle here...!!!

Aside to Lyndon: couldn't we make some money running our own "competitions", charging a small fee (wager) to enter. Who will be the next to sign... Place your bets!

Graham Nolan
1   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:24:40

Why don’t Toffeweb introduce a new section to the website entitled....."Speculation & Fantasty"? That should keep everyone happy.
By the by, I would be hugely, nae massively surprised if Moyes went to Newcastle.
Jon Berry
2   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:27:56

It aint gonna happen, simple as that. Moyes would have to have some sort of breakdown to take that job.

Newcastle fans on 5 live last night hoping for Mourinho. They’re kidding themselves. What decent manager would want to go there. Even twitchy head harry doesn’t want it.
Erik Dols
3   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:32:18

You have to be an outright idiot to move to Newcastle as a manager. They’ll buy some big name striker who hardly ever plays and twelve decent midfielders who are even more injury prone than my mom and fire you in half a year because the worthless defence keeps giving goals away. At least that’s how Newcastle has been doing it this millenium.
Alex Kociuba
4   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:37:27

Ladbrokes today cut Moyes from 25/1 to 20/1.
Allan Hobbs
5   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:39:40

Sky Sports News is just the News of the World sports section on TV - its bollocks, don’t watch it. There is zero chance of DM walking out to go to Newcastle. Why would he go there? If anyone can give me one good reason that outweighs all the hard work he’s put in at Everton in the last 5 years, then I might entertain the idea!

Amazing.
Andy Ellams
6   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:48:26

I would be extremely surprised if David Moyes took the Geordie job, but never say definitely not in football. It has a nasty habit of coming back to bite you on the bum.
Alex Kociuba
7   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:47:04

Maybe he feels he has taken Everton as far as he can and relishes a fresh challenge at a stuggling club with lots of money?

I’d imagine his wage would be significantly higher than it is now too?

I don’t personally think he will go, but if I was the Newcastle chairman surely yuo’d have to conisder Moyes.
Allan Hobbs
8   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:52:48

Think about it though - how many times have we heard DM talk about wanting to compete in Europe, talk at length about the building thats going on at Everton, how he talks so freely about the team as ’we’. Theres no way he’d walk out just because the papers/bookies have him on their hitlist.

If this is bookie-talk then jeez it means bugger all, they just want our money ffs!
Alex Kociuba
9   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:55:17

William Hill have cut Moyes in the last hour from 33/1 to 20/1.
Allan Hobbs
10   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:59:20

Just to put this into perspective; on the Sky Sports betting page they have at 1000/1.......Ant + Dec.

Can we stop talking about this now please.
Craig Taylor
11   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:04:07

What a sad excuse for a football team. Newcastle Utd is a club for losers, £10 says McClaren ends up there.

No chance Moyes will go there.
Allan Hobbs
12   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:05:17

Is it just me, or is Toffeeweb a bit screwy at the moment? My posts keep going mental crashing n stuff, and the font is all over the place on the site?
Alex Kociuba
13   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:01:35

Well to put it into proper perspective:

Klinnsmann 40/1
Pearce 40/1
Coppel 40/1
Keegan 33/1
Ince 33/1
Houllier 33/1
Venables 28/1
Mourinho 25/1
McLaren 25/1

Although some of these names are ridiculous, I would of hoped Moyes would have bigger odds than most of these.
Michael Kenrick
14   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:07:07

Alan, I’m having a devil of a time getting server response to keep track on the operational side.... Jusdiing by the sheer number of comments posted today, I think we are becoming too popular... Some people are going to have to be culled... Volunteers!
Allan Hobbs
15   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:12:00

Michael - I can think of a few names!

I’m off for some grub, that should free up some space for your readership.
Mark Stone
16   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:09:38

They got rid of of Big Sam largely because of the style of football. I don’t think that Moyes would go in and turn that round!
Marcus Dawson
17   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:13:03

Victims of your own success Michael, can?t have it both ways mate. On the subject of Moyes and Newcastle, the odds reflect the betting, if the bookies are taking money on Moyes then his odds will shorten, it doesn?t mean there?s a done deal or anything like it. However, he must be on their wish list (amongst others) and it?s not beyond the bounds of possibility to imagine that he could be sounded out.

I think there?s a greater chance he will move on at the end of this season if we end up winning nothing and finishing outside top 6. His currency is pretty high right now and if he can?t see improvement he may decide to move on.
John Jones
18   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:18:02

Didn’t he submit/discuss his five year plan with the board recently?

