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Contracts and Confusion

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It is difficult to know where to start with the debacle that was the defeat to Arsenal. So many issues have been raised here on ToffeeWeb, from the Hibbert/Osman debate, through the Kenwright/Moyes issues, the relative merits of this player and that etc.

Obviously uppermost in the current debate is the on-going saga of the Lescott situation. Its impact on Everton on a number of fronts is undeniable for a whole variety of reasons. But I do feel that a wider issue is often overlooked which I think points the finger at the corrupt underbelly of modern football and which has impacted so badly upon Everton. Namely the so-called authorities and administrators of the game.

What has been overlooked in the Lescott saga seems to be the fact that he is an employee of Everton Fooball Club because both parties entered into a CONTRACT of employment. These documents seem to be important in organising, in a civilised manner, the arrangements freely entered into by willing partners, especially in the work place.

Into this scenario comes another club who wish to buy Lescott. Everton apparently do not want to sell him. End of story? Not in football it seems. Man City then continue to actively pursue Lescott, thus destabilising Everton on a number of fronts; treating contractual arrangements with utter contempt and causing a great deal of personal and collective unrest in the club. And what do the authorities do about it? Nothing, and it would appear that at least publically Everton are as culpable as the FA in not demanding that the strongest possible action be taken against Man City for their flagrant contempt for legally binding documents and due process. Even by the corrupt standards that infect football at every level, this is surely some kind of watershed? However, few people seem to be taking this with any degree of seriousness simply dealing with it at the level of the EFFECT it has had on Everton. The compromising situation is being felt by Lescott, Moyes, Kenwright, the "board", and the players themselves, with reactions such as "Oh well if we can get £20 million for him let him go." etc.

I can appreciate the feeling of "he has asked for the transfer now so let him go" but this is a very thick end of a very very thick wedge. The craven abdication of those with responsibility for ensuring the "rule of law" in these matters simply confirms the fact that there is no ethical base whatsoever in soccer. The economics of the mad house are being allowed free reign and it is clear for all to see how Everton have been compromised almost into oblivion.

I admired Moyes for originally standing his ground but alas the cretins in the corridors of incompetence seem now to make of him a fool in many people's eyes. When the law's rules and regulations are allowed to be flaunted with impunity and the culprits allowed their way what precisely does this "beautiful game" have left?
Anthony Lamb, Ormskirk     Posted 16/08/2009 at 20:16:07

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Trevor Williams
1   Posted 17/08/2009 at 08:33:13

For over 25 years I have watched Everton and football in general; however, it is now no longer a game, it's a business that we, as fans, have no control over. We can't control who runs it or how they run it. We are all praying that some oil tycoon from anywhere in the world buys us out and we don’t care who it is as long as he is loaded. That's how the game has now gone sadly. The current saga with Lescott, highlights this. Football is not a game, it's a business.

Man City are trying to buy every player under the sun and offering amazing wages, why? Simply because they can. Let’s not kid ourselves, we would love to be in the same situation as them and we would then be doing the same in the transfer market — the very same thing we are moaning about. Unless that is we would buy a load of free players... I think not.

It's not nice when the boot is on the other foot but we have to accept it. When we bought Johnson from Palace, time after time they said he wasn’t for sale, yet we raised the bid. Someone tell me what the difference is please and don’t spout the he came to a bigger club bollocks as the principle is still the same.

As I have also said before, contracts mean one thing, when someone bids for you they have to bid more for each year you have left. Nothing to do with loyalty. IT'S A BUSINESS.

Finally, let's all calm down about the game, yes we were shit and going in 3–0 down to Arsenal was always going to lead to more goals for them. This was the team who scored 4 only 4 months ago at a title-chasing side. So please lets calm down a bit. Its a marathon, not a sprint.

Anthony Millington
2   Posted 17/08/2009 at 05:49:09

On Saturday before the game, I made a decision that I would not boo Lescott and get behind the team to try and support them to win the game. In a way, I can understand why Lescott would want to go. After all, Everton have no money and have signed no-one, showing no ambition or improvement, whilst Man City are signing star after star and have the money to push forward and challenge for silverware.

At the end of the day, players base their success as a player on what they have won and the hard truth is that in this moment in time Man City are looking more likely to win trophies than ourseleves due to our financial constraints. I know we reached the FA Cup Final last year, but it is a feat I think we will struggle to repeat.

