ToffeeWeb - Season 2008-09

Stephen Graham
1 Posted 08/11/2008 at 04:15:53

Not a problem! Our creative manager/leader will do something like this in midfield:

Pienaar, Osman, Vaughan, Cahill, Anichebe

Or,

Pienaar, Neville, Osman, Cahill with Saha up front.

In either case I will head for the nearest pumps, which don?t open here until 1600 GMT unfortunately.

God forbid that we field a balanced, creative midfield, which we are capable of doing!

Ajay Gopal
2 Posted 08/11/2008 at 04:36:55

Jay Harris, the OS mentions Peanuts and the Yak as being doubtful. No mention about Cahill/Arteta.

I think the boss will go with:

Saha
Cahill
Pienaar, Ossie, Castillo, Arteta
Lescott, Jags, Yobo, Neville
Howard

Although, personally, I would like to see Baines instead of Lescott, on present form. Although, if Pienaar is injured, we may well see Baines playing in left mid-field - not a bad thing in my opinion.

Looks good tonight folks. COYB !!

Mark Pendleton
3 Posted 08/11/2008 at 07:10:56

Hope that’s not true as the Yak and Pienaar also doubtful through injury.

Fred Ove Olsen
4 Posted 08/11/2008 at 07:11:20

Hoping for this:

Howard
Neville, Yobo, Jags, Lescott
Rodwell
Arteta, Osman, Pienaar (Baines)
Timmy
Vaughany (Work rate)

Subs: Nash, Hibbo, Baines, Baxter, Vic, Yak, Saha

Stephen Stuart
5 Posted 08/11/2008 at 08:48:11

Good grief, has ToffeeWeb descended into the realms of Football Manager completely now then....FFS?

Moyes selects the team, the fans just have to suffer 90 minutes of excruciatingly bad football, usual mystery injuries and dour media interviews........ FFS

Mike Hayes
6 Posted 08/11/2008 at 09:53:27

We need to be changing players around to stop the rot setting in. Those playing now are almost guaranteed a first team place barring injury. Use other players not getting a look in like Rodwell, Castillo and Van der Meyde. Get Osman on the operating table if he needs his knee sorting and make them challenge for places before they become complacent. We need to see competitive competition for places to knock us up a gear or two.

Stuart Mitchell
7 Posted 08/11/2008 at 09:57:16

Get a grip Stephen Stuart, there is nothing wrong with a bit of team discussion, if you do not like it then please keep it to yourself and sod off.

Michael Hunt
8 Posted 08/11/2008 at 10:18:31

The unhappy Hammers are in freefall with a novice foreign manager, financial trouble with heavily indebted Icelandic owners and have gained only 1 point from the last 15! They also have injuries and suspensions to some of their better first teamers. Our away form is pretty good and our lads’ confidence is high at last, especially compared to the happless hammers.
Taking all that into account, assuming Yak and Peanuts are out I think the team (in an ATTACKING 4-5-1) should be:

Howard;
Neville, Yobo, Jagielka, Baines; Anichebe, Osman, Rodwell, Cahill, Arteta;
Vaughan.

Subs: Castillo, Lescott, Anichebe, Gosling, Baxter, Valente, Nash.

This way, the team can be 442 or even 433 when we have the ball, but is flexible to be defensive and tight with 5 in midfield/defence when we need.
With the right support, the energy and movement of Vaughan, Anichebe and Cahill can wear down the stretched hammers. Later on we can bring Saha on for Vaughan or Anichebe (or Cahill) to give his extra class the chance to shine against worn down opponents.
Sounds great in theory to me, but will it be used and be effective in reality? My crystal ball is up the creek so I’ll wait and see...COYB!

Michael Hunt
9 Posted 08/11/2008 at 10:44:05

Doh! Saha is omitted from bench above, obviously Saha should be on bench (not Vic) as Anichebe is on right wing.

Joe McMahon
10 Posted 08/11/2008 at 12:03:09

This is why it makes me laugh when everyone say?s we will be ok when our first choice 11 is available. Exactly when was the last time they were? Cahill alone will spend weeks injured or suspended.

Watch This Space!

Richard Porter
11 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:17:52

The team:

Howard,
Neville, Yobo, Jagielka, Lescott,
Arteta, Cahill, Rodwell, Osman,
Saha, Anichebe.
Subs: Nash, Hibbert, Baines, Castillo, Vaughan, Jutkiewicz, Gosling.

Jimmy Crack
12 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:20:38

Rodwell ahead of Castillo???

Why???

Jay Wilson
13 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:30:21

Castillo just back from a month out injured, that might be why.

