ToffeeWeb - Season 2008-09

Michael Kenrick

My, you are full of questions, aren't you. I think I can maybe answer the last one...

Nah, you're right: let's wait and see. But let's use this as the Match Thread...

10:00 pm Now Closed to further comments - The Editor

Dan Parker
1 Posted 23/09/2008 at 23:20:11

The spin machine is starting to crank up, it's cup time!!

Roll out player and manager expectations of a 'great cup run'.

Richard Murray
2 Posted 24/09/2008 at 12:33:51

I imagine Cahill will be rested.. and I’m not sure if Arteta is fit.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Saha and Vaughan up front.

Billy Dean
3 Posted 24/09/2008 at 12:36:36

I reckon it’ll be Vaughan and Vic up top. Judging from Moyes’ comments about Saha in the week, it seems like he doesn’t want to rush hime back and risk his fitness any more than he has to. I’d also hope the likes of Fellaini and Castillo start, they need games to get into a rhythm and bed in.

Mike Coates
4 Posted 24/09/2008 at 12:51:23

Hey I like what you’ve done with my post (the whole, dot points and all).. And understand the removal of the previous game scorelines ;)

True a lot of players may be rested and the kids MAY start up front if Anichebe is ok? But seeing its Blackburn, I’d like to see our top players used to get some vengeance in this one!

Charlie Dixon
5 Posted 24/09/2008 at 12:52:27

Nash

Neville Jags Lescott Baines

Felliani Rodwell

Osman Arteta

Victor Vaughan

Subs; Howard, Yak, Yobo, Baxter, Kissock, Gosling

Just a guess

Mike Coates
6 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:04:42

Who else we got? Turner still around?

Mark Pendleton
7 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:07:53

Isn’t is "berth" that context re: Saha? Mind you, i guess he’s looking for a re-birth of his career with EFC!

Mike Coates
8 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:10:57

D’oh! Someone noticed :)

My secret shame.. Heheh. Yes you’re correct.

Nick Veitch
9 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:08:02

Anyone know whether the game can be seen on sopcast or anything?

I usually have to wake up at 5am to watch these games back in Australia, but i’m in Germany for Oktoberfest so the time difference is only 1 hour! Fuck yeah!

COYB!!!

Mike Coates
10 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:13:42

Yes, and I’m going to bed shortly back in Aus.

Aint found anything on myp2p.eu.

Only the Tottenham game is on there.

Guess I’ll be waking up to READ the game :(

Danny Marfany
11 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:14:58

Nash is cup tied. Arteta’s sick.

Nick Veitch
12 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:17:23

I know what you mean Mike. i hope someone is at least showing it though. For all the effort of waking up at ungodly hours, you would at least hope you can watch the game rather than read or listen to the radio.

Amanda Huddleston
13 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:50:48

50p says we let a goal in!

Santosh Benjamin
14 Posted 24/09/2008 at 16:31:21

The game is on at midnight here in India...not on TV...will have to follow the live scores/gamecast on the net...hope we can win...will make the day feel a lot less tiring tomorrow...COYB

Stefan Tosev
15 Posted 24/09/2008 at 16:38:09

any livestream?

Alan Clarke
16 Posted 24/09/2008 at 17:46:50

He should play Cahill. I want to win this cup this year especially as it seems we’re not going to make it to the group stages in Europe.

Stuart Mitchell
17 Posted 24/09/2008 at 17:37:01

sometimes find the games on www.justin.tv

Brett Bradshaw
18 Posted 24/09/2008 at 18:39:26

Does anyone know why our game is on at 20:00 with all the rest on at 19:45?

I know it is common but just wondered why and how they pick.. it’s obviously not for TV!?

Martin Beesley
19 Posted 24/09/2008 at 19:53:36

Everton: Howard, Neville, Yobo, Jagielka, Lescott, Rodwell, Castillo, Fellaini, Vaughan, Saha, Osman. -Subs: Turner, Hibbert, Baines, Cahill, Nuno Valente, Yakubu, Baxter. - 3 defensive midfielders! why not baxter instead of one of them or even baines for width?

