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Captain Arteta!
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A nice positive line up. Come on you blues, lets smash the barcodes!!!
Arteta, deliver today, please.
Sean Thompson, Posted 05/10/2008 at 15:39:34
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Anyone got a link to watch the match online please?
WARNING... I might well have misheard...
Just caught the tail end of Moyes interview on Sky.
The interviewer asked him what prompted him to finally sign his contract.
Anyone?
Just caught the tail end of Moyes interview on Sky.
The interviewer asked him what prompted him to finally sign his contract.
Anyone?
Looks like he's on the wing.
Liverpool Villa and Spurs losing! Stating the obvious but God we need a win today! COYB!!!
Im watching it on http://www.justin.tv/eminem155th
great start good positive team and baines given a chance!!! saha and yak will kill em
love peanuts too!!
love peanuts too!!
hes the best little spaniard we know!!!!
Since we scored they have had most of the ball! Need to get a grip!
still not sure about screech he seems to be reluctant to go forward when he has the ball, hes like a crab always sideways!!!
Saved by the bell !!
shit now he scores!!!!
LOVING THIS 442... The Yak and Saha, with the wide guys and Bains pushing up... ahhhhhh
Actually Arteta and Pienaar are both working the left... woah, a tactic from Moyes!
Pienaars made a big difference to us moving forward! Much more confidence across the midfield and from the back so far today!
peanuts has been the major difference and baines has been great, i have always wanted him in the team natural left foot good cross and goes forward lescott better CB....
want saha to have the ball to feet and he will score....
want saha to have the ball to feet and he will score....
I know its only Newcastle but surely this first half is proof that Neville should never grace our midfield again! Im feeling quite positive for the first time in ages!
While newcastle do blow, its good to see some more passing and movement in midfield
But Pip will be back in there when fit, its inevitable.
But Pip will be back in there when fit, its inevitable.
what was i saying? BALLS!
How long does Bruce Grobelaar think he can get away with operating under this "Tim Howard" pseudonym ?
T Y P I C A L
Anyone who wants to watch online, this is a great feed - and full screen too.
http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/311017
http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/311017
You said it, Nick. It will be a nervy second-half.
Butt should have been sent off, should have been his 2nd yellow, shame he was not booked previously for 2 bad fouls
So much for a clean sheet!
Lets just go and get a couple more goals in the 2nd half
So much for a clean sheet!
Lets just go and get a couple more goals in the 2nd half
mmmm... not like Hibbert to be caught out of position. Useless cunt.
I’m watching the game live in Malaysia.
We let in a goal at the last minute of the first half!!.... Damn... looks like we havent solve that problem yet eh...
We let in a goal at the last minute of the first half!!.... Damn... looks like we havent solve that problem yet eh...
oh good, Liverpool have just won as well, what great fucking 2 minutes these have been
well just when we thought it would be easy, i was just saying i can see us scoring a hatful today but we let a soft goal in and will prob be shitting it now for 45 mins so they will get another and it will be 2-2 and a crap 3 point lost. why cant we just focus for one whole game...
we have goals in us just hope its more than the mistakes in us
we have goals in us just hope its more than the mistakes in us
Though the shite were 2-0 down?
Tim Howard is utter shite. Peanuts best player on park. But fucking Howard. Shite.
Dirk Cunt bloody scored after the ladyboy grabbed a couple for the shite!
Hibbert just seems to lose his man constantly when the ball is whipped in from the Right!
Howards is not dominated the area like he can do!
Great to see Peanuts back, best player on the park and linking well with Baines.
Howards is not dominated the area like he can do!
Great to see Peanuts back, best player on the park and linking well with Baines.
classic horrible goal, cheap give away, goal keeper drifting out into no mans land instead of movinga cross his line, and small right back caught ot at back post
If we play how we have im sure we will be fine, but im sure we will bring on Anichebe and start punting the ball up field,l giving them possesion
If we play how we have im sure we will be fine, but im sure we will bring on Anichebe and start punting the ball up field,l giving them possesion
I don’t know what it is about the shite. They somehow have a pact with the devil. How can those shit players keep doing what they do.