He’s got a stable job at Everton, who are slowly improving and building for the future.

Newcastle is the most insecure job in football, and too much work needs doing there - it’d be like him starting all over again.
Steve Guy
19   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:21:10

I am astonished this thread developed legs.

Moyes will be signing a new contract in the very near future so that he can carry through on the second 5 year plan he discussed and agreed with the Everton Board last Summer. Long term contracts for Arteta, Tiny etc. were a part of that, as were the development and purchase of youth players for the future, not forgetting more quality purchases, like the Yak, Pienaar (he will be bought) and now Manny.

Whilst Tony Marsh and a few others might be delighted for that plan to be torn up with Moyes departure, they are in a minority as far as I’m concerned. The day Moyes leaves is not a day I am looking forward to.
Allan Hobbs
20   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:43:04

Look, the list is bollocks, its a who’s who of European football management, nothing more.

Kevin Keegan?? He retired from football totally and has been quoted as such.

Jose Mourinho?? He’s not even allowed to manage another PL club this season as part of his contract with Chelsea!

Its full of bullshit - ignore it.
Paul Thompson
21   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:37:11

No, David Moyes almost certainly won’t be taking the Newcastle job, but if he was a regular reader of this website he might well be tempted to. Ok, recent advances have limited the number of contributors willing to align themselves with Tony Marsh and co, but there have been times when every other post was calling Moyes a fool or a failure. In The Times today there was an interesting quote from a Newcastle fan - ’When will the penny ever drop at Newcastle? The Everton team of today is a product of years of slow planning, not firing someone at the first sign of something not going right’. Whilst there is always room for passionate comemnt and criticism, impatient, short sighted-fans are often the reason for the ludicrously short life-span of the contemporary Premiership manager.
Neil Pearse
22   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:49:31

No chance at all. End of.

Moyes may be a lot of things, but completely stark raving bonkers he is not.

And oh yeah, Newcastle fans would be really thrilled by a manager whose first priority would be to stop them conceding goals and to shape up or ship out their lazy prima donnas.
Marcus Dawson
23   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:53:51

Paul, there?s nothing contemporary about Moyes, remember that cardigan ffs.
Allan Hobbs`
24   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:55:42

David Moyes - best Manager since Kendall the first time by a country mile. He may even end up being better than Kendall purely by the building of a legacy, which is clearly what he wants to do; something Kendall failed to do.
Jonathan Tasker
25   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:05:02

Alan, Moyes, "better than Kendall", are you having a laugh?
Phil Harris
26   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:06:59

No chance ! It has taken David Moyes almost six years to get us were we are now. Newcastle fans would?nt put up with waiting that long... Hands off Moyes!
Allan Hobbs
27   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:22:23

Not at the moment Jonathan, but in time - plus I meant that more regarding the legacy - Kendalls legacy wasnt great. the team fell apart and nothing more came of Everton really. Moyes is building for the future.
Alex Kociuba
28   Posted 10/01/2008 at 13:47:30

Allan Hobbs,

Mourinho allegedly had an agreement in regard to the compensation he received from his early contract termination.

This, if true, is reversable in a number of ways. For instance, the financial fine of going to another PL club could be picked up by Newcastle? Any alleged agreement is unlikely to be protected by law or the FA.
Gareth Hughes
29   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:24:35

Bill K is on Sky now totally denying this Moyes to Newcastle story. End of thread?
Terry Smith
30   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:32:52

There is no way on earth Moyes would jump ship to go to Newcastle. He has just started to assemble his own team that is starting to look like its going places. He has 100% backing of the chairman whether we like it or not. Plus he is very settled with his family in Preston. The only team he would go to was if a top 4 team came in for him or if the big 2 in Glasgow but he even said that would be later in life.
Jay Harris
31   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:27:22

Allan
I usually respect your opinion but HK was outstanding as a player and manager, DM isnt!!
The only thing that fell apart was HEYSELL and HK?s alleged drinking problems.
If only Moyes could deliver half of what Kendall did we?d all be delirious but I believe he?s just a good above average manager.
As to the rumours it does your contract renewal negotiations no harm to be linked with a money no object poorly performing team to get what you want does it.He is a canny scot after all.Thought you were getting off for something to eat anyway!!
Adam Carey
32   Posted 10/01/2008 at 14:33:44

Isn’t Moyes in the frame everytime the barcodes sack a manager. If the redtops and Sky are anything to go by he’s been on his way to the Toon 3 or 4 times since he came to us!