Nick Veitch
20 Posted 24/09/2008 at 19:58:54

I feel sorry for Baines. I would have thought the league cup would have been a good opportunity for him to get a game under his belt. Great to see Saha starting. I just wish i could watch the game somewhere!

Ped Pearl
21 Posted 24/09/2008 at 19:57:46

Looks like a 5-3-1-2 line up to me with Osman in behind. Sensible line up from Moyes and solid but perhaps I would of liked to see Valente given a game.

Mike Coates
22 Posted 24/09/2008 at 19:56:11

Ah well.. Woke up 5 mins ago (slept on couch, lol)

No sign of stream, no channel showing the game. Time for reading glasses (if eye sight was poor)

Ah well.

Peter Fearon
23 Posted 24/09/2008 at 19:59:36

Regardless of the outcome and the team Blackburn is fielding, the line-up, with no Yakubu and no Cahill, shows the level of interest David Moyes has in this competition. That’s a pity because it’s a winnable competition, worth good money in the latter stages and a portal to Europe.

Dan McKie
24 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:02:32

How the hell are we shaping up with that side??? I could maybe see Osman out wide but with the other 3, who knows? I think we will be very narrow tonight!

Mike Coates
25 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:03:19

Good to see Saha given a start.

Cahill and Yak hit the bench, Arteta sick.

What is with no Baines though, is a total mystery.

Prediction : Cahill managing some sort of saving grace ;)

Nick Veitch
26 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:09:04

We are really missing Pienaar at the moment. FUCK 1-0 to rovers.
shit defending again.

Justin Widdop
27 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:08:56

Already one down and again crap defending!

Ped Pearl
28 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:07:33

We are only really playing one junior player, I would hardly say the side shows a lack of interest in the competititon. We have options on the bench to win the game and at the same time save their legs for much more important games coming up in the next week!!!

Chris Halliday
29 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:10:18

You can expect more bad defending. 1-0 down Sharpie on radio said Jags was at fault.

Barrie Hemsley
30 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:10:17

1-0.

DIdn’t take long. Good job we played 7 defensive players.

Paul McNeill
31 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:10:21

is the match on anywhere??

Adam Bennett
32 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:11:32

WTF is wrong with our defending this year ffs?

Mike Coates
33 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:11:44

Ah good, an early goal to the opposition to fire up the team.

Lee Watters
34 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:11:01

What a joke of a defence.... 1 keeper 4 defenders and 3 defensive midfielders and we are still shockin at the back??? Fucks sakes...

Nick Veitch
35 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:12:07

A 17 year old keeper replacement. I bet he’s dreading the thought of Saha running at him.

Mike Coates
36 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:13:57

Didn’t find any streams.

Robinson off already? Interesting.

Justin Widdop
37 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:13:41

One shot by Phil Neville so far... say no more!

Mick simo
38 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:14:46

Missing the bald eagle Carsley,

Paul mcneill
39 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:15:10

I know the match is on and were all hopin Louis scores but how the hell do you work out sopcast or any live streams . . .???

Neil Scott
40 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:14:15

Well at least we?re getting on with it. Only one more (own?) goal to concede before we start playing.

Gareth Price
41 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:15:30

Jason Brown is in his thirties...

Mike Coates
42 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:16:28

How the two clubs in the most trouble this season manage a game on tv against each other baffles me somewhat.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stoke V Hull also managed air time ahead of Everton.

Nick Veitch
43 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:19:04

Guys on the Everton TV radio said he’s 17, making his debut for Blackburn.

Trevor Tannenbaum
44 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:19:35

Listening to Skysports for updates. Does anyone else think that Paul Merson hates Everton. Dont remember any issues when he was playing. He always seems to get our games.

Think were already looking at last gasp comeback. Moyes must be pulling his hair out at the individual mistakes every game at the back.

James Marshall
45 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:20:06

Theres no live streams for this one lads & lasses - its not on TV anywhere (Sky/Setanta etc) and the foreign channels very rarely show early Carling Cup games unless its the big teams against each other. Its live on the OS site (radio) but I think thats down at the moment.

Nick Veitch
46 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:21:36

It’s working for me at the moment James.

