This very poor play on words in the title is meant to describe my delight on hearing that, as was hoped for (and maybe expected), Pienaar will sign for the Blues in the Summer.
What's made me even happier is that the fee was pre-agreed! I reckon liitle Peanut's form this season would otherwise have added at least a couple of million to the fee.
A shrewd piece of business indeed. There is little doubt he brings both guile and width to the team and was sorely missed whilst away in Africa. His return could make all the difference over the next few months both in Uefa and the EPL.
Steve Guy, Posted 23/02/2008 at 14:19:45
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1 Posted 23/02/2008 at 12:35:29
2 Posted 23/02/2008 at 15:30:33
3 Posted 23/02/2008 at 15:55:02
That’s probably why Moyes doesn’t wanna discuss it till the end of the season, as it would only distract Pienaar’s mind from his game.
4 Posted 23/02/2008 at 15:51:46
5 Posted 23/02/2008 at 16:34:47
The thing I like about his play is his eagerness to bring the ball in from the wing onto the edge of the penalty area. He also seem to track back well.
So nice to have creative options down both wings. Fingers crossed we can complete the deal in the summer. It seems like he wants to be here.
6 Posted 23/02/2008 at 17:00:56
Wait until he gets a few more games under his belt and gets fully fit as he is palying with a minor groin strain at the moment. Let's get behind all the lads for the run in which is even tighter after today's results.
7 Posted 23/02/2008 at 18:47:54
Pienaar, Fernandes and Arteta at the heart of our midfield for the next few seasons? Sounds like a Holy Trinity to me.
8 Posted 23/02/2008 at 18:57:05
However, i think before people get too carried away with plaudits over the foresight of pre-agreeing a fee; its perfectly normal to agree a future fee with a loan signing. Some loans will in fact only only be allowed with a permanent fee agreed...which helps the selling club in most cases.
Its a great deal in hindsight, but I dont think people should go overboard in thinking this is the transfer heist of the century with a rabbit-out-of-the-hat future clause.
9 Posted 23/02/2008 at 19:07:38
Fans like Trevor Hemming bore me. Always looking to have a pop at players for no particular reason. Comparing Fernandes to Pienaar is just ridiculous. None of our midfielder have been a patch on Pienaar never mind Fernandes. And yes Arteta is included in that. He’s outshone the lot of them.
Just because Fernandes isn’t playing to Pienaar’s level doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough. He is and he’s one of our best mid fielders in the squad. People need to get a grip of themselves and support the lad instead of slagging off his every move because they just don’t like him.
We should buy both in my opinion and it will more than likely cost around 10 million which is a good deal for two quality players who will boost our starting line up. Pienaar from the left and Fernandes from the middle.
10 Posted 23/02/2008 at 19:46:21
On the Pienaar - Fernandes - Arteta note, I?m desperate to see them play a few games together. With Carsley covering off the defensive duties they could be a real handful on a par with Arsenal's midfield. Please don't lose faith with Fernandes just yet - he reminds me of Arteta when he first joined, it?ll take a while for him to get into the rythm of the team.
Final word is, at least at home ? drop Cahill and play two strikers in front of those three ? what an awesome team going forward!!!
11 Posted 23/02/2008 at 20:12:30
In Pienaar we have found a player who is capable of filling the left hand side. He?s replaced Osman in that respect and has now made that position his own.
But we have been crying out for a central midfielder all season and Fernandes in my opinion is that man. People may disagree and there entitled to there opinion but given time I think he?ll come good and earn his move.
Osman was a good stop gap and always will have a place in this team/squad but I have no doubts Fernandes is the better and more natural central midfielder.
How I see it is he has only played five games and sometimes it does take a little while to settle. I don?t judge a player that early and I certainly won?t slag him off because he hasn?t been up to the standards of our most consistent midfielder Steven Pienaar.
People claiming he?s awful really do need to get real and take a look at the bigger picture. Why is he not good enough? Because he hasn?t shown his form of last season in 5 games. If thats the case then Arteta isn?t good enough and neither is Johnson who have both had indifferent seasons. I don?t think like that though. I know Johnson and Arteta are good players who are just going through a dip and not matching there standards of last season.
I hope Moyes goes 4-5-1 personally and plays the trio Fernandes, Arteta and Pienaar. We looked bright in the second half against Brann on Wednesday and that had a lot to do with there qualities on and off the ball.
12 Posted 23/02/2008 at 20:27:55
Yakubu looked poor to start with.
Jagielka looked poor to start with.
Just play Manny for a few games, in CENTRAL midfield , and he will come good.
13 Posted 23/02/2008 at 20:36:29
In any case, Manny is a quality player, anyone that knows football can see that he is a ball player. Given time, playing in his best position, he will come good. He spots a pass better than anyone else in the squad.
14 Posted 23/02/2008 at 20:45:10
For the first goal, Valente?s determination to get the ball after two tackles, passes to Pienaar, Pienaar to Cahill, Timmy with a sublime backheel to the Yak.
Number three - Howard to Pienaar, Pienaar to the Yak
Number 4 - Valente wins ball, pass to AJ, AJ to the Yak, Yak to Pienaar, Pienaar to Arteta
Number 5 - Valente throw in to Pienaar, Pienaar to Arteta, back to Pienaar, Pienaar to the Yak
When Pienaar hit the post, he started the move by winning the ball in his own half.
Number 6 - move starts with Manny and ends with a superb pass from Pienaar to AJ.
So 5 of the 6 goals involved Pienaar in either the ultimate or penultimate pass to the scorer.
Let him leave at our peril!
15 Posted 23/02/2008 at 21:03:43
Because of Tim’s and Leon’s qualities, I think 4-5-1 is as much an attacking formation for us as 4-4-2. With a bit more squad building we could have the capability to run very consistently successful campaigns for the next few years. You have to be close to the front of the race to win it, and we are on our way.
16 Posted 23/02/2008 at 22:32:32
Connor is absolutely spot on.
Manny has played 5 games with different team mates and tactics and by all accounts witha similar groin strain to the one Arteta went to Spain to be treated for.
The lad just wants to play football. He?s seen enough cynicism and shit in his young career so as Moyesy says he just needs to be loved.
17 Posted 24/02/2008 at 02:25:41
Yes we shall win on Monday.
18 Posted 25/02/2008 at 09:22:33
Manny has been played in a consistant formation and team, that can take an effect on a players performance. I can really see that Manny has the abilty of a world class midfielder, Moyes needs to get that out of him. If Manny’s not doing to good, Moyes can be easily be at fault, come guys and lets get behinf Manny!!
19 Posted 25/02/2008 at 10:12:24
Where are all those guys who at the begining of this season predicted Pienaar to be a waste of space and money? All the guys who said he'll never make it at Everton, cause of his bad season in Germany? (Why is Dutch the first person that I think of?)
I always told you this player is pure magic; that he has the ability to split a good defence; and that he was one of the best midefielders in the CL a few season back? How the critics must be eating their comments now. Connor is the only person on this website who supported Pienaar right from the start, please guys lets give players a chance? Let's put our full support behind him and Manny, and I would like Moyes to give Van de Meyde a chance (I know his a really good player).