ToffeeWeb - Season 2007-08

Stuart Mitchell
1 Posted 31/01/2008 at 20:08:41

Skysports reporting that we are going to make 2 loan signings. No comformation as to who they are though. Van Buyten I think is likely!

Eric Holland
2 Posted 31/01/2008 at 20:51:41

NO!
Short and not very sweet.

DAvid Moore
3 Posted 31/01/2008 at 20:55:15

BBC are saying that we are in talks with Riquelme and Ameobi. I question the Ameobi link as i don?t think we need any more strikers. THey also say that AJ is going to Bolton. LEts hope we get the ones in. I wouldn?t mind a decent right back though!!

Tony Part
4 Posted 31/01/2008 at 20:53:05

I think its just Sky Sports trying to keep the viewers interested until midnight so they are coming up with made up stories about every club still looking to sign players right up until the last minute..We should by now know last minute deals are not Moyes style..Nothing will happen,given we have sold Stubbs and McFadden we should replace them but we wont..Nowt will happen

Terry Downes
5 Posted 31/01/2008 at 17:26:26

Well, another transfer window has come and gone and yet again no-one as been bought ? only Fernandes on loan. Surely Moyes and the Board can't honestly believe we don't need a couple of new faces to strengthen an already weaker squad now than what we started with. If ? and i say "if" ... it all starts to go wrong from now on we'll all know where it started; while others strenghtened we dithered?

Tony Part
6 Posted 31/01/2008 at 20:56:16

David- As soon as you mentioned AJ going to Bolton I knew it was not worth putting the BBC on for reliable info..

Dutch Schaffaer
7 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:02:07

How is the squad weaker? We sold McFadden and Stubbs but brought in Gosling and Fernandes.

Swapping an older player past his best like Stubbs and bringing in a young highly rated youngster like Gosling makes good business and surely Fernandes is a far better player then McFadden?

It makes me laugh when people claim that letting Stubbs move on is a mistake and we desperately need to replace him. Why do we desperately need to replace him? He hardly played anyway. We have three very good central defenders (Yobo, Lescott & Jagielka) and we now have Jack Rodwell to provide the back-up now that Stubbs has gone.

At the start of the month we had Stubbs/McFadden and now we have Gosling/Fernandes.

I would say that during this January transfer window Moyes has strengethen the squad.

Keith Glazzard
8 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:12:54

Is Riquelme’s work permit still current?

Dan McKie
9 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:15:05

Riquelme again? Jeez, how many deadline days are we gonna hear about him signing? Dont know if he has the pace for the premier league, give him half hour on the ball and he will pick out a pass,otherwise...???

Eric Holland
10 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:17:30

Mcfadden for fernandes yes.
Stubbs for gosling I can’t see Moyes throwing Gosling in against the RS or manure etc, can you?

Dutch Schaffaer
11 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:22:13

At the start of January if you had offered the Everton fans the choice of:-

a) Stubbs & McFadden

OR

b) Gosling & Fernandes

I bet 95% of the fans would have chose option B. So why all the moaning, does anyone disagree that the squad has been improved?

Charlie Skinley
12 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:21:41

Dutch - I defend Moyes at all times, but for me the thing about letting Stubbs go now without a replacement is very simple... what if Jags or Lescott get injured in training or injured or suspended at Blackburn, we are fucked! We are not just sitting in mid table with nothing to play for but with a good chance of 4th! Plus with inuries an ANC and Cahill off with oz we are really week in midfield as well.

Dan McKie
13 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:33:27

Id like to see Moyes throw Gosling in and lets see him play, Spurs did with that kid Gunther who we were supposedly after, ok he was pretty shite but at least the fans got to see him!

Ray Said
14 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:31:24

Regarding loan players; can anyone clarify the rules on this? I have read posts stating clubs are allowed 2 only and we already have Fernandes, Pienaar and T G?

My opinion is that this is a good time to blood some of the younger players. I hate seeing a bench full of old faces and much prefer the young lads to have a real chance of developing by playing high pressure games. If the kids come through then great news. If they fail then move them on and bring the next generation through.

El-ray Jackson
15 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:37:49

Sky are reporting that there is some movement going on at Everton. Yeah right! Its probably Moyes just walking around!