I don’t know if there is a Romanian word with a different meaning but prior to his goal Fellaini got out jumped by a midget and the Romanian
commentator said "Fellaini Shite". I didn’t understand what he said about Howard but I would assume it was uncomplimentary because they have been talking about him a lot and I haven’t seen him do anything good.
commentator said "Fellaini Shite". I didn’t understand what he said about Howard but I would assume it was uncomplimentary because they have been talking about him a lot and I haven’t seen him do anything good.
The goal was the Yaks fault, he gives it away stupidly in the 46th min and there goal came direct from that, same as Arteta in the derby.
Howard just jumps up waving him arms and legs like a mad man hoping to stop what??!!
Why cant he just be cool and know what he’s doing man?! Geez
Why cant he just be cool and know what he’s doing man?! Geez
Is it just me, or does there seem to be a nice balance to the team today?
Osman looks so much better in the middle of the park. Pienaar back seems to have taken some of the pressure of Arteta, he looks so much more comfortable today. The back 4 (apart from the goal ) look solid. No Neville = no hoofball? The only grey cloud on the horizon, is with Man u and Arsenal coming up, you can see Moyes going back to 4-5-1, and Neville (if fit ) coming back in.
I reckon we have have to much for the Geordies today, and should go on to get a couple more. Also, nice to see Fellaini bag one.
Osman looks so much better in the middle of the park. Pienaar back seems to have taken some of the pressure of Arteta, he looks so much more comfortable today. The back 4 (apart from the goal ) look solid. No Neville = no hoofball? The only grey cloud on the horizon, is with Man u and Arsenal coming up, you can see Moyes going back to 4-5-1, and Neville (if fit ) coming back in.
I reckon we have have to much for the Geordies today, and should go on to get a couple more. Also, nice to see Fellaini bag one.
With you there Brian, shame Saha was taken out the one time he had chance to shine. 442 from now on please...
cock
cue the long ball village football
cue the long ball village football
Oh yeah, Peanuts gives us a big time upgrade in the middle of the park. Thank God he’s not in prison....oh fuck me, it’s 2-2.
Oh fuck!
this isnt fucking funny
We are sooooooooooooo awful!
What is wrong with this team?
And I thought we were gonna run out with a 10-0 win today.
!@#$!!!!
!@#$!!!!
What the hell happened? My comp froze at kick off and its 2-2!
Any streams? the three which were working have all died
http://www.justin.tv/pp_6
Mines working fine here
http://www.justin.tv/eminem155th
http://www.justin.tv/eminem155th
My mate here says that Everton’s gonna win this match 10-9 ... so no worries
cheers
I would get Hibbert the fuck off the pitch, chuck Yobo at RB!
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=20249&part=sports
Saha is the invisible man....
We need Vaughan on!
We need Vaughan on!
Get up Guthrie
For a short guy like Given, he is more assured to come for crosses aint he? Damn! Let’s swap Howard for Given.
Get Saha, Pienaar and Hibbert off now.
oh god anichebe...we are about to become more long ball than a kinnear managed team
Even when we were winning 2-0, I knew they would come back to draw or maybe even win.
2 goals a game we ship fella’s, every time....
Hibbert boots it aimlessly into the sky, then a short backheader which nearly gives ameobi a free run.
JV on with 6 minutes to go. That was brave Moyes.
i can not believe we were 2-0 up and now its 2-2 how can we not see a game out against them what a joke it has ruined my weekend and makes me so angry to be an evertonian
I don’t know if any one has the commentary with Robbie Earl but he’s baaaad... this was so much better, but still not good enough
Agreed we played badly in the 2nd half..and im sure i will get stick for this but i have to say this...Up yours,Howard Webb...you ruined the game. I also hate the way Andy Gray always enjoys injustice against us...i know he was great for us in the past..but he is no Evertonian now..
Oh dear. 15 games without a clean sheet. Not good.
Great 1st half, awful 2nd half, caught cold for the 2nd goal - pretty fair result overall. We looked alot better today in the 1st half and Newcastle played the best they’ve played all season in the 2nd half.
Rob Lyons - relax mate, thats football and its whywe love it.
The RS won 3-2 after being 2 down so it can happen to anyone.
Onward & upward, some good performances and DM can be proud of his players and his own choices today; he’s been pretty brave going with a 442 and putting on 2 strikers near the end to try & win it.
