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Joao Alves de Assis Silva
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This kid is supposed to be a cracking player - there's some good footage of him on Youtube that's worth a look, even if we're not supposed to be talking about this kind of..... speculation..... apparently DM has had dealing with his 'people' in the past so this could be a goer, even if only on some sort of loan-type deal.
James Marshall, Posted 20/05/2008 at 09:58:47
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Michael Kenrick
To clarify, if a player's been linked, (eg, this kid), then let's hear what you know about him. What we'd prefer not too hear about are the unfounded wish-list FM variety who have not been linked.
Connor Rohrer
1 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:07:44
1 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:07:44
Never seen him to be honest. Its promising that where being linked with 20 million players but its more than likely bollocks most of the time.
I’d rather not spend 20 million on an unproven striker playing in the Russian league to be honest.
I’d rather not spend 20 million on an unproven striker playing in the Russian league to be honest.
Mike Allison
2 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:03:30
2 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:03:30
In particular, what type of striker is he? Would he be a replacement for Johnson or does he play a more creative, deep lying role like Rooney or a favourite target or ours, Arshavin?
This would affect who else we should be looking at as its in midfield where our numbers are low.
This would affect who else we should be looking at as its in midfield where our numbers are low.
James Marshall
3 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:12:04
3 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:12:04
Well to be honest, until today I’d never heard of him!
Had a look at a few Youtube vids, looked him up on Wiki and he looks pretty good to me - tall, rangy, strong looking, seems to be able to score from anywhere, both feet, headers, takes penalties, scores from inside and outside the box - he’s only 21 and looks to have ’the lot’
Youtube him and watch some of the CSKA Moscow vids of him to see what I mean - he’s also been called up by Brazil which surely says something.
Had a look at a few Youtube vids, looked him up on Wiki and he looks pretty good to me - tall, rangy, strong looking, seems to be able to score from anywhere, both feet, headers, takes penalties, scores from inside and outside the box - he’s only 21 and looks to have ’the lot’
Youtube him and watch some of the CSKA Moscow vids of him to see what I mean - he’s also been called up by Brazil which surely says something.
Rob Chan
4 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:16:59
4 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:16:59
The 21-year-old Brazilian forward currently plies his trade in Russia with CSKA Moscow where he?s been a revelation. The striker has scored 30 goals in 52 matches for his club which has led to him being linked to both Arsenal and Manchester City in the past. His form in the Russian capital also led to a call-up for the Brazilian national side but he?s since reportedly fallen out with Dunga the Head Coach. The 6 ft 3 forward has been playing for CSKA since 2005 after moving from his first club Corinthians where he scored 13 goals in 81 games. He has since become hot property with AC Milan reported to have tracked his progress over the past 2 seasons. Jo has also won his fair share of silverware after picking up one title, 2 cups and 2 Super Cups whilst in Moscow. He is now set to finally get his lucrative big money move to Western Europe, well, at least he will if Moyes gets his way.
Jason Broome
5 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:11:40
5 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:11:40
Not too keen on this kid to be honest. So he has had one good season in the Russian league - so what! Before that who was he?
Moyes’ history of signing strikers is poor. Only Yakubu has been worthwhile. If the rumour is true then this has disaster written all over it.
You Tube only shows you extremely one sided highlights. This kid’s highlights look no better than Benjani’s or Bent’s.
I would hate to think that Agard is keeping this kid on the bench in a few years.
Moyes’ history of signing strikers is poor. Only Yakubu has been worthwhile. If the rumour is true then this has disaster written all over it.
You Tube only shows you extremely one sided highlights. This kid’s highlights look no better than Benjani’s or Bent’s.
I would hate to think that Agard is keeping this kid on the bench in a few years.
David Mills
6 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:29:13
6 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:29:13
Gotta love wikipedia:
"Jô was then said to have a bust up with national team coach Dunga and has said he will not play for Brazil again, until Dunga steps down. However Dunga has stated that he will help in any form, writing letters or otherwise to the Home Office to ensure that Jô gets a work permit for his impending transfer to the lemsip factory."
