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Goodbye and thanks for everything, Lee
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Lee Carsley is leaving Everton. The official site has just announced that Lee will be living and working closer to his family in the midlands. It may be that the Birmingham rumours circulating were true.
I would like to thanks Lee for his attitude, application and professionalism. He has been admired and critisised over the past few years, yet has shown great consistency and has been fundamental to the success of the blues when playing 4-5-1.
He has played his role protecting the back 4, breaking up play and winning back possession very well. Not a glamourous task, but one well performed. The influence on our defensive record is clear to see.
I would have liked him in the squad next year without needing him to play 40+ games, but I think he still has a lot to offer. Age may be catching up on him, but I don't think his performances this year have been any less energetic or important to last year, when he was one of the players of the season.
He will be missed, and there is now an even biiger hole to fill in our midfield, with 3 players who can improve our first team now required.
Thanks Lee and all the best
Michael Jones, Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:18:40
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2 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:09:44
Some will say we should have retained his services as a squad player but in fairness to Lee that isnt what he needs at this stage of his career. It can also be seen as a positive as he said himself if Moyes was looking to bring 3 or 4 midfielders then Lee would have to consider his options.
Good luck Lee and thank you!! Altogether now "who put the ball in the red shites net......"
3 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:22:28
All the best for the future Lee and thank you for the years of service.
4 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:40:32
And truly a fine season to depart for him, leaving us with the memories of a true Everton dog-of-war
5 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:45:19
6 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:49:37
How many times did he get us possession; how many oppostion attacks did he thwart? I guess he will not be revered like a Peter Reid or Trevor Steven, but we are gonna miss you Cars.
And for that goal against the other lot. I saw it in a central London pub surrounded by bloody Reds. What a moment and again against the Reds, making Reina look like a right dope. Icing on the cake. I was in main stand for that one and what a laugh when I met up with me red brother at the Halfway House afterwards.
Thanks a lot!
7 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:53:49
Knowing Moyes, he has his targets and plan in place. Also knowing Moyes, we will end up signing a couple of players after pre-season have started and in a last desperate attempt, we will sign another on-loan, one week before the start of next season. Leaving us a player short as usual.
Hoping to be proven wrong....
8 Posted 19/05/2008 at 12:16:51
I think he is off to Birmingham where there are reports of him being offered a bumper pay deal to help them back in the Prem.
Sad to see Carsley go, but in the interest of progress, I would be happy with this so long as someone comes in to replace him, that player being at least equal but hopefully better.
9 Posted 19/05/2008 at 12:22:04
However, with his departure it is sure to me that we are going to buy a quality or even 2 quality defensive midfielders because we could not last a season with Pip in that position. I think that Fernandes is an absolute formality now and maybe even Bradley to follow.
But well done to Cars and good luck with your future career.
10 Posted 19/05/2008 at 12:27:15
11 Posted 19/05/2008 at 12:34:28
12 Posted 19/05/2008 at 13:33:35
13 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:23:52
Manny may well end up back with us, though can he do the same job? No.
What we need now is someone with experience to fill the hole in midfield.......I wonder what Mr A Van Der Meyde is up to next season?!
14 Posted 19/05/2008 at 13:27:05
So now there is no more "will he sign for one more year", he is gone so something has to happen in midfield, ever more important. I think his leaving will be more pivotal to our squad/team progression than anything else this off-season, because he gave 100% and made the most of his career with us, unlike many many other players either here or at any other clubs. Let's see what happens now...
15 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:10:59
16 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:26:03
17 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:16:56
Lee really made the role his own and was a throw back to a bye gone age of hard footballers who would put their foot in were it hurts, never shirk a challenge and never ever roll around on the floor after being caught. He was a man’s man, a player’s player, and deserves his status as an Everton Cult Hero.
He’s one of a few select bunch of players who have properly had the majority of fans on his back, who have made top 5 lists of players to axe, and still got on with it and won every single last one of them over. I have nothing but respect for the man.
The injury he suffered in 2005 should have been the end of him. You don’t suffer carerer threatening injuries like that at 30+ and recover, but Lee did. I was amazed that he still threw himself in were it hurts and still never thought twice.
Lee would be the first to admit he was no Zidane, but to say he was of little skill is a diservice to the great man. He knew his limitations and he knew there were more technically gifted players on the team and he played to his own strengths.
Without Carsley, Arteta would not have shined, Gravesen would never have been bought by Madrid and Pienaar and Osman would not have had the freedom to play the exciting football we all crave.