He’s a good manager who has stabilised and started to move on a big club which had been under-performing. Of course they want him...
Allan Hobbs
33   Posted 10/01/2008 at 15:01:42

Jay - I think I may have mislead a few people. I dont mean I think DM is a better manager than HK or that he’s done more, my point is that HK’s legacy was that the team fell apart and we entered the dark ages. DM is building for a bright future and for that he should be held in very high regard by us.

Alex - the compensation package I believe is around the 20 million mark. I doubt thats likely do you!?
Mark Murphy
34   Posted 10/01/2008 at 15:06:48

Like Steve I?m astonished this thread is still attracting comments.
erm.....
DOH!
However....Ever since the day Rooney left nothing would surprise me!
Brian Waring
35   Posted 10/01/2008 at 15:08:12

You were right Michael. But It took longer than I thought, step forward Steve Guy, for being the 1st one to have a little dig at Tony Marsh. Do you know what? You lads are always saying that Tony is always looking for an opportunity to have a dig at Moyes. Well,you lads are just the same, always looking for the opportunity to have a dig at Tony, even though this piece submitted had nothing to do with him. I wonder by the end of this thread, how many times Tony’s name will have been mentioned?
John Lloyd
36   Posted 10/01/2008 at 15:26:06

Allan I think I see your point, but I very strongly disagree.

The reason our side fell apart was players wanting to play in Europe which wasnt an option at the time hence Gary Stevens & Trevor Steven going to Rangers & Linekar going to Barca coupled with the fact that the Rat, Sharpey & Sheeds didnt produce the quality due to advancing years and a fondness for the sauce!! ha ha. Cant blame Kendall for that mate!! (well the sauce possibly!!)
Allan Hobbs
37   Posted 10/01/2008 at 15:41:36

John - fair point mate, I cant help but feel DM is doing all the right things with regard to the future of EFC though. the stadium issue aside (lets not go there today!), I do feel that we’re on the cusp of something really good for the club and DM has to be seen as being at the heart of that.
Patty Beesley
38   Posted 10/01/2008 at 15:36:20

Over my dead body !!!
Barry Kingham London
39   Posted 10/01/2008 at 12:15:16

The hilarious midday Sky Sports News report outside St James' Park just completely summed the preposterous self blown arrogance of Newcastle FC.

Apparently the latest word around the toon (according to 'sources') is that David Moyes is now a serious front runner for the Newcastle job now that Big Sam was sacked. What gives them the right to assume that Moyesy would leave EFC for NUFC - that poisoned chalice club with over hyped supporters who boo their team off the pitch week in week out, with little historical achievement, in a one club town?

Lay off Newcastle, and get back to appointing another hoof ball, dirty minded manager who (allegedly) accepts bungs. Redknapp anyone?

Will Mitchell
40   Posted 10/01/2008 at 16:03:10

Nail on the head Barry. Well said.
patty beesley
41   Posted 10/01/2008 at 16:25:43

Check the Everton Website - Kenwright states Moyes is not going and doesn’t know how the rumours started etc . etc.
Allan Hobbs
42   Posted 10/01/2008 at 16:37:30

Dear Uncle Bill,

The rumours probably started right here!

Lots of love

Allan.
Neil Styles
43   Posted 10/01/2008 at 16:39:10

Apart from the fact that these rumours are utter nonsense, what pissed me off this morning was several barcode fans comparing our club in stature to theirs. Eh, I think our history is a little more noteworthy than theirs.
Newcastle fans have a collective head stuck firmly in the clouds.
Reality is that leaving Everton for Newcastle would be a substantial step down in pedigree and heritage.
Micky Norman
44   Posted 10/01/2008 at 16:41:03

Newcastle have just been on the phone and i’ve given them official permission to talk to my dog (who is black and white). Negotiations will start when he’s had a walk. Get your money on Duncan at very long odds.
Shaun Kinnair
45   Posted 10/01/2008 at 17:06:37

Well I’m glad everyone is shitting there pants... lol... it just shows what a good job Mr Moyes is doing and we wouldn’t want him to leave us now, not while the club is heading up the table and in the right direction with every year that passes. He wont leave, full stop, is heart is with Everton.
Tony Fryer
46   Posted 10/01/2008 at 17:09:31

20/1 aint exactly short odds for a vacant position... not that Moyes would even consider going to a club which is famous for dropping their manager at the sign of even the slightest hic-up. The man appreciates that time is needed to get a job done.... something NUFC never give
Andy Macfarlane
47   Posted 10/01/2008 at 18:33:57

I saw the "Your on Sky Sports" program last night, and the presenter threw in a comment to Peter Beagrie about David Moyes (one of the few British Premiership Managers) being maybe someone Newcastle might consider, and I thought - here we go. Tomorrow's headlines will grow from "Moyes would be a possible choice" to "Newcastle move for Moyes" within 24 hours, and all of it complete press bastards. And so it came to pass!