"Jô was then said to have a bust up with national team coach Dunga and has said he will not play for Brazil again, until Dunga steps down. However Dunga has stated that he will help in any form, writing letters or otherwise to the Home Office to ensure that Jô gets a work permit for his impending transfer to the lemsip factory."
Stefan Tosev
7 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:28:50
7 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:28:50
Its getting really ridiculous, can someone honestly think that we will sign £20m player????
It's stated that DM will have £20m to spend and I cant see him splashing it out on only one player when we need at least 3 midfielders.
It's stated that DM will have £20m to spend and I cant see him splashing it out on only one player when we need at least 3 midfielders.
Ben Brown
8 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:31:11
8 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:31:11
Also judging on YouTube vids, I?d say he looks pretty good. Clearly scores lots of goals and likely to be more skilful than you can see in the videos. As for £18million tho, I?m not so sure. Does anyone know if he?s quick or not? If he?s not, looks more like 1£10M than £18M to me.
Jay Harris
9 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:37:34
9 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:37:34
Apparently (or allegedly) Moyes is looking to take him on loan.
He has the same agent as Fernandes who EFC seem to get on with.
He has the same agent as Fernandes who EFC seem to get on with.
Jason Broome
10 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:34:39
10 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:34:39
To be honest I am already tired of these stupid rumours. I just hope that Moyes has more reserve than some of these agents and tabloids.
We know what we need and £18 Million on this kid isn’t it.
What I would like to know is how did the Daily Mirror find out how much money we have to spend!?
"Conjecture and Speculation - the recipe of fools."
I’m staying away from this bullshit for a week. See you next Tuesday!
We know what we need and £18 Million on this kid isn’t it.
What I would like to know is how did the Daily Mirror find out how much money we have to spend!?
"Conjecture and Speculation - the recipe of fools."
I’m staying away from this bullshit for a week. See you next Tuesday!
Dave Whitwell
11 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:47:58
11 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:47:58
Have watched the you tube highlights and he does look to possess the lot, having said that like most I think £18 - £20m is a lot for someone who hasn’t played in La Liga or the premiership. If we could get him on a loan deal then great.
Incidently more speculation I know but have you seen the link for the hammers and AJ. @ £15m if theres the slightest shred of truth surely we would have to deal!
Incidently more speculation I know but have you seen the link for the hammers and AJ. @ £15m if theres the slightest shred of truth surely we would have to deal!
Erik Dols
12 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:42:18
12 Posted 20/05/2008 at 14:42:18
I’ve seen him from a seat in the stadium once and I saw him play on the telly in a live match a couple of times.
He’s a quality player and if he’s really only 21 years old (I do not mean to suggest anything with that, just that I never realised the lad was so young) he has a great future ahead of him. he thing that I worry about the most is if he can adapt to life and football in England. On the other hand, he adapted to football in Russia pretty easy seeing his goal tally and general display. He might have some adaptive problems to the quicker and more physical playing style in England in the beginning, but given enough time and in a team that matches his playing style (passing game, not too much hoofballing please!) he’ll flourish.
Ben Brown, the lad is quick. Not lightning pace-Michael Owen in his good days-like but he will outrun 90% of our players in our current squad in a short sprint.
He’s a quality player and if he’s really only 21 years old (I do not mean to suggest anything with that, just that I never realised the lad was so young) he has a great future ahead of him. he thing that I worry about the most is if he can adapt to life and football in England. On the other hand, he adapted to football in Russia pretty easy seeing his goal tally and general display. He might have some adaptive problems to the quicker and more physical playing style in England in the beginning, but given enough time and in a team that matches his playing style (passing game, not too much hoofballing please!) he’ll flourish.
Ben Brown, the lad is quick. Not lightning pace-Michael Owen in his good days-like but he will outrun 90% of our players in our current squad in a short sprint.
Erik Dols
13 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:21:23
13 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:21:23
By the way, would you guys sell AJ to the Hammers and buy Jo, provided WHU would offer about the amount we would have to pay CSKA, give or take a few millions? I know I would and I’m not even one of the AJ-bashers... Would be a shame to lose an England-international but Jo really is one or two levels above AJ...
Mark Cassin
14 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:26:48
14 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:26:48
Just wrote half an essay on here but lost the net connection!
