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Is it the end for the Yak?
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It didn't take Yakubu long to revert to type, did it? A player renowned for wanting a move every twelve months or so — and well versed in getting one — goes AWOL virtually the first time he's let out on his own.
Those of us who study these things always thought he would be doing a Lineker on us and refrained from heaping praise when his goal tally fell just below the £1Million apiece mark a short while ago.
With his next club no doubt already lined up, I guess we can now look forward to the "second half syndrome" that another correspondent referred to yesterday. Sad that such a talent is such a short-sighted, easily misled individual but there's plenty of his kind in this sick old game these days! I wonder who is the next one we'll attract?
Kieran Donnelly, Posted 07/02/2008 at 23:00:04
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Keith Glazzard
2 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:01:06
2 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:01:06
Is this the Daily Mail bag?
steve ferns
3 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:08:55
3 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:08:55
We should know more by tomorrow.
There has to be more to this, let’s not start putting two and two together, just yet.
There has to be more to this, let’s not start putting two and two together, just yet.
Rob Paterson
4 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:02:31
4 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:02:31
That’s the spirit of the Grand Old Team. Before the allegation is even made out, before the guy has had a moment to explain what has happened, he is condemned as ’having reverted to type’ by those ’of us who study these things’ and already he is on his way. Perhaps he was just pissed off that his country had been knocked out and needed an extra day. Let’s not rush to hysterical judgments just yet. And if the time comes to deal with the Yak, then we shoud all be grateful that it will be Moyes who deals with that rather than ’those of us who study these things’. For all our akes let’s just hope that ’those of us who study these things’ never get asked to do jury service !
Andy Callaghan
5 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:23:21
5 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:23:21
Hahaha, ahhh the Daily Mail..
They sure do love their "could"s don’t they. And what a ridiculous response from you, Kieran. Rob’s exactly right.
They sure do love their "could"s don’t they. And what a ridiculous response from you, Kieran. Rob’s exactly right.
Seamus Murphy
6 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:32:28
6 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:32:28
Knee....jerk
Mike Dillon
7 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:28:40
7 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:28:40
Has this been reported anywhere else, at all?
How do we know that it’s not just the Daily Mail talking bollocks? We all know most tabloids like to, for lack of a better phrase, "Chat shit" if they think it could be worth a few column inches, especially, in the Mail’s case, if it serves to further deteriorate the image of Those ’Orrible Foreigners.
How do we know that it’s not just the Daily Mail talking bollocks? We all know most tabloids like to, for lack of a better phrase, "Chat shit" if they think it could be worth a few column inches, especially, in the Mail’s case, if it serves to further deteriorate the image of Those ’Orrible Foreigners.
David Barks
8 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:32:41
8 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:32:41
If everything the Daily Mail printed came to be we would be living in a very strange world. It could just be that the man decided to go and see his family for a couple of days while he was in Africa, what a sin that would be.
steve ferns
9 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:35:03
9 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:35:03
It was reported on some nigerian site i had never heard of first.
I like your response Rob, very funny!
I like your response Rob, very funny!
Dab
10 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:40:40
10 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:40:40
He spent four seasons at Hapoel, he spent two at Portsmouth and Boro. YOUR STUDY IS MISSING!! !
Stuart Reid
11 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:35:49
11 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:35:49
With regards to Dick’s comment, while I agree in principle that every player should be treated the same, in reality a good manager needs to handle his best players very carefully.
It would be OK to get rid of an average player right away, but with a player who brings so much to the team you might need to excuse them to an extent.
An example is the way Alex Ferguson dealt with Eric Cantona. I’m not comparing the two players (Cantona and Yakubu) by any means, but Ferguson would never have excused the attack on the fan from, say, Brian McClair. He stood by Cantona because his talent made it worth it.
This sort of attitude does not sit well with me but the reality is that we need Yakubu’s goals.
It would be OK to get rid of an average player right away, but with a player who brings so much to the team you might need to excuse them to an extent.
An example is the way Alex Ferguson dealt with Eric Cantona. I’m not comparing the two players (Cantona and Yakubu) by any means, but Ferguson would never have excused the attack on the fan from, say, Brian McClair. He stood by Cantona because his talent made it worth it.
This sort of attitude does not sit well with me but the reality is that we need Yakubu’s goals.
Rich Grisdale
12 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:54:50
12 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:54:50
think we should defo wait and hear the full story. Cant be jumping the gun just yet...also that report to me just looks like its tryin to stir something, if he has gone AWOL surely moyes wudnt decide he doesnt want him that quickly? how does that journalist know what moyes is goin do? hold tight i say.....
steve ferns
13 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:58:05
13 Posted 08/02/2008 at 00:58:05
You’re quite right Stuart. Some players need an arm round them when things go round, others need a kick up the backside. If the specualtion (because that is all it is at the moment) is correct, then Moyes needs to sit down and think carefully. Can he get Yakubu back in the camp, keep the camp hapy and get him back up front scoring goals. If he can then he needs to do what he has to to get the Yak firing again.
I think he learnt this after the infamous player fall out of a few years ago. Moyes now seems to have learned how to deal with some of the fragile big name stars who cannot respond to a high level of discipline. It is crucial that he can deal with these type of players as the better we get the more these skills will be called into question.
