ToffeeWeb - Season 2007-08

Gareth Hughes
1 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:03:29

That is a shocking side Chris! Weir at right back? Unsworth would’nt get into my top 30 players of the last 12 years.I would also go for Lee Carsley over or Joe Parkinson over Gravesen.

Rich Cee
2 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:04:40

With 4 centre-backs in Chris?s team - step forward Walter to manage the team!!!

Andy Ellams
3 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:10:13

Where is Yobo, Yakubu, Cahill, Osman, Pienaar, Fernandes all better than some of this dross.

Chris Keightley
4 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:09:02

I did say this was off the cuff. Weir actually played left back many times... Joe Parkinson ? you kidding?? Carsley was Gravesen's bitch during his first spell so grav over carsley. The squad was picked on form at that time. For me, Rhino was a power house who weighed in with vital goals. Campbell almost single-handedly kept us up. Kanchelskis's first season was superb and he weighed in with some lovely goals.

Chris Keightley
5 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:15:41

Andy: Yobo or Weir?? Yak or Rooney?? Pienaar or Speed?? Cahill or Kanchelskis ?? Want to retract??

Jay Harris
6 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:04:15

You?ve opened a hornet's nest now Chris.

Steve Hopkins
7 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:09:54

Great servants to the the club they were but Weir and Unsy certainly wouldn?t get in my team ahead of Yobo, hell if we?re gonna be stupid we could put Joe-Max Moore in for Arteta.

In all seriousness though your post got me thinking...there isn?t many in your list that I?d be rushing to stick into our current team... Kanchelskis, Speed and Martyn (all in their hey day of course). I guess it shows the strength of the current team.

And ps i?d have the 6 months of excellence of Stevie Peanuts over the 6 months (out of 5 years) of the Gravedigger.

Dave Lynch
8 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:12:31

Don’t like this FM stuff.
But Richard Gough would walk into any of my teams, as would a fit and able Dunc.
Whatever you think of him, fit and able he was awsome.
Big Ammo was another fave of mine, just loved the guy and the way he played for all his faults.

Ben Jackson
9 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:16:21

1. Sander Westerveld
2.Terry Phelan
3. Earl Barrett
4. Per Kroldrup
5. Slaven Bilic
6. Gareth Farrelly
7. Mitch Ward
8. Gravesen (This time)
9. Brett Angell
10. Nick Chadwick
11. David Ginola

I think this team would give yours a run for their money Chris!!!

Duncan McDine
10 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:17:52

Chris, nice thread, but you’re off your head!!!

David Weir has NEVER played left back... he started off playing on the right every now and then, but moved to centre half where he was better. If you know your history, Joe Parkinson was the heartbeat of the Dogs of War, and a terrific player.... and Carsley (his bitch) - you should wash your mouth out!!!

I’d have to agree with a few of your choices, but Rhino ain’t one of em!!!

Dave Brown
11 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:21:52

Graham Stuart was one of my faves. 100% always from him. Joe Parkinson was very underatted as far as I’m concerned. They would both make good additions to our squad now imo.

Chris Keightley
12 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:20:06

I agree my back four wasn't thought out, in fact my mate rang to see if I hadn't fallen and hit my head!!

Andy Ellams
13 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:32:23

Chris how about Yak & Rooney. As for the rest, I’d still take my selections over yours. Kanchelskis stayed for 5 minutes, Stevie P has more class in his little finger than Speed and as for Weir over Yobo, I don’t even know where to start.

Kev Kendall
14 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:16:52

Best in positions of a 442

Martyn

S.Watson
Bilic
Gough
Lescott

Dacourt

Kanchelskis
Arteta
Pienaar

Ferguson
Rooney

Subs

Howard
Materazzi
Yobo
Hutchinson
Fernandes
Jeffers
Yakubu

...well, possibly, ask me again tomorrow

LOL

Ian Bonnette
15 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:32:43

What about Gazza!! He´d get into either of those 2 teams, wouldn´t he?

Alan Rodgers
16 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:37:08

Glad to see Richard Gough in there - made from girders !

Chris Keightley
17 Posted 19/02/2008 at 16:38:23

Andy I would have to take the Man Utd badge-kissing mother fucker over Yak, Rooney got me on the edge of my seat everytime he touched the ball. Yak hasn't had that effect, Kanchelskis: old-fashioned winger, lovely quick feet, I guess the above players I picked whether they were the best since 1995, they were the ones that I have fond memories of.

