"You join a club like Manchester United to win things.....I?ve managed to do that and to play in the biggest tournament in the world and to play in the Champions League final, I?m sure a lot of Everton fans, if they didn?t understand why I left at the time, I?m sure they will understand a bit more now."
Is it just me or does this just re-open old wounds which I fear will never heal? Maybe if he had of stayed he could have led us to the Champions League, what an achievement that would have been instead of joining an assembled group of all stars bought by ridiculous money to acheive the aforementioned.
And as for the remarks "Growing up on the mean streets of Merseyside, kicking balls around with his friends until long after dusk, Wayne Rooney did not fantasise about playing in a Champions League final. He jokes that, as a boyhood Everton supporter, he was more inclined to dream about winning the League Cup." That is just salt in the aforementioned wound.
Or am I just naive, bitter, delusional and need to move on? If I wasn't before (and I was) I'll be throwing even more of my support behind Chelsea.
Rich Will, Posted 21/05/2008 at 01:31:34
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1 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:30:44
No particular reason, except for the fact that I hate MU more than I hate Chelsea. But of Course as long as Liverpool is out of the final I?m happy enough.
Here?s too Chelsea and the Champions League!!
And oh! I want Chelsea to wipe those silly arrogant smiles of Ronaldo, Rooney and Alex Ferguson?s face. I wanna see them look dejected after losing in the final of the biggest CLub Competition in the world.
But of course... that?s just my dream.
2 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:33:06
3 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:11:19
So, good luck, Wayne. Yes, you broke my heart before, but now I am already at a stage that I am not interested in what you say... because now I don’t even care about you...
4 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:36:07
5 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:26:30
On the other hand, we could desperately use the money back then and it gave us the financial room to keep our best players from then on - or so I like to think at least...
6 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:46:34
7 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:50:31
So tonight, Run Fat Boy Run and help get us another 500 grand to help progress us further.
8 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:56:34
Yes Rooney is a talented player - but he also has a temper on him to put it mildly that has cost him bookings and sendings off. Hardly a good role model I think.
A fine player - but we have had many fine players over the years - and many who have set better examples than him.
9 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:00:41
10 Posted 21/05/2008 at 07:59:08
Rooney obviously still cares about EFC or he wouldn’t still be making these ’excuses’ as to why he left - he still wants Evertonians to like him.
I’m not arsed who wins the final - just delirious the RS aren’t there. Probably prefer the 500 billion off Man U above, but i am so interested in the final I’m off to a "Pike Fishing on Bassenthwaite" seminar.
PS: All sperm banks in Manchester and West London have been given three days holiday from today, as all their wankers are in Moscow.
11 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:17:18
Without his transfer fee we would be another 4 years off where we are now, minumum.
12 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:32:07
Just quietly revel in the fact after moving to the Theatre of Prawn Sandwiches that he is not (by some distance) the best player in the team.
13 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:33:32
Lets wave the white flag whenever we have to play "one of the greatest teams in modern day football" then. We are talking all of the time about breaking Sky 4 but I fear that with this kind of attitude we will never manged it
14 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:00:50
Why bother with him, he?s not worth it and I think we are doing pretty well without him.
15 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:02:59
I will support anything that benifits EFC above everything else and because EFC will gain cash as part of the Rooney sale in a Man U win, I am firmly in the Man U camp tonight, however strange or wrong that may feel!!!!!
16 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:11:56
Would we have even finished fourth if Rooney had stayed with us during the 2004-05 season? Somehow I doubt it because selling Rooney really rallied the players that were here into doing something special, the squad of players that finished fourth was never in a million years good enough but they rallied in many ways to put two fingers up to Rooney.
Look at Rooney's last season in 2003-04... we finished with our lowest ever points total, we won one away match all season and got hammered nearly every other week. When Rooney was at Everton it was just that... The Wayne Rooney show... We had shit else around in terms of quality and once we sold Radzinski we sold our remaining goal threat. What else did we have in the way of potential attacking talent? Nothing at all.
Now look at our position and look back to then. I say to myself it was nice while it briefly lasted but sorry Wayne, we are all enjoying watching Everton much more these days.