Mind you, without mentioning any names, I?m surprised a considerable number of contributors to this particular site haven?t been on spouting "typical Kenwright. We have the opportunity to get rid of Dithering Davey, this imbecile with no tactical nouse, and, as usual, he messes up and stops it happening. SACK THE BOARD"

Maybe they?ll wait until our next defeat to crawl back out of the woodwork.
Alan Rolfe
48   Posted 10/01/2008 at 19:49:01

Re : andymac If DM has his way and the Blues repeat recent good form it will take at least 13 more games before we hear any sounds from the woodwork. DM is good enough for BK,me, andymac and many other Blues.

IMWT COYB
Andy Macfarlane
49   Posted 10/01/2008 at 20:15:43

Amen. Alan
Robert Carney
50   Posted 10/01/2008 at 20:22:45

On 909 bbc radio this evening they report asurge on Keegan returning.

On Sky, there is a vested interest on speculating. SKY BET.

Lets all get real.
Andy Macfarlane
51   Posted 10/01/2008 at 23:19:12

Ooooh errr. Just noticed my earlier post. I was quoted as posting "and all of it complete press bastards" In fact, what I posted (in order not to offend) was "and all of it complete press b * * * * * * s" which was meant to be innoffensive shorthand for "complete press bollocks".

Hey Site Manager Guys. What gives?

Not really bothered, but I thought you might like to know that there is a bit of a programatical glitch. Well, fuck it, anyway, if anyone is offended, I suppose!

I have a serious aversion to this PC b*******s of putting fucking asterisks in naughty words... Come on, lads and lasses, who exactly are you protecting with this garbage? Obvioulsy people (unlike me) who care to actually count the twating things to figure out which bloody word you couldn't bring yourself to write in full. Do you honestly believe your kids don't know those words? And what's the first thing they are going to do when they see one?

English is a fantastically expressive and supremely rich language, an argument some use to claim that the use of expletives is a sign of a limited volcabulary. I see it more as an appreciation of a particularly durable Anglo-Saxon trait. There's no doubting the lasting authenticity and incredible flexibility of some of those ancient words. Death to fucking asterisks!

ps: Let's be having your full name too please, Andy!

Jay Harris
52   Posted 11/01/2008 at 03:51:11

Andy did you swallow a shakespeare Tome for supper or what.
Appy Arry is going there.
Relax boys I couldnt think of a more appropriate manager to staeal a few more millions from the treasure chest while achieving mid table mediocrity.
Andy Hudson
53   Posted 11/01/2008 at 09:43:04

Ok we all know that Moyes to Newcastle United isn't going to happen... but can we please stop the skunk bashing?!

I've lived in Newcastle for 6 years now and am getting pretty annoyed with the torrent of abuse aimed at the people of Newcastle. Some of the comments are just pathetic stereotypes and coming from the fine residents of Liverpool, a city famous for its shell suited curly black haired scousers who would rob you soon as look at you stereotype is pretty ironic to say the least.

Living in the city I can tell you the following... these are not my opinions but fact!

1) The toon army are a passionate group who care greatly about their team. Despite them being starved of sucess for 60 years they still regularly fill one of the biggest stadiums in the country.

2) Newcastle United have the potential to be a massive club. They have a huge dedicated fan base which stretches way out in to surrounding counties like Durham and beyond.

3) Given the right manager, who is given time and money they could break into the top 6 on a regular basis, and challenge the top 4 (along with ourselves and spurs).

4) Yes they are living on past glories (arn't we to some extent?) but they had a great team under Keegan and the title race was a hell of a lot more interesting back then, thAn it is now.

I don't believe Moyes would consider the job or any other job bar one of the 'top 4' (excluding liverpool of course, who I dont believe he'd ever manage due to his love and respect of our club), but i'm getting annoyed by the sad stereotypes being thrown around by some people on this site.

Yes were a bigger club if you look at trophies, history etc, but Newcastle United are still a potentialy good team who could easily challenge us given their resources, excellent stadium and huge fanbase.

Let's show a bit of respect for the Toon army even if their team is doing crap at the moment.


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