I think he learnt this after the infamous player fall out of a few years ago. Moyes now seems to have learned how to deal with some of the fragile big name stars who cannot respond to a high level of discipline. It is crucial that he can deal with these type of players as the better we get the more these skills will be called into question.
Chris James
14 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:17:38
14 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:17:38
I think we may have missed out on the full story here as it happens, as it’s the Daily Mail I believe the original headline read:
"Missing Yakubu set for high jump at Goodison now faces deportation as immigrant work who’s come over here and taken our jobs and is probably a thieving terrorist and a single mother too, well you can’t trust em can you, they’re not really one of us middle class white bigots who went to a good school and live in the home counties"
Quite frankly I wouldn’t believe a word the Daily Mail prints it’s deplorable, blinkered facist rubbish that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on (ahem, think I’ve made the point there)
"Missing Yakubu set for high jump at Goodison now faces deportation as immigrant work who’s come over here and taken our jobs and is probably a thieving terrorist and a single mother too, well you can’t trust em can you, they’re not really one of us middle class white bigots who went to a good school and live in the home counties"
Quite frankly I wouldn’t believe a word the Daily Mail prints it’s deplorable, blinkered facist rubbish that isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on (ahem, think I’ve made the point there)
Kieran Kinsella
15 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:37:35
15 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:37:35
Every time the ANC ends there are players who don’t turn up for training on time. The media always make a fuss and usually it all blows over. I think it is premature to say it’s the end of Yak. Moyes will be furious but the minute Yak shows up in training and starts knocking balls into the back of the net all will be forgiven. Come on I mean Moyes forgave Jeffers, he for gave bloody Nyarko and most charitably of all he still pays a wage to AVDM each week.
sean condon
16 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:45:42
16 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:45:42
Thanks, Chris James. That was exactly the headline that I read, too.
Peter Pridgeon
17 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:47:26
17 Posted 08/02/2008 at 01:47:26
Kieran D
You really are a glass half empty man, I would hate to be one of your kids or your poor suffering wife.
The man (Yakubu) is reported; by a less than reputable newspaper to have stayed in Africa a little while longer than expected and you have him leaving the club as a half a season mercenary. How can you accuse this guy of already having another club lined up when you arguably have no other information at your disposal other than the Daily Mail
Rob Paterson has hit the nail on the head by saying please do not stand for jury duty
’Hang em all and let god sort it out’
You really are a glass half empty man, I would hate to be one of your kids or your poor suffering wife.
The man (Yakubu) is reported; by a less than reputable newspaper to have stayed in Africa a little while longer than expected and you have him leaving the club as a half a season mercenary. How can you accuse this guy of already having another club lined up when you arguably have no other information at your disposal other than the Daily Mail
Rob Paterson has hit the nail on the head by saying please do not stand for jury duty
’Hang em all and let god sort it out’
Andrew Paolacci
18 Posted 08/02/2008 at 03:37:27
18 Posted 08/02/2008 at 03:37:27
There must be more to this than ’The Yak’ just simply going AWOL.. he’s probably just seeing his family.
If he was told to report back to training on the wednesday, and hasn’t, then Moyes will deal with him accordingly.
However, DM will take into account Yakubu’s importance coming into the home stretch of the season, & hopefully there’s nothing more to it!
If he was told to report back to training on the wednesday, and hasn’t, then Moyes will deal with him accordingly.
However, DM will take into account Yakubu’s importance coming into the home stretch of the season, & hopefully there’s nothing more to it!
Steven Nikolovski
19 Posted 08/02/2008 at 06:23:46
19 Posted 08/02/2008 at 06:23:46
Who gives a shit as long as he bangs the goals in. We are a different team with him in there.
It says on toffeeweb that he will be fined 80k (2 weeks wages). I reckon if he keeps us in the top 4 we give him a 80k raise!
It says on toffeeweb that he will be fined 80k (2 weeks wages). I reckon if he keeps us in the top 4 we give him a 80k raise!
Dick Fearon
20 Posted 08/02/2008 at 07:02:14
20 Posted 08/02/2008 at 07:02:14
Taking advice from fellow evertonians I took the Mail article with a pinch of salt but what to do when the Independent and Times reports on the same thing.
Is there a vast anti Everton conspiracy among the print media?
I thought it best to go to the club
OS, that impeccable fount of honesty and truth on all matters Everton.
That august mouthpiece does not give it a mention, nary a whisper or a peep. Er’ thats alright then, it is isn’t it?
Is there a vast anti Everton conspiracy among the print media?
I thought it best to go to the club
OS, that impeccable fount of honesty and truth on all matters Everton.
That august mouthpiece does not give it a mention, nary a whisper or a peep. Er’ thats alright then, it is isn’t it?
peter corcoran
21 Posted 08/02/2008 at 07:38:50
21 Posted 08/02/2008 at 07:38:50
Kieran D
It’s good to know that you have taken the opportunity to try and find Yakubu guilty of an offence that has not been widely reported.
I also think what was reported is not what you have found him guilty of. It appears that Yakubu travelled via a different route than SOME of the Nigeria players but some of his team-mates were with him - so he hasn’t gone missing at all.
Shame on you.
It’s good to know that you have taken the opportunity to try and find Yakubu guilty of an offence that has not been widely reported.
I also think what was reported is not what you have found him guilty of. It appears that Yakubu travelled via a different route than SOME of the Nigeria players but some of his team-mates were with him - so he hasn’t gone missing at all.
