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Extra Game or is that money?
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It would appear that our CEO is at the forefront in demanding a 39th game overseas?! He says (in the Mail) that he hears all the fans objections but they must explore this revenue channel. Does that mean...."I hear you but get stuffed; we are going to do what we want!"?
They use a limp argument that we need to get in there before the Italians or French. How the hell can that happen if Uefa and Fifa are dead set against?? He seems to miss the point that Asia wants to watch the Prem.... not Serie A or anything else.
Still, I'm sure he cares about Everton more than anything else :-)
Ian Martin, Posted 27/05/2008 at 14:13:42
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Nick Entwistle
2 Posted 27/05/2008 at 18:10:35
2 Posted 27/05/2008 at 18:10:35
The worst idea in football period.
Any one here seen the film Basketball by Matt Stone and Tray Parker of South Park? This is the crap they were fighting against.
Any one here seen the film Basketball by Matt Stone and Tray Parker of South Park? This is the crap they were fighting against.
Nick Entwistle
3 Posted 27/05/2008 at 18:44:55
3 Posted 27/05/2008 at 18:44:55
Also, for the conspiracy lovers out there, is it not possible that the PL know full well that the thought of an extra game to the fans is abhorrent in comparison to the abhorrent suggestion of playing games abroad? So somewhere down the line they will come up with a ’compromise’ and state they will play two rounds of fixtures to keep the standard 38 game season and just so happen to double their revenue.
?We might be playing games abroad? say the fans, ?but at least it?s not an extra game?!
Let?s call it an inflated starting position.
?We might be playing games abroad? say the fans, ?but at least it?s not an extra game?!
Let?s call it an inflated starting position.
James Braid
4 Posted 27/05/2008 at 20:03:03
4 Posted 27/05/2008 at 20:03:03
Ian,
Is it important to you that Wyness "Cares about Everton more than anything else" ?
Do you expect or believe that cares about EFC more than his family? Or life itself?
He is the club's CEO, and is employed by EFC to run the business side of the club. His brief is to increase turnover and so make us more competitive as a business. And he?s not actually "demanding" a 39th game at all. He?s merely suggesting that it?s still a possibility and that it may certain merits (Like £5m quid in the club's arse pocket).
But let?s not let any facts get in he way of another opportunity to have a tedious dig at those in charge of the club. It seems to me that moaning on about ANYTHING that comes from the Boardroom has become something of an obsession these days.
Of course, I?m sure you care about Everton more than anything else.....
Is it important to you that Wyness "Cares about Everton more than anything else" ?
Do you expect or believe that cares about EFC more than his family? Or life itself?
He is the club's CEO, and is employed by EFC to run the business side of the club. His brief is to increase turnover and so make us more competitive as a business. And he?s not actually "demanding" a 39th game at all. He?s merely suggesting that it?s still a possibility and that it may certain merits (Like £5m quid in the club's arse pocket).
But let?s not let any facts get in he way of another opportunity to have a tedious dig at those in charge of the club. It seems to me that moaning on about ANYTHING that comes from the Boardroom has become something of an obsession these days.
Of course, I?m sure you care about Everton more than anything else.....
Alan Clarke
5 Posted 27/05/2008 at 20:35:16
5 Posted 27/05/2008 at 20:35:16
James, come on be reasonable. This is not having a go at Wyness for the sake of it, is it? I can’t understand why the hell is Wyness raising this issue now.
Tommy Gibbons
6 Posted 27/05/2008 at 22:09:37
6 Posted 27/05/2008 at 22:09:37
James Braid... commonsense article...
Now then.. I?m dead against a 39th game or any competetive game being played on foreign shores..(don?t mention Uefa Cup games, smart arses!) but I do agree with James that Wyness is just doing his job, especially if there is £millions on offer...
Now then.. I?m dead against a 39th game or any competetive game being played on foreign shores..(don?t mention Uefa Cup games, smart arses!) but I do agree with James that Wyness is just doing his job, especially if there is £millions on offer...
I believe more tournaments during the pre-season between Premier League clubs is the way to placate the Asian markets, along with mini-tournaments 2/3 times a season between clubs knocked out in the early rounds of the League/FA Cups. None of this is ideal, but if it's money everyone is after, Asia is the place!
John Andrews
7 Posted 28/05/2008 at 00:14:20
7 Posted 28/05/2008 at 00:14:20
How quickly some folks forget.
This is the man who labelled Kirkby "The deal of the century". This is the man who claimed we were getting a free stadium.
Yes free for £78m !
This is the man who created havoc in Aberdeen.
This man is unscrupulous. Nuff said !
This is the man who labelled Kirkby "The deal of the century". This is the man who claimed we were getting a free stadium.
Yes free for £78m !
This is the man who created havoc in Aberdeen.
This man is unscrupulous. Nuff said !
Gary Sedgwick
8 Posted 28/05/2008 at 02:26:42
8 Posted 28/05/2008 at 02:26:42
"He seems to miss the point that Asia wants to watch the Prem.... not Serie A or anything else."
Other threads harp on this issue, that it is the "Sky 4" they want to watch. If this is true why not play the games of the manipulated "Grand Slam Sunday" over there? That way none of the "4" gain home advantage levelling the playing field, Asia gets to host PL games, Asian support of the "4" increaes, Sky gets buckets of money and no supporter of any other team has to fork out loadsa money to watch their team play a supposedly meaningless game (to Sky not to followers) in a far off land.
Works for me if that is what Sky wants...
