Let me tell you a story of two footballing clubs. Our visit to Bergen to watch the mighty Blues against SK Brann will forever be embedded in our minds for some fantastic reasons and, unfortunately, some sour ones also.
On the Morning of the match we decided to make the trek to the ground to get a glimpse of their stadium. We walked up to the ground and was met at a gate by an old guy. He gave us a brief history of the club and casually threw into the conversation that he played for Brann in the 50s. His name was Hans Bjonn Skaqen, he played outside right (see photo 49).
We were shown around the ground and even sat in the dugout where the Blues would make their camp for the evening game. He was the Dave Hickson of Brann (a gentleman and scholar).
At the dugout we were met by a proud gentlemen who also gave us an in-depth view of Brann FC and explained that they owned the club outright and were developing the stadium bit by bit. This guy turned out to be the Wyness of Brann (what an hospitable person he was).
The evening before the game, we wandered into the SAS Radisson hotel in the heart of the town and came across a function that was taking place with Graham Sharp, Kevin Radcliffe and Ian Snodin giving a talk on everything Everton. We bought our drinks from the bar and listened to the 3 legends, but trouble was brewing as individual officials from Everton Football Club began a task of removing us from this gathering.
Was it because we were aliens from another planet? Maybe it was because we weren't wearing a cravat or even smoking cigars. Why was it that loyal Evertonians where being treated like a piece of shit that had got stuck on their shoe? Bingo, we knew. Our T shirts gave it away. What was written on the front? It read simply "Keep Everton in our City".
After being refused another drink from the hotel public bar at the request of these individuals and being told to leave, it all fell into place why they had so much hatred during those 25 brief minutes. If this is the policy being injected through the club towards its supporters no wonder there is a campaign the remove Keith Wyness from his job.
Alfie Hincks, Posted 16/02/2008 at 15:50:18
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1 Posted 16/02/2008 at 15:59:34
Unfortunately, though, by making the Kirkby issue so personal over the summer (I’m thinking specifically of the "Farce" flyer) it’s not at all surprising that you were chucked out by Everton officials, no doubt at the request of the higher-ups.
2 Posted 16/02/2008 at 16:07:21
3 Posted 16/02/2008 at 16:18:15
4 Posted 16/02/2008 at 16:28:31
5 Posted 16/02/2008 at 16:40:12
6 Posted 16/02/2008 at 17:00:52
7 Posted 16/02/2008 at 16:59:08
Sorry Alfie lad, but its obvious your support - and cash - is taken for granted
8 Posted 16/02/2008 at 17:13:41
9 Posted 16/02/2008 at 17:30:50
Simple fact is If one group supports an idea they’re not going to let people in protest shirts, or Shirts going against their Beliefs into the Bar, Party, Hotel etc.
10 Posted 16/02/2008 at 17:39:30
11 Posted 16/02/2008 at 18:13:01
very harsh, funny as fuck though
12 Posted 16/02/2008 at 18:09:32
13 Posted 16/02/2008 at 20:05:14
On the other hand it’s obviously true what Art says, the lads inadvertently walked into a private function and the inevitable occured.
14 Posted 16/02/2008 at 20:45:59
15 Posted 16/02/2008 at 21:36:15
16 Posted 16/02/2008 at 22:50:20
Do me a favour
17 Posted 16/02/2008 at 23:21:14
18 Posted 17/02/2008 at 08:33:32
19 Posted 17/02/2008 at 09:22:18
This is a non-story.
20 Posted 17/02/2008 at 09:23:19
Kirkby isn’t a city, which is partly the point!
As far as people talking about gatecrashing, these people had spent a small fortune going to support OUR team. How many critisizing them here did the same? They are entitled to voice or display their opinion on this critical issue (possibly the most important in our history), we’re not a totalitarian football club state yet despite the club’s policy regarding this whole move issue.
21 Posted 17/02/2008 at 09:45:28
The fact remains this was a private function to which this group was NOT invited.
What has the cost of the trip got to do with it?
By the way, I too went to the game in Bergen, but to my knowledge, the cost did’nt include gatecrashing someone elses pre-match party.
22 Posted 17/02/2008 at 09:41:30
23 Posted 17/02/2008 at 10:20:20
I would fully expect to be ejected from the Hospitality tent in the Goodison car park if I had not bought a ticket.
I am not sure what it is you wanted to achieve from this post but I suspect it has everything to do with your last sentence, a dig at Wyness for your bunking into a private do, tenous link at best mate.
Tom Hughes so if I pay whatever hundred pounds to go to Barcelona, can I just walk into the Bernabau? I mean I have paid a lot of money to get there, I wonder why they wouldn’t let me unto the Hatton fight in Vegas, I had paid over £500 to follow him there!!
24 Posted 17/02/2008 at 10:23:15
I am not anti-the club at all. I am anti-Kirkby and have stated the reasons why. I believe most of my concerns voiced over several months have gradually come to fruition. (Tell me if you think what is on offer now is the same as pre-vote.)
I have no idea if this was a "private" function or not, it wasn?t stated in the piece, and am not condoning gatecrashing. I have no idea if other passing Evertonians were ejected. I have however witnessed first hand the club?s whole policy regarding any anti-Kirkby stance....... and it stinks. If this action was purely coincidental then I?ll stand corrected.
