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Very bizarre little story. I used to work with a Russian girl in Tokyo whose Dad was a top level banker in Moscow so gets the VIP tickets etc.
I e.mailed her on the total off chance whether she had any clue on these 'Jo' and Arshavin rumours and I got the following;
"Seems like your team are getting two Russians -- Arshavin/Zhirkov. Also just read on somerrussian websites that you want 3 brazilians from CSKA Moskva". (Imagine that is JO/Dudu/Love??)
Anyway I asked her if she had any first hand news on Arshavin and Zhirkov etc -- she mailed back saying her father said next week looks like there maybe a transfer to the Premier League for Arshavin and Zhirkov is on his way too.
Thats all folks -- could be us/City or whoever but seems like we are in the mix for next week. Never heard of Zhirkov but he looks ace on youtube :)
Mark Cassin, Posted 21/05/2008 at 03:35:50
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Mark Cassin
2 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:11:21
2 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:11:21
Yeah, probably a load of rubbish. Thing is that her dad is a huge football fan plus was one of the decision makers at one of the major russian banks (chairman or MD) so as you can imagine the bastard has alot of contacts --so I asked her to ask him and thats what she got on the russians.
Brazilians it looks like she just googled some russian sites!
Brazilians it looks like she just googled some russian sites!
Mark Cassin
3 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:35:13
3 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:35:13
Dudu info (yes I'm bored): 25 used to play in Japan (I've never heard of him after being there 4 years!) and Rennes before moving to CSKA 3 years ago. Was in 04 Brazil Copa America winning team.
Tim Vickery says:- Following the 2003 World Youth Cup win, the elegant Dudu Cearense was seen as the potential solution. He was taken to the 2004 Copa America, when it was evident that he was not yet ready. A career bouncing around Japan, France and now Russia has not helped, and he did himself few favours with an uncertain display against Wales
Like Carlos Alberto Parreira before him, coach Dunga gave every chance to Dudu Cearense (CSKA Moscow), an elegant passer who, it seems, is not comfortable playing so deep.
The sad fact is that Brazilian football is no longer producing this kind of player, which explains national team coach Dunga?s prolonged experiment with Dudu Cearense deeper than the more attacking midfield role he fills for CSKA Moscow.
Apparently he also said on 5live's World Football show that Dudu was desperate to join us (so says a guy in kipper).
So bored today xxx
Tim Vickery says:- Following the 2003 World Youth Cup win, the elegant Dudu Cearense was seen as the potential solution. He was taken to the 2004 Copa America, when it was evident that he was not yet ready. A career bouncing around Japan, France and now Russia has not helped, and he did himself few favours with an uncertain display against Wales
Like Carlos Alberto Parreira before him, coach Dunga gave every chance to Dudu Cearense (CSKA Moscow), an elegant passer who, it seems, is not comfortable playing so deep.
The sad fact is that Brazilian football is no longer producing this kind of player, which explains national team coach Dunga?s prolonged experiment with Dudu Cearense deeper than the more attacking midfield role he fills for CSKA Moscow.
Apparently he also said on 5live's World Football show that Dudu was desperate to join us (so says a guy in kipper).
So bored today xxx
Steve Pendleton
4 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:30:29
4 Posted 21/05/2008 at 08:30:29
I know a Japanese girl who works in Russia and she told me Riquelme?s coming. I didn?t believe her but she reckons she can seal the deal with a happy ending. Our midfield is looking unreal!!!
Mike Carlisle
5 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:02:09
5 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:02:09
My cousins social worker is the fella who used to work the dozzer puppet on Fraggle Rock.
Now he was great mates in the 80s with Bob Carolgees and Spit the Dog. It seems that Spit the Dog went for one of his big phlems in conversation one night in 1989 whilst they were out at their local Yates Wine Lodge and it sounded just like, "Everton to sign Deco".
Could just be a rumour, but you never know????
Now he was great mates in the 80s with Bob Carolgees and Spit the Dog. It seems that Spit the Dog went for one of his big phlems in conversation one night in 1989 whilst they were out at their local Yates Wine Lodge and it sounded just like, "Everton to sign Deco".
Could just be a rumour, but you never know????
Mark Cassin
6 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:17:31
6 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:17:31
Hmmm... so now the piss takers come out eh? I should have just said I asked her dad... after all his bank is where the clubs all keep their money.
Mike Carlisle
7 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:19:19
7 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:19:19
Calm down Mark. All just good natured banter ;-)
I think you should definately be crowned king of the rumour though. You’re all over the mail bag recently when it comes to transfers.
