ToffeeWeb - Season 2007-08

Paul Lenehan
1 Posted 17/01/2008 at 14:35:01

Howard
Neville Lescott Yobo Valente
Arteta Fernandes Carsley Cahill Pienaar
Yak

James Elworthy
2 Posted 17/01/2008 at 14:37:42

Howard
Neville Yobo Lescott Baines

Arteta Carsley Cahill Pienaar

Yakubu Johnson
2nd IX
Ruddy
Hibbert Jagielka Stubbs Valente

Gosling Gravesen Fernandes Osman

Vaughan Anichebe

No place for Wessels he is total garbage
No current place for Fernandes in the first 11 but if Moyes goes for 5 in midfield obviousl yI would put him in, I think he will eventually get in the team though regularly
I dont rate Valente and never have so I would always play Baines ahead of him. I havent included VDM or Da Silva as they dont seem to have a future at the club nor any of the youngsters ie Rodwell Kissock Agard Justiewicz at the moment.

Dan McKie
3 Posted 17/01/2008 at 14:44:28

Howard

Neville Yobo Lescott Baines

Fernandes
Arteta Pienaar
Osman Cahill
Yakubu

I know this is harsh on Carsley and possibly Jags but attacking wise I would love to see this team out!

Lue Glover
4 Posted 17/01/2008 at 14:41:12

Wow, what a dilemma. Both teams mentioned so far exclude Jags and AJ with Carsley, Baines, Osman and Valente as options. No place for Victor, Hibbo or Vaughan and no questions about Faddy who is Birmingham bound.

For me it’s
Howard
Neville
Yobo
Jags
Lescott
Carsley
Piennar
Arteta
Fernandes
Cahill
Yakubu

Bench

Baines
Osman
Vaughan
AJ
Ruddy.

or Jags on bench with Baines LB

It’s a headache because based on the game v Man City, the back four played very well together so to leave Hibbo and Nuno not even on the bench seems a bit harsh.
Almost an embarrassment of riches in defence but not a great deal in midfield.
Oh happy days. Come on you Blues.

Hari M R
5 Posted 17/01/2008 at 14:58:15

mine best eleven

Howard
Neville
Yobo
Lescott
Baines
Arteta
Fernandes
Pienaar
Cahill
Yakubu
Johnson

Paul Hennessey
6 Posted 17/01/2008 at 15:09:55

Howard

Neville
Yobo
Lescott
Baines
Arteta
Fernandes
Pienaar
Cahill
Osman
Yakubu (eventually Vaughan)

Anyone who thinks we can play 4-4-2 hasn?t been watching this season!!!! At least not with Cahill in there!

Chris Kearns
7 Posted 17/01/2008 at 15:35:31

For Me:

Howard
Neville Yobo Lescott Baines
Arteta Fernandes Carsley Piennar
Cahill
Yakubu

Subs:

Wessells
Stubbs
Gravessen
Vaughan
Anichebe

Martin Cutler
8 Posted 17/01/2008 at 15:35:12

Regardless of what line-up or formation Moyes goes with...the big thing now is that he can have some very good players sat on the bench itching to do their bit....all players are fighting for a spot so they all want to give 100%, whether they are in the starting line-up or sat on the bench as a sub.
There is nothing wrong with having somebody as a sub who can give Moyes the option to change formation or tactics in a game.
No surprise in saying that of course but my point is that even the line-up on the bench these days looks bloody good!

COYB!

Yankee Blue
9 Posted 17/01/2008 at 15:51:20

Ian,

I agree on the formation but I would start Carsley with Osman on the bench. This makes our midfield "bigger". The issue I have with Osman is that a lot of his shots on goal are weak. His work ethic is great but he doesn’t have the power. There were many shots this year that he had on goal that I thought he should have finished better. Secondly, with Peanut, Arteta and Manny, I don’t think that we need to have 4 creative players in the midfield. I would much rather have Cars playing the holding role in case one of our backs is caught out of position during a counter attack.

Seamus Murphy
10 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:10:30

Our strongest 11 in their best positions:

Howard
Neville,Yobo,Lescott,Baines
Carsley
Arteta,Fernandes,Pienaar
Cahill
Yakubu

But lets face it - how often are we gonna have all those players available at the same time so good to have AJ,Vaughan,Vic,Osman,Jags,Valente,Hibbo,Gravesen,Stubbs all as cover.

