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A lot of discussion in the last few days has been on the FA Cup, Value of Europa League/Uefa Cup, and our plans for the summer... However, we play Spurs tomorrow, a very important match. I honestly think finishing 5th is vital: for one, it doesn't half stick one to the BBC and the other media pundits who have masturbated over Martin O'Neill for the past 9 months.

We're also, I think, on course for our best points total in the Premier League ? something we should be aiming to reach. To do so, on the back of cup success also, would make this our greatest season in the Premier League.

Also, I just fucking hate Tottenham and the mercanery that is Harry Redknapp. 3-0 with Pienaar, Jo and Cahill amongst the goals, COYB!!!
Fran Mitchell, Liverpool Posted 08/05/2009 at 11:21:45

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Michael Kenrick

Let's make this the Matchday Thread for those who are unable to attend Goodiosn Park and the penultimate home match of the season.

Here's the team:

Tim Howard
Phil Neville (c)
Joseph Yobo
Joleon Lescott
Leighton Baines
Marouane Fellaini
Steven Pienaar
Tim Cahill
Jack Rodwell
Dan Gosling
Joao Alves Jo

Subs: Carlo Nash
Lars Jacobsen
Segundo Castillo
James Wallace
Leon Osman
James Vaughan
Louis Saha

So Jacobsen on the bench, Neville and Gosling down the right... Hmmm.... Go get 'em lads!

Tim Taylor
1 Posted 08/05/2009 at 17:09:52

I could not agree more on all counts Fran!

Gavin Harris
2 Posted 08/05/2009 at 17:44:43

Agree mate. I?ll be travelling up from South Wales for the match so expect to see me necking the pints in the pubs before the game. ;-)

Neil McKinney
3 Posted 08/05/2009 at 18:28:14

I too am desperately hoping we snatch 5th from Villa. Fair play to Villa they have emerged as another challenger to the Big 4 and that can only be good for the game as a whole, but the UEFA debacle of resting players was a big mistake in my book and back fired horribly.

Redknapp is a disgrace IMO. He talks "top, top, top" bollocks and has stabbed more clubs in the back than most. He constantly prattles on about what a "triffic" job he’s done to get them out of the relegation battle, when actually it’s only the fact that everyone else was even worse that they’ve managed to climb up the table. I thought he was bang out of order to criticise Bent on TV straight after he missed that sitter (forget who against), you do that shit in house, not to the Sky cameras. He has publicly blamed the players for poor results as clearly it can’t be his fault and I have lost all respect for the guy this season. Ask a Pompey or Southampton fan how "triffic" a manager they think he is.

Let’s hope we stuff spurs and show them that steady progression and team spirit count a lot more than spunking money around on anyone and everyone who is available in the close season.

COYB!!

Chris James
4 Posted 08/05/2009 at 19:19:54

Hey Fran,

Agree wholeheartedly on most fronts, but we’re not going to be setting any points records unfortunately.

We finished with 65 last year, so even if we win all 3 remaining games (by no means a cert!) the best we can do is match our best.
I think we more like to finish on 63 (2 wins and a draw).

Ivor Bona
5 Posted 08/05/2009 at 19:52:06

Redknapp?s just a twitchy Cockney twat. Mind you something of mine would be twitching if that Loise kept coming round to MY house. Fnar Fnar.

Keith Glazzard
6 Posted 08/05/2009 at 22:13:36

Fran - a full, fair and frank assessment of the task to come. And with what we used to regard as a bogey team.

I think the lads can’t believe how badly they did for the home crowd against city. Some good stuff coming tomorrow. Lescott to score?

Lars Eidissen
7 Posted 09/05/2009 at 01:27:33

I agree with all sentiments. Perhaps most importantly, we are chasing our first double over Spurs for at least a generation, if not two (and God knows they have had a few on us).

As for points total, I wholeheartedly agree that is it important to aim as high as possible for that, and keep setting new Premier League records there, although it won’t happen this year (should have though...). It should at least be a target to surpass 60 points consistently now, and to do that given our record at Craven Cottage, we might very well need a win over Spurs.

COYB!

Dan Hamann
8 Posted 09/05/2009 at 05:05:59

Too right... got to hate Spurs!

Dave Wilson
9 Posted 09/05/2009 at 06:31:00

Is right Fran, time to refocus.

