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Why we should all just give up
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Football is a great game, but a shoddy business.
We all sit here waiting on these transfers, but what's really going on? It's a series of mind games and negotiations between various well dodgy characters you wouldn't dream of buying a used car off — that's what.
Everton will let Lescott go. Whether or not Moyes is in on it is anybody's guess, but Pinocchio Kenwright (tells porkies and has someone's — Green's — hand up his rear) is just doing exactly what he did with Rooney. I guarantee you Lescott will go in the the last 48 hoursof the window. City are hoping we'll get cold feet and accept a lower price now because they know Everton needs the cash to buy these 4 players Moyes is on about.
Just wait until the last day, like last year, while the agents and money men swill around in their troughs of greed trying to arrange as many deals as they can. Lescott will go, Senderos or perhaps Wheater will come in, so will Banega (laughably already cup tied for Europe after playing for Valencia last night... makes you wonder if this is another phantom Kenwright move?) Distin too on a massive signing on fee, and finally we'll get a loan deal for someone we have never heard of playing in Macedonia or somewhere. Just like last year, there will actually be a surplus and this will be squirelled back to the DK Fund while we are left to wonder what the hell happened.
Only consolation is that this tide of greed and shady dealings is going on at nearly every other club. Just log on on Sept 1 to find out what happened and enjoy what's left of Summer in the meantime!
Karl Masters, Posted 21/08/2009 at 13:29:04
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2 Posted 21/08/2009 at 17:28:59
3 Posted 21/08/2009 at 17:30:56
4 Posted 21/08/2009 at 17:37:12
5 Posted 21/08/2009 at 18:52:31
So many people, so many lies or is it untruths that come from the "Official" side of things. I know it keeps us fans on our toes, but I for one have sore feet now!!
6 Posted 21/08/2009 at 19:06:24
If you want to give up on your club then go for it. Don't be so proud of the fact that it makes you come on and write about it though. Loser.
7 Posted 21/08/2009 at 19:07:22
8 Posted 21/08/2009 at 19:20:38
It seems Suzy has defied science, and developed a new syndrome called ’Constant EFC-PMS’. ;-) sorry!
9 Posted 21/08/2009 at 20:30:13
One word; Duncan.
10 Posted 21/08/2009 at 20:28:14
Oh, perhaps this means he will forfeit his cut of the transfer fee (is that 10%, I don’t know, but that would be £2m out of £20m), so the club is £2m better off. That’s why we’ve persuaded him to put his name to paper?
As this is only my misguided logic I am fully qualified to say what a pile of poo it is. If anyone thinks anything like this has been going on in the Lescott affair, let them come up with something even more improbable.
11 Posted 21/08/2009 at 20:46:19
12 Posted 21/08/2009 at 21:14:22
I meant give up wasting our energy worrying about it all, not give up on the Club totally.
(That’s never going to happen. Back in England tomorrow and hoping for a win at Turf Moor like everyone else. I’m an addict like the rest of us.)
You should read it more carefully. Dumb arse! :)
13 Posted 21/08/2009 at 21:18:27
Got to line their coats with Nylons and Antique Digital Watches ready for one last day of business.
14 Posted 21/08/2009 at 21:52:40
I have read back through it and still maintain that the leading statement is not supported by the main text. It is really shabby. Dumb arse is a phase I have not heard for a long time and certainly not as frequently as you may have. Thank you for bringing it back though — it's awesome dude.
A few corrections seeing as though you are acting like such a twat: City do not suddenly think we are desperate for cash just because Moyes has said he wants four players. We will not get a loan deal for someone we have never heard of. We will not get a loan deal for some playing in Macedonia (’somewhere’ is a pretty big place though and I too feel we might get someone form there). There was not a surplus last year - look forward to hearing you qualify that statement.
15 Posted 21/08/2009 at 23:00:16
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1208270/Everton-boss-Moyes-eyes-Spartak-winger-Bystrov-Banega-swoop.html?ITO=1490
16 Posted 21/08/2009 at 22:32:10
I believe you kicked off the ’Americanisms’ describing me as a ’Loser’ for stating that I felt we should all give up worrying about transfers as they are basically out of our hands, and, seemingly, in some very grubby ones if you look at the characters behind the machinations. (ie, Agents and Bill Kenwright’s mysterious money sources.)
Clearly you take things a bit too personally when the reposte of ’Dumb Arse’ is used with a smile.
If I recall correctly, last year we sold McFadden for £5.5m, Johnson for £13.8m and let Carsley and Wessels leave for nothing. Total £19.3m (These are press reported figures of course and do not get paid in lump sums, but we’ll have to assume that we pay on the drip and we receive on the drip at roughly equal speeds.)
