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Owen?
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I know this has probably been mentioned before and given his injuries may not be the most viable option ? however..... The "England Legend" is out of contract at the Toon this coming summer: this means a free exit from the humbugs to a team of his choice.
Now obviously this means no transfer fee, which given his "rep" could still be quite high, I mean he still has the ability to score goals for fun. The down side is his wage... some estimate he is on between £70k to £80k per week!! This is of course a massive sum... BUT, with no transfer fee, we could in theory afford to get Mr Owen this summer, if we were to offer ? and this is purely for argument's sake ? £100k per week (this helps my calculations!!). Then, if we offered him a 3-year contract, we would only fork out a total of £14M ? this is £1M less than we paid just to sign "the mopheaded one".
I know we are skint and don't have two buttons to rub together, but if we did would he be a good option at this price? Granted we would need a signing on fee and bonuses for goals but a fit Owen is sure to bag a minimum of 15 to 20 a season ? how many extra points is that a season?? Yak, Saha, Owen, Vaughany & Big Vic ? not a shabby strike force (IF FIT!!).
Si Harwood, Posted 17/12/2008 at 09:23:36
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2 Posted 17/12/2008 at 14:55:22
And his media interviews are apparently used to torment prisoners at Guantanamo.
3 Posted 17/12/2008 at 10:48:23
4 Posted 17/12/2008 at 15:10:08
5 Posted 17/12/2008 at 15:22:10
6 Posted 17/12/2008 at 15:28:48
7 Posted 17/12/2008 at 15:30:31
8 Posted 17/12/2008 at 15:59:17
9 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:06:19
10 Posted 17/12/2008 at 15:59:56
11 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:14:25
And I?m not sure we can afford a player who only contributes goals and not all-round pressure. Apart from the money!
12 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:20:09
He’ll never come here, not with our pay structure.
13 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:12:19
14 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:07:04
Man Utd. Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez, Ronaldo, Campbell (on loan but will return).
Liverpool. Torres, Keane, Babel, Kuyt, N?Gog (rated highly by Rafa)
Arsenal. Adebyor, Van Persie, Bendtner, Vela, Walcott, Eduardo.
Chelsea. Anelka, Drogba, Kalou.
Apart from Chelsea, no team in the Sky 4 would want or need him. His Dad played for us back in the 70s and he supported the club as a boy. What I am trying to say is, with a minimal transfer fee in Jan (I think £2.5M max is what it would take to get him) & £65k a week, we could get a truly top class finisher and striker.
With our current lack of strikers, Yak is out for the season and now Dr Steadman has dislocated his own shoulder, Vaughan's op will not take place until Feb ? thus ruling him out for the season also. Owen is almost guaranteed a starting bearth in the team.
I know Cahill scored at the weekend but I fear this is not an answer for the remainder of the season. With no Carling Cup opportunities now this year what chance will Jutkiewicz get? A wasted season on the bench. Could not even get 15-20 mins when Cahill looked knackered. Admit if Cahill had been subbed who would have scored to get us the 3 points but no striker on the pitch for 90 mins and 1 on the bench who has never played for us...
15 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:19:14
16 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:31:19
17 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:51:27
18 Posted 17/12/2008 at 16:52:08
19 Posted 17/12/2008 at 17:24:16
20 Posted 17/12/2008 at 17:22:03
21 Posted 17/12/2008 at 17:32:06
It is pure lazy journalism that we are linked with these players as we are never competitive in auctions. When was the last time we signed somebody that another team was after?
22 Posted 17/12/2008 at 18:50:19
23 Posted 17/12/2008 at 18:39:30
I was wondering why we don?t sign players before the transfer window opens, and wait till the last day to do so. I know you can?t officially sign players, but you could get the deal in place before the window opens. This is evidenced by Real Madrid signing Huntelaar and now Diarra. Landon Donovan has signed for Bayern Munich and Thiago Silva for Milan.
So why do we always wait till the end?
24 Posted 17/12/2008 at 19:06:07
25 Posted 17/12/2008 at 19:07:20
26 Posted 17/12/2008 at 19:28:29
27 Posted 17/12/2008 at 19:15:01
What might happen is that our lads, who can play 4-6-0 successfully, show us all how throwing away stupid money can be avoided in these more realistic times. Tim Cahill stepped up, DM gave him a go, and it worked. A long way to go, but it could be an interesting tactical development.