Paul McMullan
14 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:43:46

Does anyone know any streaming sites for the match

Steve Sturm
15 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:52:00

http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=23074&part=sports

Pete Dancer
16 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:50:00

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat8.11/WestHam_Everton3.html

Richard Porter
17 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:54:43

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=48e7786aaa3bd

Martin Beesley
18 Posted 08/11/2008 at 14:59:17

http://www.justin.tv/wrestlingforce_info

Mark Wynne
19 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:06:35

Despite starting with two forwards, it looks like we?re playing 4-5-1 with Vic dropping into midfield with Cahill playing off Saha. If so, that?s one hell of an indictment about our midfield depth. Just thank our lucky stars that Davey didn?t opt to start Hibbert with Captain Fantastic moving forward.

Joeynkoo Ludden
20 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:06:14

Pete is your feed delayed by 5 mins?

Paul McMullan
21 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:11:23

Can someone give me directions on live streaming? I'm having trouble locating the game on any of the sites posted.

Nick Entwistle
22 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:13:36

http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/344980

Aide Dews
23 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:16:57

Well first 15 mins or so gone and not a lot to say really apart from were giving ’em all the space in the world to play there football!

Dean Williamson
24 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:20:04

Anyone doing a commentary?
I?m in work.

Pete Dancer
25 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:21:39

Think it might be delayed. Not the best stream in the world, lol. Gona ditch it for another at half time.

Andy Spence
26 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:25:40

Google justintv ? type in west ham >search
live feed...

Aide Dews
27 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:21:10

I think Lescott as got Neville’s old boots on because all he seem to be doing is punting it up field whenever he gets the ball!

Sean Condon
28 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:27:54

The worst 25 min of football in the league this season?

This is Championship stuff.

Chris Jones
29 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:28:58

Behave Sean ? give the game a chance ? it?s been half decent.

Can?t believe how negative some people are...

David Parks
30 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:30:59

We look awful. No enthusiasm, no imagination. Lucky to get a point...

Pete Dancer
31 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:33:16

We’re living off Tim Howard at the mo. Going to be lucky to keep a clean sheet at this rate.

Andrew Bankes
32 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:33:35

This is piss poor... yet again we look devoid of all creativity or passion.

Sean Condon
33 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:34:29

That WAS a fine stop by my whipping boy Howard, however.

Ryan Holroyd
34 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:31:54

Great save from Howard then. Jeez we?re a terrible football team. Is Osman playing??!! Hardly touched the ball.

Joe McMahon
35 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:35:18

we are fucking crap......... six years we have waited for this!!!

Ryan Holroyd
36 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:35:28

Sean Condon ? Why is Howard your ?whipping boy??

Jeremy Benson
37 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:36:20

This is so, so poor. Have we even had a shot on goal?

I can?t be bothered watching anymore, I?ll go and do some DIY instead.

We are the new Bolton!

Sean Thompson
38 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:35:48

This is horrible, we look terrible. Why can?t we pass to each other?
The one with no neck is ripping us to shreds :(

Andrew Oxton
39 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:36:52

This is nowhere near Championship standard!!!! This is a bit painful.

Pete Dancer
40 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:37:57

Christ!! Neville looks like a man possessed the way he’s shouting at the others!!

Peter Killey
41 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:37:09

Not sure our formation is right, Young Rodwell is looking young today. We?ve not got enough bite in midfield.

Chris Jones
42 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:38:33

give them a chance - you’re like a bunch of kopites...

Jeremy Benson
43 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:38:00

Chris Jones,
If you think this is half-decent then

a) you havent seen much football in your life and
b) you?re part of the problem, not the solution.

If too many people are accepting of this tripe, then it won't change.

Sean Condon
44 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:38:03

Because I?ve posted, like, fifty times on here saying what a poor keeper I think he is. In truth, he?s probably about middle of the pack as far as Premier League goalies go; I?ve just never seen him win a match for us, stop a one-on-one or catch a bloody cross. Haha... just havin? fun.

Gotta laugh about somethin?, this is dreadful.

Nelly Blythe
45 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:37:22

How many times are we gonna mis-control or give the ball away... it's fuckin embarrassing.

Cahill anonymous... Arteta anonymous AGAIN...

We dont look like we?ve got a SHOT never mind a goal in us

It?s shite.... 5 more fuckin years of this? God help us.

Pete Dancer
46 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:40:57

Chris, they are walking all over us... its not hard to see that.

Sean Thompson
47 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:41:52

Chris Jones can?t be watching the same game? No-one can say we playing anything like decent. Bag of shite, that?s what we are.

