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Aaron Ramsey

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According to BBC sport we have had a bid accepted. However we are up against Arsenal and Man U. The only advantage I think we can offer is 1st team football right away. It could be another Alan Smith moment tho, you never know Blue Bill might pull it out of the bag, NSNO
Michael Ward, Jersey     Posted 04/06/2008 at 08:22:33

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Tony McDonald
1   Posted 04/06/2008 at 10:48:42

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What chance do we have of getting him? Apparently the others would loan him back to Cardiff for the next season, so that's good for Cardiff, but not necessarily the lad. If he goes to ManU or Arsenal, he is likely to be warming the bench for the next few years, no matter what, so surely the chance of first team action at EFC is better for him.
Jonathan Jones
2   Posted 04/06/2008 at 13:02:08

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"Everton have agreed a fee with Cardiff for Aaron Ramsey. The Bluebirds have accepted a bid of £5m from Everton for the 17-year-old midfielder."

So, is he any good?

Ant Mill
3   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:22:03

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It’s alot of money to pay for a 17 year old who is unlikely to be involved with the frist team for a good couple of years, considering our priority has to be to spend our transfer budget on improving the first team for next season. It’s good that were competing with the "big four" though. Just think that money could be used as half the fee to bring in someone like Fernandes?
Patty Beesley
4   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:33:32

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Must admit I was shocked at the £5mil price tag [ must be Fadder?s money], but he is known in Wales as being a bit of a whizz kid - has played for Cardiff first team, came on in the FA Cup final against Portsmouth and has played for Wales. Rated very highly here and Welsh players have always come good for EFC - Southall, Sheedy, Barry Horne, Pembridge etc.
Brendan George
5   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:32:37

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Well Fabregas broke into the Arsenal 1st team at 17, so if he’s quality, then it shouldn’t matter. I’d still like us to sign Fernandes as well, though. Plus a winger
Lee Penswick
6   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:34:01

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I agree with you Michael, it could just be another red herring. A token bid for a player we have very little chance of getting, considering Man u and Arsenal are after him. Also i think spending 5 mil on a prospect is a bit if a gamble, when the first team needs bulking up a lot. Dont get wrong i want us to be signing the great youngsters, just think the first team comes first.
Keith Glazzard
7   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:31:55

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It all looks too complex to put any interpretation on news reports. Accepted offers only mean permission to talk to the player, so we know nothing more than that. The Shite are involved too, and, of course, they want to offload damaged stock.

Speaking of which, if anyone ever wanted to be sure that sending a player to the England squad meant they were going to be "tapped up", ask Villa about the disgusting tale of Gareth Barry. I doubt if O’Neill has any hope of legal redress against that disgrace to the English game Beneathcontempt, but shouldn’t the FA at least be trelling their beloved Gerrard that going public to persuade a player to move just isn’t "British".

I hope Villa hold out for £20m+ and refuse to take their garbage out for them.
terry beeken
8   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:45:00

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just heard porto have been expelled from champions league next season, what price moyes goes back for lucho?
terry.smith
9   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:41:07

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Dont know what to think about this.If we do only have about £20m ish would £5m be a gamble or too much on a kid who has showed potential or should we be looking at a bigger name that knows the european circuit.If he is to come to Everton it will be down to having a better chance of getting first team games & possibly Davey Jones being a blue & ex-blue pushing him towards Everton
Shaun Nebsitt
10   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:45:22

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It?s been confirmed on the OS bout the bid. Think it?s just another phantom bid. Everton made the bid after Man U had a offer accepted. Cardiff and Ramsey should call Everton?s bluff. We wait in anticipation.
Dave Turner
11   Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:50:08

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Ramsey is probably the most sort after player outside the topflight. According to a friend who is a Cardiff fan Everton have been looking at Ramsey for a while, he reckons the kid will go to Man Utd though with Moyes switching interest to another Cardiff lad, Joe Ledley.
Nick Wall
12   Posted 04/06/2008 at 15:02:53

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What is all this garbage about ’token bids’ and ’phantom bids’ ?? The fact that we’ve made a serious and genuine offer is shown by the fact that we’ve had the offer accepted. What happens now is entirely up to the kid Ramsey and his agent - chances are that he’ll opt for Man U, but the only certain thing is that if you don’t make a bid you won’t sign the player.
Robin Cannon
13   Posted 04/06/2008 at 16:04:53

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Whether we get him or not, seems a bit early to jump to conclusions about a phantom bid. It’s very different from those instances in the past. With the likes of Alan Smith we offered *less* than had been accepted elsewhere, and at the very last minute when a deal appeared already agreed.