Older members of the congregation may remember Ramsey?s ?wingless wonders? as dinosaur pressmen called his team ? and they won a World Cup.
28 Posted 17/12/2008 at 19:46:10
A player you add to your ranks, when you already have two fit and competent strikers, but know that the 15-20 games a season he is available, he?d be one of your preferred starters because he will score 2 out of 3 games he plays. You take your 10-15 goals a season and smile.
We are not in the position of being able to afford a luxury player ? we have no strikers. We need someone who will play every game and offer cover in the latter part of the season.
Owen is not the player; we do not have tgat luxury at this moment in time. If we buy Owen ? it's for NEXT season.
29 Posted 17/12/2008 at 20:39:46
30 Posted 17/12/2008 at 20:41:08
1. His wages are far too excessive for us and Newcastle have apparently offered him £80k per week to stay.
2. Hopefully Moyes will realise that he won’t fit into our system. He can’t play in a 4-5-1, he needs a striker to support and create chances for him.
As mentioned above, we don’t create that many chances, just a lot of huff and puff! Owen is too much of a gamble. To put all our eggs (and money) into one basket and rely on a proven injury prone striker, is not worth the gamble.
Also as mentioned above, and what I have mentioned before, I truly believe we need to make a move for McGeady and Kightly. We possibly may have missed the boat on Kightly as it looks as if Wolves are going up and he will surely want to try his hand in the PL with Wolves first. However, McGeady looks like he could be on his way out of Celtic after being suspended by Strachan!
McGeady and Kightly will change our style dramatically with two out-and-out wingers who can create and score. We will create many chances (also with Arteta, Pienaar, Osman, Cahill and Fellaini to choose from in the centre) and our strikers (Yakubu and Saha specifically) are proven goalscorers given the service.
McGeady and Kightly are also both young British players who can get the crowd on their feet and both can score from free-kicks. I think that we could get both for a combined £10m.
31 Posted 17/12/2008 at 21:11:57
32 Posted 17/12/2008 at 21:49:17
Too expensive, injury prone, doesn't suit our system and Newcastle do not want to let him go before the summer even if he goes for free then.
Even though I dont like rumour mongering, I heard Marlon Harewood was a virtually done deal.
If that?s the case, I would be slightly disappointed that we couldn't do better but I would prefer us to "BEEF" MF up with a strong player who can win and hold the ball.
33 Posted 17/12/2008 at 23:04:01
I would much prefer Martins, Carew (if fit) or a fast young forward who has the appetite for work that EFC teams need. I'm afraid moving to EFC would be a case of another fading star getting a wage that may well upset other players... we generally pay lots of money for strikers who fail and Owen would just be another panic move I reckon.
As someone else has already said, Owen needs someone to provide him with opportunities and at the moment we do not have that player. He would just be another waste of money I reckon. He looked over the hill during his last seasons at Liverpool.
34 Posted 18/12/2008 at 02:19:28
35 Posted 18/12/2008 at 05:56:38
I am sure Kenwright would just love to have him at Everton, he always has. The kudos for Everton would be immense, but so would the wage bill, alas I can't see it happening.
As for RS, well Rafa has already dropped an expensive clanger with Keane, he may not want to take a chance with an injury prone Owen, although I am sure Owen would love to go back like Fowler did.
Expect moneybags City to get him, his wages will not be a problem for them, also it will give their sagging season a boost.
As for Everton, well I still think Moyes will try and bring in Obinna, as he will be a loan with a future view to a permanent deal. As for a striker, will I expect a bruiser up front to take the weight off Tim, not the type of player you describe Owen.
36 Posted 18/12/2008 at 07:18:26
37 Posted 18/12/2008 at 08:25:19
Then again, you never know. He?s a good Christian (he?d link well with Peanuts), he probably eats well and reads that Eckhart Tolle self-help shit. Maybe he?ll be Lazarus and keep scoring till he?s 40.