Shame on you.
Dutch Schffaer
22 Posted 08/02/2008 at 08:16:14
22 Posted 08/02/2008 at 08:16:14
I hate to say I told you so but this is exactly the sort of thing I feared would happen.
David Gallant
23 Posted 08/02/2008 at 08:26:59
23 Posted 08/02/2008 at 08:26:59
Thank you Kieran ... for pointing out what the Yak’s cost is per goal ... I wonder if you will be as quick to point out this particular stat in say, six months time? That is if the Yak is still here of course.
There is a fine line between passion and knee-jerk innit?
There is a fine line between passion and knee-jerk innit?
Tony Part
24 Posted 08/02/2008 at 08:31:58
24 Posted 08/02/2008 at 08:31:58
I wouldnt get too carried away yet,we all know how the papers pump things out of proportion..It could be that he has had family issues that need dealing with or anything..The papers go over the top ’could this be the end of Yakubu at Everton’ one quotes..Put simple we are lost and blunt as the rubber end of a pencil without Yakubu and even if we did have to sell him we have probably missed out on a great bargain in the 7 million pound Jermaine Defoe last month..How many other strikers would we get for that who have a goals record?. I mean Reading snubbing a 7 million bid for Leroy Lita?? Come on be serious..If Yakubu has breached club rules he will be fined ,spoken to by Moyes in private and by his team mates I hope and then get on with what he he does which is scoring goals to fire us upwards until May.
Alan Ryder
25 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:03:46
25 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:03:46
Radio Merseyside report that club refute the story and he is back!
Kieron your words are a tad premature.
Kieron your words are a tad premature.
Steve Callan
26 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:21:57
26 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:21:57
Moyes should listen carefully to his explanation and if, as expected, it’s a load of bollocks fine him, play him in the stiffs and sell the git ASAP
Dan J
27 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:31:45
27 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:31:45
My gut says the Yak has always seen us as yet another stepping stone. Hat trick against sunderland aside I dont think he knows/appreciates what it means to be an Everton player. There is an air of selfishness about him. Compare the Yak to Yobo, Yobo was on the first plane home as his loyalty is with Everton......unlike the Yak.
Peter Toney
28 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:46:48
28 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:46:48
Dan i hate to say it i think your wrong. Lets wait to see what the officiial site says before laying into the lad.
and by the way the Yak didnt score a hat-trick against Sunderland which proves your knowledge of the game is about as strong as the Daily Mails
and by the way the Yak didnt score a hat-trick against Sunderland which proves your knowledge of the game is about as strong as the Daily Mails
Paul Lenehan
29 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:47:20
29 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:47:20
Im probably in the minority here. But I think a lot of you are reading to much into this. professional players across the world do stupid things and sometimes act like idiots. It happens all the time. Now im raging at Yak as we desperately need goals and think he has acted like an idiot and been pretty selfish. But as for using us as a stepping stone and having other clubs lining up I don’t think so.
Dick Fearon
30 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:53:08
30 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:53:08
I am beginning to lose faith in the Everton OS. Still nothing on it about Yak.Tabloids blew the story yesterday.
It seems that for news of genuine Everton concern. I would be better served by the gutter press.
It seems that for news of genuine Everton concern. I would be better served by the gutter press.
Jack Calvert
31 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:57:49
31 Posted 08/02/2008 at 09:57:49
ON SSNews they run the story too, also stating that he is back on merseyside.
As has been mentioned untill something is officially released on the site or by Moyes in his press conference lets not all jump to conclusions. At this stage it could well be the case that he wanted a day or 2 to see his family. Makes sense if a lot of them are stilll over there. As for not reporting it to Moyes, I’m sure Yobo may have told Moyes what was going on. Personally if he is back and according to ssnews and radio merseyside he is, I can not see him not playing on sat, especially if he has had a says training under him. Footballers are human as well you know, I’m sure that many will have sympathy with Yakubu if he has only missed a flight to see family. With all the travelling that the top players do with Intl and European games these days even the local based players don’t get to spend as much time with family as they would like.
As has been mentioned untill something is officially released on the site or by Moyes in his press conference lets not all jump to conclusions. At this stage it could well be the case that he wanted a day or 2 to see his family. Makes sense if a lot of them are stilll over there. As for not reporting it to Moyes, I’m sure Yobo may have told Moyes what was going on. Personally if he is back and according to ssnews and radio merseyside he is, I can not see him not playing on sat, especially if he has had a says training under him. Footballers are human as well you know, I’m sure that many will have sympathy with Yakubu if he has only missed a flight to see family. With all the travelling that the top players do with Intl and European games these days even the local based players don’t get to spend as much time with family as they would like.
Tony Part
32 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:02:07
32 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:02:07
Well having met Joseph Yobo he did seem like a truly genuinly decent man who unlike a lot of footballers these days remembers what life would be like if he was not in the position he is in now..I think Yobo is a model proffessional and there is lots many young players could take from him in how to conduct themselves..
Tommy Coleman
33 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:32:35
33 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:32:35
The Sun reported he went out on the lash with AVD for a couple of days.
Jack Calvert
34 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:29:38
34 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:29:38
Just had a look at the original news story on the Nigerian sports site. Interestingly a certain Jon Obi Mikel was listed in being 1 of the many who went to Lagos. Funny how the media are not quock to jump on his back...