Matthew Salem
10 Posted 09/05/2009 at 08:03:44

I have this one guy in my pub who gives me more shit when Everton lose than the a redshite. He?s a Spurs supporter. Cheeky cunt. Fuck him. Fuck Spurs. UP THE BLUES!

Norman Merrill
11 Posted 09/05/2009 at 08:33:08

Fran, I do really hope that we beat Spurs today, more so for our own benefit, and may be it will help to shut up that smarmy faced son of RedCapps, who will no doubt be on Sky tomorrow hoping Utd come unstuck. COYB.

Louis Huglin
12 Posted 09/05/2009 at 09:44:01

Is all this language really necessary? My ten-year-old brother has recently become a ToffeeWeb fan and since then I am noticing more and more bad language on this forum. I appreciate people want to get their point across, and I don?t mind the odd use of profanity, but it seems a little OTT sometimes. ToffeeWeb is a fantastic site, it really is, it's just a shame that the four letter words are becoming more and more commonplace on threads like these.

To get back on topic, I can see a tough game against Spurs, but the lads will surely be eager to leapfrog Villa and give the Goodison faithful something to cheer about. I see a narrow victory for the Blues.

Trevor Lynes
13 Posted 09/05/2009 at 10:01:34

Looking ahead to next season the priority is increasing the squad size with at least two or three quality players if we are to fulfill our increased fixture list due to European commitments..this season we have over achieved with a ?bare bones? squad who have performed brilliantly in the main, BUT the main focus now is at least matching this seasons improvement and if possible cracking the top four.

We desperately need investment so that DM can have realistic funds to meet the challenges to come....he needs a transfer budget of at least £30 million with some more youngsters coming up to the plate and breaking into the squad. I would love a top quality playmaker aka Arshevin who we should have signed immediately after the games against Zenit and a ?proper? striker, truly I do not think that the Yak is consistent enough and he would not be in a top side.... we are making do and mending up front and we do need someone who can shake up defences and compete consistently... NOT OWEN !!!!

I have basked this season in our positive play and DM has dragged fantastic displays from our depleted squad, he should be the manager of the year for the achievements this season.... BUT we want more of the same next season and beyond!!!

Iain Love
14 Posted 09/05/2009 at 11:06:52

Trevor??? The Yak has consistently scored goals season after season, he is probably the most consistent goalscorer in the league!

Agree otherwise with what you're saying apart from £30 mill, we need much more than that to break into the top 4. ie Glen Johnson £10 mill , Joaquin £10 mill, V Love £20 mill, M'bia £8 mill ? thats £48 mill and still gives us no depth in squad.

Fergal O'Regan
15 Posted 09/05/2009 at 12:08:28

We need two top top players, a winger and a playmaker and about three decent squad players, and thats with nobody leaving the club.

Who we get, not a clue... but Moyes must know who he wants and make his move as early as he can. We need them before pre-season to gel with de rest of the squad.

As for Spurs, I will be gutted if we dont take three points from the game, and lay down a marker for next season...

Joeynkoo Ludden
16 Posted 09/05/2009 at 12:19:02

Spurs have quite a few key players out today, I’d be gutted if we don’t get 3 points off ’em, especially as I fancy Villa to get a point at best at Fulham.

We have 4 games left this season, all against London sides, the 2 at home (Spurs and WHU) have to been seen as the more winnable ones, then Fulham away, then throw everything at Chelski. What odds we win all 4??

Sam Higgins
17 Posted 09/05/2009 at 12:41:41

Talking of Spurs, Harry Redknapp and so on - did you see Jamie Redknapp on Sky Sports after the Chelsea/Barcelona game on Wednesday. Now there is a cunt and a half. Whining like a small child about how chelsea had been hard done by and how refs from Norway shouldnt ref UEFA games - the forgotten cousin was obviously whinging on behalf of his equally spew inducing cousin, it was quite embarrassing listening to his rant as Ruud Gullit sat next to him probably thinking who is this tit? And is it me or are the Redknapp/Lampard clan the most irritating, sickening, smug self-satisfied cunts in football?!!