Are you Kenwright in disguise trying to lead us all down blind alleys?:-)
I think you should definately be crowned king of the rumour though. You’re all over the mail bag recently when it comes to transfers.
Are you Kenwright in disguise trying to lead us all down blind alleys?:-)
Denis Byrne
8 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:19:42
8 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:19:42
yo! Mark don?t take it so personally, your post has a touch of genius and has precipitated a much needed diversion from the incessant and incresingly dull ?stadium? and ?Moyes? debates. And a magnificent response illustrating a deep knowledge of world football that some of us divvies can only dream of ...Give us more ..
Mark Cassin
9 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:29:31
9 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:29:31
Dont worry lads not taking anything personally.... just bored out of my head.
Had a really weird day if you?re interested which started off with a trip to the dentists -- telling me I needed root canal on a loose tooth (footie injury last Monday). Had 2 job interviews this afternoon so bombed it back home only to find that the room where my girlfriend has decided to put my work clothes yesterday (don?t ask -- women always move crap around) has locked itself from the inside.
As its a new condo I spent hours trying to find a key for the door -- which didn't exist and now need a) the key b) the clothes c) the job interview.
Welcome to Mark's world :(
Had a really weird day if you?re interested which started off with a trip to the dentists -- telling me I needed root canal on a loose tooth (footie injury last Monday). Had 2 job interviews this afternoon so bombed it back home only to find that the room where my girlfriend has decided to put my work clothes yesterday (don?t ask -- women always move crap around) has locked itself from the inside.
As its a new condo I spent hours trying to find a key for the door -- which didn't exist and now need a) the key b) the clothes c) the job interview.
Welcome to Mark's world :(
Mark Cassin
10 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:40:27
10 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:40:27
By the way the best rumour I?ve heard so far is this;
A guys dad is a policemen who arrested a bunch of Latvians as illegal immigrants. They couldn?t speak English so had an interpreter present. After a while the copper starts chatting with the interpreter who says that Liverpool hire her to translate for Skrtel and Voronin and she will work for Everton in a couple of months to translate for Arshavin.
-- 2 problems, Skrtel and Voronin are from different countries and more importantly Latvia is part of the EU so they would not be illegal immigrants.
A guys dad is a policemen who arrested a bunch of Latvians as illegal immigrants. They couldn?t speak English so had an interpreter present. After a while the copper starts chatting with the interpreter who says that Liverpool hire her to translate for Skrtel and Voronin and she will work for Everton in a couple of months to translate for Arshavin.
-- 2 problems, Skrtel and Voronin are from different countries and more importantly Latvia is part of the EU so they would not be illegal immigrants.
Marc Williams
11 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:43:42
11 Posted 21/05/2008 at 09:43:42
Mike - Good post it had me choking on me cornflakes with laughter, almost as much as when that red headed shite headed in his own net a few weeks back - well maybe not that much !
Mark - Keep up the rumours lad, its keeping my entertained & if we only got one of these I’d be made up.
Word on warning though, avoid root canal work. It costs loads & never works just get it pulled & spend the money saved on ale, Japaneese girls or whatever !!!
Mark - Keep up the rumours lad, its keeping my entertained & if we only got one of these I’d be made up.
Word on warning though, avoid root canal work. It costs loads & never works just get it pulled & spend the money saved on ale, Japaneese girls or whatever !!!
Mark Cassin
12 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:03:30
12 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:03:30
@Marc -- ok so its pulled out... but I need it replaced so isn't that the root canal work there?
Tony Williams
13 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:01:13
13 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:01:13
Great speculation but the fact remains any European club with players in the Euro 2008 will wait to see what kind of Championship they have before talking transfer fees.
Just look at the previous World/Euro Cups as to how it drives the prices up. Clubs would have to be mad to sell before a ball is kicked in anger at the Euros
Just look at the previous World/Euro Cups as to how it drives the prices up. Clubs would have to be mad to sell before a ball is kicked in anger at the Euros
Shaun Nesbitt
14 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:04:25
14 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:04:25
Man city have made a £12mill bid for Arsharvin. You can now all forget about him.
James Marshall
15 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:17:44
15 Posted 21/05/2008 at 10:17:44
Look, the Jo thing is way more likely to be a loan deal - he’s owned by the same people who owned Tevez/Mascherano/Manny et al, and for them they want their players out on loan so that they can make more money - nobody ever said we’d splash out £18m on Jo.
Michael Brien
16 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:48:52
16 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:48:52
Mark Cassin - a good post - if one of these rumours work out we will end up with a good signing. Of course hope it?s Arshavin!!! But I have made a note to look out for the Russian team during Euro 2008 - any team with Gus Hiddink in charge will have more than a few players worth watching.