I am glad Carsley is going now. I don’t quite think that the cracks were starting to show in his game just yet. I don’t think that the legs have startedto go, but there have been a couple of glimpses and I for one want to remember Lee in his pomp, not turning to my mate and commenting that perhaps its time. Lee was too great a servant for that.
I hope Lee gets the last payday he deserves. I hope he signs for West Brom, just so he can get that final reception at Goodison.
As for us, we move on, we need to find a new younger model. Moyes has lost the last player who was here before him. The fact that he stayed so long shows just how vital a player he was. Goodbye Lee and goodluck
18 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:43:35
I am very much hoping that we sign Lorik Cana and certainly not Diarra who we have been linked with today. He is a Bouba Diop type.
19 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:49:05
20 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:55:51
21 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:49:20
His proffessionalism, attitude, workrate and most of all his ability to break up opposing attacks was fantastic at times.
His performances were often overshadowed by the flair of Arteta or the goal scorers like Lescott, Yak, and Ossie.
His importance to the team was underlined for me when other players like Jags and Neville tried and ultimately failed to fulfill his role. No-one understood the role better than Lee.
His passing was never the best, but his commitment was always 110% and for that I will miss him most. I just hope it isn?t like the Alan Stubbs transfer Mk 1 and we lose not only his contribution on the pitch but his leadership in the dressing room.
Whoever comes in to fill his boots will have to be some player. I just hope we bring in somebody who will prove to be a leader, and a good team player, with excellent ability to read the game.
Good Luck At Birmingham Lee.
22 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:00:01
As much as I like Cana we will not sign him. If he leaves he’s looking at moving to a bigger club in the Champions League.
23 Posted 19/05/2008 at 15:50:19
THAT GOAL AGAINST THE SHITE
Thankyou Lee and good luck
24 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:13:02
25 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:14:09
As I'm sure Moyes is aware, we now need serious midfield reinforcements, hopefully 2 quality central midfield players and maybe another on loan.
26 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:16:57
27 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:08:54
I’ve just heard, and I was mildly surprised by the news - I thought Moyes might like to keep him as insurance. But that’s it now. So many people have said in these posts that this is where the strengening is needed and DM must have a very good idea of how he wants to do it. Cars is perhaps the best example of of the way Moyes can develop a player. The next step can’t be to start all over again.
Significant signings must be announced in the next few days - mustn’t they?
28 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:47:56
Just one to throw out there as theres no football to debate: Who would you have in your team ? Lee Carsley or Joe Parkinson?
29 Posted 19/05/2008 at 16:38:14
More than a few people have mentioned Carsley being an integral part of the team and the 4-5-1 system in particular. In fact, he was so important for us I reckon his name must have been ’first on the team sheet’, to use a cliche, after Howard. So it must have been really tempting for Moyes to keep him if only to have this option open to him for a bit longer.
But we should see it as a positive move I think, despite the fact that we’ve lost a good player (i don’t care about his ’technical limitations’ - it takes skill do do what he does). Even after a great season, i think a lot of us noticed that the last couple of months had started to catch up with him and Moyes had to make the move at some point so why not now when player can still get a decent move for himself and Moyes has the time and (dare I say it? probably not) the money to replace him properly.
We’ll notice his value once he goes. We just need to find a new Cars...
30 Posted 19/05/2008 at 17:34:01
Personally I am sorry to see him leave - he is a player who whilst he had his limitations - and every player does - even Ronaldo- he has certainly showed his value to Everton over these last 6 years. He is a lot more skilfull than many give him credit for - check out the 2004-05 season DVD - and not just for THAT goal - he had a couple of other moments from free kicks that if other players had scored them comentators would be drooling with superlatives. I hope DM makes a replacement a top priority - we certainly missed him when he was injured in 2005-06.
It?s probably not stretching a point to say that Lee was one of those players we didn?t really go overboard in noticing when he was in team - but one who we certainly missed when he was injured/out of the team.
Good luck to him for the future.
31 Posted 19/05/2008 at 18:03:58
What a great servant this guy has been to us, definitely undervalued in my opinion. To add to that, by all accounts he’s a top bloke. Always thought he’d be a good bloke to go for a pint with.
Wish him all the best for the future, just a shame he had to go to the other Blues. Sure he’ll do a great job in the championship next season
32 Posted 19/05/2008 at 18:30:33
It says a lot about him that he has moved to help his wife with their disabled child rather than selfishly do what was only best for him.
GOOD LUCK, LEE. You were a star for us and I wish you all the best.