Anyway, I started taking an interest in this guy after we were linked with Wagner Love last summer. Put it this way, Jo can score with either foot and basically from anywhere in or around the box. For a tall fellow he can also score with his head and dribble at speed. If we were to get him on loan we would have to buy him before in ended as his head would be turned by a major club.
Milan, Man City and Chelsea have been rumoured to be watching him though we apparently have had scouts there since January. Someone asked about where he appeared from, well he was with one of the largest clubs in Brazil (corinthians) when MSI sent a bunch of players there such as Tevez and Mascherano. He had a falling out with Dunga which is why he is now not a world famous household name.
Trust me, if we got him on a Fernandes type loan (and of course Fernandes too!) we would spend 20mil on him next summer--knowing we could flog him for 30mil !
Tim Vickery commented on how ace he is on the bbc web page a couple of months ago--I agree 100%.
Anyway, I started taking an interest in this guy after we were linked with Wagner Love last summer. Put it this way, Jo can score with either foot and basically from anywhere in or around the box. For a tall fellow he can also score with his head and dribble at speed. If we were to get him on loan we would have to buy him before in ended as his head would be turned by a major club.
Milan, Man City and Chelsea have been rumoured to be watching him though we apparently have had scouts there since January. Someone asked about where he appeared from, well he was with one of the largest clubs in Brazil (corinthians) when MSI sent a bunch of players there such as Tevez and Mascherano. He had a falling out with Dunga which is why he is now not a world famous household name.
Trust me, if we got him on a Fernandes type loan (and of course Fernandes too!) we would spend 20mil on him next summer--knowing we could flog him for 30mil !
Tim Vickery commented on how ace he is on the bbc web page a couple of months ago--I agree 100%.
Mike Keating
15 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:31:44
15 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:31:44
Apart from the absurd amounts involved - £18m out of a suggested war chest of £20m? - doesn?t seem to make much sense to me but then I thought the Yak was overpriced at £11m.
Tony Part
16 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:41:18
16 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:41:18
I'm not so sure about this one to be honest.
I have never really heard of him and the only way I think Moyes would contemplate signing him is the fact that he is 21 and would have a good sell on price in a few years if he turned out a player but for that price I think it would be a really risky signing on a relative unknown.
I would rather we tried the patients of someone like Tottenham for Robbie Keane or maybe Portsmouth for Defoe.
We have to convince players that Everton is the club to join but I honestly cant see this coming off unless we have £100 million to spend
I have never really heard of him and the only way I think Moyes would contemplate signing him is the fact that he is 21 and would have a good sell on price in a few years if he turned out a player but for that price I think it would be a really risky signing on a relative unknown.
I would rather we tried the patients of someone like Tottenham for Robbie Keane or maybe Portsmouth for Defoe.
We have to convince players that Everton is the club to join but I honestly cant see this coming off unless we have £100 million to spend
Michael Hunt
17 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:48:58
17 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:48:58
This is plain silly! No way will Moyes spend £18 million on a forward, when he knows it will be far more productive to get top quality in midfield. A much improved midfield will then be able to lay on way more chances for our existing forwards. Too many times our forwards where feeding on scraps this past season.
Mark Cassin
18 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:56:21
18 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:56:21
Where does it say Moyes has £20mil to spend??? Wyness said he had money to splash but wouldnt reveal how much.
Jo would be an investment even on a loan deal as it would ensure Yakubu isn't double marked.
Jo would be an investment even on a loan deal as it would ensure Yakubu isn't double marked.
James Marshall
19 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:07:28
19 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:07:28
Mark, you only have to do some ’Googling’ to find out the answers to these questions - there were reports of DM having £20m to spend 2 days ago on some sites - obviously the club wouldnt ever say they had X amount of cash to spend, but the reports are there.
Nobody has said that DM will spend £18m on one player, the likelihood is that it’ll be a loan deal if anything Michael. To say this is ’silly’ is....well.....silly!
Jo would be a great signing, and like I said earlier in the thread, as reiterated by Mark just now - the guy can score with both feet, his head, in or outside the box, has pace, is tall and strong - he has an awful lot to offer - great touch, cracking finisher with a great all round game from what I can tell. 30 goals from 52 games sounds bloody good to me.