I mean just as an example when Mrs Lamapard passed away last year, tragic a sit was - wasn't the entire thing turned into some kind of Princess Di-esque national fucking tragedy ? I'm sure other players relatives pass away over the course of a season but they dont get this special treatment that this family seems to enjoy.....

Ah and Lampard ringing up that fucking London DJ last week re his wife and kids ? I mean any normal person would switch the radio off and rise above it ? but no I'm fucking Frank Lampard and my mum died last year and you can't say that about me blah blah blah .......... look I know this sounds harsh but do you know what I'm getting at?!!!!!...

Fran Mitchell
18 Posted 09/05/2009 at 13:11:10

According to the match preview we haven't beat spurs in 5 years??????

I think it meant we haven?t won at home in 5 years, as we beat them away in the last 3 outings. 1-0, 3-1, and 2-0, however havn?t beat them at home since the 3-1 victory in 2004.

Anyway, time to do a double over spurs.

However, what if Jacobson aint fit? Neville at RB with Castillo in middle? Gosling at RB? Yobo at RB and Rodwell in CB? Or will Gosling start if Ossie aint fit?

Should we play Fellaini? He still risks missing the Cup Final if he gets 2 bookings... Should Saha or Vaughan play for more than 15 minutes, they are both out of match practice and we need a striker fit for the Final. A lot of queries as to our first team today...

Neal Kernohan
19 Posted 09/05/2009 at 13:21:24

Anyone got any links for game today? COYB

Richard Porter
20 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:29:31

The teams:

Everton: Howard, Neville, Yobo, Lescott, Baines, Gosling, Rodwell, Cahill, Pienaar, Fellaini, Jo.
Subs: Nash, Castillo, Saha, Vaughan, Jacobsen, Osman, Wallace.
Tottenham: Gomes, Corluka, King, Woodgate, Bale, Hutton, Huddlestone, Jenas, Modric, Keane, Defoe.
Subs: Cudicini, Bentley, Pavlyuchenko, Gunter, Campbell, Chimbonda, Rose.
Referee: Lee Mason (Lancashire)

Nick Marsh
21 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:37:33

Looks like Spurs have gone 3-5-2, I think that's how Harry, whilst at Portsmouth, lined up against us when they spanked us 0-3!!

Peter McIver
22 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:48:48

Links please... it's lonely here in Adelaide!

David Parks
23 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:50:31

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

Jack Farrell
24 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:51:15

Gareth Bale is playing, we can’t lose!
(Bale has never won a premiership match, this is his 23rd attempt)

Peter McIver
25 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:53:39

Thanks David.... I'm off to Iraq then...

Mark Gavan
26 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:58:26

http://www.zulu.mk/live/a1 this one is good too....

David Parks
27 Posted 09/05/2009 at 14:59:15

Or you could try to avoid Iraq and go American
http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=49defd7f754fc

Edwin Cole
28 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:02:33

Any more links please?

Peter McIver
29 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:00:34

Don't know if America is any safer than Iraq so I've gone Zulu... 'tis a bit jumpy though...
Thanks guys...

Neil Humphrey
30 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:05:12

Good pressure

Tom Winek
31 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:00:45

Sopcast channel YES. Top picture

Ste Boileau
32 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:03:30

Just had Sky Sports News on and they were wittering the usual shite about Everton overachieving again and come next season Spurs will be challenging for 4th as Harry will bring in a couple of diamonds in the summer. I mean FFS, it's the same record every year... what is it with the press and Spurs. Pinnochio was going on about Moyes getting itchy feet at Everton, you fucking wish you red twat. Come on you blues

Neil Humphrey
33 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:09:33

Fulham 1-0 Villa. Get the fuck in.

John Stevens
34 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:10:04

Fulham up 1 nil already...

David McKittrick
35 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:16:18

Bugger.. 1-1 with Villa.

Mike Cow
36 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:16:25

http://www.zomse.net/74-everton-vs-tottenham-hotspur-.htm

English, smooth but has DEMO written across the middle!!!

Neil Humphrey
37 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:18:29

That diving cheating twat Young has equalised for Villa.

Nick Dommett
38 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:20:36

has anybody else’s links just gone down (iraq goals, zomse)?

NEIL HUMPHREY
39 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:22:11

Back up again on iraq

David McKittrick
40 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:21:51

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=49defd7f754fc is working for me

Ben Jones
41 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:22:21

Go on http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=38281&part=sports.......

