Now I have a big question for both sides of the Stadium debate. ToffeeWeb are asking if the development of Goodison turned out to be same as moving to Kirkby, What would you choose? I know my answer, it would be to remain at Goodison.
The question from a cost perspective is how much revenue would we lose whilst the stadium is not at full capacity during the rebuild. Sure, this has been costed in by KEIOC. To the question then: Would Everton supporters welcome (during the redevelopment using) Anfield as our stadium for what really would be two seasons?
I think this would be the best solution as doing the development piecemeal is time consuming and I suggest also costlier. The die-hards would have a problem, I don-t think the new franchise owners of the RS would have a problem as they would earn from it.
The question really is would you support that type of move, which in my opinion is worth considering.
Paul Niklas, Posted 22/04/2008 at 17:12:17
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1 Posted 23/04/2008 at 06:42:16
2 Posted 23/04/2008 at 07:02:49
3 Posted 23/04/2008 at 08:29:24
4 Posted 23/04/2008 at 08:40:21
5 Posted 23/04/2008 at 09:00:07
You get nothing for free in this life and no doubt we would have to pay rent or something along the same vein, which in turn lowers our monet intake again.
6 Posted 23/04/2008 at 09:28:54
7 Posted 23/04/2008 at 09:35:24
They average about 44,000, let them have all the proceeds above our average of 37,000 for the period we are there. That would probably rake them in about £200k a game and about £5 million a season. Not bad for doing nothing. Two seasons £10 million, a free player.
Everton would take the benefit of increased hospitality money and catering.
8 Posted 23/04/2008 at 09:48:37
9 Posted 23/04/2008 at 10:30:23
10 Posted 23/04/2008 at 10:34:37
The idea of a staged or peicemeal renovation of GP is that it can be largely self funding (it may take 10-15 years, but we’ve been chimping on about moving for that amount of time already).
Double up the Park End, moving it back towards the park at the same time. All of a sudden, you’ve got a 46k capacity, better corporate facilities and an enabling development on the corner (say, the 1878 Hotel and Conference Centre, overlooking the birthplace of football in the City - with room on the ground floor for a football museum and the France Collection)
The above could be done in close season and only impact a few home games in the next season. It would cost far less than Kirkby, be far less contentious, and would pay for itself relatively quickly.
11 Posted 23/04/2008 at 11:05:25
It seems strange that fans may so no to playing at Anfield again, yet I’ve heard more people support a groundshare? Very odd.
12 Posted 23/04/2008 at 11:28:48
13 Posted 23/04/2008 at 11:55:57
14 Posted 23/04/2008 at 12:26:19
15 Posted 23/04/2008 at 13:16:02
There is no practical reason why an incremental phased redevelopment of Goodison to seat 60,000 would require capacity to ever drop below 40,000 [and 48,000 in the later stages], starting with construction works BEHIND the existing Park End and Bullens Road stands.
All it needs is a commitment from the club to work in partnership with the City Council and the local community.
16 Posted 23/04/2008 at 13:25:18
17 Posted 23/04/2008 at 13:35:48
18 Posted 23/04/2008 at 14:40:15
Health and safety alone would not allow 40,000 onto a building site for a start.
The redevelopment / rebuild can be done far easier without all that and with the constraints of the existing land we currently occupy.
19 Posted 23/04/2008 at 18:44:39
Given his credentials, you would do well to read previous stuff he has posted on this site before reaching that decision.
20 Posted 23/04/2008 at 19:20:20
21 Posted 23/04/2008 at 19:30:57
From a football perspective also it would be beneficial to keep the atmosphere which you would lose in a stadium under construction.
I would still debate it would be difficult to achieve a piecemeal approach to the development due to my previous points.
The argument is not whether we can achieve it really, my point was Anfield is another option and an equally sensible one in my opinion.
We all want Goodison re developed if we can afford it, I would rather move to Anfield than stay during the work.
22 Posted 23/04/2008 at 22:58:05
They have also made a public declaration that any attempt to block will be fruitless.
Farewell my Blues.
23 Posted 23/04/2008 at 23:12:07
Please, instead of apologising for the in-eptitude of our board for not reading the wealth coming into the game or more frightening keeeping hold of the club for personal glorification mist your eyes.
There is more than no plan B or C on offer. We tied ourselves up to the most proffessional retal outlfit in the history of Britain blindly. Let us reap the rewards of gobshtres and brought(even bought) in CEO for the ruination of a once great club.