Sean Condon
48 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:41:45

Jeremy Benson: the new Bolton? Hagh!
Assuming yer talkin? about Big Sam?s thugs of a few years back, we?d actually have to have someone in midfield who?d reached puberty.

Jon Cox
49 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:19:49

Rumour has it we will have an attempt on goal sometime before the next general election. Piss poor.

Chris Jones
50 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:42:00

Check my comments Jeremy.

Never said we were playing well. Just said don?t dive in with negative comments until the game pans out.

Don?t lecture me about how many games I?ve seen. I played professionally and have watched Everton week-in, week-out since ?84.

I don?t accept second best but I don?t jump on players half way through a game when confidence is already mixed at best...

Sean Thompson
51 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:43:51

Sorry i meant Chris Jones, I'm trying to type while watching this... this pile of shit. We are wank.

Andrew Bankes
52 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:41:14

After watching the Arse v Manure game earlier, this is just painful viewing. We seem effortlessly capable of making the most average teams look good.... at last a shot on goal!!!

Sean Condon
53 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:45:51

Chris, you?ve watched them since ?84? Fella on here yesterday has been watching since ?79.

1879.

Nelly Blythe
54 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:42:00

Anichebe playing as a wide player is a fuckin joke... a bad decision. Rodwell is a centre half NOT a midfield player... the whole midfield is a bad mistake... No pace no movement and worst of all no DESIRE.... but don't blame Davie Boy ? he only picks the team, FFS.

Jeremy Benson
55 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:46:37

Well Chris, seems your opinion is in the minority.

Peter Killey
56 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:45:42

Roll on the second half; we can only get better. I think we are missing the big man (Fellaini)...

Sean Condon
57 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:47:28

The local sportsradio channel here in Vancouver is carrying the match... I don?t know where from.... I think it?s Tony Gale and Winterburn. They?re really taking the piss. It?s kinda funny.

Ralph Wetzels
58 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:48:52

Peter Killey, you took the words out of my mouth.

Billy Colman
59 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:48:48

I HOPE THATS OUR BAD 45 OUT THE WAY !

Lee Watters
60 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:40:24

Why are we so bad... no creativity....
Just pure shit..

Nelly Blythe
61 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:47:49

Hooooffff !!!

Absolute SHITE !!

Andrew Bankes
62 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:47:18

Did anybody else just notice Jags seem to think about passing back to Howard despite one of their strikers being stood in front of him?!?! What is up with them?!?!

John Kleberson
63 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:48:53

Ugly 1st half. Not too sure what kind of tactics we actually played.

Hopefully 2nd half proves better.

Chris Jones
64 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:48:05

Just to clarify for the ignorant...

Sean had said: The worst 25 min of football in the league this season?

This is Championship stuff."

I responded: that the ?game was half-decent? I never mentioned our performance.

What pisses me off is that you all can?t wait to have a pop. It?s not been great from Everton but fuckin give them a chance. You?re the types that make Goodison such a miserable morgue to visit lately.

Paul Daly
65 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:50:53

A very disappointing Walter Smith half.....

Pete Dancer
66 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:51:09

Anyone elses stream just break? Does that usually happen at half time? (I'm a bit new to the whole streaming thing.)

Jon Cox
67 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:47:23

We need major surgery. Right guys let's have some positive thoughts on the way Moyesy turns this thing round in the second half.

Nelly Blythe
68 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:51:16

Chris Jones.... If you?ve played professional and you think this is acceptable, you must have played for a pretty poor side...

Aide Dews
69 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:50:44

I?d take a point now a tell ya! I can honestly say that's the worst I've seen us play this season and for a long time, fucking shocking!! There?s West Ham there full of movement and running and they don't give us an inch of space when we're on the ball yet we're giving ?em all the time in the fucking world to play their football, it's fucking shite!!!

Mike McLean
70 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:52:01

Actually, it’s Moyes and Kenwright who have turned it into a morgue.

Joey Brown
71 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:52:01

What do these guys get paid? I think I’d get fired if I worked with this little bit of enthusiasm.

Brian Hill
72 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:53:58

Shocking. Whatever the result of this game, that first half "performance" is unforgivable.

Jeremy Benson
73 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:55:55

Guys, guys,

We should all just shut up and let Chris Jones talk.

We’re ignorant kopites.

Peter Killey
74 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:55:31

Peter Dancer, that is working: http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat8.11/WestHam_Everton3.html

Jim Hourigan
75 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:51:38

Absolute garbage - do we have a midfield? Can someone tell me what is Cahill's position? Is he a forward? Then if so, why are we picking a midfield player to play up front and a forward to play wide?

