There's growing support out there to have the Liver Bird returned to our badge. Any chance of a poll or a campaign on ToffeeWeb?
Andy Hegan, Posted 02/05/2009 at 06:14:47
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The identity of the club must extend to the City it hails from ?is that is the perceived weakness in Everton's brand image that this movement is aiming to rectify? Everton FC's identity has always been with Everton, the district within Liverpool, and since the 1930s the club crest has included Rupert's Tower off Everton Brow.
To push for the inclusion of a symbol that adorns the crest of our arch rivals seems flawed to me. But perhaps we could have a really small one perched atop said tower... would that suffice?
1 Posted 02/05/2009 at 14:18:35
How about on one leg of the shorts - a BLUE one?
2 Posted 02/05/2009 at 14:27:56
I think I?d better stop now.
3 Posted 02/05/2009 at 14:34:49
If people don't recognize who we are by our badge, that's their problem!
4 Posted 02/05/2009 at 14:50:57
What next - change the strip to red?
5 Posted 02/05/2009 at 14:55:54
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7 Posted 02/05/2009 at 15:32:58
Prince Rupert's Tower is OUR Tower. It?s Everton?s tower. And we don?t need a shitty little bird, however iconic it is to the city of Liverpool, on our shirts to boost our reputation.
If people don?t know about Everton, they don't matter to Everton. NSNO
8 Posted 02/05/2009 at 15:44:55
9 Posted 02/05/2009 at 15:53:58
Has Kirkby got an iconic emblem we could use?
10 Posted 02/05/2009 at 16:23:17
FUCK RIGHT OFF!
11 Posted 02/05/2009 at 16:24:12
12 Posted 02/05/2009 at 17:14:35
FUCK RIGHT OFF!
And do not post ridiculous, meaningless posts like this AGAIN!!!
13 Posted 02/05/2009 at 18:12:44
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16 Posted 02/05/2009 at 19:09:31
Those who know a little about football know perfectly well where we come from ? hence the Israeli commentators at the semi-final could say (and how much I enjoyed it!), "It could well be that the only trophy going to Liverpool this year is to the team that plays in blue."
If we ARE going to Kirkby ? then yes, we have to try and "compensate" by strengthening our Liverpool connection.... So it's not an idea that we should flatly reject.
17 Posted 02/05/2009 at 19:40:16
Everton are already affiliated with the LCFA and the original Liverbird on the Everton kit came from the Liverpool and District FA crest.
All bases covered?
18 Posted 02/05/2009 at 19:45:39
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21 Posted 02/05/2009 at 20:53:53
I believe it will have the opposite effect and in fact weaken their identity rather than ours. We were first to have it.... However, if anything we were one of the last clubs to incorporate a badge apart from the earliest examples with LCFA and the 1920s EFC efforts.
We would still have our now traditional shield has our real figurehead, but we would be reaffirming our identity with the city of Liverpool for which we are the senior club. LFC realised the importance of their emblem and incorporated on their shirts generations ago to assert themselves on the population when they really weren?t worthy of the recognition and support they have now..... recently they even tried to buy the copyright of the symbol. They know the importance of that brand, and they hate the notion that among many we are considered the more local team. I think we can have our cake and eat it on this!
22 Posted 02/05/2009 at 22:01:23
Best design would be to incorporate the 1891 League Championship winning medal (see David France Collection) onto our shirts and t-shirts. This would be seen as a bona-fide use of our history and not just a wind-up. (message to editor... could you post a link to the 1891 medal)?
Oh... alrught... since you asked so nicely:
23 Posted 02/05/2009 at 22:27:19
Any suggestions what that could be?
24 Posted 02/05/2009 at 22:59:01
Brian, John and Guy - IYKYH
25 Posted 02/05/2009 at 23:18:07
Bayern Munich have had a few identity issues too with the fact that their name "Bayern" is mentally associated by Germans with the colours blue and white and yet the team wears red most years. That may be why they have from time-to-time added blue stripes or even worn all blue for 2 season in the late 1990s.
26 Posted 03/05/2009 at 00:37:35
I?d go the whole hog and mention Anfield as well as often as we can just to remind everyone that those horrible shower are our bastard offspring.
27 Posted 03/05/2009 at 06:15:29
We are also affiliated to the Lancs FA so we can have their crest as well on the other leg of our shorts or wherever.
The hopefully soon to be defunct Kirkbydome is very near to the crackheads' drop-in centre, or so I am told, so we could maybe incorporate a little baggie and a srynge as well.
As for Nerys Hughes?s Arse, I?m all for pictures of naked women, but (no pun intended) the 1969 version NOT the 2009 version.
The Liver Bird, it?s just a Cormorant FFS!
28 Posted 03/05/2009 at 07:02:31
So who wants a shag on the top of Rupert?s tower?
29 Posted 03/05/2009 at 11:35:45
So I?m not too sure why there?s this need for identification to the city of Liverpool when it comes to foreigners looking on. And if its achieved, so what? What happens then?
If it does need to be done, then why use a bird symbol which isn?t known that well to even people around the UK? Not when seen on its own anyway.
The Madrid area?s animal is a bear, what would we think if Rayo Vallecano had this on their shirts? Probably, why am I watching Rayo Vallecano...
30 Posted 03/05/2009 at 12:01:25
KIRKBY: It is not over and the club and others still want it to happen. A web site with an agenda is not the place for objectivity. That is not to say it will happen; however, nothing is clear it has fallen through at all.
THE PEOPLE?S CLUB: The best explanation of the split at Everton that created LFC is here: http://www.liverpoolwiki.org/History_of_Everton_FC.
The timeline explains it simply; Everton from the outset were a fan-based community People?s Club. Great stuff. I am glad we went to GP from Anfield.
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