17 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:56:50
IMHO, Rooney was one of the greatest talents to sport our blue jersey during my short time on this earth, he came at a time when we really were crap, and gave us some pride on the pitch with his skills and bulldog attitude. He went absolutely mental everytime he scored for us and so did I. The fact that he was produced by our very own youth system gives me further pride.
As to how an 18-year-old boy was manipulated or brainwashed (his agent, $$, WAG, Stubbs even!?) is forgiveable in my book. I wouldn?t hold a grudge against any other 18-year-old who?s just starting out life in the brutal workforce, would you? FFS you need to forgive, if only to continue living.
The lad gave a big bouquet at the site of the Rhys Jones murder. Did his agent tell him to do that? The lad?s a blue but cannot admit it in this commerical world.
I have been thinking whether Moyes would give Rooney a much freer role in the Second Striker position in the now EFC side. He looks so peripheral to Ronaldo, like a bridesmaid. Oh well, we?ve moved on to green pastures.
Still, got stick it up to those arrogant bastards, Chelsea!
18 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:56:32
Good luck to the bloke, no player is bigger than the club - if you want Chelsea to become more successful than us then go ahead and support them tonight; personally I want Utd to stuff em - why? Because Utd are already way more successful than us and are likely to stay that way. Chelsea have hardly won anything in comparison to us, and them winning tonight would just make them think they?re even more ?above us?
Chelsea represent everything that's wrong with football today, Utd do as well to a degree but moreso with Chelsea.
It's Utd all the way for my money.
19 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:51:12
The money we made has got us where we are now and for that I’m grateful - but not to Rooney - he should have begged to be part of this club.
His lack of class and humility beggar belief sometimes. You only have to see the respect that Benjani showed to Portsmouth when he scored for City against his old club to see the gulf in grace.
I think with better PR, thick-as-shit Rooney may have got away with breaking our hearts, but the damage has been done now and I doubt we’ll ever see him in a blue shirt again, however successful we are in the future.
We all need to get over it.
20 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:04:32
Good deal for the blues although I think we could have squeezed a bit more out of them. It still bloody hurt though.
21 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:38:11
22 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:54:43
23 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:01:48
He is not an Evertonian and gave up that right with his badge kissing antics.
It's not a lack of maturity, it's a lack of CLASS.
Labone, Dean, Ball, Hickson, Kendall, Harvey, Young, West etc ? fucking CLASS and forever loved.
24 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:10:42
Alan Codd, well said mate, well said.
25 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:06:44
26 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:19:32
27 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:39:30
28 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:52:24
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum!!
29 Posted 21/05/2008 at 12:30:38
If I had one wish of my fellow Evertonians it would be that we stop rooting ourselves in the past nursing our grievances ? the future is what matters and Wayne is not part of that so let it go and move on. Really.
As for tonight, I want United to win because it?s good for us ? every penny will be gratefully received and wisely spent by a manager who is looking forward and not back. And it?s time some of our fans did the same.
30 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:10:49
As already said, he is dense and is clueless with regards to what he says but I would never doubt he is an Evertonian through and through.
The way he reacts when he scores is down to the fact we still have some bitter people in the stands singing about him still. Stop singing about him and let him know that we simply do not care about him anymore.
Thanks for the money, Wayne, but you are nothing to us now but a chance of some extra dough if you do well.
31 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:29:01
Quite frankly, yes! End of.
32 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:13:05
Nobody can begrudge anyone for moving on, but it?s the manner in which they do it and how they treat you after. Rooney has failed miserably at both but the latter reason seems to be getting bandied about the most. It will something that always haunt him I feel; he made his bed and he can lie in it. He will be remembered as a Manchester Utd great, not an Everton great. I know which I?d prefer to be.
33 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:03:55
34 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:53:31
35 Posted 21/05/2008 at 14:54:33
How stupid must the Rooney clan feel when they attend Old Trafford for games and have to listen to the anti-Scouse songs for the whole 90 minutes? Rooney is a twat but Moyes must take a huge slice of the blame. I mean, Wayne Rooney, automatic choice for England and the Mancs but not good enough to start for DM's Everton... Makes ye wonder, doesn't it?
