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Ever Banega
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The Times is claiming that Moyes is on the verge of closing a 12 month loan agreement with Valencia for 21-year-old Argentinian defensive midfielder Ever Banega.
This guy cost Valencia €13 Million a couple of years ago, has had some off the field problems in Spain and not excelled as well as his early years at Boca suggested he would. Sounds like he needs a fresh start and some good coaching; the archetypal Moyes signing.
He can certainly play, has tremendous skill, knows how to pick out a pass and can turn on a sixpence, but physique is a little slight for a defensive mid. His playing style in fact is reminiscent of the oft-mentioned Moutinho. Check out some clips on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqr-cnU27k
Ever's not the right-back or right-winger that we need but from my point of view he has all the credentials to slot into centre midfield as the box-to-box defensive mid that we need, leaving Neville to move to right back. I for one certainly hope this rumour is true.
Times story is at the bottom of this article: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/everton/article6797071.ece
Glen Anderson, Posted 14/08/2009 at 20:45:04
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Jonathan Bradley
2 Posted 15/08/2009 at 00:50:50
2 Posted 15/08/2009 at 00:50:50
The Daily Post also think its a done deal:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/wrexham-fc/2009/08/15/everton-fc-target-argentina-ace-ever-banega-55578-24446495/
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/wrexham-fc/2009/08/15/everton-fc-target-argentina-ace-ever-banega-55578-24446495/
Jason Broome
3 Posted 15/08/2009 at 01:17:03
3 Posted 15/08/2009 at 01:17:03
Bit harsh on Elm. He did say that he would way up all offers and the club that he chooses has to be just right. If we signed him I have a feeling he would be loyal to us.
Ever Banegas will struggle in his first season in the Premier League. He doesn’t have the pace or strength to handle the Premier League. Let’s hope I’m wrong.
Ever Banegas will struggle in his first season in the Premier League. He doesn’t have the pace or strength to handle the Premier League. Let’s hope I’m wrong.
Glen Anderson
4 Posted 15/08/2009 at 01:31:47
4 Posted 15/08/2009 at 01:31:47
Jason, I know YouTube can make Tony Hibbert look like Maldini but check out Ever Banegas here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqr-cnU27k&NR=1
In the clips he shows he can tackle, has tremendous skill and seems to not be short on pace. His physique is slight and it does seem he hits the deck a little too easily, but some of the qualities on display make me think that Moyes knows what he’s doing here.
In the clips he shows he can tackle, has tremendous skill and seems to not be short on pace. His physique is slight and it does seem he hits the deck a little too easily, but some of the qualities on display make me think that Moyes knows what he’s doing here.
Jonathan Bradley
5 Posted 15/08/2009 at 01:37:04
5 Posted 15/08/2009 at 01:37:04
Glen, I agree with you to an extent. If Banega works out and gets his head sorted out then Moyes will be hailed as a genius... the only problem is that Banega has, since leaving Boca, made an absolute twat of himself. That said, if Moyes can get him playing as his reputation suggests, then this could be one of the best deals ever.
Russell Buckley
6 Posted 15/08/2009 at 06:45:46
6 Posted 15/08/2009 at 06:45:46
I would like to know what his off field issue were so I could get a take on just how bigger dick head this guy is.
That being said I think most of us would be happy with any signing at this point and he looks the goods.
That being said I think most of us would be happy with any signing at this point and he looks the goods.
Raymond Choi
7 Posted 15/08/2009 at 06:49:54
7 Posted 15/08/2009 at 06:49:54
From the video he certainly looks great. At least he has something that the current team lacks at the moment: the ability to hold the ball and direct play. A loan deal with option to buy sounds like good business to me.
More on him from the Liverpool Daily Post :
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2009/08/15/everton-eyeing-argentinian-midfielder-ever-banega-92534-24445577/
More on him from the Liverpool Daily Post :
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2009/08/15/everton-eyeing-argentinian-midfielder-ever-banega-92534-24445577/
Michael Ferguson
8 Posted 15/08/2009 at 07:07:02
8 Posted 15/08/2009 at 07:07:02
Yes please, I’ll take two to go!
Alan Clarke
9 Posted 15/08/2009 at 09:15:15
9 Posted 15/08/2009 at 09:15:15
Can I just say the Arteta to Benfica story is a hoax. The Benfica website got hacked into 3 days ago. They put a load of stories up saying Benfica had signed all kinds of players.