Charlie Skinley
16 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:36:46

Dan, I’m sorry m8 but totally disagree. Now is not the time for the kids being thrown in for us to see. Now is the time we need good experienced players in the squad. Yes Jags and Lescott are playing well, but its if they get injured or suspended you need cover when you are trying to break into 4th place.

p.s. this is not an anti Moyes rant cos I am one of his biggest fans.... but I am just a bit concerned with the lack of cover.

Dutch Schaffaer
17 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:29:36

The ANC will be over soon and Yobo will return, then we will have a problem because Jagielka (who has really grown over the last few weeks) will possibly find himself on the bench.

Moyes biggest problem will be how does he fit three excellent central defenders (Yobo, Lescott & Jagielka) into the two positions, who gets left out?

And if Jagielka or Lescott (who hasn’t missed a game in two years) gets injured before Yobo returns, there are still options:-

Jack Rodwell - possibly Everton’s most highly regarded youngster since Wayne Rooney. Plays for England U18’s even though he’s only 16. Some would argue that Moyes should be playing him already.

Phil Neville - Everton’s Mr Versatile never lets us down and could no doubt do a decent job in central defence.

John Irving - Reserve team Captain and player of the year. Irving can play at centre back and having turned 18 recently he’s probably due a debut.

Nuno Valente - If push came to shove then an experienced player like Nuno Valente could do a job even if its not his natural position.

We may miss Stubb’s experience but its not as desperate a situation as some claim.

jason cooke
18 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:44:12

I agree and disagree with you Charlie. Yes we do need experienced cover but where is that going to come from and at what price. our young lads showed against AZ that they can handle the bigger games and with JP Kissock waiting in the wings i don’t think we need to panic I along with everyone else would liked to have seen a big name come in but we are EVERTON and we will be in forth place in may and i hope in the UEFA cup final. Lets get behind Moyes and the players and move on together.

Mark Pendleton
19 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:45:59

I think the match last night and to some extent this weekend’s match at Blackburn are to be our lowest points of the season in terms of squad availability. A draw or better at Blackburn would be a great result but i think after this we’ll have sufficient players.

Then, securing Pienaar and Fernandes in summer plus a defensive addition would suit me.

Sky just confirmed RUMOUR that Anthony Gardner in and Da Silva out likely to happen and be only EFC deals.

jason cooke
20 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:49:35

it has just been on SKY SPORTS that Anthony Gardner is possibly coming on loan. That I don’t agree with

Anders
21 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:50:52

Looks like anthony gardner is on his way from tottenham on loan.

Tony Part
22 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:55:41

Anthony Gardner is having a medical at Everton now I can confirm.

Dan McKie
23 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:58:04

Gardner would be decent cover till the end of the season, he even managed a goal against us at shite hart lane!

Mark Pendleton
24 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:58:23

Is Gardner a north-west lad? I know he started at Port Vale.

Joey Dela
25 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:56:24

Anthony Gardener may join EFC on loan just been on SSN also ADS may join Barnsley on a permanant move?????

Player profile -

http://www.carling.com/football/tottenham-hotspur-fc/anthony-gardner.html

Charlie Skinley
26 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:53:32

Jason - thats my point where is it coming from, thats why I have concerns about letting Stubbs go without a replacement. I have no worries about the lads in place and playing, its just that I am concerned if things go a bit wrong. An you have no worries about me supporting Moyes and the lads... despite me being conerned with letting Stubbs go I am a huge Moyes fan.... in Moyes we trust!

jason cooke
27 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:59:36

yes GARDNER scored against us but LESCOTT made him look a muppet when he scored BIG mistake i think

kieran fitzgerald
28 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:01:31

just checked Gardner’s profile. Fella’s missed alot of games through injury during his time at Spurs That would make me wary of signing him.

jason cooke
29 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:01:16

Charlie if Moyes wasn’t so cautious and we played more attacking football all of the time we don’t need more defenders. HA HA

Mark Pendleton
30 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:02:20

It’s younger cover and perhaps the sort of move the lad needs to get his career up and running. If Nuno is out and Baines needs an op then we have to move Joleon to let back and need another centre half. He’s been unlucky with injuries in the past.

It’s not the most exciting move in the world but in our halcyon days in the 80’s we had numerous similar players in and around the first team squad to support it.

Mark Pendleton
31 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:05:25

Terrible pun on the official EFC website announcing the Gardner deal.