Mike Coates
47 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:22:00

I’d hate to ask, but which TEXT site people reckon is the best (lol)

I’m only using soccernet at the moment.

Mike Whittaker
48 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:19:20

Apparently Tim Howard has kept us in the game according to Sky Sports. By the sound of it 40-year-old Robbie Fowler is giving our back 4 the run around. Says it all really - Moysie should stick all 4 of them in the stiffs.

Mark Stone
49 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:23:45

Can I discolse that I have just paid £40 to listen to this match and it doesn’t fucking work. Fucking evertontv

Mike Coates
50 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:23:31

Osman taking the corners. I’d prefer Baxter on for that sort of thing if no Arteta.

James Marshall
51 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:23:29

Nick, yeah its back up - defo no live tv streams on sopcast or TVants etc though so the guy up there looking for feeds might as well give up, it aint on mate.

For advice on watching live streams though, join the forum on freefootball.com

Justin Widdop
52 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:24:00

Listening to the game on the OS and only heard Fellaini mentioned once... Vaughan not in game and defense is very poor. Only bright spark seems to be Osman.

Brett Bradshaw
53 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:22:12

Is anyone else getting twitchy about the £15m paid for Fellaini?

We could have got Fernandes for that money and we know he can handle the prem.

I will be sick as a dog if he doesn?t come good.

Carsley in January sounds like good business at the mo!

James Marshall
54 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:25:15

Freefootball.org I should say.

Mark Griffiths
55 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:22:52

Trevor

To be fair to Paul Merson, every time he talks about us on Soccer Saturday he has nothing but good words about us, he is always saying we are a massive club and we should be up there challenging for the league, back where we used to be.

Richard Porter
56 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:25:29

The live stream does work on Everton TV> and our £40 will have got you a year’s subscription, not "listening to this one match". Oh, and Ronnie Goodlass is talking bull, Brown’s not 17 or making his debut, he’s 26 and played 126 games for Gillingham and two for wales, and this is his second for Blackburn.

Mike Coates
57 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:25:50

Ah, Robbie playing. Didn’t look at that.

So both pay as you play Strikers are on.

Well, since Tottenham & Newcastle are dead bottom, you’d think people prefer to watch two teams fighting in 9th and 10th place.

4 off target shots to one on target goal. Least we’re sounding like we’re on the front foot more.

Craig Ashford
58 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:25:32

All of the games are on talk sport, appently with Stan Collymore, if you can listen to his dull commentary you can catch all the games, better than nothing...

Nick Veitch
59 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:28:03

Yeah I just saw that on ESPN about Jason Brown. Commentators out of all people should have their facts right.

In answer to Brett, I too am nervous about the amount of money we spent on Fellaini. For that sort of money you expect a complete player, and it seems Fellaini isn’t great at distribution (possibly heading as well). Give him time though. I just hope he comes good.

John Klebberstone
60 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:12:05

10 mins up and 1 goal from Blackburn. It's kinda sad that we just can't stop goals from coming in. Why. Just why?

Viv Sharma
61 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:28:19

Fellaini:
Hopefully it will "take him a while to addapt to the pace of the English game".
If not, hopefully we can offload him for £3M in Jan and cut our losses.
£3M would be a bargain for us the way he looks!
Lets hold fire for a few more games though.

Brian Waring
62 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:27:39

Mark Stone, I?m listening to the game on everton tv. When you log on, and all you are getting is a blank screen, you have to press audio, which is situated on the right above, I know it sounds daft, but I done the same thing, and then realised I had to click on audio.

Tom Bowers
63 Posted 24/09/2008 at 13:51:15

The Blues have real problems defending as we have all seen of late. Chances are it isn't going to improve overnight. Only way to get around this for now is to stop giving the ball away cheaply which has been criminal in games so far.

The long balls to the front men are wasted for the most part because they fail to control the ball long enough and a big improvement is needed by the offence to correct this weakness. Saha seems to have more of this ability and his inclusion may help Everton keep possession longer.

As for the League cup. Expect nothing. Most Prem teams will play weakened teams and take their chances. With the Derby coming up it would be wise for Everton to play some of the fringe players.

Mark Stone
64 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:31:14

Am I lying Richard? Is that what you're suggesting? Tit.