Ans who said there was no such thing as a Rupert Murdoch/Sky/G14/Big 4/Refs conspiracy against us?
http://www.kickoffnigeria.com/static/news/article.php?id=1225
Ans who said there was no such thing as a Rupert Murdoch/Sky/G14/Big 4/Refs conspiracy against us?
http://www.kickoffnigeria.com/static/news/article.php?id=1225
andrew laird
35 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:29:32
35 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:29:32
What a ridiculous thread, why don’t we wait and see what Mr Moyes says about one of his Everton players. I know the media use a lot of satellites but do you really think they have tapped all mobiles connected to Everton to make sure there has been no contact between the player and the club? lets face it nobody cares that much about us in the media do they? unless of course it is to disrupt our fan base, club and players. Lets not forget the other gems and exclusive stories this lot revealed during transfer windows, oh how I will miss Cahill and Johnson at West Ham and Arteta who is off to Madrid, hang on there still here! If these papers were not so uncomfortable and I was still a student I would gladly wipe my arse with the lot of them!
Greg Murphy
36 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:16:25
36 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:16:25
Tony Part - you’re right. Joseph Yobo is an absolute gem of a guy. With a wicked sense of humour, too. Sadly, he hasn’t got a "Stubbs gob" on him, which is frustrating because he’d make a superb captain. It almost seems to have gone unnoticed but he’s quietly racked-up six years with the Blues.
As for Yakubu, I’ve kept his quotes on leaving Boro in mind ever since. "I left Middlesbrough because they’re not in Europe - at the moment Everton are." It was his use of "at the moment" that really grated.Curiously, though, we are in Europe and doing rather well, so the lad should be happy. But there’s always goalposts to move, I suppose.
Also, I’ve got a really high regard for Steve Gibson: the truest of chairmen in the Prem in my opinion (and the only one to have had the guts not to have been intimidated by the RS i.e. concerning the Ziege transfer). When the likes of Gibson, a man not easily riled, starts publicly slating a player i.e. Yakubu - then it’s worth bearing in mind. But that’s just my view.
I’m still not convinced that Yakubu was Moyes’ man and it wasn’t just the likes of Guillem Balague stating that as fact which makes me think that. I’m sure we would have heard a hint from Moyes during the previous windows and indeed during the early summer that Yakubu was a player he fancied. Instead, his name - and the funds it seems - came from nowhere with just two weeks of the window left.
Was I the only one who was slightly disconcerted at Yakubu’s far too lengthy and far too cozy chat with Avram Grant (a man who he has worked with at Pompey - who has gone on record as saying he rates highly)?
Yeah, it could have been old mates meeting up...
As for Yakubu, I’ve kept his quotes on leaving Boro in mind ever since. "I left Middlesbrough because they’re not in Europe - at the moment Everton are." It was his use of "at the moment" that really grated.Curiously, though, we are in Europe and doing rather well, so the lad should be happy. But there’s always goalposts to move, I suppose.
Also, I’ve got a really high regard for Steve Gibson: the truest of chairmen in the Prem in my opinion (and the only one to have had the guts not to have been intimidated by the RS i.e. concerning the Ziege transfer). When the likes of Gibson, a man not easily riled, starts publicly slating a player i.e. Yakubu - then it’s worth bearing in mind. But that’s just my view.
I’m still not convinced that Yakubu was Moyes’ man and it wasn’t just the likes of Guillem Balague stating that as fact which makes me think that. I’m sure we would have heard a hint from Moyes during the previous windows and indeed during the early summer that Yakubu was a player he fancied. Instead, his name - and the funds it seems - came from nowhere with just two weeks of the window left.
Was I the only one who was slightly disconcerted at Yakubu’s far too lengthy and far too cozy chat with Avram Grant (a man who he has worked with at Pompey - who has gone on record as saying he rates highly)?
Yeah, it could have been old mates meeting up...
Ste Lewis
37 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:46:19
37 Posted 08/02/2008 at 10:46:19
He’s been busy putting bogus adverts in Loot, that’s all. ;-)
Jack Calvert
38 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:08:55
38 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:08:55
Greg Murphy - Yakubu didn’t work with Grant at pompey but in Israel for Maccabi Haifa.
Also Alonso and Arteta are best mates, neighbours and talk to each other a lot. Could be that Alonso is on his way here...lol
Also Alonso and Arteta are best mates, neighbours and talk to each other a lot. Could be that Alonso is on his way here...lol
Chris Briddon
39 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:07:12
39 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:07:12
Greg, you friends Mulder & Scully are waiting for you by the way.
I have never known anyone read quite so much hypothesis into such a non-story.
By all acounts Yak was back at Goodison on Thursday, having gone to Nigeria first with most of the squad (only 6 including Joey came straight back).
Then - when he talks to Avram Grant - who he has known for many years, (Yak played for himin Israel too) you get suspicious that he’s moving to chelsea). Have you ever watched Phil Neville or Mikel Arteta, they are always talking to opposition players & staff. When you have been around a bit as a player, you have alot of friends in the game, just cos they are on the opposite team, doesn;t mean you can’t talk to them OR you are automatically signing for them next week!
I have never known anyone read quite so much hypothesis into such a non-story.