Stefan Tosev
11 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:10:21

Howard
Neville Lescott Yobo Baines
Arteta Fernandes Carsley Cahill Pienaar
Yak

you got everything craft,skill,goals

Neil Coleran
12 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:17:47

Games at Home

Howard

Neville Lescott Yobo Baines

Pienaar Fernandes Cahill Arteta

Anichebe Yakubu

Away Games

Howard

Neville Lescott Yobo Baines

Pienaar
Fernandes Carsley Cahill Arteta
Yakubu

David Whitwell
13 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:32:09

Personally I’m a massive fan of Vaughan so mine would be:

Howard
Neville, Yobo, Lescott, Baines
Arteta, Fernandes, Carsley, Cahill, Pienaar
Vaughan

Subs
Jags, Yak, Johnson, Osman, Gosling?
Idea being Jags as pot Goalie if needed!

Mike Blakey
14 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:52:38

It must just be me but Baines just hasnt impressed me at all and he’s in all your staring 11’s

He’s too short, just like Naysmith was and will attact the same long ball to the left back area that he did. And he’s injury prone!!!!

Nuno is 10 times the player Baines is or ever will be!!!!

Santosh Benjamin
15 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:48:23

Nice to have to actually think on whom to leave out for a change...my team would be:

Howard
Neville Yobo(Jags) Lescott Baines
Carsley
Arteta Cahill Fernandes Pienaar(Ossie)
Yakubu(Johnson)

Subs:
Ruddy
Stubbs
Vaughan
Anichebe< Gravesenbr />

Those in brackets are chosen till the ACN gets over

mick Mc
16 Posted 17/01/2008 at 16:55:43

David you would pick Vaughan and leave 20 million quid sitting on the bench?
Howard
Neville
Yobo
Jags
Lescott
Arteta
Fernandes
Carsley
Cahill
Pienarr
Yakubu
I know Lescott is probably better at centre half, but when he plays left back he looks the business, Baines I need to see more of him at keft back. I think Cahill plays that position just off the striker as good as anyone in the league. 4-4-1-1 for me, loads of options with the ball and solid without it. That team for me would match most in the premiere league, and in Europe I might start with the same line up, but bring either AJ or Vaughn on last 20.

Connor Rohrer
17 Posted 17/01/2008 at 17:16:50

............................Howard.................................

Neville..........Yobo............Lescott.........Baines

Arteta.........Carsley.......Fernandes......Pienaar

...............................Cahill.................................

.............................Yakubu...............................

The best and most likely team we would play with everyone fit.

Dan Ferrie
18 Posted 17/01/2008 at 17:26:54

............................Howard.................................

Neville..........Yobo............Lescott.........Baines

Arteta.........Carsley.......Fernandes......Pienaar

...............................Cahill.................................

.............................Yakubu...............................

The best and most likely team we would play with everyone fit.

Well Done, that is exactly the team i would play perfect mate! :)

Lewis Abbott
19 Posted 17/01/2008 at 19:30:35

............................Howard.................................

Neville..........Yobo............Lescott.........Baines

Arteta.........Carsley.......Fernandes......Pienaar

...............................Cahill.................................

.............................Yakubu...............................

The best and most likely team we would play with everyone fit.

perfect. you saved me a job their. COYB

Dave Reiner
20 Posted 17/01/2008 at 19:45:17

.................Wessels..................
Cahill.......Yakubu....Vaughan...VDM
SuperVic.....Ruddy....Jagielka....Hibbo
.......Stubbs............Neville...
In a related story, I was up for the Newcastle job

Eric Holland
21 Posted 17/01/2008 at 20:29:14

Howard

Jags Yobo Lescott
Carsley

Arteta Cahill Fernandes Pienar

Vaughan Yak

Dutch Schaffaer
22 Posted 17/01/2008 at 21:44:32

--------------------Howard--------------------

Neville------Yobo-----Lescott-----Baines

---------------------Carsley-------------------

Arteta-----------Osman------------Pienaar

---------------------Cahill----------------------

---------------------Yakubu--------------------

Subs: Wessells, Hibbert, Jagielka, Fernandes, Johnson, Anichebe & Vaughan.

Peter Bourke
23 Posted 17/01/2008 at 22:01:30

Dave Reiner...mate you had me in stiches. Very Funny. With everyone so serious it was a breathe of fresh air to laugh. I would love to have a beer with you one day.

Mike Coates
24 Posted 17/01/2008 at 22:08:23

Against top sides (brings out best in Hibbert?!)

............................Howard.................................

Hibbert..........Yobo............Lescott.........Baines

Arteta.........Osman.......Fernandes......Pienaar

...............................Cahill.................................

.............................Yakubu...............................

And against mid table and lower team sides..