Mike Coates
65 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:31:25

What's the half-time substitution predictions people? :)

Justin Widdop
66 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:30:59

Tugay is running the game. We are being given the run around by a 37 year old. We should be a lot better than this, our passing sounds shocking. COYB!!!!!

Mark Stone
67 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:32:40

Hi Brian,

It comes on for about 30 seconds then goes off and says buffering - when it gets to about 19% it just freezes. I wait a few minutes and nothing happens so I refresh - then the same thing happens.

It’s not a problem with my laptop as before the match I was listening to the build up on merseyside and it was fine.

Nick Veitch
68 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:33:42

Cahill on for Rodwell I’d suggest.

Mick Simpson
69 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:33:13

Fellaini just had hard luck, Everton look the more likely to score according to the piss head Merson, defence looks dodgy, Howard just made a decent save from the beak head Fowler.

John Martin
70 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:34:52

I cant beleive some people are suggesting we cut our losses already on Fellainin! Somebody even said for 3 million wtf!!!. This time last year we were saying lets get shut of the Yak and look how he turned out give the lad a chance. As for tonight Rodwell shouldnt have started, the midfield lacks creativity so Baxter should have been given a go instead.

Viv Sharma
71 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:40:31

Tongue in cheek, John, think you missed the point...

Craig Ashford
72 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:39:21

It's really crap defending from the boys in blue, I know people say form counts for nothing prior to the derby, but I'm shit scared were going to get our asses handed to us, with cheating scum Gerrard having his 100th disallowed, imagine the incentive to score it against us. And with our back 4 the way they are atm.....

Mike Coates
73 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:42:12

Definitely agree Baxter should have been on.

Expect him on at start of next half - IF we are planning on resting our big guns.

Steve Tunley
74 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:42:14

I think it is about time Moyes signed his contract as this is not giving any stability to the players. I mean who is going to listen to someone who doesn?t appear 100% committed to the blue cause. I am sure defending might be a bit better if they new the manager was going to be there for 5 more years.

Darren Frendo
75 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:42:44

Fellaini waste of money??? Panic buy for me....

Tony Grimes
76 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:37:48

Can anyone tell me why Radio Merseyside can't broadcast the shity League Cup? I thought cup games were ok to broadcast, just prem games... it's a fucking disgrace. I suspect it is a copyright but it's ok for 606 to broadcast games in London. It's not as if it's going to stop people going the game, I am in some shit hole in Afghanistan and just won't to listen to the game, corporate wankers.

Richard Porter
77 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:43:28

I was saying that £40 doesn’t just get you 90 minutes audio, and that the problem on the site might be to do with your computer, or your ISP, or any of a myriad of other issues rather than your kneejerk reaction of blaming the site, is all. I wasn’t seeking an argument.

James Marshall
78 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:44:43

Paul, there's no feeds for the Everton game tonight mate - you might find one for the Spurs game but not ours - get yourself on the freefootball.org forum and look at the links for live games, then click them and they will automatically open sopcast for you. It only works if theres a live feed published and there isn't one for this game tonight.

Mike Coates
79 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:46:36

Ok, lets take some positives out of the first half.

No seriously, anyone? Anyone?

Perhaps forget it ever happened and hope for a 3 goal onslaught by some substitutes?

Mick Mac
80 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:47:27

I used to watch it on sopcast and tvants Paul, but got so fed up with the buffering and breaking up I swerved it, I tried on Sunday just to see if it had improved and couldn’t even get the screen up. If you have got the patience try one of these, might just need some tweaking.

Paul McNeill
81 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:48:54

James, I have downloaded sopcast but can never get a decent picture / feed. The counter rarely gets over 30. Is it my laptop that aint good enough?? Im bladdy useless on computers!

Craig Ashford
82 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:49:34

Be careful what you wish for Mike, we can score both ends don't forget... (yes it's a joke dont all bite my head off at once).

Mark Stone
83 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:51:21

Paul thats a known problem - there’s a program you can download which speeds it up - there’s a link on the faq’s in myp2p but i can’t remember what it is

Alan Codd
84 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:47:46

This is what happens when you sell all your players and don't replace them. This is what happens when you can only bring in freebies. This is what happens when your chairman is a useless lying waste of shite.