By all acounts Yak was back at Goodison on Thursday, having gone to Nigeria first with most of the squad (only 6 including Joey came straight back).
Then - when he talks to Avram Grant - who he has known for many years, (Yak played for himin Israel too) you get suspicious that he’s moving to chelsea). Have you ever watched Phil Neville or Mikel Arteta, they are always talking to opposition players & staff. When you have been around a bit as a player, you have alot of friends in the game, just cos they are on the opposite team, doesn;t mean you can’t talk to them OR you are automatically signing for them next week!
Greg Murphy
40 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:16:40
40 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:16:40
Jack C, Chris B - fair comments, fair enough chaps - we’ll see how this one pans out in the long term.
martin Mcgeever
41 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:18:51
41 Posted 08/02/2008 at 11:18:51
The yak was picked up from manure airport about 10’ish last night (Thursday), will be in training first thing today(fact), who was supposed to be on the lash with AVDM- not Yobo !! as joey does not drink ???
joey was back in training Wednesday-perhaps the yak as other people on this site have said went to see family, nothing wrong with that for a day or so.
All these conspiracies-(e.g) the yak talking to Avram- what would Chelski do with the Yak ???
joey was back in training Wednesday-perhaps the yak as other people on this site have said went to see family, nothing wrong with that for a day or so.
All these conspiracies-(e.g) the yak talking to Avram- what would Chelski do with the Yak ???
Mick Mason
42 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:24:16
42 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:24:16
What a sensitive,understanding and forgiving lot you are!The man is paid £50K PER WEEK to be professional and the manager expects him to be so.My money says he wont be here next season!
harry charles
43 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:30:39
43 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:30:39
hey donnelly your just a scare mongerer ,and sounds like a red nose to me sod off.
Greg Murphy
44 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:15:29
44 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:15:29
Ok time to clarify. Read what I posted at 10.16.
First para is about Yobo. No probs, I assume.
Second para is when I started Yakking and that whole paragraph (regarding his Boro departure quote) recounts on-the-record facts. Not conspiracy.
The next paragraph (about Ste Gibson) also relates fact. Not conspiracy. For Gibson did indeed say that Boro were well rid.
The next para recounts what Balague said. Not me. I do, though, still have my doubts that Yakubu was a first choice for Moyes. That’s my opinion but it’s hardly a conspiratorial one.
The last para concerning Avram Grant (apologies, I thought Yakubu knew Grant at Pompey - but it was in fact Israel, my mistake) was just an observation of mine (and yes, I do know that people in football talk to other people in football).
The common point I was making - which I thought was obvious - throughout all the Yakubu paragraphs (or should that be "paro-graphs"?) is that the lad has a very suspect attitude. He does.
Nowhere did I say that Yakubu was on his was to Chelsea (although it may have been interesting to see if Grant had moved for Yakubu instead of Anelka in that window - perhaps if Nigeria had failed to qualify for the ACN?).
And whilst of course I know that Alonso and Arteta must gab over the pagoda, I was making the point that (knowing Yakubu’s MO) it left me slightly disconcerted seeing him so pally and laughing with Grant, especially in contrast to all the other players who trudged off at the Bridge completely disconsolate at Lescott’s OG just two minutes earlier. Yakubu was laughing and joking as though we’d won!
So, I hardly created a load of hypothesis around such "non-story" as Chris says. Nor have I delved into conspiracies. Just observations.
I merely drew an attitude comparison between a player like Yobo and one like Yakubu. They’re worlds apart (well between Monday and yesterday they were certainly continents apart!).
Anyway, if this is such a "non-story" (player flagrantly abusing club rules, showing lack of respect to fans and team-mates alike, with a probable fine and sanction to follow) then I’d hate to see what a "real-story" is.
First para is about Yobo. No probs, I assume.
Second para is when I started Yakking and that whole paragraph (regarding his Boro departure quote) recounts on-the-record facts. Not conspiracy.
The next paragraph (about Ste Gibson) also relates fact. Not conspiracy. For Gibson did indeed say that Boro were well rid.
The next para recounts what Balague said. Not me. I do, though, still have my doubts that Yakubu was a first choice for Moyes. That’s my opinion but it’s hardly a conspiratorial one.
The last para concerning Avram Grant (apologies, I thought Yakubu knew Grant at Pompey - but it was in fact Israel, my mistake) was just an observation of mine (and yes, I do know that people in football talk to other people in football).
The common point I was making - which I thought was obvious - throughout all the Yakubu paragraphs (or should that be "paro-graphs"?) is that the lad has a very suspect attitude. He does.
Nowhere did I say that Yakubu was on his was to Chelsea (although it may have been interesting to see if Grant had moved for Yakubu instead of Anelka in that window - perhaps if Nigeria had failed to qualify for the ACN?).
And whilst of course I know that Alonso and Arteta must gab over the pagoda, I was making the point that (knowing Yakubu’s MO) it left me slightly disconcerted seeing him so pally and laughing with Grant, especially in contrast to all the other players who trudged off at the Bridge completely disconsolate at Lescott’s OG just two minutes earlier. Yakubu was laughing and joking as though we’d won!
So, I hardly created a load of hypothesis around such "non-story" as Chris says. Nor have I delved into conspiracies. Just observations.
I merely drew an attitude comparison between a player like Yobo and one like Yakubu. They’re worlds apart (well between Monday and yesterday they were certainly continents apart!).
