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Is Lescott finally off?
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I have just heard that Lescott has not trained with the first team sqaud today. Everton have not made a comment. It now looks like he is off to City.
If we get £20M plus a few of their players, but please not Richie Dunne....
Jon Smith, Posted 19/08/2009 at 10:19:40
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2 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:11:24
3 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:16:52
4 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:21:59
5 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:32:57
6 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:36:03
7 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:35:21
These players want success but what they aren’t saying is they want lots of CASH and success. If we had retained Rooney, surely we could have gone on from there. He has become a big profit maker and we sold him for nothing in comparison. Lescott will never have that effect at City, so it makes even more of a mockery of this suggested price.
Don’t get me wrong, I want City to pay through both nostrils but why Lescott and not Rooney? I have always kept an open mind towards the board, now my heart is screaming... get rid of all of them! Blue forever....
8 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:44:28
9 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:46:26
10 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:07:56
I’d prefer Martin Petrov than Richard Dunne.
11 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:09:08
Press conference scheduled etc...
12 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:12:10
13 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:15:55
14 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:18:02
15 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:15:48
I’ll be glad when this is all over. I wonder whether Everton and Moyes would have handled this differently with hind sight. They should have gone to the negotiating table a lot sooner, got the money and invested it early on instead of now frantically scratching around for bargains.
16 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:22:31
17 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:23:37
18 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:24:32
19 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:26:00
20 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:27:26
21 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:36:14
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19082009/58/premier-league-everton-drop-lescott.html
"We won’t be including him in the squad," Everton manager David Moyes was quoted as saying by Sky Sports ahead of the clash at Goodison. "His attitude has been very poor the last few days.
"We like him a lot, he’s a very nice lad, but he has disappointed us.
"The communication between him and Manchester City has not been correct."
Speculation began when former Wolves defender Lescott was nowhere to be seen during a training session at the club’s Finch Farm complex.
22 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:36:00
I also don't want that waste of space Jo, he offers absolutely fuck all. Utter shite.
23 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:38:16
24 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:38:40
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/moyes-drops-lescott-for-sigma.html
Similar quote from Moyes to the above one.
25 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:39:25
Was always likely he’d go when there was deafening silence from him when the reports started coming out re City’s interest, never a good sign. Obviously Terry did that too and ended up staying, but we’re not in a position to provide a massive wage hike to keep him, unlike Chelski.
But anyway, assuming the +£20m deal is still on the cards, we’ll do better out of this than City imo. Hopefully it’s cash up front and Moyes has someone good lined up to replace him + others to add to the squad (one of the papers mentioned Huth as a replacement...thoughts?! Sure Taylor would be preferable..). If not, around £20m and Dunne or Petrov is a great deal in my books, especially given the situation now.
26 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:49:50
"We like him a lot, he’s a very nice lad, but he has disappointed us.
"The communication between him and Manchester City has not been correct."
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And some of you posters were clapping him at the game and telling others to do the same!!! I said last week Lescott didn’t deserve our support because he has clearly been talking to City legally through his agent and his attitude during training and matches has been disgusting. Shows how weak minded some of our fans really are.
27 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:53:03
28 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:01:52
29 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:16:23
30 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:19:22
Sad state of affairs when one year after signing he’s off. Far too much player power now but if he doesn’t want to play for us and is showing attitude then the quicker he’s gone the better. On Sky txt that Moyes is hoping to sort it out after the deadline! No Davey, just get rid now, get the money in and get it spent. There’s no way he’s ever going to clapped and cheered at Goodison again, no way back IMO.
31 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:27:29
32 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:31:23
"As far as I’m concerned I hope we can get to August 31 when the transfer window closes, and then he’ll get his head around the situation and get his attitude right," Moyes said.
"It doesn’t mean we are closer to selling him, but he won’t be back in the squad until his attitude is right."
Sounds like he is staying after all then... man what a werid start to the season we’ve had AGAIN!! :-(
33 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:26:30
But Moyes insisted he still does not want to sell the player, saying: "I hope this will all be sorted out, after the (transfer) deadline."
Why is he still insistent on keeping him if Lescott is doing what he’s doing, get rid of the cunt. I hear he refused to train, well if that's his attitude then why doesn't Moyesy take him to City himself and pick up the £20m + Petrov and Johnson whilst he’s at it and keep Jo!. : )
34 Posted 19/08/2009 at 17:41:30
After what happened on Saturday, he and the rest of them ought to be busting their balls to make amends!!
So his attitude must be what then? That he refused to train? Or he’s bitching at everyone? Reading into Moyes’s comments,it sounds like he’s effectively saying that Lescott has now turned into an arsehole...
I despair.