Nobody has said that DM will spend £18m on one player, the likelihood is that it’ll be a loan deal if anything Michael. To say this is ’silly’ is....well.....silly!
Jo would be a great signing, and like I said earlier in the thread, as reiterated by Mark just now - the guy can score with both feet, his head, in or outside the box, has pace, is tall and strong - he has an awful lot to offer - great touch, cracking finisher with a great all round game from what I can tell. 30 goals from 52 games sounds bloody good to me.
David Mathieson
20 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:56:18
20 Posted 20/05/2008 at 15:56:18
Mike, where did you get £20m? Just out of interest. I would like to know if that is the amount we have to spend because where is the £12 million that was there to sign manuel ferandes also the £6 mllion intake for mcfadden so that would leave us with a war chest of £2 million for this season if my maths is correct.
If we have only £20 million to spend we are in deep deep trouble. We need to sign a defender a goalkeeper possibly a right back and 5 midfielders, maybe get rid of johnson if the hammers are in for him and sign a new striker of quality.
If we have only £20 million to spend we are in deep deep trouble. We need to sign a defender a goalkeeper possibly a right back and 5 midfielders, maybe get rid of johnson if the hammers are in for him and sign a new striker of quality.
We should have at least £30 million for Moyes to spend AT LEAST with a increased wage budget that was not full anyway due to of the size of our squad. If this money is not here where the fuck is it? I for one want to know where it has gone and whom is responsble for losing it so I can beat them up! Ha ha.
Mark Cassin
21 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:12:02
21 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:12:02
@James Marshall -- Have read the supposed £20mil in the papers. Though it is impossible the club have leaked it so it makes it impossible for the papers to even assume.
I very much hope we get Jo-inho in on loan and splash on Manny.
I very much hope we get Jo-inho in on loan and splash on Manny.
Stuart Mitchell
22 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:21:17
22 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:21:17
Why do people moan on here so much about the discussion of transfer rumours, its half the fun of the summer! Guessing who we might sign and getting excited by rumours.
As for this Brazilian, looks alot like Adebayor. Scores a lot with his head and most of his goals are down to good positioning.
As for this Brazilian, looks alot like Adebayor. Scores a lot with his head and most of his goals are down to good positioning.
James Matthews
23 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:05:27
23 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:05:27
I’ve been following this one with interest. As others have said, this lad seems to have it all and could well be leading the line for Brazil in years to come if the coach changes or he patches up his differences.
However, I think the only way we are going to get him is if we do manage to offload, say, AJ for £15m. I certainly think Jo for £3m + AJ would be a superb bit of business. AJ hasn’t really set the world alight in the last couple of seasons, not by a long stretch. He suits the level we’re at now, but he’s not the kind of player (IMO) that will help us break into the top 4.
However, I think the only way we are going to get him is if we do manage to offload, say, AJ for £15m. I certainly think Jo for £3m + AJ would be a superb bit of business. AJ hasn’t really set the world alight in the last couple of seasons, not by a long stretch. He suits the level we’re at now, but he’s not the kind of player (IMO) that will help us break into the top 4.
Brian Waring
24 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:25:46
24 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:25:46
We might as well go and put a bid in for Crouch. This Jo lad, look’s similiar to Crouch.
James Marshall
25 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:30:00
25 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:30:00
Mark - yes the papers saying we have £20m, its definately possible the club leaked the figure, exactly as all clubs do - the figure could well be double that though they?re never going to tell anyone as you, I?m sure, are fully aware!
Transfer rumours are great - I love them and agree with Stuart that its all part of the fun of the summer without football (barring Euro/World Cups), never understood why people complain about them either (barring Micheal's comments up top)
Transfer rumours are great - I love them and agree with Stuart that its all part of the fun of the summer without football (barring Euro/World Cups), never understood why people complain about them either (barring Micheal's comments up top)
Andy Hudson
26 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:29:25
26 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:29:25
I agree James, although I think £15mil is a little ambitious. I?d say £10-12 mill would be more likely. If we do go for Jo then we?d have to buy him as AJ would not be happy being 3rd choice (or 4th if Vaughan proves his fitness), so we?d definatly have to sell AJ.