............................Howard.................................

Neville..........Yobo............Lescott.........Valente

Arteta.........Osman.......Fernandes......Pienaar

...............................Cahill.................................

.............................Yakubu...............................

I liked seeing Johnson and Yakubu up forward as well but with Cahill in the side I can’t work it :(

Carsley is a great player, but I think with Fernandes now in, he may be on the outer :( The amount of yellows he’s been accumulating and the way he’s been getting them of late, looks like he’s just playing all out in his final games.

Dutch Schaffaer
25 Posted 17/01/2008 at 22:28:28

Its crazy how everyone is putting Fernandes ahead of Pienaar and Carsley.

Pienaar and Carsley have been absolutely fantastic this season. Carsley in particular has been the glue of the side and arguably out most important player.

Pienaar has been outstanding too and shown more in his loan spell then Fernandes ever did first time around.

Yet still its Fernandes who gets picked ahead of them. Thats crazy, this is a player who joins us after flopping at his last club.

Without playing a single minute your all ready to drop either Carlsey or Pienaar? Thats crazy to me.

Anthony Newell
26 Posted 17/01/2008 at 23:09:13

Dutch, I’m surprised as you had the Yak down as a lazy, good for nothing tub of lard!

Colin Malone
27 Posted 17/01/2008 at 23:10:16

Those who have left Carsley out. Who's going to do the fantastic job Lee has been doing since being in that position? And I'm saying not just this season; my player of the year.

Anthony Newell
28 Posted 17/01/2008 at 23:22:43

Player of the year would be Lescott without any doubt

Connor Rohrer
29 Posted 17/01/2008 at 23:13:34

Dutch, I picked Fernandes ahead of Osman because in my opinion he is a better player.

"Just wondering now what all us Evertonians think our best starting 11 is"?

That was the question and people have answered who they think our best eleven is on paper.

Pienaar has had 24 games to impress whereas Fernandes has only had 8 so there’s no comparison. If they where to play the same amount of games then you’ve got a point but sadly you haven’t.

Didn’t Pienaar flop at Dortmund? Yes he did as did Arteta at Sociedad so really it means fuck all.

If People think Fernandes is a better player than the likes of Osman, Pienaar and Carsley then they have every right to include him in there team.

Stop being bitter just because you don’t like him. Your exactly the same with Yakubu.

Tom Campbell
30 Posted 17/01/2008 at 23:41:05

A couple of weeks ago before the Chelsea cup semi-final we could hardly field a team ha....this isn't my best 11 but just an idea

Howard

Yobo Jagielka Lescott

Neville Carsley

Arteta Fernandes Pienaar

Vaughan Yakabu

Tom Campbell
31 Posted 17/01/2008 at 23:53:03

Sorry about the big gap ha its not that defencive

Terence Regan
32 Posted 18/01/2008 at 08:34:08

Although not exactly to point on the question it is interesting to see how many go for Fernandes.

Question with Manny in and Jimmy Mac out who is it that shows flashes of genius, and can drift in and out of the game. Both? Add to that loyalty and scoring important match winning goals and we are shipping out the wrong guy.

Laurie Hartley
33 Posted 18/01/2008 at 10:49:37

Howard
Hibbert, Yobo,Lescott,Valente
Carsley
Arteta,Osman,Piennar
Cahill
Yakubu

Andrew Weston
34 Posted 18/01/2008 at 11:15:21

Howard

Neville Yobo Lescott Baines

Carsley

Arteta Osman Pienaar

Cahill

Yakubu

Plus Wessels, Jagileka, Fernandes, Johnson, Anichebe, Vaughan, Stubbs, Valente, Hibbert etc all good enough to step in when required. All in all a pretty good squad

Ed Casey
35 Posted 18/01/2008 at 11:45:46

Poor old Hibbo - he made 2 starting 11s from all that lot! If hes really not good enough for a handful of people to say hes worth a start then do people think we should get rid and bring someone in who can challenge Nev for the position - or is that the plan with Gosling?
Anyway, cheerio Faddy! Am sure all blues wish him the best of luck and a good career after what must have been a frustrating few years mostly sat on our bench! Lets hope we put the money to good use!

Andrew Weston
36 Posted 18/01/2008 at 12:18:33

I personally rate Hibbert highly as a defender. But i also think, as most seem to think, that Neville is a slightly better full-back, hence first choice in most line ups. Same goes for AJ, i rate him highly, i just think Yakubu’s a better striker and first choice at the moment

Colin Malone
37 Posted 18/01/2008 at 14:34:33

Carsley player of the year by a mile