As a season ticket holder and 'no' voter, I am becoming incresingly concerned about this Kirkby business. I know that stadium boycotts have been mooted in the past, but I feel that this is the only way to show the misguided custodians of our club the strength of feeling about this move. Obviously people are reluctant to miss a game that they have paid for, so what about organising a boycott for a televised game? At least we would be able to follow the game, albeit on TV.
This would also ensure that maximum embarrasment would be caused to the powers that be in front of a national audience. I recognise that there are drawbacks with this form of protest, but surely desperate times call for desperate measures. I certainly don't want to harm the team or the club, but I feel that nothing could be more detrimental than leaving our city.
Neil McDonald, Posted 15/06/2008 at 20:51:23
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1 Posted 16/06/2008 at 08:37:30
I think the away support’s the key. I keep hearing that to a man the regular 2 or 3 thousand who travel to each away game are against the move, so why don’t they start protesting before away games or at half time? Why not bring anti-kirkby banners the match if they’re so against it?
2 Posted 16/06/2008 at 08:53:09
What happens if we lose the game we miss, I know it is a fantasy, but what if the team needed the 12th man on that occasion and we then miss Europe by a point?
Lots of ifs and maybes but I just don?t think missing games will do anythink less but make the team suffer, not the board.
3 Posted 16/06/2008 at 09:01:51
4 Posted 16/06/2008 at 09:11:07
What next buy a redshite shirt instead of Everton to protest we have a crap shop.
Whether you are a no or yes voter unless the government calls the project in we are going to Kirkby like it or not.
Why not talk about our teams aspirations on the pitch.
Chat about potentials signings, or how well Yobo the scoring machine is doing at the moment.
Just getting bored of reading what is an inevitability!!
5 Posted 16/06/2008 at 09:23:56
We all know that thee is alot of support for the anti-kirkby cause out there, but every time anyone tries to garner that support, only a handful turn up. A proper high profile, well organised, major demo would show the strength of feeling that exists within the city.
6 Posted 16/06/2008 at 09:22:15
7 Posted 16/06/2008 at 09:53:17
8 Posted 16/06/2008 at 09:58:54
Miss one game in the hope to effect our team/club for many years to come. A sacrifice id be willing to make.
Even if all we got as a result was a re-vote? What's the bets the vote would be turned round then....
9 Posted 16/06/2008 at 10:00:08
10 Posted 16/06/2008 at 10:09:11
Why would the club have a re-vote, it got what it wanted and how many re-votes would make you happy?
Just because you didn’t like the outcome of the ballot it doesn’t justify that you want a re-vote.
I am not trying to have a go at you. We need to stop arguing about having another vote, it has already been done and the result is in.
11 Posted 16/06/2008 at 10:15:33
12 Posted 16/06/2008 at 10:22:08
I think what most people voted for was based on a pack of lies put out by the club. Now the truth is out there for all to see there are thousands more fans who have changed their minds. And I also think if there was to be a new ballot then you, I, and Everton know the outcome would be completely different. I still can't believe that some people think this is a good move now that all the lies and bullshit have been exposed. For all you Yes voters, time is running out, and as the old saying goes be very careful what you wish for!!! Time to wake up...
13 Posted 16/06/2008 at 10:48:21
I can only speak for myself and can categorically say that the Glossy Pullout and the cringeworthy clip had absolutely nothing to do with the way my vote went.
I have stated many time that I voted yes, as it was business suicide to completely throw away a seemingly affordable option for a new ground, nothing more nothing less. If the No vote won the plans for Kirkby would be done and dusted and for a club with limited options it just didn’t make any financial sense.
Why are you so certain that the vote will go the other way? Everyone thought the same way with the first vote. As I said before the vote has been taken and a result reached, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean we should do it again.
14 Posted 16/06/2008 at 11:20:10
15 Posted 16/06/2008 at 11:37:01
No lose situation, if it all goes well then they look good giving us a vote on such an important issue and if it goes tits up then they can simply turn around and say "Well, it’s what you wanted!"
16 Posted 16/06/2008 at 12:05:49
Please delete apathy and insert acceptance of the fact that the owners can do with the club what they want when they want as long is it is legal and have followed procedure.
To your reference of ?Lisbon Treaty? nobody owns Ireland, BK owns Everton - his train set, and can move it to where ever he wants.
As a Yes voter I cannot be a defeatist and indeed to use your quote Everton have already started on their journey to Kirkby, but its only 4 miles.
17 Posted 16/06/2008 at 12:53:08
There is no way I’d back a stadium walkout or anything like that, that would hurt the ’TEAM’ when it is a stadium project we are wanting to hurt.
18 Posted 16/06/2008 at 13:28:29
19 Posted 16/06/2008 at 13:29:30
Business suicide would have been to reject a "free" stadium or deal of the century in a marketable area of Liverpool, cashing in on merchandising and fan base.
But this isnt the case is it!? We’re moving further away from the 5th largest tourist destination in Europe in 2008 and its going to cost us approx £100m. Business suicide is persuing this option to the detriment of the club and fan base.
20 Posted 16/06/2008 at 13:24:37
Ralph - ’’Pleae delete apathy and insert acceptance of the fact that the owners can do with the club what they want when they want as long is it is legal and have followed procedure.’’
And you haven’t got a leg to stand on legally if they’ve done it by the book, I’m also against Kirkby but all these arguments are futile.
21 Posted 16/06/2008 at 13:05:33
I doubt if anyone would want to break the players concentration at the start of the game, any protest would need to be peaceful - and of course legal.
What about when Kenwright takes his seat for the 2nd half we all turn our backs on him, for say 2-3 minutes? It would be symbolic, - we would be turning our back on Kirkby
Images of this will be flashed all over the papers and Telly and BK will be left under no illusions as to the way the overwhelming majority really feel.
22 Posted 16/06/2008 at 13:35:11
And you’re right about the miskate BK and KW made on putting this to vote. As all they have done is left themselves open to a revote due to the bad ballot count and the misinformation given on the run up to the vote.
Can you imagine the uproar across the country if the gorvernment ran a similar ballot the same way? There would be a revote in a matter of days.
23 Posted 16/06/2008 at 14:12:32
24 Posted 16/06/2008 at 18:52:15
Do you mean the Government shouldn’t use the Electoral Reform Society to run the ballot? And are you suggesting that politicians tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth in the run up to an election - and consistently deliver all of their promises??
Given that I believe in the move to Kirkby, I can’t believe I’m going to suggest this, because I think my suggestion will actually give you what you want - full media coverage, reduced gate proceeds and a very clear message to BK of the folly of his ways, without having an impact on the team’s performance in a vital match.
Why don’t all the "No" voters boycott the home friendly against PSV? If only 5 to 10 thousand turned up, with an organised demonstration outside the ground of the 10 to 20 thousand who don’t want to move, you’d get your message across without costing us any points.
Of course, as a Yes voter, I might query how many actually did this, but that’s up to you guys...
25 Posted 17/06/2008 at 01:29:28
Just kidding and in no way would I condone the actions of anyone who took up this stupid piece of advice!
26 Posted 17/06/2008 at 08:58:31
I suggest that Geoff Boycott should handle our PR for Kirkby as he speaks his mind and surely even his tact and diplomacy would be better than Keith Wyness.......
..........and for the club employees posting under assumed names, this is IRONY !! I’m not casting under doubt on their fine achievements so far......