And by the way, Fellaini was bought with Johnson and McFadden money.

Mike Coates
85 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:52:15

Jags, Yobo, Neville.

Lescott is next in line to score then?

James Marshall
86 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:50:57

Sopcast and TVants (among others) are not an exact science, you cant expect something free to be top quality Paul/Mick - they do work well sometimes and I’ve watched all EFC’s games in the PL this season perfectly online. You have to have great patience to get the feeds working and it helps if a) you get to the feed early, and b) you have a fast connection of 4Mb upwards.

Like I keep saying Paul, join the freefootball.org forum and you can get loads of advice, not to mention all the links to all the feeds for free footy not just in the PL, but Spain too - also feeds for cricket, boxing etc.

Paul McNeill
87 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:51:27

Nice one Mick. My brother seems to get it working evry time yet I cant??? Winds me up mate.......

Justin Widdop
88 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:51:56

Tony they can’t broadcast it because the OS site have it on and they just use the Radio Merseyside broadcast. The deal is that whenever the OS does a live game on the net Radio Merseyside can’t. Other wise no one would pay to join Everton TV if you could hear the same broadcast for free elsewhere!

Martin Beesley
89 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:48:28

I like Moyes in the main but find it hard to understand playing this side tonight with 3 defensive mids, especially when u look at the total football played by Arsenals team of 16 and 17 year olds last night, Wenger would have had Baxter playing tonight, he looked a gem to me in pre season.

Paul McNeill
90 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:54:04

James - Wise words. I'll have to check out the internet speed mate. Otherwise - just be patient.......

Mike Coates
91 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:55:40

One day I’ll move to England, set up a damn camera and stream it for you guys, promise :)

Even if its just one angle for an entire game.

Maybe one day I’ll buy TWO.. lol.

It is pretty ridiculous for no game on tv but.. CC just isn’t that important I guess.

Paul McNeill
92 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:56:36

Contary to popular opinion, I think Fellaini is a cracking passer of the ball and doesn't panic. He's only had 3 / 4 games.......

Mike Coates
93 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:59:08

In other news:

Portsmouth enroute for another 6 nil drubbing.

Brett Bradshaw
94 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:02:09

The Portsmouth that stuck 3 past us!

Brian Waring
95 Posted 24/09/2008 at 20:59:58

Martin, you are talking about Wenger though, comparing wenger and Moyes, is like comparing a faberge egg to a creme egg.

Justin Widdop
96 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:02:37

COYB - lets win this 2-1. Castillo off again and Fellaini and Yak & Cahill on.

Nick Veitch
97 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:01:52

Cahill and Yak on for Castillo and Fellaini.
Seems like we have a severely disjointed team.

Mike Coates
98 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:04:47

I wouldn’t have removed Castillo. Altho can’t SEE the actual game.

Cahill to score equaliser before YAK pummels 2 through.

Brett Bradshaw
99 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:05:28

Can someone let me know what formation we are now playing? 433 or a striker on a wing?

Lee Watters
100 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:07:08

442 with Vaughan on the wing...

Mike Coates
101 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:07:22

Baxter is penciled in as a forward.

How about 3rd sub = Lescott (to prevent the 4th own goal) and bring on the kid ;)

3 3 4

:)

Brett Bradshaw
102 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:08:39

Thanks Lee

Santosh Benjamin
103 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:06:52

Why was Castillo taken off? Silly decision...shoulda taken a another midfielder off...like the useless Jags....

Matthew Salem
104 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:10:41

I am unable to watch this, but judging from the radio commentary this is another game of canine-shite. What is going on with my beloved Everton?

Nick Veitch
105 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:14:06

Hey Mike, where in Oz are you watching the game?

James Marshall
106 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:14:42

We’re shit and we know we are....

2-0 Spurs

4-0 Chelsea

James Marshall
107 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:16:33

Paul Daniels is cup tied

justin Widdop
108 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:15:46

Lucky not to be 2 down. It is shocking!

Moyes needs to make some serious changes in defence as they are so low on confidence. Really cannot understand what has happened from last season and don’t say Lee Carsley...

