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Leaders and Followers

By Karl Parsons :  02/09/2009 :  Comments (21) :
Here’s a bit of positive spin to the recent David Moyes transfer situation.

In my mind there are two kinds of people: Leaders and followers. And in football management the same can be said. Those of you who are pro DM (and I am one of them) will hold our incumbent in high regard and I position him firmly in the leaders category.

From his very first sentence as Manager of our Club he led by example. His arrival sparked our dusty marketing department into action and our People’s club tag gained ascendency. [How the line was not immediately protected is a shocking story for another writer]. But my opening point nevertheless positions David Moyes as a great leader.

Two minutes as Coach led to his first goal in Blue colours and having now gained two Manager of the Season awards in 6 seasons proves that his leadership skills on the field are also admired nationwide as well.

Leadership that led Evertonian’s to again be able to think positively about our prospects. Leadership that ultimately led us to Wembley against all odds!

Yet there’s another aspect to his leadership that has many of his counterparts clambering to follow, and it must drive him mental. I refer to player targeting. I can think of countless players who he has identified and failed to capture simply because some nasty agent twat kindly leaks information out that DM likes the cut of this players jib. The latest being Kyle Naughton, the Sheffield United right back, who by all accounts is set for stardom.

I can hear Levey, the Spurs Chairman now saying, “If Moyes likes him that’s good enough for me” as he reaches for his cheque book! I can also hear teams that are looking to offload players think twice when Moyes comes looking, “Mmm, David Moyes likes him. Have we missed something here?”

Yeah OK, as you may have guessed there’s a little tongue in cheek to that last comment but something tells me I actually may have a point.

You see leadership is nothing if you go into battle without sufficient ammunition. I know Moyes understand this and plots his targets with as much due diligence as Field Marshall Montgomery would. But in the cut throat world of player management it plays right into the hands of the richer clubs who have less strategic whereabouts but more wonger and are waiting to position themselves as an alternative purchaser as soon as the cat is out of the bag, knowing our buying power is limited.

If our Board could match our Manager's leadership with cash I have no doubt we would have seen the arrival of a lot more of DM’s number one targets. If Billy Bluenose led by example as opposed to filling the airways with rhetoric I am sure we would now be suitably placed to challenge the top four with gusto and not just wishful thinking.

In David Moyes we have a born leader. Pity those fans who follow our Club from the comfy seats in the 300 club could not do a little more leading themselves.

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Tony Whitby
1   Posted 03/09/2009 at 06:55:46

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It has seemed on a number of occasions that other clubs have suddenly expressed an interest as soon as we have become involved.
The other clubs involved would say that once cover was broken on one of their targets they had to come out.
Having said that I am sure some managers have been kind of pleased to see that their original judgement is also agreed with by a highly respected judge of a player as Moysie.
Kirk McArdle
2   Posted 03/09/2009 at 06:53:41

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1. Moyes targets a player that he believes will improve an area to strengthen.
2. Kenwright meets with Moyes and agrees that a bid of 2 mars bars and a packet of s’n’v crisps is a good deal.
3. Players agent is informed that our bid has been accepted and touts said player to other teams to drive up the price and his cut of the fee.
4. Spurs outbid us with an offer of actual money.
5. We cannot find an orange to throw into the deal so player goes to a team with no real chance of playing first team football for at least 2 years.

Until a change at borad level with a backer who has long arms to go with the long pockets ( Bills are a bit on the short side ) we will have to go though this transfer procedure for a while yet.
Jason Lam
3   Posted 03/09/2009 at 08:12:27

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I think I’m not paranoid to think the same, that once Moyes is interested in a player, in comes Steve Bruce, Mark Hughes and Happy Harry with a better offer. It says as much when the player decides to sit on the bench then improve himself and chances with England (if he’s AJ, Lescott, Jags).

Which is why the rumours of SAF trying to hire Moyes is not without merit. Moyes would be a perfect coach for them, where SAF has the man-management skills. I doubt Moyes would know what to do with Ronaldo if he was on our books. Like how Rooney was handled.