Moyes is absolute pants, his tactics are so defensive and dour that it makes me embarrassed to be a blue. £17M to play this shite ? anonymous Osman, hoofball back 4, Anichebe is lazier than the Yak and no one has the ability to keep possession ? Cahill dictates the whole team formation, and he ain?t good enough to do that!!!

Nelly Blythe
76 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:54:19

Moyes will do fuck all as usual... he wll wait to make any change until we go a goal down. Sooner or later you people will have to see thro his limitations. No style of play other than HOOOFFF!! Players constantly played out of position and you wonder why we play without any cohesion.

The reason for this is Moyes?s tactics... THEY ARE SHITE !!

Sean Condon
77 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:59:09

I think (hope is more like it) that even Ditherin? Davey will have seen THAT and recognized the need for change...... and bring on Vaughan for the shiftless Anichebe.

Andrew Oxton
78 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:00:05

Pete, if you are struggling, download sopcast and go to channel 6003, it's pretty good (the stream, not the game).

Paul Daly
79 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:00:13

Nelly Blythe... it?s the thing about Moyes I don?t understand ? he waits far too long before making a substitution. Right now, he should be switching someone out of that midfield and bringing in Castillo ? can he be more anonymous than the players in there right now?????

Joe McMahon
80 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:00:09

And to think, even though we had just finished 5th in May, I said I?d prefer it if Moyes left and was slated for it, simply because of the hoof brand of football he is limited to. He never played at the highest level, and it shows. And please don?t say neither did Wenger. Anywone agree with me now?

Mike Oates
81 Posted 08/11/2008 at 15:57:43

It's painfully obvious that Cahill isn't cutting it at the moment and we are trying to play a system which uses him in a big way ? and it ain't working.

Anichebe is like a lost soul out wide, he hasn't the pace or strength to get past either full back. Arteta has just had enough by the looks of it, there is no-one in space, the passing is slow and often to players with West Ham lads 2 yds away.

Overall the worst 45 mins I?ve seen this season ? thank god for Howard, Neville and Jags ? the rest might as well as go back to bed.

Aide Dews
82 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:01:41

I didn't think I?d be saying this but I think were missing Fellaini today big time!! And we all say Yak is lazy but he?d've put more of a shift in than Cahill, Saha and Anichebe!!

Fred Ove
83 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:00:11

Get Vic and Saha off,and put Vaughany and Baines on!

Nelly Blythe
84 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:03:37

Joe.... journeyman player.... journeyman style of play....

At least his teams of the past would compete and put opposition players under pressure... they dont even fuckin bother to do that now... they should all be fuckin ashamed of themselves.

Arteta is a fuckin imposter... hasn?t played well for 18 months but this season has no injury to blame it on... his dead ball delivery is abysmal... fuck him off the corners and free kicks...

Terry Smith
85 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:01:51

Looks like Moyes is happy with that shite from the first half. No change. Same old Hooooof shite

Chris Jones
86 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:05:55

Neil B - Man City aren?t a shite side

Jeremy - think you hit the nail on the head there fellah.

Nelly Blythe
87 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:11:46

Chris....If you’re the big lanky galloot who played up front...enough said eh !!

Nelly Blythe
88 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:13:42

and it’s NELLY not Neil !!

Chris Jones
89 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:13:50

Sorry Neil - short arsed fast kid who played left wing

Nelly Blythe
90 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:15:30

Really.....Man City have been shite since the late 60’s so stop kiddin yerself...

Andrew Bankes
91 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:15:13

Have you ever seen such slow ’passing’ in all your days? I thought my stream was lagging!

Pete Dancer
92 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:16:39

Its looking better... we’re in their half! lol

Nelly Blythe
93 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:18:24

No PACE anywhere in the side....we are crap !!

Sean Condon
94 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:06:23

Uh-oh, Etherington just came on. He likes to run, which puts him in a different class than anyone we?ve got on the pitch.

Paul Daly
95 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:19:39

Etherington..... what a strange head ? foetal alchohol syndrome?????

Nelly Blythe
96 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:22:05

Fuck Me....we NEARLY had a shot then !!

John Kleberson
97 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:21:59

Can?t wait for the 70th mins. We will win the game after that. Cos thats the time Moyes bring in the substitutes.

Terry Smith
98 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:19:57

Arteta?s crosses in very good positions are piss poor.

Nick Veitch
99 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:25:04

1-0 down. SHITE!!!

Pete Dancer
100 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:23:28

Actually, jokes aside, we are looking a bit better. A few chances, threatening a bit. ..... touchwood.

Mike Oates
101 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:18:55

1-0 down and we are rubbish

Andrew Bankes
102 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:22:48

We’re losing, who’d have thought it!