Chris Silverman
18 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:02:17

Martyn

S.Watson
Yobo
D Watson
Lescott

Parky

Kanchelskis
Speed
Arteta

Yak
Rooney

Subs

Howard
Pienaar
Cahill
Gough
Ferguson

Trudy Boston
19 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:03:16

There can be no doubt the starting eleven we have now is superior to the team of 1995. I would say it's the best side since 1996 actually. People will assume 1995 was a good team because we won the FA Cup but I feel that was more down to relevant absentees that Manchester United had on the day that enabled us to beat them.

Back then we had some really hard working players such as Parkinson, Hinchcliffe and Watson, but little in the way of flair apart from Limpar and later Kanchelskis. I would not swap the team of today for the 1995 side for all the tea in China. Look at the abundance of talent and future stars at our disposal. Artreta, Cahill, Vaughan, Anichebe and the list goes on. I am certain that it won't be long now before we do win another piece of silverware and with Liverpool on a downward spiral it's a good if not great time to be in the blue half of the city.

PS My heartfelt congratulations to Barnsley for their victory, and to Inter Milan tonight, ahead of time.

John Lloyd
20 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:10:37

Howard

Neville
Yobo
Jagielka
Lescott

Arteta
Cahill
Parkinson
Kanchelskis
Pienaar

Yakubu

Dont get all starry eyed about the likes of Unsy, Weir, Gough, Hutchison, S Watson & even Big Dunc they were average players who were playing in a bad, bad team who were lucky on more than one occasion to stay in premier league.

I had to stick Joe P in cos he was amazing, that good he would of been in england squad barring injury top man & Andrei who until recently would be the pleyer we had who could get in most sides in the prem & possibly europe. cant argue with that

Jay Campbell
21 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:12:04

1) Paul Gerrard
2) Mark Hottiger
3) Zico Naysmith
4) Slaven Bilic
5) Carl Tiler
6) Claus Thomson
7) Danny Williamson
8) John Oster
9) John Spencer
10) Michael Branch
11) Zinedene Kilbane

Subs) Tobias Linderoth, Mark Pembridge, Mitch Ward, Back of the Echo, Terry Phelan, Rodrigo "Lord Lucan"br />
Worra fucking team! Even Brasil 1970 would get it off that mob.

Just gutted Brett Angel got the elbow before our cup triumph coz if there ever woz a footballer who deserved silverware it woz Brett.

Steve Ferns
22 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:25:14

Martyn,
Neville,
Dave Watson,
Yobo,
Lescott,
Kanchelskis,
Carsley,
Cahill,
Arteta,
Pienaar,
Yakubu

I’ll think you’ll find they are all internationals except Arteta

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:35:54

or

Gerrard,
Hottiger,
Koldrup,
Tiler,
Phelan,
Degn,
Thompson,
Gemmil (c),
Ginola,
Spencer,
Angel

Best team ever, I bet a few of them have played for our "legends" team on sky, or whatever they call the indoor over 35s 5-a-side these days.

Steve Ferns
24 Posted 19/02/2008 at 17:41:39

If Angel doesn’t count then i’ll throw in Ibhrahima Bakayoko. Remember he’s the epitome of scouting on Championship Manager, was class on that, shite in real life.

Paul Hennessey
25 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:00:21

Martyn

Ball
Yobo
Lescott
Neville

Parkinson
Arteta
Kanchelskis
Cahill

Piennar
Yakubu

Subs
Howard
Ferrari
Baines
Gravesen (1st time)
Duncan

ste
26 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:15:23

Howard
Nelville
Yobo
Gough
Lescott
Arteta
Parkinson
Speed
Kanchelkis
Yakubu
Campbell

James Smith
27 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:23:20

Howard

Neville
Yobo
Lescott
Baines

Carsley
Osman

Arteta
Cahill
Pienaar

Yakubu.

Paul Henshaw
28 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:24:54

1.Martyn
2.S.Watson 4.Yobo 5.Lescott 3.Ball
6.Parkinson
7.Kanchelskis 11.Limpar
8.Arteta 10.Cahill
9.Ferguson

Darren Manning
29 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:29:52

I?ll probably get shot for this, but if it?s on playing ability alone and not ?legend? status or whatever- then that fat kid who used to play for us was a bit handy? I?d have to find room for Dacourt and Materazzi as well I reckon. Anyone else think it?s poor that our best left back, Lescott, is really a centre-half?

Andrew Oxton
30 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:36:14

Why have I seen Nevilles name on any of these teams? He shouldnt even be on the piss take teams.

