Kevin Keegan was absolutely right yesterday when he told us what we all know ie that the Premier League is boring and that the Big 4 are miles ahead of the rest. Visit any sports shop and it is quite clear that the overwhelming amount of stock carried is that of the Big 4.
It is almost impossible to break into the Big 4; people continually having a go at David Moyes seem to miss the point; if he finishes 5th, that is the best he can do. The fact that we have taken only one point out of 8 matches against the Big 4 is not relevant,. It merely proves how good he is at garnering points from the rest.
Get used to it as it isn't going to change. I haven't always been a Moyes fan but he has done the absolute best that he can for a non Big 4 club and for that he ought to be congratulated and not criticised.
Jonathan Tasker, Posted 06/05/2008 at 08:25:40
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1 Posted 06/05/2008 at 13:51:14
Infact we?ve secured more points this season than we did when we finished 4th, so we?re moving in the right direction.
I am certainly a big Moyes fan.
2 Posted 06/05/2008 at 14:04:24
3 Posted 06/05/2008 at 14:01:54
Liverpool have NEVER challenged for a Premier League title and of the top 4 teams its Liverpool who are there for the taking.
We nearly took them this year for fooks sake.
4 Posted 06/05/2008 at 14:05:15
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7 Posted 06/05/2008 at 15:46:53
Imagine Moyes had said there was nothing he could do to catch the RS next season!! Christ!!
The man is a fool!
8 Posted 06/05/2008 at 15:45:56
Is Moyes doing an outstanding job just to keep us in 5th place with one game to go? Agree
Despite this, does Moyes still manage to frustrate, infuriate and alienate a large selection of the Goodison faithful with his dithering and defensive outlook? Agree
Overall, am I pleased with the direction he is taking us? Got to say I agree, as KK is almost right, it really is bloody hard to get up near to that top 4 but 4th is there for the taking next year if we increase the quality in the squad.
9 Posted 06/05/2008 at 15:45:26
At the moment I can only see Spurs and maybe Newcastle having that financial clout to stay there , but they need to get a decent team together to get there!- we havent got the financial clout with ageing Goodison and Kenwright not finding or doesnt want to find the right investor.
Moyes is doing a bloody good job on the tightest of budgets - but it is based on sound defensive qualities not gung ho all out attack. Spurs and Newcastle both go for the latter approach and they are currently 11 and 12th in the league. I just cant see Aston Villa, Pompey, and Blackburn having the financial clout either but I do admire Oneill’s and Hughes’s attempts at trying to put together positive footballing teams.
Moyes knows we have to get the attacking element sorted and I do believe he will push to get some playmakers in this summer and also get our full backs to support with pace , Baines and Gosling (Neville)
10 Posted 06/05/2008 at 16:41:50
The four teams, Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have bigger resources, and larger squads. In fairness to Moyes, we haven’t thrown 4th away any more than Man Utd have lost their points lead against Chelsea. We have a small squad, with key players injured and the rest of the team running on empty. The teams finishing 1-4 have better replacements and of the chasing pack only Villa are making a run, due to playing less games.
This is the modern game, and money talks. There is an article in the Daily Mail today regarding the 3 tiers of the Premier League, and we’re on course to finish top of the second tier. With the team we have, and the budgets it works to you can’t complain without rueing the whole state of football as well.
11 Posted 06/05/2008 at 17:08:53
I had to travel forty miles last Autumn in order to purchase one, mind you, It was worth the effort as once I had managed to obtain one I was genuinely pleased.
The point being, merchandisers as a whole have no problem selling big four products but when it comes to lesser teams, or what I mean by that is teams like us, in the second bracket of the league then you’re going to encounter difficulties getting what you want, although of course that is dependent of where you live in the country.
As for Mister Moyes himself, he is the marmite of the managers. You either love him or hate him, and I stand towards the former. People cannot ignore what he has done since taking over from the dour Walter Smith. In recent times we have finished sixth, fourth (and with it a shot at the Champions league) and now, while it is not a certainty, in fifth place. Better than last day relegation battles any day of the week.
The best manager at Goodison Park since Howard first time around, and although Joe Royle did the unthinkable and saved us from almost certain relegation and an FA cup victory to boot, he was never given enough time to show the supporters what could have been after the dismal 1996/97 season, which ended with Dave Watson taking over as caretaker manager.
Although it’s not going to happen any time soon, I hope the club does not show Moyes the door, or, if he decides to go elsewhere. It will be a case of two steps back rather than one forward.
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15 Posted 06/05/2008 at 18:57:08
Then, with less biased officiating too, we’d be comfortably challenging at the top already! BMAB! (BACK MOYES AND BELEIVE!)
16 Posted 06/05/2008 at 20:21:17
"It’s a funny old game"
17 Posted 06/05/2008 at 20:57:57
18 Posted 07/05/2008 at 00:10:52
Look at the top 4 in the premiership since 2003, it has been the same ones, apart from our one year in there, if you go back further Newcastle and Leeds replaced Chelsea but it was still 3 out of the now top 4, ManUre, Arsenil and The Shite always there.
Since football sold its soul to Murdoch the top 4 have pretty much been consistent, now it’s not negativity Brian, it is fact.
The top 4 are very rarely different, the only ones that have gatecrashed have been Leeds, look where they are now and Newcastle, the same, look where they are now and how much money they have spent to be in 11/12th place.
19 Posted 07/05/2008 at 06:35:46
So it can be done.