Nelly Blythe
103 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:24:07

Arteta has been a bag of shite...AGAIN !!

Pete Dancer
104 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:25:55

Shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terry Smith
105 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:25:35

It's only what we deserve. Shite goal to concede. What garbage does Moyes have up his sleeve now?

John Kleberson
106 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:25:25

Fuck Moyes Fuck Moyes Fuck Moyes.

Painful......

Nelly Blythe
107 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:26:34

1-0 West Ham....GAME OVER !!

Chris Jones
108 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:26:46

I’m sure you’re pleased now Nelly...

Wish you’d pack your trunk and fuck off.

Much better second half - we won’t lose this. That was a pen and Parker was offside

Nelly Blythe
109 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:27:27

Sub on when we go a goal down... Fuckin' told yer...

Moyes is shite!!

Sean Condon
110 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:27:12

A-Ha! There?s the old reliable Moyesie master-stroke. It almost makes you laugh. It would had I not been so sedated by this bullshit that I am no longer capable of summoning emotion. I feel like a character in that George Lucas film THX1138.

Andrew Oxton
111 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:28:22

Come on you Blue boys.

Paul Daly
112 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:29:33

All on Vaughan now.....don?t feel very confident....

Terry Smith
113 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:31:10

Why on earth when we go on the attack by playing the ball on the floor we then put the last ball in for a header? Let's have a fooking pop at the keeper!

Pete Dancer
114 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:32:45

At least Vaughn’s got more than a few minutes playing.

Jon Cox
115 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:26:41

God this is dreadful. I hate to say it and he had a great season last season but Lescott is a donkey but that could be because he?s at Lb.

We need a miracle.

Joeynkoo Ludden
116 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:28:58

Chris Jones - what a mature individual you are. Also, I am sending you a stamp so you can write everything you know about football on the back of it.

This is total garbage football. Tell me how 19% possession in the first half is somet’ to defend? Stop attacking fellow blues you tosser.

PS - that’s called irony Chris.

Chris Keightley
117 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:31:56

Relegation candidates you bet we are this season has been absymal Moyes how did you get a further five years ?? total waste of our money !! MOYES OUT

Chris Jones
118 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:34:06

So unless you just come on here and slag the team then you may as well just fuck off then - nice one Joey

Sean Condon
119 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:31:43

You know what DM will say after this: "I thought we played well considering the players we were missing... we should?ve had a penalty, and their goal was offside."

Pete Dancer
120 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:35:02

Ahhh!!! So close!!!

Andrew Bankes
121 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:31:53

I can?t express in words just how truly woeful we?ve been this match. It?s just not good enough. Apart from a couple of Howard saves, not one player has done anything to suggest that they?re Premier League players. Disgraceful,

Nelly Blythe
122 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:34:38

Chris Jones... much better 2nd half.? What the fuck are you on... think it?s time YOU fucked off you sad sack !!

Professional.... my arse !!

Chris Jones
123 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:37:48

For once you’re right Nelly - tara

Paul Niklas
124 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:35:59

Rodwell... FFS please tell me what I am missing here.

I can see nothing at all that makes me believe he is ready to play at this level.

Terry Smith
125 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:37:37

How I wish the rest of the squad would show the passion & determination like Vaughan.

Matt Kassell
126 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:35:49

Vaughan has given the side some much needed pace and enthusiasm. He deserves a run. Some people on here need to concentrate on the footy.

Nelly Blythe
127 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:40:41

Paul Niklas... totally agree about Rodwell.... He looks painfully out of his depth to me.... and has done every time I?ve seen him.

Andrew Oxton
128 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:38:29

Who is this bellend of a commentator?

John Audsley
129 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:38:19

Just got in from work to watch this crap ? have we been this bad all game?

PS: Never ever call fellow Blues Reds

It's the ultimate sin.

Sean Condon
130 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:35:52

Oh my God!!!!

Pete Dancer
131 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:43:59

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt Kassell
132 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:43:31

Get in! Come on blues!

Chris Jones
133 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:41:49

Great move - great finish...

Brendan George
134 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:39:47

Lescott, you beauty!

Andrew Oxton
135 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:23

Fucking get in, first bit of quality, NOW COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sean Condon
136 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:15

Let?s make Saha a winger, and Lescott Bob Latchford.

Joeynkoo Ludden
137 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:44:58

Get out of jail free card..

Get in... now let's get at them, their heads should go..

Does anyone know who the knob commentating on Fox Sports 2 is? Total WHU bias..

Ralph Wetzels
138 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:42

Great cross, great header. I hope it will give Joleon some confidence.