Charlie Skinley
32 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:05:58

Ermmm Jason, just look how many goals we have scored and games won compared to most outside the top 3. Attacking football, what do you want?? ha

vinbleu
33 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:07:17

Just confirmed on sky that Anthony Gardner has signed from Spurs

Jay Wilson
34 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:03:36

This whole thread has been about the folly of letting Stubbs go without cover. Now we look like we might get some cover the cover isn’t good enough...He’ll be on loan and 4th choice what do you want!?!? Good god you lot infuriate me.

Ashley W
35 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:08:38

Anthony Gardner is from stafford originally as my mate went to school with him

Amanda
36 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:08:46

We can only have 2 domestic loans.
Obviously Peanut, Manny and Tommy don’t count.

Room for 1 more Brit then!

Charlie Skinley
37 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:08:03

Anyway, at least it is cover if we get suspensions or injuries... although I was hoping to get Ronaldo on loan from Utd. Oh well, shit happens! ha. More interesting than the last transfer windows any guys?

Davey Roskin
38 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:10:22

Gardner’s hardly an exciting signing, but I will definitely take it as cover. Plus, given our somewhat reliance on set pieces, it might come in handy to have a 6’5" lad from time to time.

Mark Pendleton
39 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:09:32

Just a thought to throw in during this thread - as Moyes himself stated recently (and to our relief) that Neville playing in midfield was out of position and that he prefers him at right back then why is he listed as a midfielder in the squad profiles on the official web site?

Charlie Skinley
40 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:11:57

Jay, your the time that would be on here moaning if we got injuries an had no cover.... so get over it kid! ha. We just all like to have a play at being manager mate!

Mark Pendleton
41 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:16:22

Charlie, isn’t Jay SUPPORTING the move?

Stu green
42 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:17:40

physioroom.com says; A Gardner Sprained Ankle 27th Jan 08 very doubtful. Bit of a suprise considering our medicals !

Mike Newhouse
43 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:17:11

CRIKEY! Anthony Gardner just signed on the official site too! not bad cover for the boys we already have!

James Elworthy
44 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:18:14

Is Gardner UEFA cup tied

steve ferns
45 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:15:51

Mark, maybe Moyes isn’t responsilbe for updating the website or checking its content. I know we are skint, but surely, that is not part of his job description, but it would explain the shoddy service.

Dutch Schaffaer
46 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:10:52

Moyes cannot win. He gets slagged off for letting Stubbs leave without cover even though its now revealed he had cover lined up all along.

Now that we have cover in Gardner, Moyes is slagged off because the player is not good enough. And we haven’t even watched him kick a ball yet.

Stubbs was 37 and past his best. Gardner is a decade younger and at 6ft 5" has some much needed height. He’s also played for England (something Stubbs never acheived in his career). Give the guy a chance.

Its unlikely he’ll see much football anyway because he’ll be behind Yobo, Lescott and Jagielka. Surely Gardner is good enough to sit on our bench?

Art Greeth
47 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:17:39

Anthony Gardner 1 v Alan Stubbs 0

...

England caps, that is.

steve ferns
48 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:20:14

We’re getting a (former) England International, who’s still only 27, on loan till the end of the season, so we can examine his knee at close quarters. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Graeme Winter
49 Posted 31/01/2008 at 18:55:14

Why, why, why. Why has Faddy gone to Birmingham and Stubbsy gone to Derby plus other fringe players out on loan we need players at this important stage in the season I am totally bemused by Moyes! Why didn't you apply for the Scotland job.

Alex Mc loyyd
50 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:21:13

It is defo that Andy Gardner has joined till the end of the season on Loan( on Spurs website)... Very likely that Sidwell is on the way also

Mike Cow
51 Posted 31/01/2008 at 21:52:58

Ive seen a few things like moyes may have to get someone in the last minute etc because of stubbs leaving.. However Stubbs was in the village hotel whiston on monday with an agent (wudnt hav thought at that time he was leaving) which means moyes would have known 3 and a half days ago something was happening, with around 2 hours left its probably safe to say he isnt interested in gettin any one n as hes had days to line someone up.