Anyway, if this is such a "non-story" (player flagrantly abusing club rules, showing lack of respect to fans and team-mates alike, with a probable fine and sanction to follow) then I’d hate to see what a "real-story" is.
Brian Garside
45 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:46:14
45 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:46:14
Read "Yak to Rot" in the mail bag. For an opinion on how Yak should be treated.
Ade Senior
46 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:53:43
46 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:53:43
The OS says Moyes will make an announcement in the next hour on the Yak.
Richard Clark
47 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:56:39
47 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:56:39
Yaka-Yaka-bu Where are you?, We’ve got some teams to beat now.
Yaka-Yaka-bu Where are you? We need some goals from you now.
Yaka-Yaka-bu Where are you? We need some goals from you now.
Michael Hunt
48 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:57:33
48 Posted 08/02/2008 at 12:57:33
Tha Yak is back....rejoice!!!! (confirmed by the ever reliable journo Ian Doyle!)
C O Y B!!!!
C O Y B!!!!
Tony McDonald
49 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:12:10
49 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:12:10
It’s a good job it was the Mail that reported the story. If it had been the Express, then the Duke of Edinburgh would have been involved in his disappearance and house prices would be falling as a result.
Craig Taylor
50 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:17:37
50 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:17:37
Lets see what Moyes has to say before we jump the gun.
To be honest it isnt like Everton to come out and say anything about stupid shit like this. So the fact Moyes is going to speak suggests its not much to worry about.
To be honest it isnt like Everton to come out and say anything about stupid shit like this. So the fact Moyes is going to speak suggests its not much to worry about.
Tim Coombe
51 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:22:04
51 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:22:04
Calm down,wait till we hear the full story,im sure it will all be fine,bunch of drama queens.
nick Flack
52 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:39:10
52 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:39:10
BURN THE WITCH
FFS
FFS
Tony Williams
53 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:45:00
53 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:45:00
Nobody does conspiracy theories or knee jerk reactions quite like us ha ha
Mike Whittaker
54 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:38:42
54 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:38:42
Yakubu has been bang out of order - the prick needs to be fined and bunged in the reserves for a few weeks. Anybody that goes awol from a job for 3 days gets the sack in ’normal’ life. He’s shown fuck all respect to the club and most importantly his teammates.
He’s quick to spout shit about only wanting to play for ambitious clubs - what ambition has he shown in the last few days? He obviously prefers to lounge about at home then prepare for a massive game for the club that pays his wages. And before anyone goes on about him being entitled to see his family - he can... everyday for 2 months in the summer.
He’s quick to spout shit about only wanting to play for ambitious clubs - what ambition has he shown in the last few days? He obviously prefers to lounge about at home then prepare for a massive game for the club that pays his wages. And before anyone goes on about him being entitled to see his family - he can... everyday for 2 months in the summer.
Tony Williams
55 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:52:19
55 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:52:19
Mike, where have these 3 days coome from? According to the BBC he was home yesterday, one day after Yobo.
I suppose that you have never had a day off work then hey, stayed a day longer perhaps in a friends/siblings/relatives house and missed work on a Monday? I know I have and I wasn’t sacked
I suppose that you have never had a day off work then hey, stayed a day longer perhaps in a friends/siblings/relatives house and missed work on a Monday? I know I have and I wasn’t sacked
Allan Hobbs
56 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:02:32
56 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:02:32
He should probably have his contract cancelled - I think that would be best for everyone.
Dan Mckie
57 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:05:06
57 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:05:06
So he missed a day of work, big deal! People talkin of him being thrown in the reserves or contracts cancelled are talkin crap! He cost Everton 11 million and we need him, and its also rubbish to think that this will damage team spirit, my mate hasnt been in work all week but hes still my mate!!
Peter Toney
58 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:10:29
58 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:10:29
Os says that David Moyes is dealing with it internally but he is not in the squad for tomorrow
Dan Mckie
59 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:13:20
59 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:13:20
He wont play tomorrow, great, talk about cutting our noses off......!
David Cornmell
60 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:53:33
60 Posted 08/02/2008 at 13:53:33
Let’s not rush to judgment. Maybe he is bang out of order, maybe he’s not. We should wait to find out.
If he IS though, then there does have to be some consequences. At my work, we’ve had a few fuckwits on the nightshift not bother to show up or even tell us that they weren’t coming. {One particular wanker got his mate to call in for him. "Mark won’t be in" "Why not?" "He’s too drunk to work"}. What happened to them? A "stern talk" and nonpayment for the days missed. Thats it. The rest of us divvies who do the right thing are absolutely fucked off with it - and thats what Moyes has to be careful of.
If he has gone AWOl, of course.
If he IS though, then there does have to be some consequences. At my work, we’ve had a few fuckwits on the nightshift not bother to show up or even tell us that they weren’t coming. {One particular wanker got his mate to call in for him. "Mark won’t be in" "Why not?" "He’s too drunk to work"}. What happened to them? A "stern talk" and nonpayment for the days missed. Thats it. The rest of us divvies who do the right thing are absolutely fucked off with it - and thats what Moyes has to be careful of.
If he has gone AWOl, of course.
glen strachan
61 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:11:28
61 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:11:28
This is a no-brainer !
We need his goals..........put Yakubu in the side tomorrow.