Ciaran Duff
17 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:51:48
17 Posted 21/05/2008 at 11:51:48
Mark,
You gotta any pictures of this Russian bird with a Brazilian? Scharf, schnarf!
Sorry mate, stoopid I know.
Just wondering if much transfer business, in general, will be done before the Euros. Given that we badly need a few players, that could make things a bit tight for us.
You gotta any pictures of this Russian bird with a Brazilian? Scharf, schnarf!
Sorry mate, stoopid I know.
Just wondering if much transfer business, in general, will be done before the Euros. Given that we badly need a few players, that could make things a bit tight for us.
Connor Rohrer
18 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:02:58
18 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:02:58
I think Moyes is scouting France and Russia. Two good leagues to have a look at in my opinion. Some gems out there, don?t get paid big wages and a lot of players would come for reasonable prices.
I?m happy that where expanding out network looking for a higher calibre of player.
I?m happy that where expanding out network looking for a higher calibre of player.
George Carroll
19 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:28:35
19 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:28:35
Mark forget the rumours just ditch the girlfriend and propose to the Russian girl. No more job interviews feet under the table Daddy in law MD of the Bank, get in son!
Steve Pendleton
20 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:25:34
20 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:25:34
Only jokes with prior post Mark. Mate, I only hope you’re on the money with your rumoured signings as you’ve got me daring to dream. Just been scarred too many times in the past with possible potential signings so it’s easier to just take the piss.
Hope Arshavin is the man. He’s gotta be crazy to look at Man Shitty with all the carry on happening in their backyard at the moment.
Hope Arshavin is the man. He’s gotta be crazy to look at Man Shitty with all the carry on happening in their backyard at the moment.
Bradley Nolan
21 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:26:19
21 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:26:19
Just heard that Dudu has landed in John Lennon Airport and is on the way to Goodison hooked up with a local tart. Turns out her fella was at a job interview so they headed back to his place only he arrives back early looking for his work clothas, so they had to lock the door from the inside. So the whole transfer is now in the balance.
Erik Dols
22 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:46:19
22 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:46:19
Bradley, thanks for letting me spill my tea over my keyboard XD
James Marshall
23 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:44:39
23 Posted 21/05/2008 at 13:44:39
Nice Bradley nice.
Arshavin Smarshavin.
Arshavin Smarshavin.
Mark Cassin
24 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:49:25
24 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:49:25
Tell you what my spare room smells at bit fishy lads -- I give it the bluekipper 3 kippers.... what's that? oh yeah it reeks to high heaven of Dudu as well.
Incidently I cant stand Russian girls, all act like cheap tarts. Japanese/Filipina/Thai or dare I say it chinese for me.
Incidently I cant stand Russian girls, all act like cheap tarts. Japanese/Filipina/Thai or dare I say it chinese for me.
Alan Clarke
25 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:55:56
25 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:55:56
Mark, are there any rumours of any rich Russians wanting to buy our club and pump billions of pounds in to it?
Mark Cassin
26 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:55:13
26 Posted 21/05/2008 at 16:55:13
As I mentioned in an earlier post, we should be looking for a left sided centre back as cover for joleon. Possibly this Jonas Olsson chap? Anyone heard of him?
Keith Glazzard
27 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:53:30
27 Posted 21/05/2008 at 17:53:30
Speaking of rich Russians, has anyone mentioned yet that it was confirmed yesterday that Abramovich’s £578m is a loan, and not a gift as has been thought. Its interest free, but it is repayable. If he wants his money back for any reason, Chelsea Limited have got 18 months to repay.
Michael Hunt
28 Posted 21/05/2008 at 19:49:05
28 Posted 21/05/2008 at 19:49:05
Re. the Abramovich loan (of over 1 billion US Dollars!) perhaps he is planning on selling the club for a big amount in future, if he achieves their objective of being the biggest club in the world by 2014, thereby getting his cash back? Ambitious aim that though and I can imagine him getting bored with the train set afore then, at great risk to the nouveaux riche West Londoners.
Maybe then our prudent stewardship will mean we get some firesale bargains from Stamford Bridge?
Ever the optimist hey!
Maybe then our prudent stewardship will mean we get some firesale bargains from Stamford Bridge?
Ever the optimist hey!
James McGlone
29 Posted 22/05/2008 at 00:09:28
29 Posted 22/05/2008 at 00:09:28
More importantly, would you???