It’s also clear that those phantom bids were made close to the start of a new season, when there was significant pressure because of a lack of transfer activity over the summer. That isn’t the case now. So I don’t see what real benefit the club gets from a "fake" bid.

Doesn’t mean we’ll get him. But is there any reason why we shouldn’t try and go in with the big boys when it comes to transfer targets? Should we just give up instead?
James Marshall
14   Posted 04/06/2008 at 16:21:29

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It has nothing to do with whether Bill ’pulls it out of the bag’, its down to the player (and his parents/advisors!) where he goes now - Cardiff have accepted our bid, now we just have to wait.......while he signs for Utd!
Michael Ward
15   Posted 04/06/2008 at 17:50:10

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When reading BBC sport yesterday, it said Man U and Arsenal had bids accepted and another top english club was still in negotiations. I think that would have been us, for all we know we could have gone in after Man U.

I personally think that the lure of Ryan Giggs could win him over, but the loan back clause to Cardiff could work in our favour if the lad wants to be playing Premier league football straight away
Wayne Francis
16   Posted 04/06/2008 at 19:14:16

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Yeah, he shows a lot of promise from what I have seen.

But it’s just the EFC PR people pulling a fast one again - he won’t come to us, he’s prob waiting for the RS to come in with a bid, he’s a huge fan apparently...
Jonathan Tasker
17   Posted 04/06/2008 at 16:52:10

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We are reported as having put in a bid for Aaron Ramsey. This has echoes of our supposed bids last season for Alan Smith. It's an attempt to make it look as if we are trying to buy players when we have no itention of doing so. Really, if the kid has the pick of Arse, Manyoo and us, he won't be coming to us. Why does the club do this?
Alan Farrell
18   Posted 04/06/2008 at 18:03:09

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Seems like we made a formal bid. I was quite pleased to here about his because he certainly seems like an up and coming star and it shows ambition on our part to be nudging shoulders with Arsenal and Manchester Utd. Although he probably will sign for one of the latter two, he might think that there would be more opportunities for a place at Goodison? Wouldn't mind seeing him playing in blue at all, though £5 million for a 17-year-old? He'd want to be pretty good...
Tommy Gibbons
19   Posted 05/06/2008 at 01:51:28

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It really beggars belief doesn?t it...We put a bid in for a player but our supporters are outraged because of? I?m nearly speechless (well not quite) What do these supporters want? What they are actually saying is that Moyes is a prick for wanting to sign a great player... because a great player he must be if the likes of Man Utd and Arsenal want him. We?ve now given the lad a choice and we?ve shown that we will go head to head with any club within our price range.. In Moyes We Trust except of course for the doomongers!
Andy Crooks
20   Posted 04/06/2008 at 19:37:43

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So Everton (according to BBC Sport) have had a £5 million bid accepted for Aaron Ramsey. Assuming this is true, my first response was to be a little bit wary. Let's not take a chance. Time to consolidate. Let's go for the Uefa Cup once more and maybe sneak a Champions League place. Buy Bradley. Get Gera fo rfree. Be cautious, don't take a chance on someone so unproven, we can't afford to.

Then, I thought, we are Everton. If this story is true, then I see it as a serious statement of intent by Davey Moyes and Blue Bill. Why should the kid go to Man U or Arsenal and sit in the reserves for two years? He can come to Goodison, run out to Z-Cars and play in front of the greatest fans in the world. Okay, maybe he might turn out to be a dud. But in two or three years we just might have a £20 million player. I think that £5 million to show that we are once again a serious club would be money well spent. At worst, it would be a glorious mistake.

Gavin
21   Posted 05/06/2008 at 09:38:21

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As a welsh lad I can assure you guys that this lad is some player. He has a great head for his age and his skills are brilliant. Very composed and I think he would work very well with ozzy and peanut. Well worth the cash but will almost certainly go to man utd though...
Danny Broderick
22   Posted 05/06/2008 at 12:03:13

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We have to trust in Moyes on this one. He has a proven record in bringing lower league players to the club, and also introducing younger players into the team.
A lot depends on the lad himself. He’s only 17, does he really want to leave home at such a young age? If not, he may favour a move to a club that will loan him back next year.
Or does he want the chance to break into a Premier League squad sooner rather than later?
Guess we’ll find out this week. I am pleased we are at least in the running for this type of player though...
Tom Edwards
23   Posted 05/06/2008 at 12:18:48

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Perhaps I have seen too many transfer sagas but am I alone in thinking that young Ramsey will not even give us a second glance? Let's face it, the Arse and Manure's starting figure for salary will more than likely be way beyond our best offer and he will have the opportunity to take part in CL games (probably only sat on the bench, but...) from next season. And we all know that earning power is the big driver in the modern footballer's life, closely followed by top-flight European football.