No need to slate anyone - I thought it was quite enojyable to watch myself.
Rob Lyons - relax mate, thats football and its whywe love it.
The RS won 3-2 after being 2 down so it can happen to anyone.
Onward & upward, some good performances and DM can be proud of his players and his own choices today; he’s been pretty brave going with a 442 and putting on 2 strikers near the end to try & win it.
No need to slate anyone - I thought it was quite enojyable to watch myself.
We are officially worse than Newcastle. With all the problems they have at the club, they still could come here and draw with us after being 2 nil down. Hats off to them.
So could this be the end of Moyes?
So could this be the end of Moyes?
May get stick for this, but WELL DONE LADS!!!
We played well, at times like last year and though we continue to leak goals, we showed that we have not lost the plot after the UEFA exit..
I think well done Moyes, he played a poisitve team and ended with a 4-3-3.. Credit where credit is due, we played well and if we play like this and stop the goals, we can again start to win and climb up.. All in all, not happy but satisfied!!
We played well, at times like last year and though we continue to leak goals, we showed that we have not lost the plot after the UEFA exit..
I think well done Moyes, he played a poisitve team and ended with a 4-3-3.. Credit where credit is due, we played well and if we play like this and stop the goals, we can again start to win and climb up.. All in all, not happy but satisfied!!
that was one of the worst 45 minutes i,ve ever seen, what the hell was moyes,s speech about or did corporal jones do it paaaanic. for god sakes get daveyboy a taxi now
WHAT THE FUCK is goin on with our defence. They are playing like theyre on roller skates. This is one of the worst 2 weeks in our history. Out of league cup , out of europe , lose the derby and lose a 2 goal lead at home.
I hope Yakubu got bollocked for the first goal they got. Baines had a good game and Osman played really well today but we looked shite at the back. I just cant understand it, we have no penetration and again Arteta was awful. I cannot believe we have gotten so bad that a club in meltdown and 2nd bottom like Newcastle comes and can boss us around the park. We are shite. End of story. SHITE SHITE SHITE
I hope Yakubu got bollocked for the first goal they got. Baines had a good game and Osman played really well today but we looked shite at the back. I just cant understand it, we have no penetration and again Arteta was awful. I cannot believe we have gotten so bad that a club in meltdown and 2nd bottom like Newcastle comes and can boss us around the park. We are shite. End of story. SHITE SHITE SHITE
I can’t believe that the team I made a comment on at half time, was the same team that came out for the 2nd.
The booing at the end, says it all really.
The booing at the end, says it all really.
Whats all this end of Moyes bollocks? Give it a rest Kevin, we’d be fucked without him.
Look at Newcastle, they sack Keegan and nobody wants to manage them so they end with Kinnear in charge - is that what you want for us??!
Look at Newcastle, they sack Keegan and nobody wants to manage them so they end with Kinnear in charge - is that what you want for us??!
James... relax dude. I was only asking a question. You have a cucumber up your ass or what?
Only one effort on goal in the second half, by Anichebe. Does that mean in the next five years this team will be able to maybe get two shots on goal?? How long does it take? How much more of this shit to come?
Rubbish!! just absolute rubbish that was!....This Fellaini fella is no replacement for Carsley, he aint no defensive midfielder, simply didn’t see him put a challenge in throughout the 90 mins.
james are you really telling us that you are happy to watch that shit every week
Thanks Stef!!
Enjoyable???
You wouldn’t be saying that if you knew what fixtures were coming up next. Things are going to get a whole lot worse and today could have at least given us a bit of breathing space and restored some confidence. Gifting a 2-0 lead to a completely rudderless club. Cue the Moyes apologists. Sorry to say it folks but were FUCKED
You wouldn’t be saying that if you knew what fixtures were coming up next. Things are going to get a whole lot worse and today could have at least given us a bit of breathing space and restored some confidence. Gifting a 2-0 lead to a completely rudderless club. Cue the Moyes apologists. Sorry to say it folks but were FUCKED
we still have the team to do the business but are rudderless cos the manager has gone missing in some sort of shell afraid to try anything different
We were great in the 1st half, awful in the 2nd, but I just have a more balanced view than you is all - all you’ve said is ’we’re shit, I’m sick of it’ etc etc, you dont seem to offer any praise for a team thats struggling. Maybe I’m able to see the positive nature of things where you’re not, but to say this could be the end of Moyes is just knee-jerk and reactionary.
i have to say i thought webby had quite a good game except for one thing. what on earth did he have against Fellaini. Every time he went near the ball for a tackle he was pulled up for a foul.
what’s going on i thought Fellaini was defo going to get sent off.