I think this one seems the most exciting... however ,as with the likes of Lucho Gonzales it's most likely bullshit. Still if we managed to get him it would be amazing!
I think this one seems the most exciting... however ,as with the likes of Lucho Gonzales it's most likely bullshit. Still if we managed to get him it would be amazing!
Steve Ashton
27 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:34:46
27 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:34:46
In 5 days we’ve progressed from Gera on a free to Sidwell for £5m, to Diarra for £8m,
to Joaquin for £11m and now Jo for £18m.
By the end of the week we will be signing Messi for £55m having been linked with Kaka and Drogba along the way.
When they’ve signed then we can start creaming - or not - as the case may be.
to Joaquin for £11m and now Jo for £18m.
By the end of the week we will be signing Messi for £55m having been linked with Kaka and Drogba along the way.
When they’ve signed then we can start creaming - or not - as the case may be.
James Marshall
28 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:44:03
28 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:44:03
Steve - people like to get excited about potential signings, theres nothing wrong with that, its completely harmless and nobody here is ’creaming’ as you so charmingly put it mate! :)
Steve Ashton
29 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:48:20
29 Posted 20/05/2008 at 16:48:20
Potential signings fine no problem but we all know that there is more chance of Dixi’s second coming than us signing an £18m Brazilian starlet.
At least we do if we’re realists!
At least we do if we’re realists!
Alex Spelling
30 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:12:13
30 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:12:13
The Echo talks about loaning him but I?m sure I heard that the Prem League will institute new rules banning the ?loaning? of players owned by third parties. If this is the case I cant see us stumping up the full £18M unless West Ham give us a truckload for AJ, but aren?t they supposed to be ?tightening? their belts this summer ? £15M is a lot for a striker who only got 10 goals last season.
On the Manny score, anybody know if he is owened wholly by Valencia now?
On the Manny score, anybody know if he is owened wholly by Valencia now?
Mark Cassin
31 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:11:48
31 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:11:48
Well, Moyes has stated that he will "try to do something" with Fernandes. To me that is either;
A- Buy him
B- Loan him
C- Have no clue.
MSI have had relations with Moyes and forwards are generally more costly than midfielders. Fernandes was worth £12mil so it is plausible that Jo would be £18mil if Tevez and Mascherano are the same fee.
Of course MSI will want him out on loan so they can make a huge profit if we sign him or someone else gets him in a year.
Imagine loaning Fernandes and Jo being just the same as West Ham with Masch and Tevez.
A- Buy him
B- Loan him
C- Have no clue.
MSI have had relations with Moyes and forwards are generally more costly than midfielders. Fernandes was worth £12mil so it is plausible that Jo would be £18mil if Tevez and Mascherano are the same fee.
Of course MSI will want him out on loan so they can make a huge profit if we sign him or someone else gets him in a year.
Imagine loaning Fernandes and Jo being just the same as West Ham with Masch and Tevez.
Matthew Fearon
32 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:24:04
32 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:24:04
Please ban youtube references. Anyone can look good on youtube. Imagine what Jimmy Mac’s youtube video must look like, Scott Gemmill scored some belters, Cadamarteri, hell even Bakayoko pulled off enough flicks to look good. No more. Please.
Andy Hudson
33 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:33:52
33 Posted 20/05/2008 at 17:33:52
Alex Spelling - I remember at the time it was announced Valencia had paid £12mill for the 50% not owned by MSi. So as far as I know we’d have to buy both their half and MSI’s which probably makes the deal even harder.
Stuart Mitchell
34 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:14:08
34 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:14:08
Matthew Please quit your moaning, if you do not like youtube videos, who on here is forcing you to watch them.
I think its a great way to get an impression of a player we may never have seen before.
And I am sure Moyes uses more advanced scouting techniques, before you start on anything else.
I think its a great way to get an impression of a player we may never have seen before.
And I am sure Moyes uses more advanced scouting techniques, before you start on anything else.
Alex French
35 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:11:52
35 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:11:52
Just to clarify, Valencia own all of Fernandes.
Alex French
36 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:24:16
36 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:24:16
On the note of players, there's been no news of Van Der Meyde!! Have we got rid yet?