Andy Morden
10 Posted 15/08/2009 at 09:56:02
10 Posted 15/08/2009 at 09:56:02
Is he a defensive midfielder? Thos youtube clips don’t seem to highlight any positional sense or tackling ability. They also highlight a worrying tendency to fanny about on the edge of his own box - in the prem that would get punished. Nice skills and passing though. Edited highlights of course...
Steve Edwards
11 Posted 15/08/2009 at 09:54:46
11 Posted 15/08/2009 at 09:54:46
Alan - I don’t think anybody would take that story seriously after the way Moyes has dug his heels in over Lesott going.
With regard to Banega, we had a little baldie fella playing defensive midfield the season before last and he did alright. This sounds like a runner and would be a typical Moyes signing with a buying option at the end of twelve months.
With regard to Banega, we had a little baldie fella playing defensive midfield the season before last and he did alright. This sounds like a runner and would be a typical Moyes signing with a buying option at the end of twelve months.
Alan Clarke
12 Posted 15/08/2009 at 10:41:24
12 Posted 15/08/2009 at 10:41:24
You never know Steve, people are prone to mass hysteria on this site. Just see the’ what if Moyes walks’ post.
Keith Glazzard
13 Posted 15/08/2009 at 11:28:15
13 Posted 15/08/2009 at 11:28:15
There’s no doubt that Arteta will have many suitors in Spain and Portugal - a Catalan paper had him going to Espanyol for last season - but I’m sure (I hope) that Alan is right about the Benfica story. OK, he’ll go ’home’ one day as he has said, but not for a good while yet. Besides - isn’t he still rcovering from serious injury?
By the way, if Moyes is saying Lescott is a £30m player, what price would he put on Mikel?
The Banega story sounds interesting.
By the way, if Moyes is saying Lescott is a £30m player, what price would he put on Mikel?
The Banega story sounds interesting.
Nick Armitage
14 Posted 15/08/2009 at 11:54:41
14 Posted 15/08/2009 at 11:54:41
He looks like me playing 5-a-side. but not as tall. Looking at him and his history he looks like a potential class act who has lost his way, the usual Moyes signing.
We have needed a player who can use the ball in that position for a long time and, as an added bonus, Argentinians are as horrible as Australians - I hope this one is no different.
I hope we get him but if we sign him ’The Everton Way’ then expect Super Phil Neville to be in our defensive holding role at Christmas.
Anyway, I’m off to watch Football Focus. we might get a mention coz we are playing Arsenall.
COYB.
We have needed a player who can use the ball in that position for a long time and, as an added bonus, Argentinians are as horrible as Australians - I hope this one is no different.
I hope we get him but if we sign him ’The Everton Way’ then expect Super Phil Neville to be in our defensive holding role at Christmas.
Anyway, I’m off to watch Football Focus. we might get a mention coz we are playing Arsenall.
COYB.
Ian Tod
15 Posted 15/08/2009 at 12:15:46
15 Posted 15/08/2009 at 12:15:46
This guy looks like an Arteta/Carsley combination with a bit of pace in the mix. If Moyes can get him to play his best we would have a formidable central midfield with Arteta and him running the show.
Thomas Surgenor
16 Posted 15/08/2009 at 13:29:50
16 Posted 15/08/2009 at 13:29:50
Banega would be a great signing.
I watch a lot of football and the two most recent signings i got excited over were Arteta and Baines. (I wasn’t excited over Jags.. but boy was i proved wrong there!)
In regards to the Arteta story;
Benficia have just made a custom news page.
A month ago our very own evertonfc.co.uk offered fans the chance to watch a video of Evertons new signing and showed you his shirt at the end of the video...all you had to do was ’’insert name here’’ and email it to your friends.
Benficias site is exactly the same as that.
Follow the link below for proof... this is one i made up for our very own Tony Hibbert.
Link
I watch a lot of football and the two most recent signings i got excited over were Arteta and Baines. (I wasn’t excited over Jags.. but boy was i proved wrong there!)
In regards to the Arteta story;
Benficia have just made a custom news page.
A month ago our very own evertonfc.co.uk offered fans the chance to watch a video of Evertons new signing and showed you his shirt at the end of the video...all you had to do was ’’insert name here’’ and email it to your friends.
Benficias site is exactly the same as that.
Follow the link below for proof... this is one i made up for our very own Tony Hibbert.