Paul Daly
139 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:42:00

..........Great move, great finish, Totally undeserved.....

Nelly Blythe
140 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:02

Fuck Me...there is a god !!

Bet Moyes sits back and holds out for a draw

Matt Kassell
141 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:23

WHOOOOOOO! LOUIS!!!!!

Sean Condon
142 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:47:09

YEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahahhaha

Pete Dancer
143 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:22

WWWHHHHOOOOOOOOOHHHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck yeah!!!!

Ray Lupton
144 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:47:21

GGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL

You fucking dancer!!!!!

Terry Smith
145 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:40

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLL

Chris Keightley
146 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:40:53

GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL ? C'mon you Blues, let's nick it!!!!!!!!

Chris Jones
147 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:45:44

Sometimes when you’re not playing well you’ve just got to stick at it. It’s called being resilient and sticking together.

Come On You Blues

Nelly Blythe
148 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:47:07

FUCKIN YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!

Ralph Wetzels
149 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:47:02

What a turnaround. Great goal again. Well done Saha.

Jon Cox
150 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:46:15

WHAT WAS THAT I SAID ABOUT A MIRACLE!!!

Matt Kassell
151 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:48:24

Louis Saha is dead handsome.

Sean Condon
152 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:48:05

Un-fucking-believable.

Chris James
153 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:48:30

Blimey Nelly, looks like you?ve been spot on with everything today... don?t suppose you have any lottery numbers for us do you?

Gavin Ramejkis
154 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:42:18

Happy to take the points but fuck me ? where did those three goals come from?

Marc Williams
155 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:39:25

Only another five years of this total shite, roll on 2013!!!

Ralph Wetzels
156 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:49:29

3-1, thank you very much. Great, great play by Saha.

Pete Dancer
157 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:49:25

Fuck me!! Who?da thought it!!!

Peter Killey
158 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:40:01

NEVER SAY DIE... BLUE FOREVER!!!

Chris Jones
159 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:50:46

Saha - good signing Nelly?

Ye of little faith...

Frank Castle
160 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:52:02

This is amazing.

Nelly Blythe
161 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:49:19

Can't believe this shit.... get in there!!!

Marc Williams
162 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:51:08

WTF - How can we be this shit & still winning games???

Martin Beesley
163 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:53:17

La la, la la hey hey, hey Luis Saha!

Erik Dols
164 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:50:58

Well, I won?t complain if we keep doing this all season as we will be champions for winning all matches in the last ten minutes, but this is terrible for my heart. Another three points earned with free-flowing passing football ;-)

Saha scoring another two goals is great news by the way, it could mean we finally have more than one easy-scoring striker.

John Audsley
165 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:53:27

Thank Fuck

3 goals in 4 mins

Our lass has told me to shut up cos the little one is asleep

UP THE BLUES !!!!!!!!!

Jason Broome
166 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:50:37

Saha is a badass. AJ couldn’t shine his boots. Quality always delivers.

Never thought I would be so happy to see Hibbert.

Andrew Bankes
167 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:53:47

Sweet fuckin Jesus! I was not expecting that!

Sean Condon
168 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:50:26

What a wonderful performance! Absolute Total Football. Holland ?74 had nothing on this. The School of Science. Jesus, Kendall?s Marvels would?ve had a hard time beating this lot.
Hahahahahaha.... most unlikely result since, well, half-time vs ManUre. But I?ll take it.
Yeeee-haaaaa!!!!!!

Srdjan Sekulic
169 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:57:32

Life is good!

COYB

Nelly Blythe
170 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:53:16

Dont recall slagging off Saha in any of my comments....

Perhaps god is smiling on us.... absolute shite performance (less the last 7 minutes) but a very welcome and appreciated 3 pts.... Thank You Very Much !!

Chris... still think you talk bollox but it?s your opinion and you?re entitled to it mate.

Going Now.... BYEEE !!

Frank Castle
171 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:55:35

Hull are losing too!

No complaints here, was tempted to post how shit we were playing before the goals but the end justifies the means!

Pete Dancer
172 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:56:27

Hehehe!!! lol Ah Christ... doesn't supporting Everton take years off. lol.

Right... I'm off, happy arguing lads and lasses.

Marc Williams
173 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:58:08

Did we just enter a paralell universe for the last 10 minutes or what !!!

Chris Jones
174 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:54:56

We played poorly for the first half but never looked like caving in.

In the last 20 we were the only team going to win. Still loads to improve though - we still lack pace up top and a need to find the elusive holding midfielder but you can’t doubt the team’s spirit over the last month or so.

Shame some Evertonians can’t show the same spirit - irrespective of your opinions.

