"At a meeting in London on Thursday, all 20 clubs agreed to explore a proposal to extend the season to 39 games.
Those 10 extra games would be played at venues around the world, with cities bidding for the right to stage them. It is understood the additional fixtures could be determined by a draw but that the top-five teams could be seeded to avoid playing each other."
WTF, even if this did happen and as stated the points would go towards the league, then why have a seeding system so the top five dont meet each other? Utter greed.
This is the day I pack in and find something else to do of a saturday? Does anyone else think this stinks to high heaven?
Alan Codd, Posted 07/02/2008 at 13:05:39
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1 Posted 07/02/2008 at 14:15:50
2 Posted 07/02/2008 at 16:38:26
Quite what it has to offer the `ordinary speccy` isn`t spelt out but WTF is it to do with us, anyway?
3 Posted 07/02/2008 at 17:41:29
4 Posted 07/02/2008 at 18:44:23
5 Posted 07/02/2008 at 18:44:35
This is ludicrous and would make a mockery of the league.
6 Posted 07/02/2008 at 18:44:20
7 Posted 07/02/2008 at 18:47:51
This idea is a bag of shite. The opening game of the season? The last? Where in between? First 5 seeded - why not fist 10? From last season’s table or - when? - Feb 1st .... etc. A fucking mockery.
8 Posted 07/02/2008 at 18:49:25
Its just for money nothing else.
They are looking to achieve 10% more revenue with this farce.
My maths tell me based on Everton profit to sales/sponsorship revenue it would be worth about 500k tops.
This will pay about one third of a top flight players salary.
Therefore gone in one foul swoop if you make the squad any bigger.
even if it was revenue straight to the bottom line which it never is it might make us 3 million.
Two players wages. thats after you have found the money to buy them.
Does not stack up for me.
9 Posted 07/02/2008 at 19:03:56
Blackburn v Charlton in Beijing.
Crystal palace v Reading in New York.
They will be flocking in their thousands wont they.
These lot cant even bring 3,000 to an away game here.
10 Posted 07/02/2008 at 19:15:27
11 Posted 07/02/2008 at 19:04:09
Can I make the point straight away that I mean no offence to Lee when I make this comment, so Lyndon or Michael can you just make sure I don’t stray off track.
Sorry Lee , you could be the biggest Evertonian I’ve ever meet but I still wouldn’t want Everton coming over to the USA just to simply suit your viewing needs.
You made a choice when you moved to the USA I’m sure, that you would still support Everton (like any true Evertonian) but you would sacrifice going to live games for a new life abroad.
It’s a very weak argument to say it’s another method of competing by going abroad but you’ve shot yourself in the foot. If the Big 4 (hate that term) go abroad .. surely they will get richer and the gap won’t be closed but at the most maintained?
It’s a huge farce that this proposal has been considered by the money-grabbing chairman of the Premier League Clubs.
Tell me why the likes of Middlesbrough and Portsmouth think they will attract a big crowd when they play against each other in a foreign country? The answer is they won’t! It’s shocking that these kinds of chairman are so blinkered in their views that they will listen to these proposals when they should know full well it could spell the end for their clubs.
Fans abroad in these countries will want to watch a Big 4 team play someone. It could be Everton, Newcastle, Sunderland etc. Makes no difference to them.
I know it sounds like doom-mongering but it will be true. If we have 1 match abroad what will stop them having anymore? There won’t be!
This is a fairly abstract comparision but it was once said about Nazi Germany that "you only had to watch Himmler (2nd in command) to know what Hitler is thinking".
Over here, you only have to watch the NFL to know the Premier League is thinking. If the NFL can get more matches abroad then we know damn well the Premier League will too!
I feel angered by Lee’s comments when I try to put the situation in context.
We have Evertonians living in the city of Liverpool who can’t afford to go to the match once every month, let alone weekly.
With ticket prices on the increase that will decrease.
Why, if a fan here can’t afford to go to a match do the club ignore them? Why do fans abroad deserve to have Everton football club waiting on them hand and foot when back in England and in the city Everton are treating its homegrown fans like throwaway luxuries.
We won’t sit around forever and let this happen. Can’t they see this? Football wasn’t created to made a business out of, and the leaders of the clubs still underestimate the power the fans hold.
Yes, I know that directly the club don’t rely on us, as in ticket revenue, anymore due to the TV money but indirectly we are still in control of our clubs. We are shareholders, we actually fill the stadium so the players have someone actually watching them.
And most importantly, we have the power to say where the club puts it stadium- look at Kirkby and how we are being hounded out of their by the residents of the town where there lives many Evertonians!
It might sound like a brilliant dream, but surely the time will come soon enough where fans will regain control of their clubs.
The whole bubble will burst about the global appeal of the Premier League, the rich businessmen will scarper and we will be left to care for our baby.
If this does happen it will just mean the clubs are setting themselves up a fall that they cannot imagine, just to get a bit more of the green stuff and appease the fans like Lee who live abroad.
The clubs have already sold their souls to the devil, just whether they decide to start dancing to the tune he plays in 2010/11.
