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Get Back To Basics
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What a horrific first game of the new season. Clearly we are all fuming about what was served up yesterday. I think the Lescott saga has been done to death so I'll try to avoid focusing on that. Sadly, there are plenty of other areas which can be explored with equal incredulity and exasperation!
Yet again we have been outplayed by a better footballing team in Arsenal. Perhaps no shame considering their pedigree. Yet there have been plenty of examples of "lesser" teams doing similar to us over the past few years. Why are we in general, such a poor passing team?
This, on reflection, is one of the main reasons i feel we are standing still when playing the better sides in the league. Too often we give the ball away through loose passing. You may get away with it against the likes of Stoke or Hull, but the quality teams will punish you.
I'm tired of the relentless hoofball we play. Sure, we don't have too many players of Arteta's class, but surely the basics of pass and move apply to ANY top flight professional? Take Arsenal yesterday. They never kept still, always looking to pass and move and create space by dragging defenders out of position with clever runs. Compare that to us and how we "play". Just what are we doing on the training ground? Seven season in and we are still one of the worst teams to watch in the league.
If we can't compete with the better teams in terms of on-the-ball control, let's at least be aggressive and close down space. If WE can't play, let's at least stop them. Yesterday, we did neither. I don't think the result was a true reflection on either club, but the fact it happened needs addressing.
If we do end up not signing anyone of quality (God forbid, anyone at all...) then for fuck's sake let's do the basics right. Be aggressive, track runners, win headers. Nobody expects miracles, but everyone should expect the bare minimum.
The next few days will be interesting. I hope we do make some signings. I hope everyday at Finch Farm is spent reflecting upon that shameful display on Saturday.
I even hope one day we will be a team that does pass and move and is easy on the eye. Until then, let's get back to basics, eh lads?
Lionel Luthor, Posted 16/08/2009 at 15:15:24
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1 Posted 16/08/2009 at 20:56:20
Keep it on the floor... find space... pass and move.
Is that old hat now?
2 Posted 16/08/2009 at 20:56:37
3 Posted 16/08/2009 at 21:17:59
4 Posted 16/08/2009 at 21:33:25
Not only must the entire squad and management take responsibility for the poor show... I can’t help but feel the referee played a huge part in opening the flood gates. The amount of soft free-kicks that went against us in the first 20 mins set the tone for a completely ’contact-free’ match, thus rendering Everton hopeless. The physical and aerial battle were the only battles we could have won... the ref made sure that there was no physical battle.
Can it be any worse on Thursday?
5 Posted 16/08/2009 at 22:29:45
We play hoofball when we’re shot to pieces mentally or often in the case when we play one of the Top 4, when we go into some sort of defensive mindset.
What we have at the moment is Hibbert, Osman, Yobo and Baines totally at odds with their own games and Lescott in well I’ll turn out and do my best mode.
WE also have a major problem in sorting out how to play Fellaini,Neville and Cahill together, and it effectively relying on Pienaar to provide the goods.
Hibbert is totally shot in the head, the FA Cup Final did him and he’s not recovered, and the rest know it completely. Yobo is in one of the phases were he is like jack-in-the-box and Baines is distraught that he is best mate Lescott wants to leave.
When our psychiatrists (Stubbs and Holden) sort it out we’ll get better.
6 Posted 16/08/2009 at 22:41:39
Mike Oates captured the Lescott issue on the head — thank of it this way: Bainsey knows that Lescott wants out of their partnership; they step into a dark alley for a row with some red shites; Bainsey can no longer turn his back without having to peak at Lescott looking toward the city of Manchester... This stinks — send him on his way and give us someone that wants to be part of the team.
7 Posted 17/08/2009 at 04:09:15
8 Posted 17/08/2009 at 09:15:20
We all know we seriously lack creativity without Arteta but David Moyes teams can usually be relied on to try and make up for this with a bit of heart. When I watched that goal go in, I knew the players had given up, which was sickening.