I would love to see the boy in the blue of Everton, but I think we are pissing in the wind if we think we have any chance of securing his services.

Ciaran Duff
24   Posted 05/06/2008 at 00:54:55

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Apparently, Cardiff have accepted our bid as well as Utd's and now its up to the kid to decide where he wants to go. Even if he doesn't choose us, it still shows how far the club has come. Instead of selling our 16 or 17 yr old future stars, we are now looking to buy other's. We are now competing with the Manure's of the world to pick up young talent and build for the future. Also, the fact that the club is prepared to pay £5m for someone who would be earmarked for the future (similar to Gosling) shows that DM & the board are working to a long term plan of building up the quality and age of the squad. It also shows that they are prepared to be patient as that £5m may take a while to bear fruit and could easily have been spent on a short term buy.

I'll probably be accused of viewing the club with rose coloured glasses but to me it is more evidence of how far the club has come and generally how well the club is being run at present.

Michael Tracey
25   Posted 05/06/2008 at 12:18:47

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It looks as though we have had a bid accepted for young Ramsay of Cardiff! I really don't know too much about him! He must be quite decent if the other two bidders are Manure and The Arse. Do you think he would sign for us as he has more chance at first team football? If he does sign then Moyes has signed to good young sought after players in quite a short period of time (Gosling the other). Is he an exciting prospect and a good pick up?
Mark Wynne
26   Posted 05/06/2008 at 13:51:21

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Taking into account what Kevin Ratcliffe says about Everton being the best destination for Aaron Ramsey, I can't help but think this is one of those transfer smokescreens that we've got used to. Moyes is still to confirm he's staying at Everton and I can't honestly see the club buying the lad if the boss hasn't committed to the Blues for the long term.

After last year's accepted bid for Manuel Fernandes evaporating only for the Blues to sign Tommy Graveson on a season long loan (if the money was available, why didn't we splash it elsewhere?).

In reality, Ramsey will go to Arsenal or United, just in the same way that Fernandes went to Valencia last summer. Have Everton really got the money and ambition to splash out £5-6m on a young prodigy, or is it just an elaborate smokescreen to satisfy a hungry and expectant Everton public who want us to use last season's success as a springboard to another level?

Rob Jones
27   Posted 05/06/2008 at 16:35:11

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Can we stop all this babyish Manure and Arse stuff please? It just sounds unbelievably bitter and childish to me. And stop being so damn negative, what were you saying before? That’s right you were moaning because we hadn’t bid for anyone, now? How dare Moyes go for a top talent he is only allowed to go to the big 3 and if he does good it’s one less thing to moan about Goddamnit. Get your acts together while I go and get my happy pills.
Liam Fogarty
28   Posted 05/06/2008 at 18:36:13

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It may of course all come to nothing, but if this scouting report from, er, Steve Claridge is anything to go by capturing Ramsey would be a real coup. Here’s hoping...
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/05/06/scouting_report_aaron_ramsey_c.html
Jimmy Rimmer
29   Posted 05/06/2008 at 23:28:48

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The way Ramsay started running the show when he came on in the FA Cup final was enough to make me think it’s worth taking a gamble on him. He looked a class act and wasn’t at all phased by the big occasion. I personally hope we get him. I don’t believe that it’s only a two horse race between Utd and Arsenal... We have a lot to offer too. COYB
Peter Pridgeon
30   Posted 05/06/2008 at 23:56:39

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This is a new one, we are now part of the 'big five" again.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2008/06/05/arsenal-manager-set-to-meet-man-united-liverpool-and-everton-target/7207.html

Hope someone tells Sky, The BBC and all the other media, big four sycophants

David Edwards
31   Posted 08/06/2008 at 01:00:48

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I agree with Jimmy - from what I’ve seen he’s worth a gamble - even at that price - as I think with a touch more smoothing off of the rough edges, he’ll be a perky addition to our midfield. If I was in his shoes I think the promise of more first team football - actually would make us favourites to sign him (sadly, because if Davey moulds him into something special in a few years, the Sky 4 will steal him from us anyway - a la Rooney)! Arshavin’s still the man for me - but Ramsey would be a brave signing (and the way Davey saw through the hype surrounding Nugent etc. I trust our boss to choose the right use of Blue Bill’s pennies (rather than pounds, sadly), anyway!)
Mike Brooks
32   Posted 09/06/2008 at 23:24:29

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As a gooner I naturally hope Ramsey joins the Arse. If he opts for Everton, he will be playing for the Mancs in two years. That unfortunately is the way of the world, and if I was an Everton supporter I would rather he didn?t come at all rather than use Everton as a stepping stone.

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