Last night, against my better judgement, I sat down to watch the England - USA game. What with the season over, and the play-offs finished, I was ready to watch any football. My main reason for watching, however, was to see if Phil 'Jaggy-Jelka' get his first England cap. Always good to see one of your own do well. Or is it?
There seems to have been a worrying trend over the years of Everton players making their England debuts only to fuck off to another 'bigger' club shortly after. The worst case being that litlle fucker Nick Barmby. Remember all the Barmby for England songs, and BK ringing up Sven asking him to give Barmby a chance. Soon as he's been in the squad for a few games, well, we all know what happened next. Perhaps the same thing could be said about Rooney and although I'm not too sure, didn't the same thing happen with Jug Ears Jeffers?
What exactly happens at these England camps that turns our players heads so much? In my opinion, I think if a manager such as Roffer likes the look of one our players. say Lescott for example (God forbid). He probably gets Gerrard to have a word in Joleon's shell-like. Perhaps letting him know that if he asks for a transfer, that he could double his money, Champions League etc etc. I am pretty confident that this is what happened with Barmby and perhaps with Rooney as well.
Taking this into account, I'd probably be happy never to see one of our players play for England again.
I'm in the Armed Forces, surrounded by people from all parts of the country, so whenever England play it's a good excuse for everyone to get down the pub and all support the same team. Recently though, some of my colleagues would not believe me when I told them I would rather see Everton win the League Cup than England win the World Cup! Also, when you see the England team on telly, there is a growing band of really unlikeable players in the squad, Rio 'Merk!' Ferdinand, Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney etc.
The more I think about it, given the reasons above, I reallly couldn't give two fucks about the national team. I for one will not be purchasing an England replica kit, St Georges flag for the car, or inflatable England chair!!
Do any other Evertonians share this apathy, or am I being too cynical?
Franny Porter, Posted 29/05/2008 at 12:28:13
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1 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:19:40
2 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:26:28
I don?t even like Rooney any more. For God?s sake it was only a friendly against the USA last night but he seemed to have a permanent scowl imprinted on hs Shrek features.
Personally I don?t think he is half the player he was when he left us.
3 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:26:24
4 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:35:12
5 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:37:38
6 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:41:10
7 Posted 29/05/2008 at 15:03:28
8 Posted 29/05/2008 at 14:58:33
Any player, regardless of his background (and yes I hate Gerrard with a vengeance!) that wears the England shirt is okay with me.........I’d prefer it if they actually came close to winning something (I think that might change peoples overall opinions) but then the same could be said of Everton.......we would support them through thick and thin but the chance of being in a final, metaphorically speaking I’d give my left arm to see that before I kick the bucket!!! And if truth be told I’d do the same for England!!! One of the greatest days of my life (and I mean that 100% sincerely) was watching England stuff Germany in ’66..............my god I’d give anything to see a performance like that in a final by England ....... or Everton!
Although I live in the States I’m English, proud of it and would love to see England (and Everton) win something!
9 Posted 29/05/2008 at 15:15:28
To me, the England team are just a load of over paid prima donnas, who I can’t relate too and act like spoilt kids (A Cole prime example!).
I would rather see Everton win 3 points let alone the league cup, than see England win anything.
10 Posted 29/05/2008 at 15:45:55
Now a more serene 35 year old I can take or leave England, I will support them in the Cups but I don’t feel anywhere near the same as I used to in my youth.
The players, as you say, are all prima donnas and I just can’t imagine myself now getting to a pub at 7:00am in the morning, like when we played Brazil anymore, to watch them.
11 Posted 29/05/2008 at 15:55:16
12 Posted 29/05/2008 at 16:10:39
13 Posted 29/05/2008 at 16:13:47
14 Posted 29/05/2008 at 16:22:54
Martin Cutler: England didn’t exactly stuff the Germans in ’66 now, did they? They did get a little bit of help from an incompetent linesman.
Three points for EFC, anyday, over anything for the sadsack national team.
Fuck Steve Gerrard. And fuck Wayne Rooney, too. Oh, ACole and John Terry, as well. What a bunch of ugly pricks.
15 Posted 29/05/2008 at 17:17:20
16 Posted 29/05/2008 at 17:14:48
For those reasons alone I will always follow Sweden above England despite the fact I own passports from both countries and claim dual nationality. Maybe it?s because Sweden are a bit like Everton today in that they will always do well but not good enough to win the big prize.
But saying that you?d rather see Everton win the League Cup than Sweden win Euro 2008 - I agree with you but I wouldn?t half love the latter almost as much as the former. Everton will always be my first love but Sweden my second.
17 Posted 29/05/2008 at 18:35:21
18 Posted 29/05/2008 at 19:04:02
19 Posted 29/05/2008 at 19:50:11
20 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:16:46
That’s because they support Norway
21 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:21:39
22 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:17:34
23 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:25:29
24 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:37:17
25 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:43:07
26 Posted 29/05/2008 at 20:52:57
27 Posted 29/05/2008 at 21:00:01
28 Posted 29/05/2008 at 23:13:44
29 Posted 29/05/2008 at 23:13:47
I don’t worry too much about that happening now that we’re a consistantly better team than we were then. Now my problem with Ingerland isn’t worrying about our players but a general distaste with the players & fans & media that surrounds them.
30 Posted 30/05/2008 at 00:08:49
As it is watching England play these days is like watching one of Walter’s worst teams = Dire.
At the risk of upsetting the RS I think Gerrard is the biggest problem.He insists on being involved in everything and does not bring other players into the game.
Who wants to watch the Stevie-me-la and shrek show certainly not me.
31 Posted 30/05/2008 at 02:32:59
Paul Heery, I was thinking the same regarding the C Ronaldo saga. A madrid fan should hold up a sign saying ’Please sign C Ronaldo’. The next thing is C Ronaldo holding up the Real Madrid shirt. I would love it if it happened.
32 Posted 30/05/2008 at 05:07:27
Secondly, dont Everton have any "overpaid, prima donna’s" - would some of the above want us to lose on that basis................
33 Posted 30/05/2008 at 11:52:22
Of the 50-odd people polled, precisely ONE member indicated he would rather England win the World Cup over Everton winning the league.
As hard as I try, I just can’t bring myself to support a team with Stevie Laaa’ in it. I just can’t do it.
34 Posted 30/05/2008 at 12:39:00
35 Posted 31/05/2008 at 18:36:07
No idea of progress whatsoever!