Nick Heady
31 Posted 19/02/2008 at 18:42:53

Obviously Deirdre or jigsaw had already left as theres no mention! What a player. I think that sums up that 95% of what we've got now is better than what we had.

Ryan Holroyd
32 Posted 19/02/2008 at 19:25:28

Martyn
Nevillle
Yobo
Watson
Lescott

Parkinson
Kanchelskis
Arteta
Pienaar

Cahill

Rooney

Justyna Hunt
33 Posted 19/02/2008 at 19:29:59

Southall

Hinchcliffe
Lescott
Materazzi
Fernandes (rb)

Kanchelskis
Arteta
Dacourt
Limpar /Pienaar
Cahill

Rooney

Subs: Martyn, Gough, Yobo, Parkinson, Vaughan, Yakubu

Charlie Percival
34 Posted 19/02/2008 at 19:53:56

Where's Danny Cadamarteri??

Charlie Percival
35 Posted 19/02/2008 at 20:04:03

This is the best 11 since our last trophy and I think its evident.

1) Tim Howard

2) Phil Neville
3) Phil Jagielka
4) Joseph Yobo
5) Joleon Lescott

6) Mikel Arteta
7) Steven Pienaar
8) Lee Carsley
9) Tim Cahill
10) Manuel Fernandes
11) Yakubu

Matty Dawkins
36 Posted 19/02/2008 at 20:44:48

Come on people.... Wot no Tony Thomas???
Where’s Linderoth?

Jason Cooke
37 Posted 19/02/2008 at 21:31:08

I agree with Charlie, what the hell is wrong with the team now? We are 4th and will stay there and will WIIINNN THE UEFA CUP forget the past just look to the present and future.........................
COYB

Dave McK
38 Posted 19/02/2008 at 21:33:36

or Mikel Madar!!
Danny Williamson ??!

Paul Coldock
39 Posted 19/02/2008 at 21:48:20

1.Southall

2.Unsworth
3.Ball
5.D Watson
6.Lescott

7.Kanchelskis
11.Limpar
4.Arteta
8.Pienaar

9.Ferguson(1st)
10.Yakubu

Subs: Howard, Yobo, Jagielka, Cahill, Gravesen(1st), Campbell

This all based on performances in a blue shirt only.

Steve Williams
40 Posted 19/02/2008 at 23:56:03

Duncan

Duncan
Duncan
Duncan
Duncan

Duncan
Duncan
Duncan
Duncan

Duncan
Duncan

Subs: I suppose you’ve guessed it by now!

What?

I know he let us down so often, but in a time when our chins were on the floor and the valium was on short supply, he almost single-handedly gave us hope of better times. Winners against the big three and the RS are even rarer than an RS win against Barnsley.

Even now I can’t get as high over a Yakubu / Arteta / Johnson etc etc goal as I did over a Duncan one.

Michael, I know you will disagree but at least I’ve come back to the fold! :)

Dave Catton
41 Posted 20/02/2008 at 01:03:33

GK - Nigel Martyn.

LB - Joleon Lescott.
CB - Joseph Yobo
CB - Marco Matterazi
RB - Phil Neville

LM - Gary Speed
CM - Mikel Arteta
CM - Lee Carsley
RM - Andrei Kanchelskis

CF - Yakubu Aiyegbeni
CF - Wayne Rooney

Bench: Howard, Ball, Cahill, Ferguson, Osman.

Jay McGrady
42 Posted 20/02/2008 at 01:01:38

Cheers guys... just when I thought I had erased Carl Tiler and Peter Degn from my memory.

1. Martyn
2. Watson 5.Yobo 6. Weir 3. Lescott
7. Pienaar 8. Speed. 4. Parkinson 11. Arteta
10 Cahill
9. Ferguson

subs
Osman, Howard, Carsley, Dacourt, Campbell

Sean Condon
43 Posted 20/02/2008 at 03:30:24

Have I just read all that and really not seen Barmby?s name once ?

Martyn, Pistone, Yobo, Lescott, Matterazi, Parkinson, Kanchelskis, Cahill, Arteta, Dunc, Rooney
Somebody mentioned that Parkinson was the heartbeat of the Dogs of War. That?s how I remember it. He seemed to be getting better and better all the time. What a shame.
Thanks for mentioning Madar. That miss at Anfield is a painful memory...

Gavin Goh
44 Posted 20/02/2008 at 06:02:26

The Best without a doubt...