Apart from the penalty Arteta was so ineffective today. His compass his weight of kick was completely shot to pieces. I think moyes should bite the bullet and give Arteta a fortnight on the bench it seems he needs to sort his head out.
Dont you just just hate it when after being goals up you then draw and it feels like a defeat
yours truly,
J.J. Nonails left!
what’s going on i thought Fellaini was defo going to get sent off.
Apart from the penalty Arteta was so ineffective today. His compass his weight of kick was completely shot to pieces. I think moyes should bite the bullet and give Arteta a fortnight on the bench it seems he needs to sort his head out.
Dont you just just hate it when after being goals up you then draw and it feels like a defeat
yours truly,
J.J. Nonails left!
also james get your facts right. newcastle are not allowed to appoint a fulltime manager til the takeover is completed. the people who,ve turned it down didnt want it part-time. also ideas for us would be ten cate and bilic
that was the worst 2nd half in a long time. how anyone can take pleasure from that is beyond me
Varun, sorry but u are clearly insane if us goin 4-3-3 is a credit to Moyes, for God’s sake he was desperate.
The team have clearly lost the plot and Moyes looked truly shell shocked on the touchline
Yet again we miss a true leader on the park, no one seemed to want to grab the game by the scruff of the neck
Newcastle wud have one if Baines hadn’t cleared it off the line
Give Moyes credit for alot of his time at EFC but today clearly shows that a situation like today seems beyond him. If u dont believe me watch that last 45 mins again and watch Moyes too
he had no idea what to do
Varun, sorry but u are clearly insane if us goin 4-3-3 is a credit to Moyes, for God’s sake he was desperate.
The team have clearly lost the plot and Moyes looked truly shell shocked on the touchline
Yet again we miss a true leader on the park, no one seemed to want to grab the game by the scruff of the neck
Newcastle wud have one if Baines hadn’t cleared it off the line
Give Moyes credit for alot of his time at EFC but today clearly shows that a situation like today seems beyond him. If u dont believe me watch that last 45 mins again and watch Moyes too
he had no idea what to do
Ok James... You’re the boss!! You WIN....
The whole team played wonderful today. We were so great to watch and Moyes will be our manager for the next 20 years.
The whole team played wonderful today. We were so great to watch and Moyes will be our manager for the next 20 years.
Moyes to walk to White Hart Lane anyone?
Wonder if we could snare Ramos and go swappsie... Why stop there.. we could prob use a decent keeper and a right back and a defensive midfielder and a ..... give Moyes a chance, he’s only been here for 7 years.
Wonder if we could snare Ramos and go swappsie... Why stop there.. we could prob use a decent keeper and a right back and a defensive midfielder and a ..... give Moyes a chance, he’s only been here for 7 years.
The thing that worries me is that it doesn?t look like Hull and West Brom are going to get relegated this season and I expect Spurs to turn the corner at some point soon. Arsenal and Man U next and the same sorry arses coming on here afterwards no doubt saying we should be grateful for Moyes...
Kevin - you just proved my point though mate, inability to have a balanced view! :)
Stef - I didnt say anything about facts, I simply said that Newcastle had ended up with Kinnear. Also, where exactly does it state that Newcastle are "not allowed" to appoint a full time manager?? I would suggest that isn’t a fact at all.
Stef - I didnt say anything about facts, I simply said that Newcastle had ended up with Kinnear. Also, where exactly does it state that Newcastle are "not allowed" to appoint a full time manager?? I would suggest that isn’t a fact at all.
Why were we so awful the second half then? Did we become more withdrawn, more negative, more hoofball if you say yes to any of them ask why? The message from the dressing room was hardly positive.
Hey look on the bright side, if we get relegated at least we stand a better chance of winning some silverware - the 1st division title!!!