We eventually brought in the unheard of Castillo (an Ecuadorian from the Serbian league, so why not somebody else you have never heard of from neighbouring Macedonia, Suzy?) on loan, Pienaar for £2.5m, Saha for £1.8m, Nash for free and Fellaini for €15m, ie roughly £12m at the time. Total £16.3m which leaves £3m give or take left over.
Anyway, whatever the numbers, we clearly had no spare cash at all despite good prize money from League finishes etc. So we reached a situation in 2008 where we have to sell to buy, hence no signings again this Summer bar loans and it will stay that way, in my opinion, until we have Kirkby sorted out one way or another and BK either sells up or more investment comes in. Lescott’s sale is the only way we will have any real money to spend this Summer.
I appreciate BK cannot tell the world we have no money, but I am bored with the circus, the lies and the bullshit coming from Everton. It’s ben going on since the Rooney Summer and that’s 5 years now of Fortress, Russian oligarch’s, watch this space, Robbie Savage debacles, Naughton snatched from our hands etc, etc.
My post is borne from utter frustration that despite the Club having record turnover the money is disappearing even quicker into he hands of grubby agents and our players who must average about £40k a week if you work out the wages from the Accounts.
Us fans worry ourselves silly, but what’s the point? We can only vote with our feet and that’s not so easy is it? May as well sit back and let it unfold in front of us... And yes, it is grubby, it is greed driven and it is ’disgusting’ to quote David Moyes and I make no apology for saying it again.
Anyway, Suzy, we are supposed to be on the same side so let’s agree to disagree if that’s the case and move on.
17 Posted 21/08/2009 at 23:04:46
18 Posted 21/08/2009 at 23:15:20
The Bystrov deal looks dead to be honest
19 Posted 21/08/2009 at 23:22:38
20 Posted 21/08/2009 at 23:37:00
I suppose we have to accept that he could turn out to be a Veron... or, on the other hand, he could be a Tevez or Mascherano, where we are simply being used as a Shop Window, like West Ham were. Still, with no money to speak of at present, this is what we must accept, and as Gerry says, Banega and Jo could have cost £34m to get in the team in 2008 and yet we have them for loan fees only. If they flop we just ’return to sender’ :)
Hopefully of course they’ll be a huge success and an Evertonian will win the £200m jackpot on the Italian state lottery tomorrow an take over the Club!
21 Posted 22/08/2009 at 09:12:20
(Suzy, I’m having a luagh with you here so don’t swear at me again).
22 Posted 22/08/2009 at 11:38:46
So on Sept 1st we may well have brought in £20 milll and spent about.... £5mill with another £15 mill squirreled away to the BKKCB (Bill Kenwright Kirkby Cash Blackhole). The quesion is will Blue Bill even have the decency to wear a mask?!
23 Posted 22/08/2009 at 13:31:11
24 Posted 22/08/2009 at 13:38:26
25 Posted 22/08/2009 at 06:59:01
Of course, it could well be unworkable but I'm fed up with clubs behaving horribly and getting away with it — time someone acted on the issue.
26 Posted 22/08/2009 at 06:53:48
27 Posted 21/08/2009 at 23:59:55
I seem to remember he left Preston to get more money managing at Everton and he let Rooney go without dribbling down his face. The guy has handled the whole situation really badly and made a scapegoat of Lescott, not to mention he looks a twat because, having said he wouldn't let him go, he now has to. What a melon!
28 Posted 20/08/2009 at 19:49:16
29 Posted 20/08/2009 at 17:09:35
30 Posted 22/08/2009 at 14:59:34
31 Posted 22/08/2009 at 17:34:20
DM is the sort of person who would honour a contract — unless EFC gave their blessing for him to talk to a third party.
32 Posted 22/08/2009 at 20:49:28
You are challenging the wrong person.
My numbers differ from yours. So, in the interest of fairness, and as common ground, i have chosen to use Toffewebs data.
You have AJ down as 13.8m
You have JM down at 5.5m
TW have AJ @ 10.5
TW have JM @ 4.75
This excludes Saha for which you have a very questionable 1.8m (an absolute mile out). In addition, the numbers that i am subject to are a lot less again. In your favour we paid more for Fellaini than the 12m you suggested (12.9 based on TW data)(?)
Either way (and most favourable to you) you are incorrect with your statement and your positive advance is actually a negative (which was the foundation of my challenge tool).
In addition i can guarantee you EFC payed now where near 1.8m for Saha. Where did you get that from?
Stupid stupid boy. Incorrect data is very dangerous and using it to prove a point is absolutely ridiculous. A weak attempt to win a debate. You chose the wrong person Karl.
’Agree to disagree’ - not when you state inaccurate information friend. I respect you opinions but dont try and baffle me wih with BS.
Enjoy the Burnley game. If we run into eachother then get your hand in your pocket. The exchange rate is far more favourable now than when i had a season ticket living in the US.
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1 Posted 21/08/2009 at 09:47:41