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Sick and tired!
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I am sick and tired of people making up all sorts of stories about our summer of transfer woe. I am not talking about a lack of money or bad decision making, simply the facts, then I hope I don't have to read another 'made up story' about it.
1 ? Moutinho
A - His agent indicated he would come.
B - Moutinho publicly said he would come
C - Sporting accepted out bid (around £17mil).
D - We showed them the structure of our bid (as is usual in world football) and they asked for it all up front. Deal dead a week before the deadline.
2 ? M'Bia
A/B--see above
C - They asked for time to consider it so they could tempt him to stay for 1 final year.
D - He agreed to stay for a year.
Deal dead a week before the deadline.
3 ? Other signings ? during this time we thought we would get Moutinho/M'Bia as the deals were so close so we moved on cheap options as we were going to be out of cash.
4 ? Fellaini was signed after a 'rumoured' tentative enquiry last season. Liege would not budge on the asking price until Moyes upped the bid and closed the deal in Belgium.
Whether we were unlucky or left it too late, these are the simple facts of the summers goings on. Let's move on now and get behind the team we have and hope they all come good.
Mark Cassin, Posted 24/10/2008 at 14:10:52
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It does make me think what we would be like with Moutinho and M’bia in our side, though :-(
before negotiations started, could Everton have not asked the clubs involved, how they would like to be paid? And if they couldn?t agree, Everton could have moved on far earlier than they did. This club is being managed by idiots.
As far as I am aware (and I?m no expert) the transfer process is something like this.
1-- Agent and 3rd party club speak.
2-- 3rd party club puts in an offer
3-- If accepted in principle they then thrash out the details of payment structure.
Personally I think we were very unlucky as the players we wanted (Mbia and Moutinho) wanted to come here. Obinna but for a permit would be a flyer too.
I?m happy with Fellaini though as even before today i thought he looked great only his positioning defensively was dodgy.
How the hell did you end up working for AC Milan??!! Sounds quality! You taking on at the minute???
I was in Tokyo running the 1st 2 FX funds in Tokyo...so all I?ve ever done is finance. I then moved to Singapore but didn?t like my job so started looking around.
One evening I met a friend for drinks and his ?older? Italian mate was turning up later on--we all started chatting about life etc and then the Italian chap says?
"I know you 2 are British, but I may have something going on with AC Milan here in the Asean region. They are looking for people to do various things here. either of you like football?".
I chatted about their heritage all their players past/present who I liked and after making a 2 hour presentation the following week got the job of MD for Singapore. At the moment I?m focusing on setting up kids camps (4 a year 120kids a pop) in Singapore plus various other events.
They should be televised in 09 in Singapore and I?m looking for sponsors to cover the costs of these at the moment. So at the moment only small stuff though middle of next year I should be in Indonesia where things should really take off.
As this is an Everton website I should say that I?m hoping to put something together for Everton in June/July next year.... that?s something a little special and similar to the Chinese/Thai stuff at the moment--though all a process.
Otherwise I received the info as MK mentioned earlier from a sponsor of Moutinho. Not really through my direct knowledge though obviously a good source.
If anyone is interested in doing something in the ASEAN region with Everton especially then feel free to ask MK / LL etc for my email. Cheers.
The business dealings of Everton are a shambles and as indicated by Black Bill he didn?t have a pot to piss in until the Sky money cleared, QED your transfer window became very very very narrow.
Michael or Lyndon could you send me Mark?s e-mail address please?
Done. ? MK
Also M?Bia and Obinna were at the olympics.
Sally ? Obviously you didn?t read what and when I posted the info ? sadly you now appear very foolish.
Firstly, you said we were signing Moutinho, then you said we weren?t and we had fuck all money... then you said again that we were signing Moutinho again, and you didn?t have a clue where we?d got the money from.
This sounds anything but simple. Also M'Bia had publicly declared that he wanted to sign for us so I very much doubt he agreed to stay for another year. It was much more likely Rennes didn?t want to take staged payments.
You are probably best suited to sticking to stories about AC Milan because, after the shite you spun all summer, it?s very hard to believe anything you say.
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Without going back over it in detail though, I'm sure the transfer market featured anything but the consistency and simplicity of the "simple facts" you state in your post. Face it, the whole business is a very messy one with all sorts of so-called truths flying around. I'm highly cynical of it all to be honest, and that's what makes me "sick and tired"!