(James I’m only kidding... dont get upset)
(James I’m only kidding... dont get upset)
Mike Ashley said it was stipulated by the interested parties common sense I think. If any of the rumours of us being taken over are true, do you think they want a manager who's on the ropes with a brand new 4-year contract?
Anthony: West Brom? They are worse than us, them and Stoke are defo?s for the drop IMO. Then theres the pulp of the Fulhams of the world. So at least we have a fighting chance. Bit of a difference from last season though.. almost like we are going backwards in terms of improvement. Hmmmm. Solution: Pay the manager £17m quid. That should do it.
Stef - we were awful in the 2nd half as I said in my first post! Lescott & Jags play the ball long too often yes, but is that DM?s fault? I dunno, could it be that they don't know what else to do because they?re not very cultured defenders?
The message from the dressing room is negative of course, something else I already mentioned ? why? Because of everything that happened in the summer, the exit from Europe, the lack of signing etc etc, theres loads of reasons, but if you think that the only answer is that the manager has gone AWOL, then I think you?re insane!
Over the course of the season we?ll be ok, we?ve had a bad start but I?m confident it?ll pickup.
In the meantime, you can carry on being negative, I?m off to get on with my life.
See ya.
The message from the dressing room is negative of course, something else I already mentioned ? why? Because of everything that happened in the summer, the exit from Europe, the lack of signing etc etc, theres loads of reasons, but if you think that the only answer is that the manager has gone AWOL, then I think you?re insane!
Over the course of the season we?ll be ok, we?ve had a bad start but I?m confident it?ll pickup.
In the meantime, you can carry on being negative, I?m off to get on with my life.
See ya.
One last thing, Stef, I think you read too many papers mate!
The South African bloke whose supposed to be interested was on the radio yesterday and he said he wasnt even interested in football, let alone Newcastle!
The South African bloke whose supposed to be interested was on the radio yesterday and he said he wasnt even interested in football, let alone Newcastle!
West Brom can string two back to back wins together which is a damn sight better than us. Go to Arsenal and lose 1-0 whereas we?ll get hosed. I really don?t see where two wins on the bounce are going to come from. On paper, our start to the season was a real opportunity to establish a decent position in the league before the tougher challenges came. Well, were virtually relegation fodder and now come the tough games. The side has no character, players are enveloped with fear, there is no leadership, no spirit of adventure. Things are not looking good.
James - 2 points:
1. Nice to see an abject everton display and the pain of losing a home 2 goal lead doesnt affect you too much - what a marvellous toffee you must be. For me and others, it takes days, weeks, and longer to get over the massive disappointment - sad little lifeless bastards that we are ey.
2. Is it DM?s fault that we play hoofball you ask? Of course not you idiot! Its Bin Laden?s fault. Or erm the queen. No, George Bush? Let me know when I get close, because I thought our tactics were given out by our manager. Shows what an idiot I am.
1. Nice to see an abject everton display and the pain of losing a home 2 goal lead doesnt affect you too much - what a marvellous toffee you must be. For me and others, it takes days, weeks, and longer to get over the massive disappointment - sad little lifeless bastards that we are ey.
2. Is it DM?s fault that we play hoofball you ask? Of course not you idiot! Its Bin Laden?s fault. Or erm the queen. No, George Bush? Let me know when I get close, because I thought our tactics were given out by our manager. Shows what an idiot I am.
Wont argue with those comments Anthony. And with Fellaini and Cahill in the side, we can say goodbye to a back door into europe via the fairplay league.
james i,m a very positive person and a very positive evertonian just like you but,david moyes is negative and is dragging us down. can you remember the season when we qualified for the champs leauge. we were flying high with 451 football then after the new year every team worked out how to combat that. did moyes change anything NO. as a result we won 2-3 from then and finished fourth because the teams below were shite ,not the fact we were good. moyes has not progressed since then thats just mho so its not a knee jerk reaction especially our current run of dodgy forms goes back to feb-march and the fiorentina game
I’m about to jib this completely, too fucking depressing. Would rather spend a few hours weeding the garden and the missus doesn’t have to put up with me being a narky bastard. Moyes signing for 5 years will be the end for me. Completely Serious
The thing is, James, when do you start worrying? You keep saying "We are on a bad run, and we will come good." By then though, it could be too late to challenge for a top 5 place. If we get beat by Man Utd and Arsenal, you will probalby say, "There is still nothing to worry about," because you expected us to lose those 2 games. I think there was plenty there today (those who were left by the end of the game) who were far from happy, which was shown by the booing.
