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Medium Standard Stadium

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Having read a lot of posts on the description of the Kirkby Dome as a "Medium Standard" staidium I thought it worth while posting this.

I, like everyone else, was dumbfounded to read this description in the documents submitted for planning permission. So much so I wrote to the club. I wasn't hoping for any reaction, I just needed to vent my anger and disappointment at someone. I did, however get a reply back from Ian Ross, much to my surprise.

He may just be feeding me a line, so if this is incorrect then hopefully someone with a building background can clear this up.

My main gripe was about moving to a medium stanard stadium. Mr Ross advised that this was simply a building term and only the larger stadiums are classed as a "High Standard", Wembley and Old Trafford for example.

I know we should be striving for the best but even the most ardent fan would admit to match these stadiums would be a stretch too far.
Carl Wright, Liverpool     Posted 06/05/2008 at 11:24:10

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Colin Myers
1   Posted 06/05/2008 at 14:01:09

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That’s all right then. Kirkby here we come!
Mike Bates
2   Posted 06/05/2008 at 14:09:48

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Yea I agree. Let's just settle for 5th in the league every year and a Medium Standard Stadium. After all... where's ambition ever gonna get us?
Mark Gray
3   Posted 06/05/2008 at 14:54:41

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As he well knows, Ian Ross is feeding you a load of bollocks.

But hey, you?re an Evertonian

He probably just couldn?t help himself, he is used to providing Evertonians with misleading information.
The term is ?mid range? and mid range relates not to the size or capacity of the stadium but to the quality and the cost spent per seat

Here is what the planning documents say about how Kirkby stacks up against other stadia such as Huddlesfield Towns

We are actually spending less in comparison to stadiums built for lower league teams in 1994!!

Don?t be fooled, Kirkby will be a poor quality stadium.
Gavin Ramejkis
4   Posted 06/05/2008 at 16:27:13

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Did he sign the reply Ian Ross or Gerard Madden?
Brian Baker
5   Posted 06/05/2008 at 16:37:52

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As they say, you pay your money and you take your chances!

Those of you who think we can afford a first class stadium (in building terms), please raise your hands!

?Medium class? is a building term, don?t be fooled by its meaning.

The only stadiums in the country you can classify as ?First class? (in building terms)are the new Wembley Stadium, the Mileneum stadium in Wales, and the Emerates stadium in London. Its all about the standard of facilities and seating, its not about size!
Mick Gallagher
6   Posted 06/05/2008 at 18:21:17

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I e.mailed Keith Wyness to ask what it meant and got the same reply. So... mid-range ground for a mid-table team; fucking stinks!
David Kiely
7   Posted 06/05/2008 at 18:22:20

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That reply is complete bollocks....the Tesco statement re the stadium was that it will be a "mid-range Premiership stadium" comparison with national stadiums or will put Everon in a Riverside/Stadium of Light quality environment.

Is that all he?s got left?

Simple Simon
8   Posted 06/05/2008 at 19:03:19

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Being a simple person, and unable to comprehend the finer points economics, I wonder how people expect Everton, a team hardly leaking money, to finance a stadium that would be classed as high quality?

Maybe someone will be kind enough to explain in particularly simple terms.
Tom Hughes
9   Posted 06/05/2008 at 19:44:32

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Simple Si,
One option: For the cost of Kirkby, we could easily have 1 or 2 new stands at GP that would be top of the range. One or both of the classic leitch stands preserved, all the obstructions in the upper tiers completely erradicated with new roofs to give a unique combination of traditional and contemporary on the site of the world’s first purpose built footy stadium. Some things you can’t buy!
But the point is, we were promised a top class stadium at the vote..... there was never mention of mid level anything..... how many yes votes did that contribute?
Gavin Ramejkis
10   Posted 07/05/2008 at 13:11:48

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Tom yet again nail head, well said

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