GK Martyn
RB
CB D. Watson
CB Gough
LB Hinchcliffe
RM Kanchelskis
CM Parkinson
CM Graveson (1st Time)
LM Arteta
FC Yak
FC Campbell

Jason Lam
45 Posted 20/02/2008 at 06:47:00

I’ll thought I’ve moved on and forgot about the drivel of yesteryear but now I’m cringing all over. Bastards.

Mike Adamson
46 Posted 20/02/2008 at 08:28:45

1. Martyn

2. Neville
4. Weir
5. Lescott
3. Hinchcliffe

7. Kanchelskis
8. Arteta
6. Speed
11. Limpar

9. Ferguson
10. Yakubu

Andy Dutton
47 Posted 20/02/2008 at 08:21:07

Well obviously there is alot of dross being picked here!!! I just can’t believe only 3 people picked Michael Ball??!!

Ball was awesome for us, at both left back and centre bcak towards the end. Also touted as our future captain and England int. Also cried when he left, a true blue!!!

Brett Bradshaw
48 Posted 20/02/2008 at 09:33:17

I cant believe there is so few mentions of Neville Southall, he would be close to if not the greatest keeper we have ever ever ever had!

Graham Jones
49 Posted 20/02/2008 at 10:31:53

Dickie Wright wasnt bad either!

Richard Harris
50 Posted 20/02/2008 at 10:51:00

In a 4-5-1 formation this team would give us all nightmares !! There were so many more names who could be included.......

Espen Baardsen

Mark Hottiger
Per Krøldrup
Tony Thomas
Carl Tiler

Stephen Hughes
Jesper Blomqvist
Alex Nyarko
Li Tie
Claus Thomsen

James Beattie

Subs :
Li Wei Feng
Matteo Ferrari
Mitch Ward
Danny Williamson
Juliano Rodrigo
John Spencer
Stefan Wessels

Mark Willliams
51 Posted 20/02/2008 at 11:17:23

1 Martyn
2 S Watson
4 Weir
5 Lescott
3 Ball
7 Kanchelskis
6 Arteta
10 Osman
11 Pienaar
8 Rooney
9 Yakubu
Subs: Howard, Yobo, Carsley, Cahill, Ferguson.

Peter Beaddles
52 Posted 20/02/2008 at 11:25:22

Funny as all buggery some of the teams/ names put up here. Just got in from a shit of a day and this has made me laugh heartily..... keep it up... how about the best team of 30+ year old journeymen since last cup win ???

Toby Bruce
53 Posted 20/02/2008 at 11:23:32

@ Jay Cambell your team selection made me laugh indeed. Williamson, Oster, Angel, Ward, - the very thought of them makes me feel bad. Then I see Richard Harris?s selection and the nightmare continues.
I rate that side in 1996 too with Kanchelskis that finished 5th and the 2000 that got to the quater final of the FA cup. Walter had a good squad there but with Hutchinson, Barnby and Dacourt leaving things didnt take off.
Trudy made a point that in 1995 Everton may have won bcs of the absences of Man Utd players. At first I was annoyed with this comment and wanted to blast her. Then I looked at their squad ommisions: Cantona, Cole, Kanchelskis .... these are not insignificant. Then I looked at that squad they had - they are still very strong and Giggs was evil in the 2nd half. And Everton had beaten strong sides too such as Spurs and Newcastle with injuries etc. So I think Everton would have done very well with this side vs Man U whoever was in that side as the momentum was with Everton in that cup run and Man U struggled that season in the Cup (eg vs Palace) and were psyched out by one hit wonder Blackburn.

John Lloyd
54 Posted 20/02/2008 at 11:44:05

Peter B, i’ll have a stab mate (3-5-2)

Westerveld

Gough
Short
Tiler

Blomqvist
Gascoigne
Graveson (now)
Samways
Ginola

Madar
Spencer

quality front to back ha ha

Billericay Blue
55 Posted 20/02/2008 at 13:24:00

I am staggered at the number of votes Steve Watson has got. In pure ability terms demonstrated in an Everton shirt (which excludes Materazzi):

Howard

Neville
Yobo
Lescott
Hinchcliffe

Kanchelskis
Dacourt
Speed
Arteta

Rooney
Yakubu

chris Briddon
56 Posted 20/02/2008 at 14:53:48

Martyn
Watson S
Lescott
Materazzi
Watson D
Kanchelskis
Dacourt
Speed
Arteta
Ferguson
Rooney

Subs
Myrhe
Weir
Cahill
Stuart
Yak

Or

Thorstvedt
O’Kane
Phelan
Bilic
Tiler

Ginola
Thompsen
Williamson
Blomqvist

Spencer
Mark Hughes

Subs
Westerveld
Pistone
Linderoth
Gazza
Madar

Gary Roberts
57 Posted 20/02/2008 at 15:11:49

Martyn

Yobo Weir Lescott Ball

Kanchelskis Dacourt Arteta Limpar

Rooney

Yakubu

Chris Briddon
58 Posted 20/02/2008 at 15:35:08

Sorry, that was Baardsen not Thorstvedt in goal by the way.