12 Posted 07/02/2008 at 19:37:11
13 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:16:59
14 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:19:19
15 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:21:40
16 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:22:15
17 Posted 07/02/2008 at 17:20:46
Whilst watching that other sport called football at Wembly the honorable gents that run the Premier league football clubs have obviously had a significant brainwave and decided the best way to line their filthy pockets is to start playing football in far flung places.
Anyway, what for Everton in this new climate! Expect trips to Bangkok, LA and Glasgow to watch (unfathomably) our beloved blues play the likes of Man U, RS, Villa and/or Birmingham, Sunderland, Fulham and/or Bristol City, Stoke, Wolves, or Swansea — it all depends which of those glamourous teams makes it up to the Prem in three years!
Anyway, after you've all sighed a big sigh and resigned yourself to the fact that the money men will stop at nothing to shaft the game for every penny, how about a little fun? Anyone have any suggestions as to where they'd like to see Everton play and use it as an excuse to get away for a week or two!
18 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:37:32
19 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:41:47
I don't want to be watching Everton on TV being supported by a load of people in wherever who don't have a clue about our club. I can't see the players enjoying it either ? where's the support going to come from?
This is just so blatant an example of putting money before the fans; they're not even trying to hide it:
"Some fans may feel aggrieved, but their concerns will be outweighed in the eyes of the clubs by the financial advantages." (From the BBC Website).
Damn the fucking Man!
20 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:54:13
friendlies anywhere on the planet are a good idea, playing some game to make some rich fat bastards richer no thanks.
21 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:57:56
Richard Scudamore made an extraordinary admission yesterday. ’There are,’ said the Premier League chief executive in trying to defend this highly controversial proposal for an international round of matches, ’other more ridiculous things we could have done’. It was extraordinary for two reasons. Firstly, because Scudamore admits that the idea of asking Manchester United to add a 39th league fixture to their season and then telling them to play it in Australia is indeed ridiculous. And secondly because he revealed the Premier League’s capacity for doing something even more extreme. Quite what could be ’more ridiculous’ than 10 extra matches that destroy the integrity of the world’s most popular league is beyond the comprehension of most football followers. But these guys are well paid for coming up with imaginative marketing strategies and they obviously had even more radical plans in mind.
For the most part, they have proved pretty damn good at promoting the Premier League brand and generating income for their member clubs. Scudamore, the Carlos Tevez affair aside, has long been considered one of the finest football administrators in the game.
On this occasion, however, he and his colleagues, as well as the 20 Premier League chairmen and chief executives who voted unanimously in favour of the proposal yesterday, have made a seriously bad call.
The English football community is now divided between a minority who are evidently driven by greed and the majority who are utterly appalled by an idea that should be dismissed, as it was by Gareth Southgate, as an early April Fool’s joke and then forgotten in a hurry.
Fans, understandably, do not welcome being told that they will soon have to fly to the Far East or even further to watch their team play Birmingham City in a league match. ’It’s an opportunity to travel!’ cried Scudamore, which is fine if you’re loaded.
But the objections go way beyond that. They go to the very heart of what the competition is supposed to be about. The chairmen might be in favour of the proposal but imagine Arsene Wenger’s reaction when ’the draw’ is made.
Imagine how he will feel at the start of a new season when he realises that, while his Arsenal side will have to meet Chelsea three times, Manchester United are heading for Tokyo for an extra encounter with Derby County.
Imagine if, when the season has been concluded, Arsenal lose the title race by one or two points.
For that reason alone, the ’international round’ has to be filed away with those plans for a European Super League and then sent to the shredder.
The league works as a competition because it is fair. Because everyone plays each other home and away and the team with the most points wins.
Trouble is, the people who are behind this are the same people who now own a number of our leading football clubs and they don’t seem too bothered about such detail.
They are in it for the money, and overseas televisions rights and the globalisation of the game is what excites them most.
While all 20 chairmen and chief executives agreed to the proposal in London yesterday, the foreign owners are driving this one on.
It is, of course, why they are here. Why Tom Hicks and George Gillett bought Liverpool and why they have no interest in selling to a group of businessmen in Dubai for a £50million profit.
If they sit tight and push for what they consider to be progress, they can make a real killing.
Hicks said as much in an interview with Sportsmail back in August. ’The Premier League has the best growth opportunities in global terms in sport,’ he said.
Indeed it does, and Scudamore would not be doing his job properly if he did not take note of the NFL’s recent appearance at Wembley and identify ways of keeping the Premier League one step ahead of Italy’s Serie A and Spain’s La Liga.
But it all smacks of hypocrisy when Sven Goran Eriksson had to battle so hard to secure that four week break prior to the last World Cup.
When they continue to claim that they care about the England team and England’s already over-played footballers as well as the domestic cup competitions.
The Carling Cup - with its semi-finals in January - looks like being the first victim.
Incredibly, the Football Association said they supported the proposal yesterday but then maybe they are smarter than we think. After all, let this through and never again will the clubs be able to complain about international friendlies.
But before they do, and sanction this proposal as the governing body and guardians of the game, they should ask the managers, the players and, more importantly, the fans what they think.