Tiny Tim only got back this morning (Friday) and we need him in tandem with the Yak against Reading.
Why does it always have to be such a drama ?
We need goals.......Yakubu was bought to score them.....he does.
Welcome back , big man and good luck tomorrow !
We need his goals..........put Yakubu in the side tomorrow.
Tiny Tim only got back this morning (Friday) and we need him in tandem with the Yak against Reading.
Why does it always have to be such a drama ?
We need goals.......Yakubu was bought to score them.....he does.
Welcome back , big man and good luck tomorrow !
Paul Lenehan
62 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:12:11
62 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:12:11
We shouldn’t go over the top. It certainly isn’t the end of the Yak or a sign of him moving on. That said I don’t think the excuse of seeing his family is good enough. He is getting paid a lot of money to play football. He has plenty of time to see family in the summer and unlike the rest of us can stop working when he is 32. Joey was able to come back on time and so should Yak. without going over the top i don’t think anyone can argue that it does show a lack of respect to the club and his fellow players. They have been struggling for goals and working extremely hard with the expectation that when the African lads get back we can push on a try to come fourth. Obviously that does not seem to be so high on Yaks list of priorities.
Steve Grimshaw
63 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:17:55
63 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:17:55
He missed a day at work! So what. Fine him or what ever punishment is deemed fit and lets move on. Its not like he has thrown a game, or killed someone. I believe most people have or probably will miss a days work at some stage of their working lives.
Jay Campbell
64 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:34:35
64 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:34:35
He’s out of the squad for tomo.
Kieran Donnelly
65 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:30:41
65 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:30:41
So having got slagged off for suggesting the Yak was behaving true to type,it transpires that Moyes thinks exactly the same and wont include him tomorrow. According to local press the moron has been fined £80K-the maximum permitted-so it’s hardly ’nothing’ as so many have made out here.I may be old fashioned but it’s about time we all stopped fawning over these overpaid prima donnas and expected them to live up to their responsibilities!
jayharris
66 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:42:34
66 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:42:34
I cant believe there’s so much support for Yakubu.
In a difficult week with players away on International duty Moyes has to prepare the squad.
Yak was supposed to report for training on Wednesday and didnt.
Although we will miss his goal threat and link up play it is more important to keep team discipline and respect.
He needs to eat humble pie something he apparently is not good at.
THERE ARE NO EXCUSES for failure.
In a difficult week with players away on International duty Moyes has to prepare the squad.
Yak was supposed to report for training on Wednesday and didnt.
Although we will miss his goal threat and link up play it is more important to keep team discipline and respect.
He needs to eat humble pie something he apparently is not good at.
THERE ARE NO EXCUSES for failure.
Steve Grimshaw
67 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:49:42
67 Posted 08/02/2008 at 14:49:42
Well Kieran, what would you suggest? Maybe we should never allow him to pull on an Everton shirt again, and then sell him at a fire sale price as soon as the season is over. Lets hang shop lifters while were at it!! Sorry for the sarcasm, but let the punishment fit the crime. He missed a days work for visiting family when the opportunity arose. Anybody that has lived overseas and misses family, can surely understand his motive!
peter corcoran
68 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:10:19
68 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:10:19
Kieran D
To rejoice in being proved right on the shortcomings of an Everton player is even more shameful than your first posting.
what ever happened to getting behind the team instead of snivelling snipes designed to cause unrest?
Obviously your own agenda is more important than the welfare of Everton.
To rejoice in being proved right on the shortcomings of an Everton player is even more shameful than your first posting.
what ever happened to getting behind the team instead of snivelling snipes designed to cause unrest?
Obviously your own agenda is more important than the welfare of Everton.
Erik Dols
69 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:17:14
69 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:17:14
I agree with Steve. The lad’s missed a days work, maybe two. Give him a fine, let him out of the squad for the Reading-game, and go on with business as usual. Why do so many people react like he committed a terrible crime?
I do not accept blindly that he was ’missing’ for two days, but let’s see things into perspective. You read it all the time about South-American and African players returning late. They only get to spend time with their families in the summer, I can see that seize a chance like this to grab a day or two with their beloved ones. I don’t agree with it, it needs to be punished, but I can understand the feelings. I’d rather have this than a certain barcodes midfielder who keeps getting arrested for his behaviour.
I do not accept blindly that he was ’missing’ for two days, but let’s see things into perspective. You read it all the time about South-American and African players returning late. They only get to spend time with their families in the summer, I can see that seize a chance like this to grab a day or two with their beloved ones. I don’t agree with it, it needs to be punished, but I can understand the feelings. I’d rather have this than a certain barcodes midfielder who keeps getting arrested for his behaviour.
Kieran Donnelly
70 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:22:46
70 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:22:46
I write not with a feeling of triumph but only to point out that those who hold these overpaid mercenaries on a pedestal are themselves misguided fools.Is it not OUR hard-earned that makes them wealthy whether that is via attendance or Sky subscription?
Would not most of us show a little sign of responsibility in return for the obscene wages the Yak and his ilk receive?
Would not most of us show a little sign of responsibility in return for the obscene wages the Yak and his ilk receive?
Daniel Marfany
71 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:23:23
71 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:23:23
Too right Peter! This is a stitch up and everyone is falling for it.