This thread should be merged with the Phantom bids. About time Moyes send out some smoke screens. Bastards.
Jason Lam
4   Posted 03/09/2009 at 08:20:08

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Forever the conspiracy-ist (it’s not a proper word I know), can you blame Moyes for squeezing every transfer bid in as late as possible? The targetted player wouldn’t have time to meet the other clubs (who may have blown their budget already)! Here’s us aiming for 4 players on 31 August, and Happy Harry thinking fucking hell which agent to call I’ve got only 2 hours to hijack the bid. Nerves of steel with that Naughton phantom bid whew. So it was Johnny H under the sleeve all along. Fucking Genius Moyes.
Patty Beesley
5   Posted 03/09/2009 at 08:44:37

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Am I wrong... but hasn’t Davey had 3 Football Manager of the Year awards?
Colin Potter
6   Posted 03/09/2009 at 08:59:01

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have you ever thought that instead of those twat agents, that it could be his eternal dithering that cocks some of these deals up.
if ever Man utd offer the managers job to Moyes, I will show my arse in Lewis’s window. After SAF they will only take winners, something I suspect Moyes will never be.
Iain McWilliam
7   Posted 03/09/2009 at 09:33:41

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Hmm I wouldnt say he is a leader in his team selection or tactial outlook. He certainly doesnt like taking the initiative when it comes to attacking from the off and hes usually very reluctant to make substitutions. He constantly harps on about Utd, always sniffs around their castoffs and is an unashamed Fergie disciple. Nothing particularly original there really

I’d say hes a top class coach who has problems dealing with star players (which rules him out of the top 4) and tends to stick to the percentage game IMHO.
Ciarán McGlone
8   Posted 03/09/2009 at 10:23:23

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’I can think of countless players who he has identified and failed to capture simply because some nasty agent twat kindly leaks information out that DM likes the cut of this players jib’

AH come on!

Other teams have scouts too. Ridiculous suggestion.
Mike Allison
9   Posted 03/09/2009 at 11:55:59

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If this stuff is true then the tactic is obvious. Moyes identifies players who he thinks are overrated or potential trouble makers, makes ’phantom bids’ for them and watch and see what Tottenham do, while tying up the real signings quietly behind closed doors. Transfer poker. Could be a laugh when Franny Jeffers goes to Tottenham for £10M.
Phil Martin
10   Posted 03/09/2009 at 12:11:13

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Ian McWilliam,

I’d say hes a top class coach who has problems dealing with star players (which rules him out of the top 4) and tends to stick to the percentage game IMHO.

I entirely disagree. If SAF was the boss at Everton when we were bottom 6 and no hopers. Rooney wouldve left. Money talks and we STILL dont have any. Would Jose Mourinho taken our average team of 2004 and taken us to Champs League — could he have achieved more than Moyes on shoe string budget? No, and he wouldnt even consider taking a job at a club with no money anyway.

The fact is our board will do anything to get out of spending their own cash -hence why we only bought someone AFTER Lescott was sold. AND why we didn't spend a penny more than £22M. Coincidence?
Iain McWilliam
11   Posted 03/09/2009 at 12:24:11

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Of course Rooney would have left regardless of who the boss was but I think the lack of man management (or understanding) from Moyes speeded up his departure. Big Dunc couldnt stand him and yet Joe Royle managed to get alot out of him (when fit). From my point of view Moyes seems to have a very blinkered view on how some footballers minds work (lescott being the latest example). Not everyone is an honourable, loyal (well as long as he gets his big contract) and god fearing as him.

As for Mourinho, well I disagree really because he made an average European team in FC Porto into Champions League winners. Different level but similar achievment.

Fortunately for him hes never had to manage a club in as big a mess as Everton but thats a whole different thread...

Jay Harris
12   Posted 03/09/2009 at 12:37:36

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Karl, I agree with the sentiments of your post and do believe that Moyes is a natural leader but I would not overhype his abilities and Patty is right it’s actually 3 LMA awards which nobody can deny means he is held in very high regard within the game.

I only wish we had some leadership in other areas of the club.

Elstone is just BB’s mouthpiece and the marketing department is a joke.

Wyness was a leader but only if it lead to lining his pockets.

Unfortunately we have leaders from the manager down but certainly not up.
Phil Martin
13   Posted 03/09/2009 at 12:44:02

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I dont feel you can compare the Porto CL winning team of Mourinho to Moyes’s cast off XI that finished 4th.

Porto had players like Deco, Carvalho, Maniche, Constinha, Ferreirra, Baia, Alberto. Sure they did overachieve but Mourinho had some class players who eventually signed for world class teams.
Tony Miller
14   Posted 03/09/2009 at 12:56:10

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Another average European team won the Champions League with players such as Baros,Traore, Dudek and Smicer.

So that would be another cup fluke unless you are saying the fat controller is better than Moyes both as a man manager and leader and could have taken us further with the limits he has imposed due to finance??
Brian Murphy
15   Posted 03/09/2009 at 13:02:01

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Guys like everybody I know we aint no money bags but it just constantly seems that we don’t have a pot to piss in? How the hell are the Hulls, Stokes of this world getting investment? DO they have links to a money Fairy that BK hasn’t been made aware of?