John Murphy
37 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:57:28
37 Posted 20/05/2008 at 18:57:28
If we can get Jo on a season?s long loan then great, but to spend £18 million on an untried youngster is not David Moyes. Also, if we can get the reported £15 million for Andy Johnson off West Ham, then we would have to bite their hands off. However, improving the midfield must be the first priority, and I hope that Manuel Fernandes signs on a permanant basis. Also a defensive midfielder is also a priority with Carsley leaving for Birmingham. Does anyone know what this Alou Diarra is like?
Lewis Abbott
38 Posted 20/05/2008 at 19:40:30
38 Posted 20/05/2008 at 19:40:30
I just dont get how this transfer makes sense....?
Why would David Moyes pay £18 million for someone in a position we don't really need to spend money on. The midfield has to be the priority this summer as we only have four midfielders in the squad at present. I would like to see manny bought, one defensive mid, and a good left winger minimum (not Downing).
Then I would also look too sell AJ as I don't think he is up too it at Everton... then look to bring someone in but still not at £18 million...
Also, buying some young talent would be good... I think Bradley would really go well in our midfield.
Why would David Moyes pay £18 million for someone in a position we don't really need to spend money on. The midfield has to be the priority this summer as we only have four midfielders in the squad at present. I would like to see manny bought, one defensive mid, and a good left winger minimum (not Downing).
Then I would also look too sell AJ as I don't think he is up too it at Everton... then look to bring someone in but still not at £18 million...
Also, buying some young talent would be good... I think Bradley would really go well in our midfield.
Paul Coleman
39 Posted 20/05/2008 at 19:47:46
39 Posted 20/05/2008 at 19:47:46
If we are going to spend £20 million then lets just get Rooney back off the mancs!
Danny Goodier
40 Posted 20/05/2008 at 20:13:09
40 Posted 20/05/2008 at 20:13:09
Whilst there is no doubting this guy's quality "in the Russian league" most of the vids I've seen of him so far suggest he scores a high percentage of goals from inside the box.... against some pretty shocking defending...
Seriously doubt Moyes will take a punt on a striker outside of the Premier League or one of the bigger European Leagues... not with funds apparently around the £20M mark. It doesn't make sense. Just because he's played for Brazil doesn't mean he's a class act..
Also I'm sure he's "part" owned by them who had Tevez at WHU... which would surely throw some kink in the works. Let's sign a playmaker!! and a Lee Cars replacement ?Alou Diarra... if he wasn't good enough for the shite... hes not good enough for us in my eyes.
Karl Masters
41 Posted 20/05/2008 at 20:32:30
41 Posted 20/05/2008 at 20:32:30
Hopefully we’ll have the forward ’ who has got it all ’ ( to quote many posters above ) playing for us next season.
But his name is no Jo, it’s James.
James Vaughan. This lad HAS got it all and I just hope he’s fit enough to prove it next season.
But his name is no Jo, it’s James.
James Vaughan. This lad HAS got it all and I just hope he’s fit enough to prove it next season.
Tony Part
42 Posted 20/05/2008 at 20:37:54
42 Posted 20/05/2008 at 20:37:54
I wouldn't have Rooney back.. He is finished and if he is not a proloific scorer in United's team then he won't be in ours. I know it was only a joke so I'm not going into anymore of that but on this Jo topic, surely it's meaning that Moyes must have buckets of cash to spend if we are getting linked to a £18 million player?
I wouldn't sell Johnson... His goals record reads 22 from just over 50 appearances so if he can get confidence back next season and get a a bit of luck with injuries then I see no reason why he can't get into double figures again. I would hate to see him join West Ham and do the business for them and the other thing we will miss badly if we sell him is the pace and workrate. Yes we have to have strikers who score goals but someone has to do the dirty work also.
Does this Jo have pace? What are his strengths? I honestly have never seen him play before but it seems Moyes has a few times.
Edd Taylor
43 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:24:19
43 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:24:19
News is Saha is leaving United? Anyones thoughts on bringing him to Goodison Park?
Sinead Barry
44 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:33:40
44 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:33:40
Yada yada yada......it?s rumour and speculation until 1st July anyway! all the gossip is driving me crazy!