36 Posted 21/05/2008 at 14:46:04
Looking back he was streets ahead of us, he was very young and has proved, very ambitious ......... Good luck to the lad. Utd to win as it will pay for a good few annual salaries of our younger players I suppose. I would imagine he probably still is a Blue deep down - his family can?t all have suddenly converted surely?
Let's move on eh?
37 Posted 21/05/2008 at 14:54:42
38 Posted 21/05/2008 at 15:19:35
39 Posted 21/05/2008 at 15:47:21
this country has ever produced when you can drop him to the bench game after game then play him on the wing when you think he deserves a go.
Face up to it Moyes has got no man management skills what so ever.If he did have then maybe we might of gotten another season or two out of Rooney.Totally blameless thats what Moyes is Patty.
40 Posted 21/05/2008 at 15:47:21
Face up to it, Moyes has got no man-management skills whatsoever. If he did have then maybe we might of gotten another season or two out of Rooney. Totally blameless ? that's what Moyes is, Patty.
41 Posted 21/05/2008 at 15:55:15
42 Posted 21/05/2008 at 15:45:27
43 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:03:36
44 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:15:37
1. Wayne leaving, has helped this club and the sucess we are enjoying now has a lot to do with the money earned from the sale.
2. £1 million for EFC if MUFC lift trophy on top of the £500,000 already earned as a result of them winning the title. I know who I want to win!
3. Wayne will one day return to EFC and he is already starting to try and calm things down.
I am sure most Evertonians would welcome him back!!! He is a class player.
45 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:38:16
46 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:58:20
Living in Manchester and working in Salford, I still get it off them all the time about Rooney and I still refer to him as that fat little granny shagging judas, because that’s what he is. I truely hope his hip injury prevents him playing tonight.
47 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:58:47
Really? You actually hate another human being who happens to play football for a team different to the one you support?
And we wonder why we get called bitter.
Sad. Truly truly sad.
48 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:05:44
49 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:10:47
When will people ever understand that not only do journos bend, twist and distort facts they also lie.
Probably trebles all round in El Vinos tonight.
50 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:27:47
Sadly, it ended up working to ManU’s benefit in the end more than our’s!
Rooney let us down by not signing a new contract and staying for one more year, we’d have been able to get more cash then.
Still, if he wins tonight he’ll have won the lot at ManU and if he decides to run his contact down with them and come back to us on a Bosman then I may forgive him! Especially when he partners Vaughan in a few years time in terrorising the mancs on route to winning Everton’s (and Merseyside’s!) first Premier League title! Ah, the stuff of fantasies...ain’t it grand! COYB!
51 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:03:16
52 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:36:31
"I?m sure a lot of Everton fans will understand a bit more now. You grow up dreaming of games like this..."
Not true! Though he won?t be aware of it, sentences like "You grow up dreaming of playing in games like this..." are just more insidious, Sky bullshit (like ?Super Sunday?). I can almost hear a Richard Keays saying it. But as I say, it?s not true.
As an Evertonian growing up, my ONLY dream was playing for Everton (well, apart from the later dreams that Involved Indrid Pitt, Madeline Smith and a fist-full of bog roll)... Did I dream about playing in an FA Cup Final? Maybe.... but NOT for Manchester United. Did I dream about playing in the European Cup Final? Possibly... but NOT for Manchester United.
I can honestly, hand on heart, say, that in ANY football dream or fantasy I had as a kid (or worryingly.. now) I?m wearing a blue shirt (the 69-70 one)
Maybe it?s a generational thing, maybe it?s a Sky thing. Rooney is (obviously) a product of a combination of things. His Family, his environment and the times we live in. I don?t really blame him for speaking shite (he?s a thick as shite, so I expect... thick as shite). However, I?m suprised at how dumb those around him MUST be.
Someone should have said to him when he went to United, "Wayne, want to make your life a little easier?" ? and then tattooed on his head, twice (backwards as well so he can read it in the mirror) the following sentence:
?Never say the word Everton in public..EVER?.