David Gallant
30 Posted 22/05/2008 at 08:27:31
30 Posted 22/05/2008 at 08:27:31
Bradley, your skill level is high lad :) One thing is that that the senses of humour at play on this site alone sometimes makes it worth all the hullabaloo ... for every Tony Marsh there is a Bradley Nolan, thankfully. lol
Although in fairness to Tony he is pretty funny too ;)
Although in fairness to Tony he is pretty funny too ;)
James Marshall
31 Posted 22/05/2008 at 12:17:34
31 Posted 22/05/2008 at 12:17:34
The Abramovich loan thing isn’t news - the only reason people havent relaised this before is that Peter Kenyon’s ’spin’ has been in effect. He stated ages ago that Chelsea had ’no external debt’ which is still true because Ambramovich’s loan is in effect an internal debt.
Man Utd are in the same situation with the Glazers saddling them with over £600m of debt - personally I’d rather be in our position of owing less money because long term its much more sustainable.....as long as our revenue improves via succes on the pitch/ground move etc etc........a mass debate will now surely ensue.
Man Utd are in the same situation with the Glazers saddling them with over £600m of debt - personally I’d rather be in our position of owing less money because long term its much more sustainable.....as long as our revenue improves via succes on the pitch/ground move etc etc........a mass debate will now surely ensue.
Bradley Nolan
32 Posted 22/05/2008 at 12:42:21
32 Posted 22/05/2008 at 12:42:21
Cheers David, couldn’t resist, & well taken Mark.
Steve Ashton
33 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:22:23
33 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:22:23
All sounds like a load of dudu to me!
Franny Porter
34 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:25:43
34 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:25:43
I've just spunked a few hundred quid on a new season ticket for next year, unfortunately having to use my credit card.
Wonder if I can get Bully Beef Wyness to give me Mrs. a bell and claim it's just ?an internal debt?, and therefore, not to moan at me.
Wonder if I can get Bully Beef Wyness to give me Mrs. a bell and claim it's just ?an internal debt?, and therefore, not to moan at me.
Gordon Sumner
35 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:27:59
35 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:27:59
’Dudu Dudu, Dada Dada is all I’ve got to say to you’....
Dodgy 3rd party ownership issues, the ’Police’ may well have something to say about that...could even be a ’Sting’...
Oh dear...
Dodgy 3rd party ownership issues, the ’Police’ may well have something to say about that...could even be a ’Sting’...
Oh dear...
Franny Porter
36 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:39:48
36 Posted 22/05/2008 at 13:39:48
Can I also say, if we sign Arshavin, I'll eat my arse. I draw the line at Dudu though! ho ho ho, bored at work.
James Marshall
37 Posted 22/05/2008 at 14:01:26
37 Posted 22/05/2008 at 14:01:26
Can I just say that the so called dodgy 3rd party ownership thing doesn?t appear to have hampered Man Utd where Tevez is concerned ? he?s owned by the same people and theres been no issue with him since Utd took him; the only issue was with West Ham.
It's nothing new, it's just not been as high profile until West ham cocked it up.
It's nothing new, it's just not been as high profile until West ham cocked it up.
Mark Cassin
38 Posted 22/05/2008 at 14:58:50
38 Posted 22/05/2008 at 14:58:50
I have a feeling we will have a signing on monday (well a pre transfer window signing!). Does the window open on June or July 1st?
Michael Kenrick
39 Posted 22/05/2008 at 15:18:41
39 Posted 22/05/2008 at 15:18:41
James, just a small point: the Chelsea debt is internal but that is not the same as the Glazier/Man Utd debt, which is external, is it not? This is the only way to explain the debt burdens listed (or not listed) in that recent table of club valuations.
James Marshall
40 Posted 22/05/2008 at 15:41:19
40 Posted 22/05/2008 at 15:41:19
Correct Michael, the Glazers debt already existed when they bought into Utd - I was alluding more to the point that both clubs owners have saddled them with debt - something we happily don’t currently have to the same degree. :)
James Marshall
41 Posted 22/05/2008 at 15:42:42
41 Posted 22/05/2008 at 15:42:42
Oh, and the already existing debt the Glazers has/had, was/is indeed external - at least as far as Man Utd Plc is concerned.
Gary Creaney
42 Posted 22/05/2008 at 16:16:25
42 Posted 22/05/2008 at 16:16:25
Just noticed on the official site that one of the main links is to ’What the papers say.’
When you read it it opens up the story from the Daily Post that we are interested in Jonas Olsson.
Of course there is a disclaimer on there saying that any views are not that of the club.....blah blah blah, but I can never ever remember this happening before.
I think this is a way of saying we are heavily involved in trying to sign this guy without actually having to take responsibility for it if it falls flat on its arse.
When you read it it opens up the story from the Daily Post that we are interested in Jonas Olsson.
