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......should be our co-efficient in next season's Uefa Cup. That puts us 50th in Europe - but that table includes United and Milan who should be in the Champions League. Based on last year's Uefa cup, this would have ranked us 11th.

EUROPE - we're back again!

And when was the last time we had successive seasons in Europe and the last time were there 3 years in 4?

Oh this is a GOOD DAY
Phil Roberts, Cloud Nine     Posted 11/05/2008 at 18:26:24

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Terry Beeken
1   Posted 11/05/2008 at 20:07:00

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Well said. I just hope Moyes gets who he wants and quickly; the longer we go without signing anyone, the harder it will be to attract our targets with the likes of the Barcodes and underachieving Spurs sniffing around all of Moyes targets as usual. COYB; IMWT.
Paul Lambert
2   Posted 11/05/2008 at 20:51:49

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Fellow blues, I have only one thing to say and that is We are going to Europe again!

ps: Is Moyes the first manager to get the mighty blues into Eurpoe two times in a row?

Another thing: who has been your best player? For me its Rodger (best English defender in the Prem).
Martin Cutler
3   Posted 11/05/2008 at 21:13:39

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Brilliant end to a brilliant season and even though it probably could have been even better (let's not dwell on that now) I still think it was BRILLIANT!

To all those fans there today..... THANK YOU, I watched it on the tele over here in the States and I have to say the atmosphere from afar was simply brilliant!

Best fans, best young manager, best defender in Lescott, fantastic season!
Garry Corgan
4   Posted 12/05/2008 at 05:33:03

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@ Terry Beeken

I wouldn’t be surprised if Moyes waits until after the Euros to buy anybody. As always there’ll be plenty of talent on show and maybe this year we’ll finally see some of it arrive at Goodison.
Albert Dock
5   Posted 12/05/2008 at 06:45:06

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I know that it’s easier to unravel spaghetti than get your head round this table but I think you’ll find that the 43.914 is from the table as of 1 May 2008.

Don’t ask me how but Newcastle are in fourteenth position compared to our fiftieth.

This table is bound to change when all games have been played. I would imagine that we will rise a little higher than our current position.

Don’t forget you have to take away all those teams playing in the Champions League which should leave us pretty high up as far as the UEFA Cup goes.
Steve Flanagan
6   Posted 12/05/2008 at 08:05:55

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In response to Paul Lambert?s question regarding European qualification. Here are the stats:

1962-63 to 1966-67 - Qualified for Europe in 5 successive seasons (the first English club to do so) under Harry Catterick.

1970-71 - Another European adventure (under Catterick again).
1975-76 - Uefa Cup qualification under Billy Bingham.
1978-79 & 1979-80 - Gordon Lee is the last Everton manager (before Moyes) to get us to Europe in successive seasons.
1984-85 - Kendall?s only European run sees the club win it?s only European trophy (so far!). However, Kendall would probably have been close to matching Catterick?s record of 5 successive seasons in Europe if it wasn?t for events elsewhere.
1995-96 - Everton finally get to Europe again under Joe Royle thanks to the last trophy won by the team.
2005-06 - Moyes breaks the top 4 - but the less said about this European run the better!
2007-08 & 2008-09 - Moyes joins Catterick and Gordon Lee and becomes the third Everton manager to obtain European qualification for at least 2 successive seasons.
Anthony Horabin
7   Posted 12/05/2008 at 08:59:51

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So technically Howard Kendall got us in to Europe twice on the trot, with the cup run and winning the Championship that year too.
Steve Flanagan
8   Posted 12/05/2008 at 09:23:04

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Technically, yes. Officially, no.
David Moore
9   Posted 12/05/2008 at 09:46:38

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Can anyone post the website which has all the coefficiants so we can look at them and study our opponents. Also I thought Manny played awesome yesterday, 2 assists and a few nice shots. He definitely needs to be bought.
Albert Dock
10   Posted 12/05/2008 at 10:28:11

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http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2008.html

This is the one that I use. But doubtless there are others. I’ll need to check if the national side’s coefficient has any bearing on it. It probably does as it is easier, for example, to win the Belgian title as opposed to the Prem. But I might be talking rubbish.
Steve Flanagan
11   Posted 12/05/2008 at 10:22:51

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You can get them at the following:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2008.html

At present, and there is still a way to go in some leagues, Everton are around 6th place in the UEFA Cup 1st round. Of the 49 teams with a greater co-efficient than Everton, only 22 of them can, potentially, enter the UEFA Cup at the first round stage, meaning that Everton will be seeded in 23rd place at worst - so a nice relaxing summer for all of us!
Phil Roberts
12   Posted 12/05/2008 at 11:32:10

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Albert

It is our co-efficient. You get either your country co-efficient or your own, which ever is the higher. As we competed this year, we get our co-efficient so no matter what happens in the CL final, it will not change.

And the reason for Newcastle above us is their performances 2, 4 and 5 years ago. They will be down to 65 for 2009-10 season and if if we go one better than this year we could be above them!
Simon Skinner
13   Posted 12/05/2008 at 18:55:42

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Phil

You are actually incorrect - our coefficient is made up of two factors, the points we have achieved over the past 5 years plus one third of the average points achieved by English teams over those 5 years.

This page : http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/ccoef2008.html

shows that the website has not yet included point for the final (even though the result is indifferent to the English average, seeing as both teams are english). Therefore our coefficient WILL increase following the final. Honest.

I’m not sure exactly how much though, because I’m not sure if a team gets an additional bonus for winning the cup.

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