My big worry is that as we haven’t actually got any more depth in our squad since last year? The quality is a bit better but what happens if we get 1 or 2 injury’s in key areas this season. Couple that with The Yak, Peanuts & Yobo in Africa for a month in January & we will be tread bare. Holding onto a Jacobsen & Castillo or even some loans would have helped out here.
Tony Miller
16   Posted 03/09/2009 at 13:14:07

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Brian not many clubs have actually spent much more than they recieved. Stoke have but they along with Hull did not push the boat out to much last year so they are in effect spending two seasons premier league money after the bonus of staying up a good link to all signings this year is below.

To be honest it has been a bit like musical chairs and other than City I cannot see many clubs around us that have increased their strength much more.
Dan McKie
17   Posted 03/09/2009 at 16:04:15

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I'm not quite sure what people expect from the Everton marketing team? They could advertise here, there and everywhere around the world, but what would it achieve?

Most foreign supporters are glory hunters, they don't care about history or how good the atmosphere is at the Old Lady. They want a team that wins trophies so they can sit there in their (probably) fake shirts and claim to be a fan! Why aint these people supporting a more local team where they can actually go to the game!

As for all the Everton fans complaining about marketing, I hope you are sat there surrounded by your new home and away kits and everything from posters to potato peelers with Everton’s name on it bought from either of our two new shops!

Brian Waring
18   Posted 03/09/2009 at 17:14:46

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Get a grip FFS! Have you never stopped to think that when a target Moyes is after ends up at another club, it is because that club have also been watching said player, and nothing to do with Moyes being after him?
James Boden
19   Posted 03/09/2009 at 20:39:38

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Although Moyes has done an admirable job he is not going to be the next manager of Man United. And are you really dilluding yourself into believe that the good players our rival clubs sign are solely because of Moyes interest? Talk about going over the top in terms of crediting him.
Alan Kirwin
20   Posted 04/09/2009 at 10:27:17

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Karl, I’m sure you’d like to know that "wonger" is actually spelt "wonga".

As for the rest, there are many elements involved in transfers. Agents simply make things more complicated, or confusing, or public.

It clearly suits Everton in our current financial straight jacket to keep quiet about targets and try to pounce swiftly and with minimum of fuss. I actually think that’s a good way of doing things. Unfortunately it’s also nigh on impossible these days.

Sheff Utd behaved appallingly over Naughton. The hypocrisy, given their own bleating over the Tevez affair etc, was breathtaking. I think we may have lost a nugget there, but don’t blame Everton for its stance.

It was left to Leeds Utd of all clubs, that bastion of trust, honour & nobility, to publicly announce that it had committed selling Fabian Delph to Villa despite subsequent higher bids, on a matter of principle.

There is really no principle left in football any more. Money is the first, the last, the everything. And that’s why we have leeches, sorry, agents. It’s a pitiful endictment on a beautiful game. We’ve always had big clubs and little clubs, but the ability of clubs like Ipswich, Burnley, Wolves, QPR and, today, Everton, to compete at the top and occasionally win is a massive loss to the democracy and appeal of the world’s game.

Uefa’s ruling on Chelsea is one way. Christ knows what they’d make of Man City’s public honey dangling to Lescott & his agent. Platini, rather than the misguided fool some myopic observers suggest, is actually bang on both with his motivation and his plans.

As for David Moyes’s successful transfer dealings, still far too many ducks to be lined up for that to ever go smoothly. Don’t write us off this season. It will be interesting.
Matthew Mackey
21   Posted 09/09/2009 at 13:21:42

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I agree 10000000% with what you’ve said here particularly about the Kyle Naughton case. The boy wanted to come, I believe he may have even had a medical. He would have been in the first team from day one (Hibbert lovers, you know I’m right) but then we got shafted by Sheff Utd and the second-hand car salesman from North London.

Moyes spots talent and then those with the bigger wads to spend just snap it up. (I hate Spurs, they represent everything that is currently shite about the beautiful game.) It’s sad, not just for us, but for the boy himself who was unfortunately the piggy in the middle of the bullshit politics.

I’ve been paying special attention to Tottenham’s line ups this season so far and correct me if I am wrong but Kyle Naughton hasn’t played one single Premier League game for Spurs, not even as sub. Another young English player with great potential that will now just fade away off the radar and be sold on to some lower PL side or Championship side in a couple of years' time. Sad, very sad and very very disappointing all round.

I now believe it’s time for Kenwright to dig deeper into his pockets to support our manager's ambitions in the transfer market or just fuck off and let someone with bigger pockets come in. The longer he retains his current attitude to spending, the more likely DM will move on quicker than expected.


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