Brian Waring
109 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:16:53

Let off the hook there, Derbyshire should have made it 2 - 0.

Mike Coates
110 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:17:07

Melb.

Waiting on Yak to link one-two with Saha.

Cahill or Osman score same as weekend.

Chris Halliday
111 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:19:41

If we get beat tonight... and let's be honest the odds are against us next week in Belgium... and we get beat there. Is Moyes's record in cups the worst for any manager in the Prem? Can?t be far off.

Barrie Hemsley
112 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:19:51

Admittedly we miss Carsley for defense, but the players we have are good enough to sort themselves out eventually.

I think we?re more in long term trouble due to the absolute lack of options to provide any width or creativity to our lads up front. If we could just feed them some chances, we?d take pressure off the whole team.

James Crolla
113 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:23:07

Barrie, I agree we are not creeating wings and we have struggled since we lost Pienaar to injury (our great run last year coincided with Pienaar hitting form!).

Not to worry though lads VDM is close to fitness?

Dan Machin
114 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:23:56

Anyone else think we are getting the least amount of update coverage on Sky Sports News!?

Justin Widdop
115 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:27:39

Dan... probably because there is nothing to report!

James Marshall
116 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:27:42

Dan, thats purely because our game is a pile of shit and nothing much is happening!

Justin Widdop
117 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:28:31

Vaughan on one wing and Cahill on the other... it is a joke!

Mike Coates
118 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:27:37

Who by the way is playing down our left wing?

Gavin Ramejkis
119 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:28:36

Anyone else think we are about to get absolutely twatted on Saturday given this pansy shite show tonight? I wouldn’t even call this alehouse football

justin Widdop
120 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:29:46

Cahill!!!

Mike Coates
121 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:29:47

Ok, that answers that then.

No wonder we’re doing so poorly.

Mike Coates
122 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:30:31

When Pienaar expected back?

Surprise start for him this Saturday? Since both Cahill and Saha caught us by surprise.

Matthew Salem
123 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:29:01

We?re pissing away our entire season in a span of 14 days. This is so depressing. I don?t buy this nonsense that it?s all because of Lee Carsley having left. Give me a break. We have a very strong squad on paper so there really are no excuses for this shite!

justin Widdop
124 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:31:45

Pienaar is meant to be a couple of weeks a way. If Saha has to play 90 mins tonight will he have enough in the tank for the derby?

James Marshall
125 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:28:34

Cahill heads over the bar.

Mike Coates
126 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:32:24

9 off target shots on goal, we gotta get 1 in 10!

justin Widdop
127 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:33:10

Flippin disallowed. Vaughan off a corner..

Nick Veitch
128 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:30:52

shit, disallowed goal.
We just need some bloody luck!

Mike Coates
129 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:33:17

Gamst and Santa on..

More likely they score than us now.

But will try and keep the faith :)

James Crolla
130 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:33:51

I hate football and I?m not looking forward to Saturday.

Martin Beesley
131 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:32:57

Sadly no chance of that Mike, I agree Matt, I fear our season is going tits up before its got started.

John Martin
132 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:36:58

We started with 3 defensive minded midfielders, I hope Moyes doesnt blame lack of creativity for the impending defeat a she picked the line up

James Marshall
133 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:37:41

Villa lost 1 nil home to QPR

Paul McNeill
134 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:39:18

If Paul Daniels is cup tied - do you reckon we could get Debbie McGee??

Justin Widdop
135 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:41:30

Baxter on for last 10 mins....

Dan Machin
136 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:41:54

Baxter on for Vaughan

Chris Halliday
137 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:38:44

14k fans at match and half of them from efc and we cannot muster a single shot on goal. God help us on Sat. Inactivity and no ambition this summer has cost us again...

Mike Coates
138 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:41:24

Ok, forward for a forward. Baxter on.

There goes my 4 forwards idea ;)

Paul McNeill
139 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:41:17

James - I’ll buy you 10 pints on sat if you get me watching the Blues on the net !

James Marshall;
140 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:42:05

I spose we could try her out in the middle of our defence

James Marshall
141 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:43:06

Paul, gis yer email address and I’ll sort you out mate.