However, when the Everton players ran over to the Gwladys Street end before the Arsenal game, my thoughts about Lescott soon changed. Every Everton player clapped the fans, whilst Lescott gave absolutely no acknowledgement to the fans after all the support we had given him in the game a week before against Malaga.

I thought this was disgraceful, he does not deserve to wear the shirt and although I still refuse to boo an Everton player on the pitch I'm not sure if I want to see Lescott pull on the famous jersey again after that.

What message must this send out to his teammates who are supposed to be able to work alongside him. Was this why we lost the Arsenal game in such a woeful fashion? Moyes should get someone in who wants to play for us, not somebody who is only now playing for himself. Or is it too much to ask for a signing this summer?

We are yet still crying out for a creative central midfielder in a similar mould to Arteta who can pass a ball and a pacy right midfielder instead of Osman who is incapable of getting down the line and putting crosses in.

Mark Pendleton
3   Posted 17/08/2009 at 14:55:12

When we bought Johnson, we negotiated the deal directly with the club and I have seen several interviews with Simon Jordan since who never complained about EFC, he was happy he eventually got a deal he was pleased with.

No, we don’t want to be the same as Man City. If we did get an influx of cash I don’t believe we would be. They obviously informed the player (Lescott) of how much he could be earning and they leaked their bid intention long before it went on the Everton website as a rejected formal bid.

We’ve been screwed over twice this summer — once in the Naughton deal and also with Lescott. It’s all very well to say if you can’t beat them join them, but I am far happier to say we don’t do things that way than I would be if we were also criticised for underhand tactics.

Moyes made an admirable stance, but I think he needs to sell high and move on. We won’t think any less of him.
Ciarán McGlone
4   Posted 17/08/2009 at 15:39:26

Maybe Everton have not demanded any action... because they know that technically nothing has been done in breach of the current rules... Just a guess.
Mark Pendleton
5   Posted 17/08/2009 at 16:37:27

Or more precisely, they know that no action would be taken. Hughes has pretty much admitted that they haven’t followed protocol by saying if he had done Moyes would have said No.
Dan Parker
6   Posted 17/08/2009 at 18:34:34

I’m sorry Trevor but I disagree. Yes, football is a business but in how many industries are rival companies allowed to publish in papers their desire to poach one of your employees.
Ray Robinson
7   Posted 17/08/2009 at 19:24:09

Since we all despise the press for encouraging rumours and for acting as a conduit for clubs to "do their business" in public, why does the EFC official site have a feature each day on "What the papers say"?
Danny Broderick
8   Posted 17/08/2009 at 23:29:18

Unfortunately, ever since the Bosman case, the power in football has been transferred from the clubs to the players. The facts that players can now run down their contracts and leave for free has meant that contracts are worthless. The wages have spiralled out of control in the process, and so all the money that used to stay in the sport years ago now ends up in players pockets. Consequently you need billionaires in charge of the top clubs, and the rest get left behind.

Money talks, and bullshit walks I’m afraid. No legislation is ever going to change that. Years ago we could have told Lescott that he was going to rot in the reserves if he didn’t get his head right. He would have been relying on his appearance fees etc to top up his wages and he would have soon seen the light - he wouldn’t have had much choice.
These days, multi-millionaire footballers know their contract situations are like shotguns to the cubs heads. He knows that if he plays his cards right he will eventually get a £20,000,000 + transfer to City, because we can’t afford to have such a valuable asset rotting in the reserves, depreciating in value.

Mike Homfray
9   Posted 18/08/2009 at 12:14:41

Fully agree with both Trevor and Danny.
Gerry Killen
10   Posted 17/08/2009 at 21:10:23

There is no doubt that the bottom line amongst the players is our lack of new signings to boost all the hard work they put in last season. We realy should have capitalised right after the Cup Final when we were recognised all over the World as a top team — did everyone go on their jollies? Wenger rang his man while he was abroad while we were dithering.

So where do we go from here? Either take the so-called £20M that BK has promised, sell JL for another £20M, that will give Davy a decent kitty to play with OR keep what we have got and battle on. If ever there was a time (and there has been plenty) when Davy needs our prayers and encouragement it is right now, God bless my Everton.

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