Robert Jones
175 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:00:53

Marshy give us a wave! Marshy, Marshy, Marshy give us a wave!

Jimmy Crack
176 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:01:10

Anyone else feel bad for the hammers?

Paul Niklas
177 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:58:05

Rodwell off and the turn around started.

He is not ready, he is not a midfielder, needs to get focussed on becoming a top class central defender.

Give up on midfield.

Well done Everton and well done DM for realising you made a mistake with Rodwell.

Castillo should have been there

Frank Castle
178 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:01:39

I think MOYES deserves some credit!!

Chris James
179 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:56:51

Hmm, suddenly those summer transfer dealings aren’t looking quite so uninspired after all - would like to see Castillo given a proper chance though.

Granted we have to improve a LOT, but winning ugly isn’t exactly a terrible habit and success breeds confidence.

With Lescott getting back on the goal sheet, Saha finding his touch and the Yak, Peanuts and Screech to come back in (plus Cahill to get back up to speed and Arteta to hopefully find some form) it’s suddenly not looking so bad after all. Shame we blew UEFA so early though.

Paul Daly
180 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:02:16

Feel bad for a team with that hunchback Ballemy and that little thug Bowyer......????

That would be a "No".........

John Kleberson
181 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:02:23

Hey Chris Jones... Stops that.. you are getting as ugly as our tactics.

Thank God we played only 5 mins and that's all it takes to win the game.

And Yeah... never thought I be so happy seeing Hibbert on....

Anto Meehan
182 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:02:29

Fucking amazing, even sweeter I had 20quid on the blues to win -1 goal at 11/2.

Sweet Jesus, I?d have taking the draw never mind my bet......

Sean Condon
183 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:02:36

Yeah, Castillo shoulda been playing.

C?mon you Baggies.

Teddy Draper
184 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:57:52

Get real the lot of you! NO SKILLS at all, Poor execution, Poor passing, Poor fucking EVERYTHING, apart from that it was FUCKING PERFECT, 1-3

Ste Lewis
185 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:03:46

Wrong site Frank if you’re looking for that!

Fred Ove Olsen
186 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:05:03

Vaughan gives Everton the energy they need! Think he was the reason to the turnaround! And now, let's hope West Brom beat the redshite.

Aide Dews
187 Posted 08/11/2008 at 16:58:19

Where the fuck did that result come from, get in!! It can only be a good sign that we're playing so shite but still getting results, brilliant!!! It's a grand old team to play for, its a grand old team to support, an if ya know your history, it's enough to make your heart go whoooooaaaaaaaa, we dont care what the redshite say, what the fuck do we care, cos we only know that there's going to be a show when the Everton boys are there!!!! COYB!!!!

Keith Glazzard
188 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:07:51

A man on the radio just said we have been getting "a glut of goals in the last few minutes". Not quite - but beyond belief today. Louis the comeback kid? Hope so. Anyway, 10 out of 12 points in four games helps a lot - thank you.

Martin Berry
189 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:24:08

Watched it on ESPN. Had two bottles of Stella in 80 minutes, drank 6 in the last 10 minutes and now having a whisky!! Fucking fantastic!!!!

Rob Lyons
190 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:32:38

if you read through all these comments from start to finish there are some fickle fans on here, we're shit piss poor blah blah then when we win 3-1 its great brilliant. Can we reserve judgement until the game is finished as that is when the result matters ? not after 63 mins!!

Jason Broome
191 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:42:57

Rob, not the same fans at the start who are commenting at the end.

However ,the first half was poor until Moyes changed the tactics and became more adventurous. He deserves a lot of credit!

Ian Tunny
192 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:46:04

Reading this site shows how fickle some fans are, so quick to jump the gun. Have you learnt nothing from the past few games and the last minute goals? Have you learn't nothing that Moyes nearly always gets it right in the long run?

Ian Geraghty
193 Posted 08/11/2008 at 17:39:55

A shocking performance for eighty minutes. The lack of movement to allow whoever has possesion of the ball to make an easy pass is a disgrace. Its the same every week. we can not do the simple pass and move required to keep the ball for any length of time so it ends up being hoofed and coming back at us putting way to much pressure on the defense.

Against the teams with better forwards we look like mugs but against the more average teams we do have the quality to score ourselves so get our fair share of points . It aint pretty but unless we get a sugar daddy to pay for half a dozen geuinely world class players then its what we are going to have to watch whlist Moyes is in charge with the current crop. 3 great goals to win it. Would I part with £35 and a day of my weekend to watch that no chance. Id rather do what more and more people seem to be doing and thats watch games on the internet streams if the fall in attendences is any indicator. If we played better football then id have no probs going to games and parting with my hard earned cash. Good to see us a get a little run of points going but we are shocking for the majority of most games we play in.

