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We must protest!!

Despite the original selling points of Destination Kirby unravelling before our very eyes (the 'no concerts' being the latest), despite the hideous prospect of Everton turning its back on a commercially vibrant City to go and play in a poor town in the middle of nowhere ? the project is more likely to succeed now than at any stage before, thanks to LCC deciding not to object.

Surely the time has come for us to stop whingeing on the message boards and organise a mass protest? It should be in Liverpool City centre and it should be at 3pm on a Saturday. I would gladly travel up from Cardiff to join in, are there others around the country who would happily travel to Liverpool for such an event ....?
Phil Hamer, Cardiff Posted 04/06/2008 at 11:12:32

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Dan McKie
1 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:02:52

You mean like Man U fans protesting to the Glazer’s takeover? Or redshite fans against their feuding owners? Protests generally get you nowhere and thats not me being defeatest, just realistic! The only thing that can stop Kirkby is politics, and even they seem to have stopped shouting!

Wayne Hughes
2 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:14:10

Don?t worry, the report planted by Ian Ross and the toad from Tesco in the supine echo have turned out to be as correct as the leaflet supporting the ballet...

Is that the sound of the fat lady clearing her tonsils outside Goodison this afternoon?

Paul OHanlon
3 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:18:22

Dan, the difference is our move to Kirkby has a chance of being ’called in’ by the government, thus potentially scuppering the whole project.

A well organised and (more importantly) well attended protest would increase this surely.

Phil, think you need to be speaking to KEIOC about this if you seriously want to get it of the ground. Either that or post on every blue fansite and forum you can find.

John Nelson
4 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:22:57

Poor town in the middle of nowhere?

Kirkby is 4 miles down the road mate.

Be a proper fan and stick to supporting your local team lad.

Phil Hamer
5 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:30:41

Nice one John ! Yup you’re a proper fan, and you ...’don’ like dem out of town fans with der silly accents. Everton is for scousers only !’.... Ok mate, I’ll go and support someone else and leave the Blues to proper fans like you. Lad.

Alan Rodgers
6 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:40:31

Today’s Daily Post is reporting that LCC have objected to Kirkby ,paving the way for Sefton and West Lancs to do likewise.
The disaster that would be Kirkby may not happen if it gets called in.
Tonight’s Echo has groundshare back on the agenda and government departments getting involved. Is it a coincidence that the RS have not begun work on Stanley Park desoite having planning permission ?
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Phil Hamer
7 Posted 04/06/2008 at 14:54:51

Alan you’ve just made my day mate. If thats true then thats a massive boost. I’m not worried about the groundshare because there’s seemingly even more ill will towards that than there is towards Kirby. It has to be a redevelpment of Goodison. Its a venue and location PROVEN to easily cope with 50,000 people coming in and out.

Paul OHanlon
8 Posted 04/06/2008 at 15:04:39

Best news I’ve heard this year! Well done LCC for finally getting off your arses and doing something to stop this move.

Now get round a table with BK and offer up some ’deliverable’ proposals!

Dan McKie
9 Posted 04/06/2008 at 15:13:14

Paul, thats what I meant by politics being the only thing that could stop it (and from the sounds of Alans post it may happen)! A football fans protest however would not make the government call in the proposal, if it falls in line with regulations,thats what i was getting at.

Rob Hollis
10 Posted 04/06/2008 at 21:29:14

Phil

I am an ’out of town’ scouser. i was a yes voter. i don’t know if Kirby is the only option but it is one.

If you see the way the world is moving then it might be a chance to claim merseyside and leave RS to the city.

Anyway, why the tone towards John, somebody who disagrees with the KEIOC MINORITY

James McCarthy
11 Posted 04/06/2008 at 23:04:49

After previous piss weak efforts at organising protests I guess KEIOC will steer well clear of further similar embarrassments.

David Thompson
12 Posted 05/06/2008 at 12:40:45

James,

KEIOC don’t NEED to organise any protests.

They are having plenty of success doing what they are doing at present.

Andy Callan
13 Posted 06/06/2008 at 13:00:11

WE VOTED TO MOVE OUT.

WE ARE MOVING....

Why can’t you lot stop all this nonsence and get used to the idea that we are gunna end up in this stadium?!?!?!

Change the record you lot, coz it is beginning to wear very, very thin.

COYB.

Tom Hughes
14 Posted 07/06/2008 at 10:03:32

Andy,
You voted to move because the club pronounced that we were moving:

(a) To a stadium for "practically nothing"

(b) To most accessible stadium in the country.

(c) To a high quality stadium.

(d) To a stadium that can accommodate concerts etc.

(e) Because there is no plan B.

(a) no longer applies, meaning that (e) doesn’t either. (b) never applied and never can. Kirkby will never be more accessible than even GP. (c) the clubs own documentation now describes it as a mid-level stadium. (d) can never happen according to Knowsley’s own planning Dept.

Ever felt duped? Bit like voting for labour and the tories turning up!

Andy Callan
15 Posted 09/06/2008 at 13:27:39

So you think that Goodison is a viable option?

Instead of fuckin’ whinging what is the alternative then?

Don;t make me laugh.

Tom Hughes
16 Posted 09/06/2008 at 14:15:25

Andy,
Typically, you answered none of the points raised. A common theme amongst those who continue to try to justify the unjustifiable.

Check out KEIOC site and look at alternatives sites, and you will see that some of us have managed more than a few lines on a forum to justify our stance. All without colourful language or "whinging"!