Oh and as for me being insane, James, all the excuses you put forward ? Moyes was involved in varying degrees on all those points.
I can't take much more... this has to be the most stressful club ever to follow. I'm sure it will come good again and bad, but then we will always be a mid-table club unless we get the billionare owner (ha ha!) ? we can only wish. Can?t wait for the next two games :-). BTW, love the bitching in the threads ? haha ? cheers me up.
Wasn?t it ace not having Neville in the team?
Apart from that, who do we balme for the abject failure to beat a team without a proper manager?
Moyes is a disgrace. His haggling over his contract must distract the team.
Howard has to be dropped. If it wasn?t for Baines he would nave conceded several more today. I would rather have Nash than Howard on this form.
Yak needs to be dropped too as Anichebe deserves a run.
Flat track Arteta! You can see why none of the Sky 4 want him.
I thought Osman did well today and good to see Fellatio score.
Apart from that, who do we balme for the abject failure to beat a team without a proper manager?
Moyes is a disgrace. His haggling over his contract must distract the team.
Howard has to be dropped. If it wasn?t for Baines he would nave conceded several more today. I would rather have Nash than Howard on this form.
Yak needs to be dropped too as Anichebe deserves a run.
Flat track Arteta! You can see why none of the Sky 4 want him.
I thought Osman did well today and good to see Fellatio score.
Simply awful performance today, I?m not sure I agree with those who say we played well first half I thought it was more a case of Newcastle playing particularly poorly, though I thought Baines and Fellaini were both outstanding. Arteta was poor by his own standards and Saha might as well have stayed in the dressing room as he contributed absolutely nothing throughout the entire game. Why on earth did Moyes leave it so late to replace him??? Hibbert has gone to sleep in two consecutive games now, allowing players to arrive at the far post on each occasion. Well, it looks as though its going to be a long hard season from here on in.
Why can?t we ever play positive attacking football at home? We never seem to have midfielders pouring forward in support like Newcastle had today, especially for their 2nd goal.
Moyes badly needs to instill confidence and self-belief in the squad, and fast!
Moyes badly needs to instill confidence and self-belief in the squad, and fast!
Arteta is a wholy disgrace to all great Everton skippers over the years....
It's a sad state of affairs when this half-arsed shithouse gets the armband... Shame on you Moyes
Fuck off to Spain, Arteta, if yer not arsed about us anymore...
It's a sad state of affairs when this half-arsed shithouse gets the armband... Shame on you Moyes
Fuck off to Spain, Arteta, if yer not arsed about us anymore...
I think it?s all gone wrong since we swapped white nets with black ones!!
Just recovering from the debacle, I offer the opinion that although the defence as a whole has been inconsistent this season, the underlying problem lies with the full backs. Hibbert is simply useless (I cannot totally respect Moyes as long as he continues to pick Hibbert) and Baines is too small. It seemed to me that Newcastle deliberately targeted Baines in the second half with the high ball inside the fullback. Having said that, Baines had a reasonable game but that cannot alter his size ? or lack of it.
But with one full back a liability and the other too small, no wonder the centre backs are living on their nerves all the time!
But with one full back a liability and the other too small, no wonder the centre backs are living on their nerves all the time!
So what was the reason when Lescott was playing left back, Ray?
Surprised Neville hasn't been blamed for todays gutless showing. From the minute Yakuba lazily lost the ball to lead to their goal, we were awful; up until then, we at least played a little bit of football. The 2nd half was shocking and once again Moyes was terrified to try something different, Vaughan was given 6 minutes and immediatley the tempo was upped but Moyes seems scared to try anything different, which is why he will never be a top class manager. As for our new captain fantastic, once again MIA as I expected. We are in a relegation struggle and having to watch some terrible football, some people are happy to accept it ? I am not.
Nobody can ever fault David Moyes for what he has brought to this club since he arrived, helping us avoid relegation in his 1st season, or part season, and for helping the club achieve European place finishes for 3 out of 5 seasons, that in itself is pretty impressive.