Charlie Skinley
52 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:21:51

Dutch - I agree with you there mate, I was concerned with Moyes letting go of Stubbs without getting any cover in. But I should of known our Davie had it sorted. Overall a good piece of business

Mark Pendleton
53 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:26:19

I think the squad is still looking the best it has for many years. Top class keeper, 2 solid right backs and left backs. Now 4 top quality centre backs. In my opinion 6 top quality midfielders and 4 top quality strikers.

Stu green
54 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:29:20

De Silva gone ! 2228: Championship side Barnsley have swooped in a big way, wrapping up the permanent signing of 24-year-old Brazilian midfielder Anderson de Silva from Everton and also taking defender Lewin Nyatanga, 19, on loan until the end of the season with a view to a permanent move.

Gavin Ramejkis
55 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:29:14

I cant see the problem with Gardner as loan cover, he looked decent before his injuries and you need to work out if he was rushed back too early or didnt have the injuries treated properly - you cant lose with this one

Tom Corker
56 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:29:45

Just read on the BBC website:

"2228: Championship side Barnsley have swooped in a big way, wrapping up the permanent signing of 24-year-old Brazilian midfielder Anderson de Silva from Everton and also taking defender Lewin Nyatanga, 19, on loan until the end of the season with a view to a permanent move."

Mark Pendleton
57 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:29:15

BBC reporting de Silva has indeed now signed on a permanent deal for Barnsley.

Mark Pendleton
58 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:31:05

**WARNING**

Everton Football Club in danger of having young, top quality SQUAD with NO deadwood!!! (Apart from AvdM)!

P.S. How much of a twat does Defoe sound?

Ben Brown
59 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:32:06

Woooaaah, wooooooooaaaaaaah, steady, steady there...whoooooooaaaaaah, RUMOURS YEH!

Isn’t the transfer window great?!

Tom Carter
60 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:32:15

Noooooooo not another one out the door, Da silva gone.

Jason Broome
61 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:22:11

Do you know how long Spurs have been trying to offload this crap idiot. My brother & his mates are Spurs fans & they are laughing their arses off.

I would rather we had loaned Bramble!

Gardner is THE worst CD in the Premiership, prone to schoolboy errors, cannot header (although he is 6’5) & just might be the poison pill that that knocks us out of the top 6!

Spurs have been trying to offload this wet packet of shite to the Championship!

If you don’t believe me.. go to the Spurs chat forum and in between their laughter, read the comments.

Moyes... I love what you have done, but Gardner... you mug!

Mark Pendleton
62 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:41:38

I think the move for de Silva went through pretty much out of goodwill in the end after the move took so long in the first place. It’s not like it really cost us much really though. Good luck to him!

Oh and Jason, Spurs fans will say those things about a player leaving. Borrusia Dortmund fans seemingly wanted rid of Pienaar. Need i say more?

Ray Robinson
63 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:42:15

Jason, not denying that Gardner may not be up to much (although I can’t say) but he can’t be worse than the 2 that play for Derby. Claude Davies and Darren Moore - now there’s a pair of useless centre-backs!

Gavin Ramejkis
64 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:42:01

Jason B you need to chill out, Gardner is cover only and what would you rather have cover or nothing but kids or players out of position?

Tony Williams
65 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:41:40

Jason are you having a laugh or what? he is the fourth choice centre half, there only for emergencies, that is it. He is replacing a fella a decade older than him and who hasn’t played in the league for months.

Yobo is back in a week or two so how the fook is signing an emergency defender going to knock us down below 6th place?

Dutch Schaffaer
66 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:41:27

Jason Broome - Gardner is going to sit on the bench for his loan spell. No way is he going to replace Yobo, Lescott or Jagielka.

When Stubbs left Moyes needed a back-up central defender and Gardner should be good enough for that role. Surely Gardner is good enough to sit on the bench in place of a 37-year-old?

Pretty soon Yobo will return and then Jagielka can sit on the bench while Gardner goes into the reserves.

Gardner is just an insurance policy incase of an emergency. I doubt he’ll ever play for Everton.

Steve Templeton
67 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:47:34

Jason, Sunderland fans laughed when we signed Kilbane and so did Boro fans when we bought Yakubu and they haven’t done too badly for us have they?

I’m happy to trust Moyes on this one.