IMO, the main problem right now is the Cahill/Fellaini conundrum. They simply cannot play in the same team. If Moyes insists in playing Fellaini behind the striker (or stood right fucking next to him doing fuck all) then he completely nullifies any threat from Tim Cahill. I would prefer to see TIm in this role, he plays it better, understands it better and at present, playing the deeper midfield role, he offers fuck all. I would rather see the Afro on the bench as Plan B, until we can figure out what the fuck his position is.
Finally, I know it wont happen, but I'd like to see Rodwell in for Hibbert (Nev at RB) and Gosling in for Osman. I'm not jumping on the Hibbert/Osman bashing bandwagon but something needs to be done to freshen up this very stale team.
Oh, and can anyone tell what the fuck Jo is all about? If we take him full time I will be devastated.
9 Posted 17/08/2009 at 10:09:03
I commented on Ken’s piece that our only form of attack on Saturday was to play the ball out wide then lump it in high into the box. It isn’t even making the best of all our available players: Jo may not be a world beater but he’s better playing it on the ground than in the air.
But how right you are about the basics. Arsenal had so much time on the ball (especially for Fabregas’s solo goal when nobody went near him). When we were on the ball they closed us down immediately. How hard is it to offer 2 options to the man on the ball, and then to play one of them with a pass on the ground and not at waist height or higher, so that the player doesn’t have to waste time controlling the ball?
10 Posted 17/08/2009 at 10:14:25
The two games against Sigma and the game away at Burnley are our pre-season games now.
11 Posted 17/08/2009 at 10:38:45
12 Posted 17/08/2009 at 10:50:36
13 Posted 17/08/2009 at 11:03:24
Why oh why didn’t Pienars play in the middle? Put Saha, Jo or even young James left-hand side and Timmy on the right, Jack in the middle holding role (young legs) and Pip to right back, this would take Ossie and Hibbo off and leave better players on.
14 Posted 17/08/2009 at 12:25:13
David Moyes and his backroom staff, have a mountain to climb, in getting team moral up for our game on Thursday night. So let's hope, we can put that shambles of a display last Saturday behind us.
15 Posted 17/08/2009 at 12:36:58
I see we’ve not signed Senderos which people predicted we would following the Arsenal game and I also see Taylor is not having a medical today. I also see that Argentine fella has not been anywhere near Goodison.
Perhaps after Saturday, Moyes has decided his squad’s good enough!
16 Posted 17/08/2009 at 12:50:00
I fail to understand why any player (except under pressure in defence) has to hoof the ball, this is simply giving posession away.
I noticed during the match that balls sent into the box more often than not landed kindly for the Arsenal players — better positioning? Better movement?
Basics is right — one wonders why these guys are worth £40k a week if they cannot control the football.
17 Posted 17/08/2009 at 13:29:30
Most of the true blue fans know the weaknesses and we cannot understand why Moyes can’t and if he can why has he been so inactive during the summer?.If new players are not brought in soon then we will continue to struggle and by the time the injured players come back and get some matches under there belts we could be in a dire situation.
18 Posted 17/08/2009 at 13:33:22
19 Posted 17/08/2009 at 15:00:29
20 Posted 17/08/2009 at 17:02:45
A couple of pacy wingers allowing us to move Pienaar into a similar role in which he plays for South Africa, would reap dividends if Arteta was back and playing centre midfield. Oh to dream.....
Until then (ever the optimist... or is that deluded?), let’s get in the mix and stop the more fluid passing teams from getting into their stride.
21 Posted 17/08/2009 at 13:38:54
22 Posted 16/08/2009 at 19:33:55
Howard Neville Yobo Lescott Baines Rodwell Vaughan Peinaar Gosling Cahill Saha
I think this team will offers us something new, pace on both wings and also craft in the centre. We bady need a result against City to show the EFC spirit hasn't been ruined by our wantaway defender. COYB
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