Rob Jones
45 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:47:21
45 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:47:21
Sorry about this but MK stuck my mailbag article as a comment on an article from about a week ago...
Hi all I meant to put this up about Huddlestone & Hennessey on Thursday but my internet was fucked up so here it is. I went to watch the Wales u21s vs England U21s match in the hope that Rodwell or Kissock might be playing; unfortunately they weren’t so I turned my attention to Huddlestone and Hennessey and avoiding the skills of Agbonlahor and Walcott doing fuck all.
Huddlestone was decent, played a few key passes and the Big man hit the first goal of the game in a well taken penalty. Throughout the game, however, he made some fairly bad tackles and at times looked mediocre at best especially in the first half. Personal Rating = 6.5/10
Hennessey - Was kept fairly busy throughout the match only being beaten by Huddlestone’s peg and Walcotts goal which he can’t really be blamed for. He looked like a good player for most of the match and kept focused despite not being challenged through the first half. Personal Rating = 7/10
Verdict: Both would be decent signings as back up and for the future but neither would get past Howard or from what I’ve seen Michael Bradley if we sign him. Hope this helps, obviously I can’t judge them on one game but I’ve seen them on several occasions on TV and they look like good prospects for the future.
Hi all I meant to put this up about Huddlestone & Hennessey on Thursday but my internet was fucked up so here it is. I went to watch the Wales u21s vs England U21s match in the hope that Rodwell or Kissock might be playing; unfortunately they weren’t so I turned my attention to Huddlestone and Hennessey and avoiding the skills of Agbonlahor and Walcott doing fuck all.
Huddlestone was decent, played a few key passes and the Big man hit the first goal of the game in a well taken penalty. Throughout the game, however, he made some fairly bad tackles and at times looked mediocre at best especially in the first half. Personal Rating = 6.5/10
Hennessey - Was kept fairly busy throughout the match only being beaten by Huddlestone’s peg and Walcotts goal which he can’t really be blamed for. He looked like a good player for most of the match and kept focused despite not being challenged through the first half. Personal Rating = 7/10
Verdict: Both would be decent signings as back up and for the future but neither would get past Howard or from what I’ve seen Michael Bradley if we sign him. Hope this helps, obviously I can’t judge them on one game but I’ve seen them on several occasions on TV and they look like good prospects for the future.
Connor Rohrer
46 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:43:39
46 Posted 20/05/2008 at 21:43:39
"Alou Diarra... if he wasnt good enough for the shite... hes not good enough for us in my eyes."
Danny G, the shite are better than us so really that statement is wrong. You obviously haven’t seen him play. He’s far better than Carsley ever was.
He was let go by Liverpool because he had two quality midfielders infront of him in Hamann and Steven Gerrard and Houllier left.
Diarra would be a good signing for us. Strong, almost viera like figure with decent distribution.
Danny G, the shite are better than us so really that statement is wrong. You obviously haven’t seen him play. He’s far better than Carsley ever was.
He was let go by Liverpool because he had two quality midfielders infront of him in Hamann and Steven Gerrard and Houllier left.
Diarra would be a good signing for us. Strong, almost viera like figure with decent distribution.
Mark Pendleton
47 Posted 20/05/2008 at 23:16:27
47 Posted 20/05/2008 at 23:16:27
Hmm, Louis Saha. That would help us have a squad without injuries!
Mark Cassin
48 Posted 21/05/2008 at 01:35:15
48 Posted 21/05/2008 at 01:35:15
To bring us back down to earth we have had a confirmed bid of £2.4 million in for Ferrie Bodde. A 25-year-old dutchman playing for Swansea who sounds like a psycho defensive midfielder. Derby have had a £3 million bid turned down. Never heard of him until today.
David Moore
49 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:29:22
49 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:29:22
I know a player who Moyes would be able to buy really cheap and who has great potential... Michael BRIDGES not Bradley. He was a star at Leeds until he got injured and then he had a loan last year at Sydney FC and looked boss. I think he would be a good squad player who could take the step up.