The other factor to consider is that when english players go off on international duty somewhere and there is a chance to get out and raise hell they’ll do it (although Capello might put a stop to that!)
Now imagine that you earn £50,000 a week and you go back to a neighbouring country to your home to play a tournament and get knocked out. The next day you are an hour or two flight away from home, and the closest you’re gonna be for some time. The pressure on you to go over and splash some cash and remember everyone who helped you get to where you got would be immense. Now that’s not to say that you shouldn’t put your professional concerns first and be loyal to your club. But loyalties can conflict and you start to get pulled about all over the place. I reckon he hsa gone for an extra day and thought ’feck it, I’ll get bollocked but I can afford the fine and its the last chance I’ll get before summer’. Not good, but if he gets his head down after this it’ll be fine. Moyes needs to bollock him and then we can all forget about it.
The other factor to consider is that when english players go off on international duty somewhere and there is a chance to get out and raise hell they’ll do it (although Capello might put a stop to that!)
Now imagine that you earn £50,000 a week and you go back to a neighbouring country to your home to play a tournament and get knocked out. The next day you are an hour or two flight away from home, and the closest you’re gonna be for some time. The pressure on you to go over and splash some cash and remember everyone who helped you get to where you got would be immense. Now that’s not to say that you shouldn’t put your professional concerns first and be loyal to your club. But loyalties can conflict and you start to get pulled about all over the place. I reckon he hsa gone for an extra day and thought ’feck it, I’ll get bollocked but I can afford the fine and its the last chance I’ll get before summer’. Not good, but if he gets his head down after this it’ll be fine. Moyes needs to bollock him and then we can all forget about it.
stu jonno
72 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:33:32
72 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:33:32
Do England players report for club training 3 days after a European chamionships comes to a dissapointing end?
Paul Smith
73 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:17:29
73 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:17:29
I think all this is way over the top. For me, he has done wrong and, as such, should be punished - a fine and not in the squad for tomorrow seems fair enough to me.
Now, while I understand his motives, surely the best thing for him to do would have been to ask Moysey for permission. The way I see it at this point in the season it would have done no halm him flying back yesterday and joining up today ready to be included in the squad tomorrow (lets face it, the way we have been playing at the moment I would guess he would only have been on the bench anyway). The same goes for Joey - if they wanted to visit family then fine.
These guys are overpaid in my opinion but is that their fault - no it is not. They are just the same as you or I and if I had family living far from me and my work took me closer to them I would expect to get some time off to visit providing it did not affect my work.
COYB
Now, while I understand his motives, surely the best thing for him to do would have been to ask Moysey for permission. The way I see it at this point in the season it would have done no halm him flying back yesterday and joining up today ready to be included in the squad tomorrow (lets face it, the way we have been playing at the moment I would guess he would only have been on the bench anyway). The same goes for Joey - if they wanted to visit family then fine.
These guys are overpaid in my opinion but is that their fault - no it is not. They are just the same as you or I and if I had family living far from me and my work took me closer to them I would expect to get some time off to visit providing it did not affect my work.
COYB
Chris Briddon
74 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:41:16
74 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:41:16
I haven’t read anywhere that Yak has been dropped from tomorrows game as a disciplinary measure.
All Davey said was that when Yak came in he told him he wasn’t in the squad for the game.
Surely this was always likely to be the case as he played on Tuesday, and hasn’t trained since having flown in from Nigeria last night.He will hardly be in a fit state to play on Saturday anyway will he?
Also Kieran, the local press were reporting an £80k fine this morning - at the same time as the scaremongering about him being sold.
As a rule, just cos its in the paper doesn’t make it true!
All Davey said was that when Yak came in he told him he wasn’t in the squad for the game.
Surely this was always likely to be the case as he played on Tuesday, and hasn’t trained since having flown in from Nigeria last night.He will hardly be in a fit state to play on Saturday anyway will he?
Also Kieran, the local press were reporting an £80k fine this morning - at the same time as the scaremongering about him being sold.
As a rule, just cos its in the paper doesn’t make it true!
Daniel Marfany
75 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:50:27
75 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:50:27
They are usually on holiday after a summer tournament then aren’t they, Stu?
Tony Waverleas
76 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:40:57
76 Posted 08/02/2008 at 15:40:57
Oh, the irony!
The finger-waggers & the tut-tutters must have tripping over their carpet slippers to get on here first thing when the story broke. Particularly "those (of us) who study these things" (whatever the f*** that’s supposed to mean.)
As for Yakubu’s crime perhaps if he called himself Duncan Ferguson & got a pseudo Everton tattoo perhaps our fellow moralisers would have a different view of events.
The finger-waggers & the tut-tutters must have tripping over their carpet slippers to get on here first thing when the story broke. Particularly "those (of us) who study these things" (whatever the f*** that’s supposed to mean.)
As for Yakubu’s crime perhaps if he called himself Duncan Ferguson & got a pseudo Everton tattoo perhaps our fellow moralisers would have a different view of events.
colin malone
77 Posted 08/02/2008 at 17:01:50
77 Posted 08/02/2008 at 17:01:50
Give him a break, he's only a day late. FEED THE YAK AND HE WILL SCORE. COYB
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1 Posted 07/02/2008 at 22:37:57
Team discipline would go out the window and with it any hope of challenging for a top spot. After all the hassle he had to put up with, I wonder what Cahill thinks.