(puts finger to lips, adopts coy Shirley Temple expression and voice) Does that make me a bad person?
53 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:40:53
As for United I hope they win tonight coz anything they do to better the red shites history suits me fine.
And I actually think Man U play decent football besides some of Ronaldos diving and antics; I also like to think that Evertonians appreciate good football whereas the red shite don?t appreciate anything good in the game unless it?s them doing it.
Rock on United to a 2:0 win..........
54 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:44:43
"Really? You actually hate another human being who happens to play football for a team different to the one you support?"
Simplifying the situation a bit dont you think? I never really blamed Rooney about leaving, and didn?t really have any feelings about him until last season. I was a the game when we lost 4-2 after being 2-0 up, and when Rooney scored he ran up to the Everton fans and started kissing the United badge. After that, I think he?s a complete cunt.
55 Posted 21/05/2008 at 18:00:30
By the way, Mr. Marsh, Moyes won an apology from Rooney and damages for making the kind of accusations you trot out to support your increasingly desparate attempts to have a pop at DM. So even Shrek disagrees with you. Hope Moyes reads this thread and sues your ass :-)
56 Posted 21/05/2008 at 18:46:12
After what he did on Alan Ball?s tribute day he can kiss my arse the scruff.
God bless William Ralph Dean, Brian Labone & Alan James Ball true giants of Everton Football Club.
His agent must be congatulated actually he must be the only man who has made a local born footballer with great talent hated by both sets of supporters.
Never will you be welcome back at EFC, never will you be allowed to roam freely around Liverpool again ? but I supposed that?s what you always dreamed of wasn?t it Wayne??
Total idiot he is.
57 Posted 21/05/2008 at 18:31:29
By the way, I hope they both fucking loose tonight!!!!!!!!! COYB.
58 Posted 21/05/2008 at 18:52:47
59 Posted 21/05/2008 at 19:21:48
If he were to win the CL tonight and realise that he made a mistake, I would have him back tomorrow!
Once a Blue, always a Blue!
60 Posted 21/05/2008 at 23:28:45
61 Posted 21/05/2008 at 23:27:09
Boy, if ever there was a god of justice, wouldn’t it be nice to rub that last sentence in his podgy scrawny face. I try not to be bitter when it comes to ex-players, but I’d written him out of our history years ago by his attitude to us.
In all honesty, is it me or does he remain a shadow of the player he looked like he would become with us, all those years ago? Some great goals for the Manure, but I had him down as one of the potential all-time greats - yet for both for club and country he still seems that elusive step away from world class (such as Ronaldo etc.). I’d like to think Fergie has coached some of the potential out of him that Davey might have brought out - but perhaps it’s more about the fame and money which young players get these days. In the end he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but I hope he realises that if he’d only won one trophy with us he’d have been immortal forever - yet with the Manure I wonder whether in years to come he’ll be thought of as being a true legend along with the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Rio and Pretty Boy? Just a thought?
62 Posted 21/05/2008 at 23:21:36
63 Posted 22/05/2008 at 00:36:22
I really don’t think Rooney has done it for me for a while now with United; and you can’t deny that we all watch out for him either live on Sky or on the highlights on MOTD! He isn’t anywhere near what we all expected him to be is he?
I know he is fucking ugly, overweight and possibly over rated; but the one thing in his life that upsets the balance is his gobby, talentless bird, Colleen! If Wayne is the pig shit thicko of footy, then Colleen is the pig shit thicko of WAGS! You don’t hear about John Terry’s bird or even Ronaldo’s missus spending sickable amounts of wedge on clothes and holidays just for the sake of rubbing it into the average but loyal football supporters faces!
Pair of Twats!
64 Posted 22/05/2008 at 01:23:50
I think he must get pissed off when Ronaldo gets all the accolades and attention from the Manc fans when he himself (Gooney ie) was considered to be their next big thing! My arse bleeds for him.