Erik Dols
50 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:58:04
50 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:58:04
About Ferrie Bodde: I live in the Netherlands and have seen this lad play a fair amount of games. He never set the place alive but he palyed for a very very poor team I have to admit. His qualities are working his ass off and having a pretty good shot and pass. Although he never scored more than two goals in a season in Holland, he apparantly scored six this year for Swansea. He’s short-tempered and will get a red card each season for something stupid. He doesn’t seem to have a stable mentality.
Maybe the lad has vastly improved at Swansea or always was a better player who couldn’t get his full potential out amidst very poor colleagues at Den Haag, but for the Bodde I have in mind I think there are dozens of his type of footballer in the lower leagues in England. I’m not too excited about this link. Maybe as a squad player.
Maybe the lad has vastly improved at Swansea or always was a better player who couldn’t get his full potential out amidst very poor colleagues at Den Haag, but for the Bodde I have in mind I think there are dozens of his type of footballer in the lower leagues in England. I’m not too excited about this link. Maybe as a squad player.
Jason Lam
51 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:00:07
51 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:00:07
Smoke screens, all of them! It’s part of a ploy to sell them off to our rivals to deplete their war chests. Barton? Nugent anyone?
Whilst in the background we will more likely pick unknown untalented hardworking unpolished ’gems’ from the lower division, at cut prices of 3m for half a dozen. And if that’s too exciting for some, we’ll take another batch on loan instead in accordance to our probation policy at NSNO Ltd.
Whilst in the background we will more likely pick unknown untalented hardworking unpolished ’gems’ from the lower division, at cut prices of 3m for half a dozen. And if that’s too exciting for some, we’ll take another batch on loan instead in accordance to our probation policy at NSNO Ltd.
Robbie Kirkham
52 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:05:54
52 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:05:54
I doubt it would happen but I?d rather see us spend £18million on a top proven striker. not a brazilian who plays in Russia. I?ve heard of him but never seen him play. Same wih Arshavin, who looked good in the two games I?ve seen but would he take to the english game? If we were to sign a striker, I?d go for Ashton or Crouch.
Andy Hudson
53 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:19:11
53 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:19:11
Robbie why the hell would you buy Ashton over this guy? He’s been injured constantly since being at West Ham and would be yet another player we’d have who misses massive chunks of the season. I like Crouch but it would just encourage our defence to play even more hoofball to the lanky git!
I’d take a shit hot 21 year old brazilian talent from Russia any day over the 2 players you mentioned... even if its just for the excitement and romance of having some unknown hotshot Brazilian from Russia joining us for £18mill. How could you even begin to get excited about Ashton or Crouch?
I’d take a shit hot 21 year old brazilian talent from Russia any day over the 2 players you mentioned... even if its just for the excitement and romance of having some unknown hotshot Brazilian from Russia joining us for £18mill. How could you even begin to get excited about Ashton or Crouch?
Roy Smith
54 Posted 22/05/2008 at 08:57:38
54 Posted 22/05/2008 at 08:57:38
I'm from Norway and a huge Everton fan, not to many of us up here :P
Anyway, I have been reading all the posts in this thread and I have to say I agree with Andy Hudson. Jo, this 21 year old from brazil is amazing. I have seen him play, and hes would be a huge sign for Everton. Like Andy stated, he can score with both feet and because he's so tall, he is also very good at scoring goals with his head. Not only that, but he is a well built guy so he won't be taken out easly and he is very quick. Trust me, he is quick when he needs to be. I agree that £18M is a lot for a striker that most of us has never heard of, but if you think about it everyone started out being unknown at some point.
The key reason why Everton is going shopping is because we want to get in the top 4. If you look at our season that just finished, we had a lot of matches that ended up with a draw. We had many good chances to win a lot of these drawn matches, but our forwards/strikers could not get the ball into the net. if we were to get Jo for £18M, I do believe that we won't have so many draws this upcoming season.
We need a striker, and a class striker at that. So I say we get him, not that my vote counts. but I think I bring a valid point. Besides, if we can sell AJ for £10M as well as getting Jo from Moscow, we are well on our way to getting in the top 4. That would mean that we had £20m starting off, got £10m for AJ, bought Jo for £18m and we are still sitting there with £12m that we could spend on midfielders. In my book, that would amazing!
You also have to remember that Wayne Rooney got us £1m for winning the PL and CL.
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