Other threads harp on this issue, that it is the "Sky 4" they want to watch. If this is true why not play the games of the manipulated "Grand Slam Sunday" over there? That way none of the "4" gain home advantage levelling the playing field, Asia gets to host PL games, Asian support of the "4" increaes, Sky gets buckets of money and no supporter of any other team has to fork out loadsa money to watch their team play a supposedly meaningless game (to Sky not to followers) in a far off land.
Works for me if that is what Sky wants...
Karl Saegaran
9 Posted 28/05/2008 at 03:32:20
9 Posted 28/05/2008 at 03:32:20
Business point of view. Imagine the number of new fans it would create around the world. The number of club merchandise sold. The increased revenue for the club. Its not true that Asia only wants the Sky 4.
Brian McToffee
10 Posted 28/05/2008 at 08:24:40
10 Posted 28/05/2008 at 08:24:40
I’m just wondering about this extra game. Who decides what the fixtures are? How can the fixtures be fair to all? If Everton have to play Villa and the RS play Hull to decide 4th position or whatever. Some relegation-threatened teams play mid table sides while others play title contenders. Or Man U play say Stoke and Chelsea play Arsenal to decide the premiership, is that right? Doesn’t seem to be feasible. I know I’d be very pissed off if Everton lost out because of some 39th game crap.
Eric Myles
11 Posted 28/05/2008 at 09:07:58
11 Posted 28/05/2008 at 09:07:58
@Karl Saegaran, I live in Asia, have done so for 20+ years in many different countries. It IS true that Asia only wants the Sky 4 as they?re the most successful teams.
Richard Harris
12 Posted 28/05/2008 at 10:47:59
12 Posted 28/05/2008 at 10:47:59
Yes, propose something so stupid or unacceptable that when a ?compromise? is offered then anyone against the original plan will feel that they?ve won! A leaked proposal to test the water and to see where the dissent is. Richard Scudamore should be kicked out for this half-brained scheme but like many other important people in football it?s all about ?exploring potential revenue streams? so that overrides any consideration for the fans. Still as long as we keep turning up on all days at all hours to suit the broadcasters, pay subs to view or go to pubs to watch then the money will keep rolling in and making the rich even richer.
Ciarán McGlone
13 Posted 28/05/2008 at 11:06:21
13 Posted 28/05/2008 at 11:06:21
The fact that every man and his dog has rubbished the idea, yet this idiot is still licking his lips at the possibility of a few extra sheckles just about says it all about the intelligence and motives of this man..
Somebody ring this fat fool a taxi! In fact, make it a bus!
Somebody ring this fat fool a taxi! In fact, make it a bus!
Graham Rathbone
14 Posted 28/05/2008 at 11:53:27
14 Posted 28/05/2008 at 11:53:27
Yes, this 39th game is a half-baked scheme to grab more money, but then again what about the lower league play offs? Surely these are also a money grabbing idea, as the team that finishes 3rd has done so on merit and should be promoted IMO. However if they have an off day they lose out to a team that maybe finished 5th.
Peter Roberts
15 Posted 28/05/2008 at 13:28:30
15 Posted 28/05/2008 at 13:28:30
"Its not true that Asia only wants the Sky 4"
As quoted directly by Karl Saegaran ? how can you say that when it?s rumoured 1 billion people, the majority in Asia, watched United vs Arsenal at the Emirates, yet no-one can quote a figure for the match between Everton vs Newcastle around the same time, or come to think of it, Derby vs Reading?
People in Asia support United, Arsenal Chelsea and Liverpool because they are the teams that get the most coverage - and hoover up the majority of all the trophies. It?s merely common sense - if Everton were to suddenly break the top 4 and dislodge any of those clubs, make no mistake about it, people would suddenly convert to us because we are the new fashionable club. Where were Chelsea before Abramovich on a global basis?
Support over there, and I?m not generalising, comes from good marketing and expansive television coverage. The Sky Four can get both. And that is simple, cold, hard truth.
With regard to the 39th game, I believe any EPL game offered to countries like Japan and China have already been rejected by the respective governments who want to focus on developing their own leagues, and this is the great barrier that will see the idea disappear, hopefully, for good.
As quoted directly by Karl Saegaran ? how can you say that when it?s rumoured 1 billion people, the majority in Asia, watched United vs Arsenal at the Emirates, yet no-one can quote a figure for the match between Everton vs Newcastle around the same time, or come to think of it, Derby vs Reading?
People in Asia support United, Arsenal Chelsea and Liverpool because they are the teams that get the most coverage - and hoover up the majority of all the trophies. It?s merely common sense - if Everton were to suddenly break the top 4 and dislodge any of those clubs, make no mistake about it, people would suddenly convert to us because we are the new fashionable club. Where were Chelsea before Abramovich on a global basis?
Support over there, and I?m not generalising, comes from good marketing and expansive television coverage. The Sky Four can get both. And that is simple, cold, hard truth.
With regard to the 39th game, I believe any EPL game offered to countries like Japan and China have already been rejected by the respective governments who want to focus on developing their own leagues, and this is the great barrier that will see the idea disappear, hopefully, for good.
Jay Harris
16 Posted 28/05/2008 at 14:25:46
16 Posted 28/05/2008 at 14:25:46
Wonder how much bonus he’s on for pushing this idiotic idea.
As previous posters have said who gets to play who?
As Tommy Gibbons said if they want more exposure abroad then tournaments during the pre-season between Premier League clubs is the way , and/or mini-tournaments 2/3 times a season between clubs knocked out in the early rounds of the League/FA Cups.
As previous posters have said who gets to play who?
As Tommy Gibbons said if they want more exposure abroad then tournaments during the pre-season between Premier League clubs is the way , and/or mini-tournaments 2/3 times a season between clubs knocked out in the early rounds of the League/FA Cups.
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1 Posted 27/05/2008 at 17:56:28