33 Posted 19/05/2008 at 18:48:07
34 Posted 19/05/2008 at 19:06:44
35 Posted 19/05/2008 at 19:17:43
36 Posted 19/05/2008 at 19:49:37
I really hopes that he and Birmingham win some silverware next season, like the Championship, so he can go out in the style that he deserves.
37 Posted 19/05/2008 at 19:51:04
38 Posted 19/05/2008 at 20:22:35
A model professional to the end. You knew exactly when to move on. You will be sorely missed by us all but good luck with the family and thanks for years of great service.
39 Posted 19/05/2008 at 20:27:26
wonderful service, I?ll never forget the way Goodison exploded against the shite, brilliant brilliant memories Cars lad, be happy!
40 Posted 19/05/2008 at 20:43:55
Sentimentality aside, I do think that it is mutually beneficial for both parties that he does move on - but having said that, I’m sad to see him go.
If he really is moving on for family reasons as has been stated, it just empahsises what a top bloke he really is.
With Gravesen gone as well, there’s only Johnson left of the old baldy brigade.
41 Posted 19/05/2008 at 20:46:44
Birmingham City have got a talented footballer and a top man.
42 Posted 19/05/2008 at 20:37:14
Lee, thanks for everything you did for my team. You helped me hold my head up many a Sunday morning. Best of luck to you lad.... I?ll have a pint for ya!!! Cheers!
43 Posted 19/05/2008 at 20:59:02
44 Posted 19/05/2008 at 21:26:16
45 Posted 19/05/2008 at 22:57:29
The goal in the derby (and subsequent pile-up celebration) plus the brilliant free kick against Newcastle at St James?s are two great moments to remember.
46 Posted 19/05/2008 at 23:39:33
Thank You.
47 Posted 19/05/2008 at 12:52:14
A great pro and a great character, Carsley has contributed so much more to the cause than anyone who rated him no more than the latest addition to the Walter Smith Home for Ageing Journeymen (aka EFC) could ever have expected when he arrived. Didn?t he sign up alongside that most exciting of foreign prospects Toby Linderoth? Funny to think that, if I remember right, back in spring 2002 I was pretty thrilled to imagine our mysterious new Swedish import developing into a top Premiership performer in the coming years. Where is Toby now? where was he back then more like?!! Stefan Rehn anyone?
Aside from the importance of his performances on the park, interviews with players and backroom staff in recent years indicate that Lee was among the most popular members of the dressing room and it is to be hoped that this aspect of his impact on the team?s success will not be too sorely missed as well. Carsley?s departure leaves a gaping void in our winning system which will not be easy to fill. It speaks volumes about how important the lad has become to our team that we?ll all be monitoring transfer developments with an added degree of concern this summer to see who Moyes brings in to replace him.
The man deserves immense respect and gratitude from us all for the spirit, consistency, determination and ability to pop up with a crucial goal or two along the way - who could forget THAT derby strike! ? that he has shown in the Royal Blue these past six years and here?s hoping the next chapter in his career is a successful one.
Thanks again, Cars.
48 Posted 20/05/2008 at 00:14:20
He seemed to be a great motivator in the dressing room and was just an all round good guy. His charity work and discipline off the field were things to be admired too.
Finally, I'd like to applaud him for making the decision based on the need to sepnd more time with his family... especially his son who has Downs... reminds us all that life has more dimensions to it than just the game.
There isn't another Evertonian that I'd want to meet more than Cars... As he continues on his journey, I'd like to say... THANK YOU, LEE FOR ALL YOU HAVE GIVEN US.. AND ALL THE VERY BEST TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE FUTURE!
P.S: Can still feel the eruption of joy as he scored against Liverpool in the Derby win!!!!
49 Posted 20/05/2008 at 03:09:31
50 Posted 20/05/2008 at 07:14:47
51 Posted 20/05/2008 at 12:41:01
Thanks for your loyal service Lee and also the goal in the Derby, what a magical moment!
Good luck to you and all your family and hope to see you back in the Premier League in 12 months time!
52 Posted 20/05/2008 at 12:10:49
Not that you can put Carsley in the same mould as David Ginola, athough at the time of his signing he was classified as a mediocre midfielder in the twighlight of his career at best.
I wonder what Smith and most Everton fans would have said if you told them that Carsley would stay for another 6 years and be one one the most influential midfielders at the club for some time. They all probably would ask you for some of what you had been snorting.
Is this really the end of an era and beginning of a new one? Everyone in the squad is now a player of Moyes own choosing. You really can say now that this is David Moyes own team.
Will we now start winning some silverware and really start a new era?
53 Posted 24/05/2008 at 01:45:37


1 Posted 19/05/2008 at 11:05:35