65 Posted 22/05/2008 at 08:02:18
So I salute you Wayne Rooney... Thank you for your talents and for the money they subsequently brought our beloved club. May those talents continue to fade into the wilderness and may you continue to make less and less of an impact on football matches around the world as demonstrated in your piss poor showing last night!
66 Posted 22/05/2008 at 10:27:29
Since he?s gone we?ve reached new levels and to go beyond that we need money - not some jug eared fat judas like him. I?ll never understand why he turned down £50k a week to play for his ?boyhood club?. It?s not about trophies its about the badge you wear and the honour that bestows on you. Someone like him simply has no right to carry the emblem ?Nil Satis Nisi Optimum?.
The new season beckons and we?re rid of some of the old demons ? him being one of them ? we?ll find new heroes that are worthy of our adoration.
67 Posted 22/05/2008 at 10:46:26
He once played for us and now he doesn’t.
Sure, I think he acts like a prick at times and would love to think that in my next 30 years of watching us I’ll see a player with even half his talent break through our ranks who’ll this time stay and be a winner with us.
As for the badge-kissing, well, personally I think it’s a crass affectation that’s crept into the modern game that makes my skin crawl - and that includes any Everton player who does it. Besides, are you really trying to tell me Rooney doesn’t run a gauntlet of foul-mouthed abuse and obscenities from a sizeable proportion of the Goodison crowd? If you dish it out then be big enough to swallow it when it comes back at you.
But hating players? Nah, not for me - it might be some people’s idea of being an Evertonian but it isn’t mine.
68 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:46:44
"I felt I had to move clubs to develop as a footballer by playing and training with the best players in Europe while plying my trade in Europes elite cup competition. I appreciate the help, support and opportunities I received while at Everton and am grateful for the way in which they helped me develop into an exciting young footballer with lots of potential. I understand why the fans where angry as the manner in which I left was slightly sour, however, I feel the move has been vindicated and justified this season by the progress I have made and the trophies I have won. I would also like to think the money from my transfer helped Everton Football Club and my leaving also helped galvanize the players and supporters."
As I say... a sensible and intelligent person with common sense. Unfortunately, the whore shagging Shrek wanna be has no such qualities and the way in which he spouted off about Moyes and this city only goes to prove this.
He is one of the few scouse footballers that create a bond and uniform thought between Everton and Liverpool, the thought is... Both HATE him!
69 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:49:57
He seems to be very unhappy for all his talk, a marriage coming up to a gold digger who has no fame without him and desperately wants the limelight for herself. As she becomes more noticed, he seems more insecure and must be wondering when he can get back to granny whores who are not in competition with him!
In terms of him leaving EFC, that was a done deal twelve months earlier as the disgraced Stretford was trying to ensure himself of a big pay day before the FA should have removed his agent's credentials!
70 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:24:25
a)Radio Merseyside phone in - the day after he went,12 year old blue asking why Rooney has broken the heart of every blue kid in Liverpool without even an explanation.
b)Kissing the badge and sliding to their fans in front of the Park End (and me).
I cannot remember any other player ever having so much disrespect for a former club and made worse in this instance by ’Once a blue, always a blue,’ and looking after him since he was very young including at times food and school uniforms.
Unforgivable because at that point he had the opportunity to let the Everton fans know he was still a blue but went for other reasons.
There is no excuse for what he did that day - Stretford was not on the pitch with him.
He did it because he wanted to.
And until he comes out and says sorry for that action and every other time he has done it then he can simply fuck off.
Never a blue, now a Manc
71 Posted 22/05/2008 at 14:34:36
That's what United fans think of him now, the majority of comments that mention him suggest he should be replaced/dropped next season.
72 Posted 22/05/2008 at 22:45:39
When he first made the England team, i was practically bursting with pride; when he tore the European Championships apart, I was besides myself with unrestrained "that's our boy" outbursts. I saw him lift the European Cup with United last night and felt absolutely nothing, except perhaps the slightest inclination towards disdain. Because basically, he?s nothing more than a gloryhunter. Instead of battling to try and the attain the glory with his ?Beloved? Everton.. he took the silver. No loyalty, no class, and in no way a true Evertonian.
73 Posted 25/05/2008 at 19:44:45