35 Posted 19/08/2009 at 18:04:35
It has gone past ever working and it appears he is the only one who wants him to stay now and it has become too personal to him and it is hurting the club badly. Get shut Moyes and let’s move on, it’s hardly Ronaldo we are losing.
36 Posted 19/08/2009 at 18:04:53
Its not like we are losing a Maldini or a Baresi or a Beckenabuer. He’ll be replaced if BK gives the money to Moyes. That's a big IF though. Vidic, the fella at Arsenal, and Skirtel at the RS show decent defenders are available at good prices.
37 Posted 19/08/2009 at 18:18:40
Well done Moyes, sending Joleon home to throw toys out of his pram is the right thing to do. Lescott, if he had half a brain, would never let his standards drop, especially against a side like Arsenal, and with the support he got from the fans. His lack of smarts and lack of professionalism shows why he is most likely on his way out of a big club to a bunch of losers with loads of money and a history of failure.
Let's face it, if they won a League Cup within 5 years that lot in Middle Eastlands would be over the moon. With £200 million to spend on players, I would expect Everton to win several trophies. Such is our tradition.
In addition, Rafa must stay, just in case the Red Shite get a manager with a bit of class both on and off the field.
38 Posted 19/08/2009 at 18:26:52
You call that a ringing indictment for our chairman????
39 Posted 19/08/2009 at 18:45:08
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/news/uefacup/previews/everton-v-sigma-olomouc-336956136.html
40 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:04:19
DM is in the same mold as Ferguson & he won’t be dictated to, think back to Hughes statement about "trying to talk to the people who will make the decision" - DM is in charge !! & I’m afraid lescott better get used to the fact that he really is’nt going anywhere - the sulking & tantrims are recieved with a run with the reserves.
BELIEVE ME HE IS’NT GOING ANYWHERE !!
41 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:12:44
"However, Moyes did concede that he would consider letting the England international leave the club if a suitably large offer was put on the table.
He said: "I find Joleon a really good boy to work with, a pleasure in fact. I couldn’t say enough good things about him.
"But the boy has changed. It is not just me who has noticed but the players who are working with him have noticed it as well.
"But the door is open for Joleon. We don’t want him to go, I have said that all along, unless we get an offer that I think is right.
"But at the present time he is not in the squad and it is best that we get on without him."
42 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:31:30
The player needs to go ASAP so we can try and draft some recruits in before the deadline. But please God not the fucking Dunny Monster.
43 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:47:51
I’ve always believed Moyes has a figure of around £25m in mind whether that’s a straight deal or say £20m plus a player is debatable. I seriously expect the club to now demand City put up or shut up. The serious bargaining starts now and not with an opening salvo of £15m its more likely the bidding will now commence at £20m. If Moyes does succeed in realising a figure in this region it may well have been worth the deliberations.
The fans have shown the manager great support throughout this whole saga and it’s now more important than ever they continue to do so. The last thing the manager and the club need now is for the fans to be demanding a quick sale.
44 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:44:13
I do suppose that by making a stance like this though, Moyes is trying to send a message out to other clubs that, unless we want it to happen, you have no chance. Unlike a couple of season ago, when the likes of West Ham were said to be after Cahill. I hope he pulls it off.
45 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:46:46
A Wolves fan I know has asked one of their officials what they’ll get if he’s sold: it’s definitely 10% of anything above £5M, so on the current offer (£18M), Wolves get £1.3M & we get £16.7M.
46 Posted 19/08/2009 at 19:41:15
I’m a great believer in Moyes but I think he realy should have seen this coming and sold him when he handed his transfer request in.
Sell for £20mil + Petrov and M Johnson. Buy Sakho (CB from PSG), Senderos and Bentley.
47 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:01:34
48 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:08:28
That rules out most of their players then and the players they probably want to offload will have an over-inflated price on them much like Lescott. If they are thinking of offering £18M + Dunne and we are pushing for £25M (rumoured), I can't see Dunne being worth £7m... not a sniff!
49 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:02:52
Now it is obvious that he wanted to go. So Moyes should have said to Kenwright, "Lets screw as much out of City as possible, Petrov i would like." Then demand all of the transfer money to get in players. Tuncay off 'Boro'; Taylor off the Barcodes, and Hutton off Spurs.
With today's actions of him training with the reserves, we are left with an unhappy player whose attitdute stinks and a very stubborn Moyes and no-one is happy. Where do we go from here? Moyes's stance is admirable but after what he has said in the press he may feel stupid if he backs down and let's Lescott go.
50 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:29:26
This issue has always been between Moyes and Man City. Everton, to date, have only done what Moyes has told them.
I suspect (can't guarantee this for sure mate sorry) that the reason Moyes’s contract took so long was because of the wording within. Moyes wanted guarantees and one of those would have been control of the incoming, outgoing and existing players.
