Thinking about our beloved team, would any Evertonians agree that some players play for EFC and are committed and have passion and feeling for the club, whilst others appear to be in it for pay day.
I would say that the following play because they love to play football:
Howard Cahill Johnson Osman Pinnear Jagielka Yobo Lescott Neville Hibbert Arteta Vaughan Anichebe Baines Carsley
Patty Beesley, Posted 28/04/2008 at 11:05:35
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1 Posted 28/04/2008 at 13:56:28
Professional players who actually "love" the club they are playing for are few and far between.
Matt Le Tissier was a great example but now all the players are in it for the money. Their careers are short enough as it is so they want to make as much money as they can and therefore can’t afford to be loyal unless the team in question is paying the highest wages
2 Posted 28/04/2008 at 13:55:39
Bollocks if you ask me. Every player has a different personality and and act in different ways. Thats part of football and thats part of life.
I thought Yakubu and Fernandes had decent games yesterday. Yakubu made a few mistakes yes but you could tell he was always in the game and looked like scoring alot more than Johnson did. Fernandes has been decent over the past 4/5 games and was yesterday. Despite playing out of position put a shift in and passed it well.
Gravesen maybe. He’s been known for wanting big money in the past and at this stage of his career maybe he’s looking for his last pay day. I’d still say he cared though. Yes he’s played shite when he’s played but he is trying.
There isn’t one player I could look at and say they don’t care. Some or shite and some are out of form yes but they still care and try there best.
3 Posted 28/04/2008 at 14:09:30
Re Manny, the guys been on loan at pompey, us, then signed a big deal at Valencia where it really didn?t work out, has then come back to us unfit. Despite that has just started to show some form and then gets substituted whilst the were clearly worse players on the field, is it any wonder hes not entirely comitted? are we to him?
I think Moyes said recently that he needs to feel loved, well in that case play him in the proper position, give him a contract and don?t substitute him if hes playing well!
I think in Gravesen's case it has clearly been a marriage of convenience this season, he was only ever a stop gap and will return to Celtic at the end of the season.
4 Posted 28/04/2008 at 14:41:38
If you are going down those lines what exactly do Arteta & Johnson do for their money?
5 Posted 28/04/2008 at 14:45:03
Bar none premier league footballers are a motivated by money, the better you are or the more succesfull you are = the more money you can make. Dont be fooled by badge kissers or any of them for that matter none of them have any more loyalty to this club than you have to your employer.
Even so called bohood fans stop being supportors the moment money is involved, if anyone knows that its us Evertonians.
Out of our current squad, the only one I believe when they open they’re mouth is Tim Cahill. Being lucky enough to have spent time with him he appears to genuinly be grateful for a chance to play for us & that is the most you can hope for these days.
But I honestly beleive that if an offer from one of Europes elite came in then he would be off like a shot, no danger
6 Posted 28/04/2008 at 15:10:36
7 Posted 28/04/2008 at 15:20:34
It gets misinterpreted because he?s laid back. He still cares about winning as much as anyone he just doesn?t run around like a headless chicken.
I?d rather him leading our line than Johnson anyday of the week. You win football matches by showing your abilites not running around like chiickens.
8 Posted 28/04/2008 at 15:21:54
Loyal players = falacy.
9 Posted 28/04/2008 at 15:25:56
10 Posted 28/04/2008 at 15:40:39
Harsh, maybe but that?s my take on it. That?s not to say that some players will grow to love Everton and play their hearts out for the team - the way Phil Neville celebrated yesterday was incredible. He really looked like it mattered very, very much to him. He is a professional player and I mean that in the sense that he will always give his all (his all might not be to everyone?s taste but you can?t knock him for effort).
Footballers = money, glamour, good looking wives regardless of how unattractive you may be, Peter Crouch anyone? More money, adulation (or not) and a lifestyle that we can only imagine.
Once a Blue, now a Red.
11 Posted 28/04/2008 at 16:20:10
I agree with Connor on the Yak thing also, he has been playing that way for about 40 years now :-)
12 Posted 28/04/2008 at 17:02:44
But to say that the Yak just wants to earn his salary and not put anything back is just mad. Ok so he is having a bit of a slump which i think is related to the fact the whole team is playing an average game lately. He actually played well yesterday considering.
The yak has 19 goals for us this season in all competitions. Yeah i can see your point. My god people will nit pick anything and everything nowadays.
Yeah im sure we would all love him to be banging more than that in but can’t accuse him of being lazy
13 Posted 28/04/2008 at 18:20:35
14 Posted 28/04/2008 at 18:23:42
Didn’t stop the fans loving him.
Didn’t stop him loving the club.
Or his wages.
15 Posted 28/04/2008 at 18:26:45
16 Posted 28/04/2008 at 18:45:02
Yes he was passionate.........for three games a season. Man Utd and Liverpool games usually. For the rest he looked like a man he couldn?t be arsed. A man who would attack people just to get off the pitch.
I liked Dunc when he was on his game and he was a talented player but he wasn?t a legend nor was he not in it for the money.
17 Posted 28/04/2008 at 23:04:15
Like fuck he isn’t Connor, ask anyone my age that supports Everton and at least 3/4s of them will say he was their childhood hero. If the fact that he helped inspire a generation of Evertonians whilst scoring some huge goals for us doesn’t make him a legend then I don’t know what the fuck does.
18 Posted 29/04/2008 at 00:45:05
He was a legend of the 90s. Maybe a little overrated at times but he did play some big games for us. I respect that he was a ledgend to a generation of people but he wasn’t to me.
I still disagree that he was passionate. He was passionate for about 3/4 games a season.
I respect him for keeping us up but then I respect Kevin Campbell for keeping us up. Is Kevin Campbell a legend?
19 Posted 29/04/2008 at 07:59:10
20 Posted 29/04/2008 at 08:04:07