Ok, now the accolade is out the way, let's look at the bad bits on Mr Moyes's CV: cup defeats to Shrewsbury and Oldham that were so embarrassing; poor performances in Europe, last season excluded; the 7-0 thrashing at Arsenal; 6-2 thrashing at Newcastle; 2005-06 season where we finished 17th and lost 3 games 4-0 ? Villa, West Brom and Bolton; and finally Moyes's lack of bollocks in the merseyside derbies; Hibbert right back and Neville midfield every time ? it doesn't work.
On a final note, since Dave took over, how many times have we won at Anfield, Stamford Bridge, Old Trafford or any of the Arsenal grounds? Answer is none. I hereby rest my case. Time for Davey to check out.
Brian, I have no idea why Lescott has lost his poise ? you have got me there. However, I think that a confident Lescott at left back is a better overall proposition than Baines at left back ? despite the fact that Baines is probably a better footballer.
As for the other guy at right back, I think Yakubu would make a better fist of it!
As for the other guy at right back, I think Yakubu would make a better fist of it!
Cue some more rallying cries & "We owe the fans a performance" bollocks on the official site!
The only positive I took from today?s game was that I saved the £80 it normally costs me & my daughter to attend a match.
The only positive I took from today?s game was that I saved the £80 it normally costs me & my daughter to attend a match.
Tim Howard nailed to his line yet again. He?s having a nightmarey. And just watch how easily Duff looses Hibbert to score. Shocking.
Ray, I?m baffled by your comments about Baines he was awarded MOM. How on earth do you arrive at your conclusions? We conceded the first goal as a result of Hibbert?s failure to pick up his man. As for the second goal, Pienaar failed to follow the runner, Baines was in no way involved.
As for the game in Belgium, Baines succeeded in doing exactly what Lescoot failed to do ? he matched the runs of Dalmat prompting the match commentators to add that Dalmat failed to influence the game in the way he had done so well at Goodison.
Osman shite. Hibbert Shite.
Baines Man of the Match.
Fellaini a £5m player at most.
Moyes a man who has ran out of ideas.
Baines Man of the Match.
Fellaini a £5m player at most.
Moyes a man who has ran out of ideas.
What are people going to do?? No Neville to blame for the result......Hibbert was good today though wasn’t he? Two excellent headers to their centre forwards - one in each half. A few boots up the wing and out of play......some great 5 yard passes to Jagielka..... Fucking clueless....but no doubt better than Neville eh?
This team just gets worse.How the fuck can you throw away a two goal lead against a team on a worse run and in a worse position than us?Tim Howard is fucking woeful,the last few goals he has let in have all been close to him to the point that in my opinion they could have been saved even by me!!!! instead he just flaps his arms about and looks like a rabbit in the headlights......drop the fucker!!!!!....Tony Hibbert is equally woeful and needs shooting as he just ball watches and does not mark his man,the Yak suddenly thinks he is Cristiano Ronaldo and keeps taking a dive when he should be strong enough to hussle people off the ball like he has done in the past and finally Felliani is not a box to box midfielder OR a defensive one at best...get Castillo back in the side he at least seems to know his position and likes a crack at goal......Moyes you have youre work cut out boy cos this team is a shadow of its former self and slipping fast....get it sorted.........
So has the fact that DM bought a right back who by all accounts can actually play football (unlike the two current contenders) slipped by most of you? We will be fine after Christmas!!!!!!!!
Blame the summer, Blame DK
I?m just hoping Moyes is given the leeway to do another 12 months to show us what he could do perchance he gets a budget (if we are taken over) as I don?t see any world-beaters in the queue to replace him.
That said, he wasted every penny of the rooney £23m on Beattie, Davies, Krøldrup and Neville ? all duds, so I?m not holding my breath.
That said, he wasted every penny of the rooney £23m on Beattie, Davies, Krøldrup and Neville ? all duds, so I?m not holding my breath.
Brian, I think we?ve already shot our bolt when it comes to a top 5 spot - I?d say top 7 (UEFA Cup?) might be possible, but even that might be out of our reach.
Arsenal are beatable, Hull and Sunderland have shown that, whether we can beat them is another matter entirely.