25 Posted 17/02/2008 at 10:46:30
You can view it both ways...... This is supposed to be "The People?s Club"! It?s not like these "people" didn?t know the family at this "private" do. They chanced upon the party of supposedly old friends, all a long way from home, and were even able to walk in and buy drinks without being turned away. Like I said above, it may just be coincidental that they were wearing the t-shirts and were then ejected.
26 Posted 17/02/2008 at 13:45:42
27 Posted 17/02/2008 at 13:45:47
Good thread up until the bit where you became a dishonest politician at the end. Do us a favor! As someone has already mentioned the PRIVATE function was set up by Thomas Cook and from what I can gather you had to pay a pretty penny to be a legitamate part of that.
Whilst I comend of the efforts and the goals the KEIOC crew are trying to acheive, some of the stuff they are coming out with recently is making it very difficult to take them seriously. Yes I actually want to Keep Everton in our city, but can we just make up our own minds without these silly pointless digs at the club that hold absolutely no weight. There are probably a thousand reasons and points on why Everton should stay in the City, but with threads like this its starting to look like they were all exhausted a long time ago!
28 Posted 17/02/2008 at 15:41:54
Of course, if there was a big sign outside saying ’All Evertonians Welcome’, then this would be a different matter, but it appears this wasn’t the case.
29 Posted 17/02/2008 at 16:24:20
I would like to know the whole story, were they asked for their tickets? Did the people who "ejected" them advise them why they were ejected. I would put a few quid down on the fact they were told it was a private fuction by paid invitation only and asked to leave.
30 Posted 17/02/2008 at 22:09:54
If his residential address really is Kirkby and he talks about keeping Everton in ’our’ city I can only assume that he considers himself to be a citizen of Liverpool and ipso facto that Kirkby is a part of the city.
That would shoot to pieces any argument he may have about city boundaries etc.
31 Posted 18/02/2008 at 08:44:39
there are scousers all of the country, indeed the world, who still call Liverpool "My city "
Everton represents the comunity and is as much a part of our heritage as St Georges Hall, or the Liver Buildings, or the Beates or anything else you want to associate with the city.
Kirkby is a Liverpool overspill populated by thousands and thousands of scousers, and judging by the people I know it seems predominantly blue, but its not "our city"
32 Posted 18/02/2008 at 09:56:29
I have friends/relatives who live in Widnes, Runcorn and the Wirral who all say that we should stay in our/their city, they are all scouse exiles afterall. None would say that they actually live in that city because quite frankly it would be untrue. The same applies to Kirkby. It is not a city, and it is not in Liverpool.
However, to be honest my own stance would be the same if we chose to move to Gilmoss/croxteth or Speke (which I could walk to) which are all inside the boundary. It’s not that I’m against moving per se it’s simply the logistical nonsense of moving to the edge of a city that has only one public transport focus (the city centre), that is laid out in predominantly radial arterial routes (not a grid) with limited cross city routes. Stadia need mass transit provision from all areas across their catchment. Unlike the major German cities we have nothing like that, and there is no suggestion of such in any of the transport plans. I digress!!! ;)
33 Posted 18/02/2008 at 09:50:48
What you stand for is important but your current conduct is ridiculous (although I'm sure your'e more than happy at the amount of exposure your stunt has brought KEIOC at the expense of your self-worth and dignity.)
34 Posted 18/02/2008 at 11:05:01
35 Posted 18/02/2008 at 12:18:48
36 Posted 18/02/2008 at 12:49:17
37 Posted 18/02/2008 at 13:00:11
With the RS everything is the Yanks fault and with us everything is the Club?s fault... its not you know!!
38 Posted 18/02/2008 at 13:10:36
Every post I see off you on here is negative and full of moaning. Don?t be so bitter all of your life. Relax Fella. You?re supposed to enjoy supporting your club.
Come on you Blues!
39 Posted 18/02/2008 at 13:20:42
Get a grip FFS
40 Posted 18/02/2008 at 14:46:26
I urge you to write a letter or send an email to the club and let them know about this, I?m sure their response will be more in keeping with Evertonia.
41 Posted 18/02/2008 at 14:46:01
Where’s all my "moaning" prior to this thread. Highlighting facts isn’t moaning surely, most of which having come true already. To be honest, it’s very difficult to be positive about Kirkby. It’s hard to see how a even a YES voter could be given the fact that what they voted for bares little resemblance to what we have since learnt about this project. As far as being embittered etc, I can assure you I am completely relaxed, and as ever will continue enjoying my visits to Goodison.
42 Posted 19/02/2008 at 10:10:03
Are you familiar Aesop’s Fable’s?
Your post reminds me of this one.
THE ANT AND THE CRICKET.
During the wintertime, an ant was living off the grain that he had stored up for himself during the summer.
The cricket came to the ant and asked him to share some of his grain.
The ant said to the cricket, ’And what were you doing all summer long, since you weren’t gathering grain to eat?’
The cricket replied, ’Because I was busy singing I didn’t have time for the harvest.’
The ant laughed at the cricket’s reply, and hid his heaps of grain deeper in the ground.
’Since you sang like a fool in the summer,’ said the ant, ’you better be prepared to dance the winter away....and travel to a Reebok-style, two-bob ground, outside the city and sit in a 55,000 seater stadium with 38,000 people all saying "Well I never fuuckin’ voted for it like!"
Then spend two hours getting home.
43 Posted 19/02/2008 at 13:22:40
44 Posted 19/02/2008 at 13:32:51
You?re talking like an insane person lad!
45 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:41:51