Jeremy Benson
194 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:00:17

Reading this site shows just how fickle some fans are.

Some people are only interested in the statistical result of a game, and not the performance.

Perhaps some fans should follow baseball instead?

Ian Tunny
195 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:28:36

Jeremy, I'd rather play shite and win than play well and lose.

Don't make daft comments.

Hardly any team plays great football all of the time and wins, get real will ye.

Jeremy Benson
196 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:36:42

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Bob Turner
197 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:38:10

Quite right Ian, and it is amusing to read through all the comments from the doom and gloom merchants as the match progresses (which funnily enough lasts 90 minutes...)

Thank God they weren?t at the match dispensing their unique brand of "support".... maybe that?s why we?ve scored twice as many goals away than at home.

Ian Tunny
198 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:41:07

Jeremy, you have spoken enough crap for one day as Chris Jones discovered on here, you were all giving him abuse like he knew fuckall and he wrote you all off by the final whistle.

We won and it's result that matter. If you don't like it, watch West Brom, I hear they play lovely football.

Jeremy Benson
199 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:52:17

Oh Ian, it's not crap, you can find out what it means on Wikipedia.

I am not a glory-hunting supporter, I love football - not points tallies. I?m sorry you see the beautiful game the other way.

Why don't you go and support Bolton?

Chris Jones
200 Posted 08/11/2008 at 19:09:06

"Jeremy, you have spoken enough crap for one day as Chris Jones discovered on here, you were all giving him abuse like he knew fuckall and he wrote you all off by the final whistle.

We won and it?s results that matter. If you don?t like it, watch West Brom, I hear they play lovely football."

Thanks Ian.

For the record, I never said we were playing well and for the record I?m not a Moyes apologist. I?m just fed up with fans who jump down the throat of the team / manager / other fans from 20 mins in.

I apologise if I got bitchy or if people thought I?d labelled anyone on here a ?kopite? - I actually said stop acting LIKE kopites.

We are stuck with Moyes ? whether we like it or not ? let?s not turn into that horrible sanctimonious lot across the park. Let?s stick together as best we can.

God bless you all... even Nelly and Jeremy!

Jeremy Benson
201 Posted 08/11/2008 at 19:28:28

Fair play to you Chris,

You only "jumped down the throat of other fans" after 28 minutes and 58 seconds of the game.

However, everyone else was commenting on the game - you directed your comments against people who were posting on the site. We all were commenting on the performance. And then followed it up by suggesting we were all like kopites.

Oh, Ian Tunny - you?ve already called someone else a shithouse on another thread.

Could you start an argument when on your own in a room?

Ian Tunny
202 Posted 08/11/2008 at 19:38:52

Jeremy, I am not a glory-hunter either ? if I was, I'd support Man U or the Shite. I'm just realistic to know a 3-1 win away from home is a good result; yes, we didn't play well for much of the game, but neither do Man U or Chelsea, that's life.

I chose to look at the positives, that we are winning and we don't even have to play well, it's only a matter of time before we do an then I'm sure you'll be happy,

If others on here are going to call Moyes a shithouse who can't defend himself on here then I will feel the need to defend them.

Jonathan Tasker
203 Posted 08/11/2008 at 20:03:25

This match would seem to show that we are very good at being flat track bullies and beating the teams that are not in the top4. We shouldn?t dismiss this ability as this should/could allow us again to finish close to the Big 4. Delighted for Saha and shows that we do have some strength in the forwards.

Harvey Miller
204 Posted 08/11/2008 at 18:37:54

West Ham game: we played badly for 80 mins. Happily we have the ex-Man U trio who really won the game for us. Saha is a world class player.

But seriously folks, some of the comments here in the mailbag are way over the line. My RS friends are more polite than you guys here to fellow Evertonians.< By the way I like Tony Marsh's comments because they are filled with passion and true feeling for the club. When the team is not playing well why on earth you can?t say that aloud?

I like to think I didn?t chose instead of being chosen when I saw THE match in 1966. My kids are born with it. My Everton team would play like the standard says: nothing but the best is good enough. I can?t see that happening right now. Still, we have to support the club and maintain the dignity and humanity that?s in all of us. So tell it when it hurts but don?t insult your fellow Evertonian because we got to stick together. COYB

Paul Murphy
205 Posted 09/11/2008 at 05:26:16

Oh Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Davey Moyes! 3 wins on the bounce, haven't played well at all. Long may it continue! Also Louis Saha! Absolute bargain! Beat Boro and we're going places.