Craig Ashford
142 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:42:43

Judgeing by the text I'm reading on Sky Sports, I get the impression Tim Howard's is having (for him) a good game.

paul mcneill
143 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:45:01

shall i post it here m8?

James Marshall
144 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:45:50

GOAL Brighton 2-1 Manchester City!!!!

Nick Veitch
145 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:46:01

Brighton 2-1 up in extra time again Man City.
You obviously can’t buy the Carling Cup then.

James Marshall
146 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:47:36

Yeah go for it, or do it in code....or send a carrier pigeon - your call.

Mike Whittaker
147 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:43:37

Moyes is a great cup tie manager dont you think?

Terry Smith
148 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:42:11

Just been listening to that shite on Radio City and had to turn it off and fuck Everton right off. I'm sick of them. No spirit. No leader. No talk. NO DIRECTION. We have only picked up 7 points from 3 promoted teams and coneeded in every game...

Santosh Benjamin
149 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:46:48

Outta 1 cup.....UEFA cup run will be over soon too....not lookin forward to a thrashing by the RS on Saturday....we are playing like shit...absolute shambles

Donal Crotty
150 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:43:01

Mike Coates - Are you a 12yr old girl lol, OMG, IMO, :) :)

James Marshall
151 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:48:54

But thats 2 wins and a draw Terry?

Paul McNeill
152 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:48:57

Ok mate. No code / no feathers. springwell8@aol.com... when shall i log on to check??

Barry Cass
153 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:50:22

We are awful!! Steve Round?????

Season over in September me thinks...

Nick Veitch
154 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:49:26

Moyes really needs to work out how we can keep possession better. Hoof ball is well and truly back in fashion in Everton and it’s so uneffective.
You require a lot of luck to be successful using such a pathetic strategy.

James Marshall
155 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:51:30

Paul - be online Saturday morning, get onto the freefootball.org forum and check the links page. You’ll find all you need there and I’ll be about too - will email you now so you have my address.

Install sopcast and TVants before Saturday.

Brian Waring
156 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:50:51

Ronnie Goodlass said it all "we are just playing 40-yard balls up".

Dan Machin
157 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:53:34

Its all over, what a joke

Eric Holland
158 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:53:10

SACK Moyes and Round and the board.
and me.

Santosh Benjamin
159 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:54:16

Bunch of overpaid fools...no passion..no heart

Ralph Wetzels
160 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:54:04

That’s an early exit from one cup competition. Moyes is never gonna win us silverware. Hoofball, hoofball is all I hear and see. This manager is not getting us forward.

Mike Coates
161 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:53:08

Yes.. Yes I am.

No, sorry to disappoint, 29 yr old boy.. lol

Far out, beer back in fridge.. Off to bed.

Disappointing but I guess not unexpected.

Gnite all.

Nick Veitch
162 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:52:32

Some of you guys really need to get a grip. it’s not the end of the world at the moment. We’re not playing well but we have a lot of new players. Tonight we would have been much better if Arteta and Pienaar were playing. We’re in desperate need of players that can keep control of the ball, and as soon as we have a fully fit team, we should come good. The defence is shaky at the moment, but last season was proof that they can work together.
Give it time guys. We’ll turn our fortunes around. There’s far too much class in our team for it to go that bad.
Chin up lads...

Eric Holland
163 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:55:42

There is always Saturday to look forward to........ Not!!

Kevin Tonks
164 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:52:19

Moyes £17m contract.....???? Rubbish!!! Absolute rubbish, Moyes.

Terry Smith
165 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:54:35

Why did we buy Saha if we are going to go back to the Hoof-the-Ball days. We should've bought Crouch or some other 7ft freek plus Unsworth to join the sonic boom hoofers...... swap Round & Stubbs

Ralph Wetzels
166 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:57:23

I’m not looking forward to Saturday. I’m shitting my pants already, honest. A fit Arteta, please (in central midfield).