38 Posted 18/12/2008 at 08:35:20
Christ, I?LL become a Christian if we can successfully avoid buying anyone in January as lumpen and uncoordinated as those two. Fuck, won?t some on-the-cheap J. Foreigner type do for five months? Someone we?ve never heard of, preferably.
39 Posted 18/12/2008 at 10:47:56
40 Posted 18/12/2008 at 11:06:37
I know the cup exit this year was too early but the FA Cup has not started yet. If the board room turmoil was preventing Owen, as has been reported from the press, signing his extension, this will not change any time soon. With 6 months of his contract left Newcastle should worry about £17M in transfer fees and £120k a week in wages for 4 years being lost.
Apart from Aston Villa, we must be considered the only other team Owen would move to. Man City have more strikers than all other teams now let alone the inevitable transfer of Santa Cruz. Bojinov the forgotten man has also started full training as well.
To Iain Love. Afraid not mate. Lived in St Albans all me life!!
ps: Will people stop posting about Obinna. He is an attacker who plays on either wing. NOT a striker which we need.
41 Posted 18/12/2008 at 13:55:53
42 Posted 18/12/2008 at 14:26:29
Heskey not done much since "the green mile".
43 Posted 18/12/2008 at 16:43:38
44 Posted 18/12/2008 at 17:49:50
Way to make yourself look like a fool.
45 Posted 19/12/2008 at 00:06:01
And it is certainly not shortened by me.
I also hate it when somebody says "Can I get a Magners". I just wait for the day when somebody replies "No you bloody can?t!" Also something picked up from the good old US of A.
46 Posted 19/12/2008 at 01:20:38
I wouldn?t mind seeing Benjani Mwaruwaruwaruwaru in our lineup if only to watch him anoint the Street End after he scores. An entertaining celebration, to be sure, and far less off-putting than swinging an imaginary baby.
47 Posted 19/12/2008 at 13:01:25
48 Posted 19/12/2008 at 13:06:30
49 Posted 19/12/2008 at 13:10:13
50 Posted 19/12/2008 at 13:19:33
51 Posted 19/12/2008 at 18:46:05
52 Posted 17/12/2008 at 18:09:47
Sure, we need a striker at the moment, but hopefully that crisis will be over in 6 months. For the long term, I'd love to see two pacy wingers sign. This will change our style of play dramatically. We should then play an attractive attacking football with wingers creating and scoring. We do have two proven Premier League goalscorers at the club, and two very promising young strikers, we just don't create enough chances, more through huff and puff than anything.
Firstly, a young English right winger, Michael Kightly from Wolves. I was hoping that we'd sign him in the summer just gone, and unfortunately we may have missed the boat on him due to the season Wolves are having. They are likely to get promoted and Kightly will probably want to try the Premier League with Wolves first (before they get relegated and we could get him the season after). However, he has been very impressive this year and deserved his chance for the England U21s which again he impressed. He can cross, score and take free-kicks. If we can't get him a cheaper alternative could be Stephen Hunt from Reading.
Secondly, and more likely now is Aiden McGeady from Celtic. A young Scottish left-winger who has impressed for them and in the Champions League. Again another tricky out-and-out winger who can create, cross and score and take free-kicks! He is now much more likely to sign after being suspended by Strachan (and backed by the Board) for two weeks and looks like he could be on his way out of Celtic. This is even more surprising due to the fact he is one of Celtic's better players who will inevitably leave the Scottish league anyway.
Now here comes the serious (and unfortunate) part: the finances! I think that we could get both for about £10m. Ok, this is more likely to happen in the summer than January with an estimated £10m available in the summer. However, there have been rumours that Baines could be on his way out for about £4m-£5m. If we could raise the rest against summer transfer activity or other player sales (!) then surely it's a good idea.
As said before, it'll greatly improve our style of play, whether a 4-4-2 or probably even better in a 4-5-1 and create chances for proven goalscorers. The immediate striker crisis can be dealt with a couple of loan signings (Nugent, McBride? and Baxter deserves a chance). These signings will also free up great competition for the two or three central midfield berths with Arteta, Cahill, Fellaini, Pienaar and Osman fighting for the positions.
Anyway, as said before, that's what I would like to happen, any ideas please?


1 Posted 17/12/2008 at 14:46:37