They provide a lot of links of the match

Andrew Bankes
42 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:25:44

This is poor... we’re chasing shadows all over the park....

Nick Dommett
43 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:27:17

From the 15-20 secs I see every minute (yes its jerking that much) it seems that when we have the ball (which is rare) we are just lumping it forward...

Neil Humphrey
44 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:30:12

If we get into half-time 0-0, Moyes needs to hand out a few bollockings. They are making us look very poor indeed.

Andrew Bankes
45 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:31:27

We look slow and ponderous on the ball with no movement being offered... am I right in thinking that ’Appy ’Arry has set his team up in exactly the same formation as his Portsmouth team that beat us 3-0 early in the season, as We couldn’t cope with it then or now....

Andrew Bankes
46 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:47:24

A big improvement over the last 5-10 minutes... we’ve even managed 3-4 attempts on goal!!!

Martin Beesley
47 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:39:48

Well a poor opening 35 minutes but much improved finally ten... I can?t get a decent picture, pausing/flickering every 20 seconds, everyone else the same?

Kiern Moran
48 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:50:37

Get Osman on now for Christ sake, take Fellaini off. Move Gosling to right back and put Neville back in the middle.

Colin Ryan
49 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:52:07

I'm having the same problems Martin. Watching it on Zulu and between the pausing and the countless ads I'm close to giving up!! But I'm hungover so I?ll persist!!

Neil Harrison
50 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:54:53

TVU is working fine... exept for Warren Barton.

Peter McIver
51 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:55:16

Same here in Oz, all jumpy stop-starty... best one is the one with demo over it...... Hope the lads don't think that means it's only a demo game... bit more spirit please boys!

Keith Edmunds
52 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:54:40

myp2p, TVU channel perfect picture.

Dave Richman
53 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:54:24

Agree. ?Arry seems to have his tactics spot on today and they have far too much space all over the pitch. Ref isn?t giving us anything though..... once again.

I?d love to see JV given a decent run at them.

Steve Fletcher
54 Posted 09/05/2009 at 15:55:21

Have a perfect picture on TVU channel 21500. You have to download the TVU player then away you go.

David McKittrick
55 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:04:13

Warren Barton is an idiot... saying Everton should be playing long balls and not passing so much.

David McKittrick
56 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:06:12

Fulham 2-1 Aston Villa

Clive Cox
57 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:08:43

I watched Warren Barton's preview before the match... and was suprised how much bollocks he talks... no wonder he can't get a job over here.

David McKittrick
58 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:18:34

Fulham 3-1 Aston Villa!

Ged Simpson
59 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:23:16

That Hutton will have Piennar off injured. Dirty git.

Team working their socks off though

Jamie Barlow
60 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:16:22

About time Saha or Vaughany came on, I like Jo but he can?t play in the Final so why not play someone who can?

Martin Beesley
61 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:25:19

Much better better side in 2nd half, come on blues grab a winner

Nick Dommett
62 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:15:55

Leon Osman: impact sub?

Ged Simpson
63 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:29:46

The injuries have given an opportunity to Piennar to show he?s a great little player.

Martin Beesley
64 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:34:35

Hope all those who used to moan about Arteta’s set plays have been watching the free kicks the last few games!

Viv Sharma
65 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:46:28

Alan Hutton is a worse human being than Joey Barton.

Jamie Barlow
66 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:49:29

I’d wrap Peanut in bubble wrap for the next couple of week, pure class again. Yobo has been superb again. All of them have played well and all that was missing was the goal. Unlucky blues.

Andy Mack
67 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:50:43

Shame we couldn’t grab a goal... Well done Tim and the defence, very solid, that’s Big Nev’s clean sheet record broken, isn’t it?

Jon J Cox
68 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:52:03

We?ve played better...

Jamie Barlow
69 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:53:00

Your not from Oldham are you Andy?

Ged Simpson
70 Posted 09/05/2009 at 16:53:29

That was a really positive sign of how the spirit is. No one is restng and Moyes has obviously got them competing for places in the final.

We could easily have won that and Piennar was brill. The defence looks OK withut Jags and my only worry is whether we have a striker who can score. In the final, our goal will come from Peanuts, or Fellaini if from anywhere.