Paul Chisholm
59 Posted 20/02/2008 at 15:52:37

1. Howard
2. Ferrari
3. Ball
4. Yobo
5. Lescott
6. Parkinson
7. Kanchelskis
8. Arteta
9. Ferguson
10. Rooney
11. Speed

12. Yakubu
13. Martyn
14. Hutchinson
15. Cahill
16. Materazi

This squad would be good enough to conquer Europe

Chris Masey
60 Posted 20/02/2008 at 16:09:39

Ben Jackson, that team is totally awesome!
But you forgot two key players. Danny Williamson and Claus Thomsen, legends! Why did we ever get rid of them!

James Newcombe
61 Posted 20/02/2008 at 17:19:12

I’m glad someone mentioned Campbell! Super Kev personally saved us from certain doom

Mike Mulhall
62 Posted 20/02/2008 at 18:03:19

Martyn
Neville (leadership)
Materazzi (best centre half for efc ive seen)
Lescott
Hinchcliffe
Kanchelskis
Parkinson (Holding roll)
Dacourt
Stuart
Arteta
Ferguson
Subs Southall, Yobo, S Watson, Limpar, Stuart
Rooney doesnt make it unfortunately just on principle, Steve Watson was unlucky, always liked him!

Mike Mulhall
63 Posted 20/02/2008 at 18:12:29

my team of twelve wasnt meant to include stuart in first eleven, he makes way for Dacourt!

Dan Parker
64 Posted 20/02/2008 at 18:18:53

Where’s Mikel Madar?

Jimmy Changa
65 Posted 20/02/2008 at 18:14:18

How on Earth was Big Nev Southall not included in every single squad here?

My fondest memory of him wasn?t even playing for us actually... it was seeing him get man of the match when Wales were beaten by a superb Dutch side 7-1. Amazing.

Jake Stone
66 Posted 20/02/2008 at 18:39:02

Martyn
S. Watson
Weir
Lescott
Ball
Kanchelskis
Arteta
Speed
Limpar
Ferguson
Rooney

Steve Connor
67 Posted 20/02/2008 at 19:18:01

You could go for relatively local Everton supporting XI ( allegedley!!) since our last trophy.

Southall

Hibbert Watson Stubbs Ball

Osman Speed Horne Baines

Rooney Jeffers

Subs

Grant
Parkinson
Vaughan
Anichebe

Scott Hazell
68 Posted 20/02/2008 at 19:31:05

Martyn

Neville
Weir
Yobo
Lescott

Kanchelskis
Speed
Carsley
Arteta

Rooney
Yakubu

Subs

Howard
Stubbs
Cahill
Ferguson
Stuart

Mark Wright
69 Posted 20/02/2008 at 19:47:31

Howard, Hibbert, Yobo, Lescott, Naysmith, Osman (Beattie 83), Neville, Carsley, Arteta (Nuno Valente 90), Cahill, Johnson.
Subs Not Used: Wright, Weir, Van der Meyde.

The team that beat the shite 3-0 :D

Paul Smith
70 Posted 21/02/2008 at 00:34:13

Why is everyone forgeting Mikel Madar???

Legend!

Paul Coldock
71 Posted 21/02/2008 at 00:31:19

Vinny Samways?

No, NO, NOOOOO!!!!

The pain...

Max Meindl
72 Posted 21/02/2008 at 05:50:46

GK Neville Southall LB Andy Hinchcliff RB Phill Neville CB Joseph Yobo CB Joleon Lescott DM Lee Carsley LM Mikel Arteta RM Andrei Kanchelskis CM Thomas Graveson (1st time) AM Tim Cahill
ST Aiyegbeni Yakubu (Not really a great yet) But we have been lean for great strikers for a very long time. Rooney was too young to consider.

Steve Callaghan
73 Posted 22/02/2008 at 10:34:56

This is, in my opinion, our best team and the team that should take on the Italians:-

Howard Lescott Yobo Jagielka Neville Pienaar Osman Carsley Arteta Cahill Yak

Yes, it looks like AJ has returned to form just at the right time but that would be my team to face City also - full of craft with plenty of options on the bench.