Viv Sharma
68 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:45:15

Stop moaning about Gardner.
Obviously talented, played for england, been around a while. Moyes has a knack of making a decent player out of other peoples rejects! The Yak was a bored oaf a few months ago and look at him now!
PLUS, ledgend though Stubbs is, my mum could run in behind him these days.
We don’t have to play him in place of Lescott or anything! Just decent cover.
Good call DM
6"5 reject for

Martin Beesley
69 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:41:36

Riquelme? give him half hour on the ball and he will pick out a pass,otherwise...??? you are joking the guy is class, best free kick taker in the world and he will also never sign for us worse luck! Gardner has been poor for Spurs this season, i won’t be confident if we are forced to play him.. Still its only Blackburn and possibly Reading and fingers crossed Yobo & the Yak will return

Stuart Mitchell
70 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:49:54

Hey I just saw the league table again and laughed at Spurs low position!!

Art Greeth
71 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:48:52

... does anyone seriously think that Gardner is going to leapfrog ahead of Joleon, Phil and Joseph to cement a place in the centre of our defence...?

Jason Broome maybe... "Gardner just might be the poison pill that that knocks us out of the top 6!"

Brilliant! There must be a tabloid out there screaming out for your type of hysteria, la’...

Mark Pendleton
72 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:53:59

Almost confirmation on Sky that EFC have now left the building!

Steve Beahan
73 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:00:47

Can?t quite understand this Gardner deal. Seems adequate cover but no more. Maybe thats the point?

Tony Williams
74 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:03:40

Sheff Blue, I think that it is exactly that, a straight replacement for Stubbs, in that he was the emergency replacement behind all the other centre halves

Joe Milner
75 Posted 31/01/2008 at 22:48:10

Moyes the window maestro. Da Silva and Stubbs out, Fernandez and Gardener in. Davey boy, you are showing signs of real class. Don't get me wrong, I love Stubbsy and wish him well, but Gardener is 10 years younger and 6ft 4ins. Remember seeing him play at Goodison a year or so ago and thinking we are never going to get past this guy even if we play till the lights go out. He has been injury prone, but can't believe DM has signed him if this is still a problem. Da Silva out, Manny in. No comment needed.

Lyndon Lloyd
Editorial Team
76 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:09:22

McFadden gone. Pienaar injured. Gravesen injured. Osman injured. Cahill injured and expected for international duty with the Socceroos... I think if Moyes were the "window maestro" he’d have made sure that we had at least one more top class option in midfield before the deadline.

Maybe he didn’t have the cash but I still think we’re worryingly short in the area of the pitch that matters. Just pray no one else gets injured or suspended in midfield...

Dutch Schaffaer
77 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:06:47

Don’t forget Gosling. A very highly rated youngster also signed.

Out: McFadden, Da Silva & Stubbs.

In: Fernandes, Gardner & Gosling.

I would say the squad is improved. Well done Moyes.

Rob Heaton
78 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:07:47

Sky have confirmed everton have deffo left the building so who things we’re guaranteed another signing now ;)

Gardener as cover suits our situation, as others have said yobo’s back in two weeks ffs so the only chance of him getting a game is for the next two matches

Rupert Coghlan
79 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:02:28

Steve Behan, you hit the nail on the head, not much to read into or understand. He will be a cover centre half and if he is any good then maybe he will be worth signing.

If not , then at least we have another body - 2 of our subs from Weds have now moved on so we need any players we can get! We got Gardner, who is good cover, and as much as I love Stubbsy, I believe Gardner is better cover.

Kieran Fitzgerald
80 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:10:43

Loan deals are made for the reason we signed Gardner. We have a small squad. For now we need the cover. If between now and the summer Gardner proves himself, both in terms of talent and fitness, we sign him and he?s already bedded in. Both Pienaar and Graveson have proved this over the season so far.

Steve Brolin
81 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:20:47

Here?s another one coming: Steve Sidwell about to sign. He?s having medical now....

Brian Waring
82 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:07:24

Look lads, some might think Gardener is decent cover at the back. But, this lad is Spurs’ Hibbert (who I think is a solid defender ) who get’s slated everytime he plays, because, and to quote a spurs fan I bevvy with now and again down here " he is a fucking yard dog ". I had to laugh when I heard he had come in on loan, because I can picture the lads face next time I see him, and the words, youv’e signed a fucking yard dog.

Art Greeth
83 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:13:39

Lyndon, Moyes has done pretty much what he said at the start of the transfer window and what he does pretty much EVERY January transfer window... keeps his hands in his pockets.