Moyes is very VERY smart. Through all negotiations, and even more so after the contract, Moyes has stated his ’loyalty’ to everything — including EFC. Let's just hope EFC will be loyal to the contract they agreed with Moyes.
It's all politics my friend... Still want to make that bet ;-)
51 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:43:26
Let’s face it he’s got 3+ years on his contract so his value won't plummet immediately plus he’ll suddenly realise that this is a World Cup year and playing reserve team football won't get him on the plane to South Africa!! If that isn't a wake up call then I dont know what is.
Good on you Davey, stick to your guns!!
52 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:56:24
Suzy, you have to admit this transfer saga has not panned out the way you’ve predicted and you haven’t stayed true to your original story.
I hope what your saying about Moyes being very smart is true BUT if this deal doesn’t go through until deadline day and Moyes finds £25 million burning a hole in his pocket until January and we have a depleted squad, "mark my words" I will be very very pissed off.
53 Posted 19/08/2009 at 13:34:10
So farewell then, Joleon. Enjoy the money.
54 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:51:48
55 Posted 19/08/2009 at 15:53:25
Guess that's him gone then. What price will we get now?
56 Posted 19/08/2009 at 21:23:10
57 Posted 19/08/2009 at 16:28:18
With Jagielka out, I expected Lescott to stay until he returned, then if he was fit in time, move on in January. If Jags wasn't fit in time, I thought Lescott would stay until the summer. I thought he'd be a big enough man to see that Everton needed him for at least the first half of the season.
It appears that Lescott isn't prepared to help out the club and manager that were prepared to give him his chance, so fuck him. If he isn't professional enough to get his head around his "problems" and play for Everton, then give Man City a £30M take-it-or-leave-it price. If the £30M isn't forthcoming then leave him in the reserves and give him a year to think about what a naughty boy he's been.
58 Posted 19/08/2009 at 20:53:00
you say the issue is between Man City and David Moyes and I think you have hit the nail on the head, Moyes's ego is at stake here and it is not beneficial to the people who employ him, Everton Football Club, or the supporters of the club.
He took us to the brink of disaster at the start of last season with his childish sulking because he couldn’t get his own way, and here we are 12 months on, Moyes posturing again and putting his own stubbornness and arrogance before the good of the club.
The much criticised Chairman needs to nip this one in the bud as soon as possible, he and the Board must tell Moyes to sell Lescott and get some quality players in before the deadline. If Moyes doesn’t like it, let him piss off, there are plenty of young hungry and ambitious managers out there (does that ring any bells 7 years on?).
He has dithered and dithered again and again for weeks now, and by his own admission HE runs things at Everton, so the failure to sign Naughton, Delph and Elm — just three of the players we know for definite he targeted — is down to HIM, it is definitely getting to the stage where he is putting himself and all his egos before the good of the club,
We all know and all the managers in the Premier Leagur know that the right side of midfield needs replacing this season, but I cannot for the life of me understand why Moyes can't see this, it really can't be that hard to find a right full back and a right winger can it?
59 Posted 19/08/2009 at 21:43:17
But maybe not - if they can’t come up with the cash, he stays anyway.
60 Posted 19/08/2009 at 22:38:06
Also, there is the fact that, IF Moyes does sell Lescott, who says he will get the money raised for much needed transfers? The board may see fit to hold much of it back to service debts and "project trashcan".
So at the end of the day, we may be selling a player just to service debts and not bolster the squad... stranger things have happened.
61 Posted 19/08/2009 at 23:02:46
As to Joleon I think he’s playing a risky game as Moyes is a disciplinarian but by all accounts is a pussycat compared to Fabio Capello. He demands ’old fashioned’ respect & good behaviour, so if JL plays up then I’d be very surprised if Capello wouldn’t take notice.
62 Posted 20/08/2009 at 01:00:27
63 Posted 20/08/2009 at 09:11:44
Lescott is 100% DEFINITELY leaving EFC. I THINK it will be in the January transfer window. At the absolute WORST it will be BEFORE the 2010 World Cup. I have always been consistent with this as we both know. Please let me know where you get this ‘the year after that’ quotation. If you manage to do this I will send you 4 tickets to the game of your choice (has to be a home game). My next comment smothered in certainty is that you will not be able to do this. I would, in all honesty, be a little surprised if you even respond.
Start thinking things through before you commit. Good man!
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1 Posted 19/08/2009 at 10:07:35
Looks like he's played his last game for us, folks. Rodwell & Yobo paired together on Thursday, anyone? Thanks for your service, Joleon; but don't expect flowers and chocolates upon your Sky-Blue return..