Of course there is a disclaimer on there saying that any views are not that of the club.....blah blah blah, but I can never ever remember this happening before.
I think this is a way of saying we are heavily involved in trying to sign this guy without actually having to take responsibility for it if it falls flat on its arse.
Seamus McCrudden
43 Posted 22/05/2008 at 16:22:36
43 Posted 22/05/2008 at 16:22:36
Mike that was feckin funny, read it out loud to my wife who stared at me blankly! Nice one mate, lol!
Mark Cassin
44 Posted 22/05/2008 at 17:40:25
44 Posted 22/05/2008 at 17:40:25
Heavily linked in Turkey with Arda Turan.... 21-year-old winger from Galatasaray ? on ToffeeWeb rumours and on other sites it says that we are the only club to have bid for him and he will meet us soon. Price is £10mil ? Keegan heavily linked but as yet no bid though of course Emre plays there which may attract him.
Trevor Powell
45 Posted 22/05/2008 at 18:02:28
45 Posted 22/05/2008 at 18:02:28
My wife went to Portugal once and that then means Ronaldo will be at Goodison for a medical next Tuesday as well.
Mark Cassin
46 Posted 22/05/2008 at 18:33:07
46 Posted 22/05/2008 at 18:33:07
Arda’s manager:
"There is interest from several leagues in Arda. From English Premier League no other club beside FC Everton has submitted an offer so far. A 10 million Sterling offer has come from FC Everton."
It is being said, that Everton officials and Galatasaray officials will come together in next days, and if they agree on a price the transfer could finalize within 10 days.
"There is interest from several leagues in Arda. From English Premier League no other club beside FC Everton has submitted an offer so far. A 10 million Sterling offer has come from FC Everton."
It is being said, that Everton officials and Galatasaray officials will come together in next days, and if they agree on a price the transfer could finalize within 10 days.
Mark Cassin
47 Posted 22/05/2008 at 18:39:20
47 Posted 22/05/2008 at 18:39:20
Google his name and we are everywhere;
Arda’nýn rotasý
Arda’nýn rotasý
Dave Turner
48 Posted 22/05/2008 at 20:21:16
48 Posted 22/05/2008 at 20:21:16
Ah the end of the season.
Anyway for the first time ever I have a my mate told me story... And seen as it the time of year I thought I would throw it in.
Last week about the same time as the Gera rumours I was speaking to a mate on his way to watch Cardiff play in the FA Cup final, and he ’congratulated’ me on Everton being about to sign Joe Ledley.. To which I told him to shut up and I would chat it over when it was official.
Anyway, one for the rumour mill, and well, the BBC has it at the end of this article too..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crewe_alexandra/7412494.stm
Never gonna happen is it really? Though to be fair, the lad could well have the ability for the top flight.
Anyway for the first time ever I have a my mate told me story... And seen as it the time of year I thought I would throw it in.
Last week about the same time as the Gera rumours I was speaking to a mate on his way to watch Cardiff play in the FA Cup final, and he ’congratulated’ me on Everton being about to sign Joe Ledley.. To which I told him to shut up and I would chat it over when it was official.
Anyway, one for the rumour mill, and well, the BBC has it at the end of this article too..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/crewe_alexandra/7412494.stm
Never gonna happen is it really? Though to be fair, the lad could well have the ability for the top flight.
Jo Perry
49 Posted 23/05/2008 at 06:55:40
49 Posted 23/05/2008 at 06:55:40
CSKA Moscow?s Brazilian striker Jo has arrived in England and is expected to complete a move to Manchester City despite reported interest from Everton.
Franny Porter
50 Posted 23/05/2008 at 09:40:34
50 Posted 23/05/2008 at 09:40:34
Last night I was watching Sky Sports and when Rio Ferdinand was stepping off the plane at Machester Airport, my Yorkshire Terrier (Terry) barked at the telly, twice.
Now Im not usually a believer in silly rumours but Ive seen the Dog Whisperer and I reckon we are definetly signing Rio.
Although saying that. it could also be that Terry thinks Rio is bit of a cunt.
Now Im not usually a believer in silly rumours but Ive seen the Dog Whisperer and I reckon we are definetly signing Rio.
Although saying that. it could also be that Terry thinks Rio is bit of a cunt.
John Pickles
51 Posted 23/05/2008 at 14:36:56
51 Posted 23/05/2008 at 14:36:56
Shame Jo isn’t coming to Goodison, havn’t been able to afford a name on the back of my shirt since Idan Tal was here, just hope were not linked with Vennegoor of Hesselink.
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1 Posted 21/05/2008 at 06:06:08