People call that ’Dithering’. I think the man has nerves of steel, not to flinch, not to panic, and buy in overpriced players at this time of the season.

McFadden gone? Plenty of cover in the forwards who he was largely behind in the pecking order anyway. Pienaar injured? Only a knock picked up in training, according to all accounts - he was on the bench against Senegal tonight. Gravesen injured? Hasn’t he been all season, or just peripheral anyway? Osman injured? He’s been missing for more than a month, and we’ve coped all right. Granted, his return to full fitness will be welcome. Cahill injured? (maybe suspended, and only for the Spurs game) but off on on international duty as is his and the Socceroos right.

I think Moyes is spot on NOT to make unnecessary signings as a contingency for the African Nations tournament... another week and that will be done and dusted and the squad will be back to full strength... and we’ll still be in fourth, Inshallah.

Steve Brolin
84 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:23:34

No doubt about it: Gardner is pants. I remember seeing one of his first games for Spurs and he had the touch of a rhino and everytime he had the ball there were looks of panic on his fellow CBs....reckon he could just about warm the bench for the reserves.

Paraic McCague
85 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:21:20

I believe that Johann Vogel is a free agent and therefore could be signed outside the transfer window?

Amanda Huddleston
86 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:24:33

I reckon Moyes only want Sidwell so he will no longer be a minority Ginger!

We have 3 baldies
2 Corn rows
Few dodgy hairbanders
Lots of crew cuts
But no ginge!

I am just thinking of a well balanced squad photo!

Amanda
87 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:31:24

What is Vogels hair like?!

Ben Brown
88 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:34:08

Kinda floppy dark blonde. Not that I memorise footballers’ hairstyles or anything.

Jason Broome
89 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:26:42

I have been reluctantly watching this kid play for the last three years (brothers & mates are Spurs fans? what can I say?). He is crap.

Whether or not he will warm our bench, be an insurance policy, play for the reserves or become Arteta?s FLUFFER he will still be crap.

I love Moyes. I think nobody could have done what he has done (and many have tried) but on ?lead-foot?? he got it wrong. I hope I never see him play for us EVER.

Brace yourself. If you think Hibbert gets a raw deal?. Watch this space!

Gavin Ramejkis
90 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:47:19

Must do its the same every window........

Ben Brown
91 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:47:22

I have a mental image of a lemming watching Sky Sports News now Gavin. Thanks for that.

Tony Williams
92 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:51:48

Jason, the thing is that it is very unlikely he will ever play for us, the same went with Stubbs, he will only come in if their is an injury crisis or a red card disaster.

rob heaton
93 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:58:00

Well thats it. Just looking forward to the ANC players coming home now

Gavin Ramejkis
94 Posted 31/01/2008 at 23:50:44

Funny for this evening but it has gone now was the Wikipedia entry for Quaresma saying he had signed for the RS - ha ha ha ha ha ha

Jason Lam
95 Posted 01/02/2008 at 02:21:03

Me mate’s a Spurs fan and thinks Gardner is good player. Their manager’s Spanish so probably Gardner’s too tall for their type of football. Anyway the conversation quickly dissolved into thank fuck Defoe left for Pompey, the guy had no vision just shoots from impossible angles...

Doubt Gardner would get a game for us anyway.

Kevin West
96 Posted 01/02/2008 at 06:48:43

Gardner is cup tied for the Uefa Cup, having already played for Spurs. No wonder the official site was offering the chance for a fan to sit on the bench for the SK Brann game, they will probably have to make up one of the 7 substitutes!

We now have 4 loan players. Gravesen and Gardner are just squad fillers and won’t stay past the summer. Fernandes will probably prove too expensive to sign. Hopefully the Pienaar deal will go through without any hitches. That would leave us 3 bodies down straight away. Should be an interesting summer for the blues fans. Lets hope that the lure of Champions League football will be on offer so BK can loosen those purse strings!

Nick Entwistle
97 Posted 01/02/2008 at 08:57:27

99th Post...

Nick Entwistle
98 Posted 01/02/2008 at 08:58:14

100th Post! Yes, I Rule!