22 Posted 07/02/2008 at 20:59:42
23 Posted 07/02/2008 at 21:07:35
I wonder what UEFA will make of this? Surely other leagues will not be happy about this? Could UEFA or FIFA stop this even if they wanted to? No wonder they abolished the G14. The premiership fat cat?s obviously realised they could make more money without the other European clubs.
24 Posted 07/02/2008 at 21:21:05
Every time we walk in the city, mathew street albert dock GOODISON we feel very much at home it’s all about a life style that comes with to be an evertonian, so i cannot understand Who’s come up with the idea to play an everton match in holland for example !!!.
25 Posted 07/02/2008 at 21:16:44
26 Posted 07/02/2008 at 21:21:58
27 Posted 07/02/2008 at 21:50:35
28 Posted 07/02/2008 at 21:57:57
29 Posted 07/02/2008 at 22:32:56
I thimk the only reason why all the sheep...I mean chairmen of the clubs are saying it is an "interesting concept" is because they don’t want to be seen as troublemakers and end up with the cold balls when the "draw" is made.
Please explain tome how this will be fair? There are 38 games 19 teams home and away so how in the name of all that is Holy can this be a fair decision, I mean they are even already talking about a fucking seeding aspect.....so therefore the league is no longer on a level footing but aimed towards the teams doing well when the games are supposed to be played.
It is a fucking disgrace and I am going to have to stop now, as I can imagine that the rest of my writings would be littered with expletives.
Corrupt, greedy horrible c*nts
30 Posted 07/02/2008 at 22:19:22
31 Posted 07/02/2008 at 22:48:08
32 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:08:04
33 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:11:39
34 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:07:31
As the 39th game counts toward the league i.e. 3 points toward the championship then it will, once again in my opinion, favour the "Sky 4" as they cannot play each other.
I cannot see what Reading, Wigan Derby (no disrespect) would get out of it. what if they avoid relegation by a point after 38 games only to play a seeded team, get beat and go down.
I think the idea is crap and only serves the greedy executives at the likes of the Premier league and SKY TV Mind you the 20 clubs have agreed to explore it, so what do I know?
35 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:48:41
I cannot begin to decribe the dismay I am feeling right now. Keith ’fat scot’ Wyness’s (sorry to get personal, but I’m bleeding here) comments about EFC supporting this stupid, half baked idea, has just killed any faith I had left in our board.
No. This is no longer about the fan, but about the money.
Just one point of interest; without the fans, thier is no football club. One cannot exist without the other. So why are those at the top so intent on pushing us away?
36 Posted 08/02/2008 at 02:27:24
I’ll feel sad but if this happens I will not set foot in a footie ground again. I often feel like we’re being screwed now, do they really have to rub salt into that wound
37 Posted 08/02/2008 at 04:01:10
I reckon they are going to do that stupid system where the top 4 go into a playoff at the end of the season and play a knockout for the title, same as the Ruggers.
38 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:59:40
If this goes through I’d quite happily see Everton apply for the Championship...
39 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:33:05
As someone else has said, how is it fair that relegation-threatend teams may have to play the Arse whilst those around them play each other?
This is yet another example of protecting the "Big 4" - seeding almost guarantteeing them an extra 3 points thank you very much!
Play exhibition matches if you must, but don’t destroy our league.
What’s next - pimping the players’ wives would probably bring in a few quid.
40 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:22:34
41 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:11:01
Sorry for the outburst but the problem is media and peer pressure from the sky/big 3 bastards and no other club wanting to be left behind. Whats makesit even worse is that all the power for change is in the hands of the fans...
The astonishingly simple but impossible solution would be for all fans of football teams across the land to simply ABANDON GAMES for up to one year, this would force every chairman to give up the reins and allow the fans of every club to own their clubs outright FOR FREE!
Then we can return to proper english football played by proper players with no bias or media control, as I said a simple but impossible solution as no fans want to be left behind either.
The whole thing reminds me of Kirkby and the arguments for and against (ha you knew it would come in somewhere!), while some people see the promised extra 10m a year and are saying ’we dont want to get left behind’, others can see that where its all heading is a pile of shite anyway, and being ’left behind’ is tantamount to retaining the principles the game was based upon.
I know it’ll be the last straw for me, anyone who supports this can just fuck right off!
42 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:04:48
"Let’s go and visit the poor people and find new ways of ripping them off" they suggest, at the same time they can avoid the January cold.
Hold on isn’t January the time for the F.A. Cup, the semis of the Carling Cup, and the transfer window? All of which are controlled and run by the F.A.?
Surely the Premiership wouldn’t try to railroad something that the F.A. shouldn’t want, but are powerless to stop, the fans don’t want but will not be considered, would they??
Let’s ALL hope that FIFA tell them where to get off for encroaching into countries that already have their own national leagues.
Money talks so I’m not expecting anything from this "exploration of the proposal" other than a big OK rubber stamp and a stampede for the duty free shop...
ONLY FIFA CAN STOP THIS !!!
43 Posted 08/02/2008 at 16:33:06
44 Posted 08/02/2008 at 17:38:07
45 Posted 15/02/2008 at 17:51:56