Link
David Hallwood
17 Posted 15/08/2009 at 13:36:51
17 Posted 15/08/2009 at 13:36:51
Would’nt it be just typical of DM if he signs any one or even all three of the players we’ve been linked with,Ever Banega, Vladimir Bystrov, Isaac Vorsah. All of them completely off the radar and let’s be honest players I’ve never heard of-priceless!
Jon Cox
18 Posted 15/08/2009 at 13:56:58
18 Posted 15/08/2009 at 13:56:58
I like the look of this lad. The first thing that came into my head was to think of the damage he would cause just outside the opponents penalty area.
With him and Arteta in midfield (once gelled) we would have a formidable duo.
With Nev covering rb and £18 plus swp from city it would be a simple case of hang on tight it’s going to be a white nuckle season.
With him and Arteta in midfield (once gelled) we would have a formidable duo.
With Nev covering rb and £18 plus swp from city it would be a simple case of hang on tight it’s going to be a white nuckle season.
Jon Cox
19 Posted 15/08/2009 at 14:01:45
19 Posted 15/08/2009 at 14:01:45
Sorry I meant to say £18 mill. Although knowing citeh I wouldn’t put it past them to try it on!
Tony Waring
20 Posted 15/08/2009 at 16:04:07
20 Posted 15/08/2009 at 16:04:07
Apparently we have also enquired about Gago of Unreal Madrid - a snip at £11 million -but were given short shrift. Seen him a few times on TV but could’nt really say that I was very impressed.
Rob Esteva
21 Posted 15/08/2009 at 16:25:22
21 Posted 15/08/2009 at 16:25:22
Hi folks,
I agree with most comments here....Banega is not a defensive midfielder.....rather a deep lying playmaker if anything. Had a better rep than Gago back in Arg, but has struggled since moving to Europe. Reminds me a little of Manny Fernandes is DM can get him focused. Needs regular football, and could be a good addition...depending on how he settles.....
I agree with most comments here....Banega is not a defensive midfielder.....rather a deep lying playmaker if anything. Had a better rep than Gago back in Arg, but has struggled since moving to Europe. Reminds me a little of Manny Fernandes is DM can get him focused. Needs regular football, and could be a good addition...depending on how he settles.....
Iain Smith
22 Posted 15/08/2009 at 17:15:17
22 Posted 15/08/2009 at 17:15:17
This guy look s proper good. Very Arteta indeed. Have a gander at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqr-cnU27k&NR=1 - however if he tries that one in his own box then Moyes will rip him a new one!
Iain Smith
23 Posted 15/08/2009 at 17:16:46
23 Posted 15/08/2009 at 17:16:46
Also just had a look on Wikipedia...is his real first name Everton?! If not, then that’s hilarious, if it is amazing!
Glen Anderson
24 Posted 16/08/2009 at 00:01:32
24 Posted 16/08/2009 at 00:01:32
No, his name is Ever which I am informed is of Uruguayan origin.
Anyway, if this rumour is true let’s hope he didn’t witness the thrashing meted out to our defence today and he actually still does wish to sign for us.
Anyway, if this rumour is true let’s hope he didn’t witness the thrashing meted out to our defence today and he actually still does wish to sign for us.
Glen Anderson
25 Posted 16/08/2009 at 01:43:31
25 Posted 16/08/2009 at 01:43:31
I’ve been keeping tabs on the Spanish sites re: this story and unfortunately Banega appeared at a Valencia CF press conference today talking up their forthcoming Europa League game against Stabaek of Norway next week.
This suggests that he’s not on his way to Everton for a medical anytime soon, he will play next week for Valencia in the Europa League and if we do get him before the window shuts he’ll be cup tied in Europe.
This suggests that he’s not on his way to Everton for a medical anytime soon, he will play next week for Valencia in the Europa League and if we do get him before the window shuts he’ll be cup tied in Europe.
Glen Anderson
26 Posted 16/08/2009 at 01:45:54
26 Posted 16/08/2009 at 01:45:54
Forgot to add the link: http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.valenciacf.com%2Fcontenidos%2 FActualidad%2FNoticias%2F2009%2F08%2FNoticia_19109.html
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Paul Conatzer
27 Posted 16/08/2009 at 17:48:06
27 Posted 16/08/2009 at 17:48:06
The latest rumour is that Everton are interested in Real Madrid's Guti. You know that's like saying I'm interested in shagging Angela Jolie or Penelope Cruz......The list of interested in could go on and on......but probably isn't likely to happen.
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1 Posted 15/08/2009 at 00:42:20
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/15/joleon-lescott-everton-manchester-city-transfer-saga