Joeynkoo ? thanks for the abuse, but when you say that DM?s tactics are simply to play hoofball, yeah I disagree ? I think Lescott and Jags play that way, but the rest of them try to play it on the deck as much as possible. We struggle with people like Hibbert being asked to play wing-back because he?s simply not up to the task. Our other midfielders played some decent stuff today (1st half) and if you look at the Opta stats you?ll see that across the PL we tend NOT to play the long ball as much as a lot of people think.
Theres not getting away from the fact that we?re shit at the back, but apart from the defence I?d say we?re playing OK ? having said that, a good defence is obviously integral to playing well so we?re fucked at the moment!
Arsenal are beatable, Hull and Sunderland have shown that, whether we can beat them is another matter entirely.
Joeynkoo ? thanks for the abuse, but when you say that DM?s tactics are simply to play hoofball, yeah I disagree ? I think Lescott and Jags play that way, but the rest of them try to play it on the deck as much as possible. We struggle with people like Hibbert being asked to play wing-back because he?s simply not up to the task. Our other midfielders played some decent stuff today (1st half) and if you look at the Opta stats you?ll see that across the PL we tend NOT to play the long ball as much as a lot of people think.
Theres not getting away from the fact that we?re shit at the back, but apart from the defence I?d say we?re playing OK ? having said that, a good defence is obviously integral to playing well so we?re fucked at the moment!
James Marshall,
I found a nail outside the ground before the match. Could it be yours? Attached was part of a Season ticket!!!!
I found a nail outside the ground before the match. Could it be yours? Attached was part of a Season ticket!!!!
James - you wrote: "...you can carry on being negative, I?m off to get on with my life." That just smacks of someone who doesn?t let Everton affect them that much.
Regards hoofball. Now then, you claim that DM doesn't want to play it, but that certain players repeatedly do so. What would you do as manager in that situation? Some players are deliberately ignoring your instructions, and we are losing goals and games as a result. They have done it for 10 matches this season so far. Hhmm. Whats a manager to do..
Regards DM - 2 managers have turned up now to GP on their first day in the office with their respective new clubs: Paul Ince who manufactured a Blackburn victory, and Joe Kinnear who got the better of our gameplan (whatever it was) to rescue a draw. Neither manager spent the whole summer at their clubs, neither manager spent the near £20m in the summer that DM has, yet both were able to out do DM and Everton on our own patch. Makes you wonder why people think DM is irreplaceable.
Regards hoofball. Now then, you claim that DM doesn't want to play it, but that certain players repeatedly do so. What would you do as manager in that situation? Some players are deliberately ignoring your instructions, and we are losing goals and games as a result. They have done it for 10 matches this season so far. Hhmm. Whats a manager to do..
Regards DM - 2 managers have turned up now to GP on their first day in the office with their respective new clubs: Paul Ince who manufactured a Blackburn victory, and Joe Kinnear who got the better of our gameplan (whatever it was) to rescue a draw. Neither manager spent the whole summer at their clubs, neither manager spent the near £20m in the summer that DM has, yet both were able to out do DM and Everton on our own patch. Makes you wonder why people think DM is irreplaceable.
People banging on about Baines. He?s been shit in every game before yesterday. Yesterday, good first half, second half - shite. His crossing was terrible. I don?t think he?s very good to be honest and would prefer Lescott at LB.
As for the way we?re playing. Sometimes we play it on the deck and we keep the ball. Sometimes we play a long ball and 99 times out of 100 we lose the ball. I really want to show the manager and players a video of this and say "Long ball, lost possesion, next long ball, lost possession again (etc.), now get it through to your fucking thick heads - it doesn?t fucking work." Ridiculous.
Yesterday was the Yak?s fault for fucking up and losing possession. That goal changed the game. First half Newcastle looked the worst team I had ever seen. Second half, Everton were just pathetic. Fully pissed off.
As for the way we?re playing. Sometimes we play it on the deck and we keep the ball. Sometimes we play a long ball and 99 times out of 100 we lose the ball. I really want to show the manager and players a video of this and say "Long ball, lost possesion, next long ball, lost possession again (etc.), now get it through to your fucking thick heads - it doesn?t fucking work." Ridiculous.
Yesterday was the Yak?s fault for fucking up and losing possession. That goal changed the game. First half Newcastle looked the worst team I had ever seen. Second half, Everton were just pathetic. Fully pissed off.
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