Allan Hobbs
99 Posted 01/02/2008 at 09:01:43

Nick you’re my hero ; )

Gardner on loan is a good signing I reckon - DM knows how to mould defenders into top class players; just look at Lescott and to a degree Jagielka. We need 4 centre halves and with Yobo back in the not too distant future (heres hoping Nigeria lose at the weekend!) we’ll have decent cover at the back in all positions. Gardner cant play in Europe so he’ll fill in nicely when/if we come back from Europe with tired players.

IMHO I reckon DM is very much copying Alex Fergusons ideas at Utd - the squad he’s building shows lots of similarities with Utd’s - the policy is the same even if the money isn’t and therefore perhaps the quality isn’t either, but the design is the same and fair play to him.

Steve Ferns
100 Posted 01/02/2008 at 09:45:18

How’s our squad the same as united’s? Where’s our Ronaldo, Rooney, Gigs or Scholes?

Patty Beesley
101 Posted 01/02/2008 at 09:49:49

You guys get me!! So Stubbs and McFadden have gone. All a great majority of you ever did was moan that Stubbs can?t cut it now because he is too slow and McFadden got booed constantly and was slagged off as being useless. Sometimes think Everton can?t win.

Dave Lawley
102 Posted 01/02/2008 at 10:52:37

Don?t talk daft Patty, I saw Everton win but weeks ago, against Wigan.

James Elworthy
103 Posted 01/02/2008 at 11:39:49

Antony Gardner is not a bad centre half I can recall him having some good games against us and he had big Dunc in his pocket one night.
He needs confidence have a run injury free and a change of club and environment.
Stubbs is 36 and past it.
Da Silva never played except for a couple of minutes so obviously Moyes thinks he is not good enough.
McFadden is an enigma and from what I have seen is going to frustrate Brummie fans too.
We do need at least 2 more midfielders as we are too lightweight both in numbers and in player stature in that dept.
I am disappointed we couldn?t get hold of at least one.

Ben Wilson
104 Posted 01/02/2008 at 11:50:37

well its come and gone and for everyone moaning about moyes not bringing in centre half cover between 11 and 12 last night.....Patience....Gardener on loan...Great signing, massive presence and when fit which he is at the moment he is a player. In moyes we trust.

Gosling, Fernandes, Gardener in. McFadden, De Silva, Stubbs out. I’ll take that.

James Elworthy
105 Posted 01/02/2008 at 12:17:59

We appear to have at least 2 for every position except in Midfield

1) Four goalies
2) Four fullbacks
3) Four Centre backs
4) Four strikers
5) Midfield not including Neville, Jagielka or Baines
Arteta
Cahill
Osman
Pienaar
Fernandes
Gravesen
Carsley
Which leaves only 7 midfielders and in Gravesen we don?t really have one so in reality we have 6 plus him and the defenders mentioned above who are makeshift midfielders.
To challenge for a top 4 place we really needed to bring in a quality midfielder whether it be Sidwell, Downing, Arshavin or whoever.

Steve Ferns
106 Posted 01/02/2008 at 13:20:12

I’m still laughing over Man City and Portsmouth. I really do hope they cocked that deal up. Portsmouth will then have a player who they rejected, who will surely damage their team spirit, as well as being much further into debt £7m apparently and the interest may prevent them from doing anything in the summer in the market.

As for City, they’ve now got Vassell, Mpenza, some Ecuadorian, and Mancini’s kid to choose from up front. That’s them gone fromt he race for fourth!

Dave Jeanrenaud
107 Posted 01/02/2008 at 13:36:15

They have also got young Daniel Sturridge Steve and he looks shit hot.

They will drop away though as they are not good enough.

Michael Hunt
108 Posted 01/02/2008 at 13:48:27

Lets not worry about other teams and just focus on the blue boys getting the maximum from each game possible and bagging Champions League place for next season. COYB!

Ant Mill
109 Posted 01/02/2008 at 15:58:44

Wots all that nonsense your writing about Riqueleme? He joined Boca Juniors at the beginning of January from Villareal, so he was never goin to move here after bein ther for just a few weeks was he? Best playmaker in the world tho...nevermind!

Allan Hobbs
110 Posted 02/02/2008 at 09:53:37

Steve Ferns - I didnt say our squad was THE SAME as Utd’s, I said it was being built in a similar manner. Go to the Guardian website and read the article from David Moyes - even he mentions the model put in place by Utd & Arsenal.

You’ve missed my point entirely.