John Martin
167 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:55:40

Of course it's gonna be hoofball; apart from Osman tonight, who in the starting line-up can actually keep the ball and pass it comfortably? We are a joke, the disastrous summer transfer policy has hit home. Moyes and the board have ruined our season. We will be thrashed on Saturday, I fear what will happen. They will be full of confidence and in Gerrard and Torres they will rip our defence apart.

James Marshall
168 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:58:56

Paul, I emailed you mate.

I reckon we’ll win on Saturday.

Peter Fearon
169 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:56:36

Well clearly that was a result that Moyes wanted or was at the very least was prepared to accept. We will never advance unless we are prepared to make an effort in the so called "lesser" competitions. Fielding a weakened team to me is no better than throwing a game.

Gavin Ramejkis
170 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:58:17

Send Moyes and that cunt Steve Round back to the skunks. We are shite.

Jimmy Crack
171 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:57:57

Agreed, KT

A $17m contract for a manager who hasnt won any silverware? (and doesn’t look like he’s going to anytime soon either)

Nil Satis

Barrie Hemsley
172 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:55:20

Anyone know any decent unregistered players we can pick up? I know it?s a desperate move, but we are officially shocking and need 1 or 2 more players as there is clearly no strength in depth. I?d have rather us played Stelios, who was free up to yesterday, than the midfield we started today.

I cannot believe I?ve just typed that, and then sent it in. How have things gone so bad so quickly? What has happened?

Terry Downes
173 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:56:27

Well, how good is this? If we lose to Standard then our season's almost over ? and it isn't even November... OUTFUCKINGSTANDING

Wayne Smyth
174 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:55:04

Manager and board have to take responsibility for lack of appropriate signings I think. We have no proper wide players, no-one who can create. Even Arteta is a CM and looks much better in that position.

We had Vaughan, Rodwell, Ossie and Cahill on the wings at times tonight. Too many square pegs in round holes. Too many defensive midfielders. You can?t blame the players if the balance of the side is completely out of whack.

Stephen Stuart
175 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:56:02

Yet another cup that Moyes can?t win - hope he takes the Newcastle job!

Andy Spence
176 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:52:51

Didn't go to the game (thank fuck) but going off the commentary on Radio City we sounded absolute shite again. Did we have 1 shot on target?

Fuckin dreading saturday and don't hold much hope out for Belgium the way we are "playing" so far this season.

How long till we start to see posts claiming we wasted £15 mill? How did our 2 new signings do? We gotta give them time to settle, I just hope they learn quickly. Still, it's all part of being a blue isn't it? C O Y B

Terry Smith
177 Posted 24/09/2008 at 22:00:18

FAO Nick V..... We are supposed to be building on from last year! We are already out of 1 cup and looks like we could be on our way out of Europe. There are plenty of reasons to panic....

Martin Beesley
178 Posted 24/09/2008 at 21:59:52

I agree John, the start of the season is down to the disastrous summer transfer policy, Board and Moyes have a lot to answer for.

Andrew McGreavy
179 Posted 24/09/2008 at 22:00:24

For just £17,500,000 NETT of 40% tax, we can have five more years of this. LOL if it wasn’t so serious.

Anthony Keating
180 Posted 24/09/2008 at 22:04:11

Out of yet another fucking cup. Pathetic.

Harvey Smith
181 Posted 24/09/2008 at 22:02:07

I?ll be the first to say it, shall I?

Glad that?s over with, we can concentrate on the league now...

[sarcasm mode]

Nick Veitch
182 Posted 24/09/2008 at 22:04:23

Terry, of course we are supposed to be building on from last season. We could be out of Europe soon but we?re not as yet. We?re 9th in the league, but it?s early days. String a few wins together and see us climb up the table. I know it?s hard to see that given the shite football being served up (and i do get just annoyed as the next blue about how crap it is at the moment) but I think it will come good.

It was no fluke last season conceding so few goals. Our defence has not changed (bar one Mr Carsley), and I?m not of the view it?s down to him alone. It?s just been complacency and individual errors on behalf of each of the back four. It?s been shit seeing us play so bad, and I know cup competitions are a good chance to get some exposure, but we haven?t ?ruined? our season as so many are claiming. It?s still mid-September for Christ's sake. Lots to play for.

Let?s start by beating the red shite this weekend. COYB!!!