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Diniyar Bilyaletdinov

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Thank heavens, we've finally signed someone, it's official. A left sided winger with a good international pedigree and only 24 years of age.

It's on the official site so I'm half expecting both the player and Locomotiv Moscow to deny all knowledge of this! Seriously though I'm delighted as I've been down in the dumps since the Burnley game.

COYB!!
David Nicholls, Lancaster     Posted 25/08/2009 at 05:09:30

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Neil Humphrey
1   Posted 25/08/2009 at 07:03:21

The OS is reporting that we have signed Bilyaletdinov from Lokomotiv Moscow. Paper reports are suggesting £9-10m. Composed winger with an eye for goal and a regular in the Russian side. You can see him here:



This has a number of implications. Firstly, as he is a left winger, one would assume that Pienaar will move to the right hand side. Secondly, all the nay-sayers who said Moyes wouldn’t get to spend any of the Lescott money were clearly wrong. Finally, Tony Marsh, who stated that we would sign ’no-one of note’, has been proven full of shit yet again.
Andrew Bankes
2   Posted 25/08/2009 at 07:16:13

WE’VE SIGNED SOMEBODY!!!! WE’VE ACTUALLY SIGNED A REAL HUMAN PLAYER!!!
Justin Widdop
3   Posted 25/08/2009 at 08:20:06

At last a winger...

If we can now move Pienaar to the right, bring Banega in for the centre of the park which means moving Pip to right back that will do me.

Add to that two centre backs (Distin & Huth for £5 million each) and a left back as cover I will be happy.

That will give us plenty of options in the middle, 4 decent centre backs, options at full backs and add to that a fit Arteta and Yak. That for me is a decent squad which I did not expect 48 hours a go.

Although only 1 of those signings as been confirmed. The hoping continues...
Robert Treacy
4   Posted 25/08/2009 at 09:21:42

On a positive note (because their is few) Diniyar Bilyaletdinov looks class.

He doesn't collapse in a heap when tackled tries to stay on his feet and has a good finish. Hope he is as good as the video on you tube.

I also hope he isn't the last signing this week as the current crop of players look tired and that's worrying after just two league games. The squad needs freshening up.
Sean Joyce
5   Posted 25/08/2009 at 09:29:26

Well we have at last done it, signed a player according to the OS. But wait, we will not get to see him for over a month because of Visa problems etc etc..... Only Everton, Only Everton
Neil Vaughan
6   Posted 25/08/2009 at 09:41:19

I wish people would refrain using YouTube to judge the quality of a player

FFS, YouTube could make Hibbert look half decent... on second thoughts not even YouTube is THAT good....
Alan Clarke
7   Posted 25/08/2009 at 09:42:35

I see our new signing won’t be joining up with us until after the international fixtures. Bloody hell, that means Osman gets another run out against Wigan!
Kevin Hudson
8   Posted 25/08/2009 at 09:54:20

Just wanted to say that as a speaker of Russian, and with a strong interest in that part of the world, I’ve watched Diniyar quite a bit, and like the look of him. Made up we’ve got him!!!
Ciarán McGlone
9   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:03:09

Kevin I’d have to disagree... I’ve seen a bit of this baby faced Russian... and he’s not pacey, not overly committed and most importantly not a right winger or a defensive/centre midfield player...

Completely underwhelmed by this one...

Another attacking midfielder to add to the ever growing list of players vying for a single position in our team!

I mean - is it just me, or is it not bleedin obvious where the problems lie?
Peter Griffin
10   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:07:30

Anthony Jaras - It says something when our most expensive signing to date doesn’t make your bench let alone first 11 and nobody bats an eyelid. Hopefully the Russian will give us what we have been lacking out wide.
Dan Brierley
11   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:06:17

Never seen this Russian lad play but considering how thin we are, he is certainly welcomed.

At 6ft 1, he is also a pretty big lad. The only minor concern is that his goal scoring ratio is only slightly better than Osman’s according to Wiki, and he has been playing in a weaker league. But if he is a genuine winger with the ability to supply, goal scoring will be forgiven. Welcome on board son, my word you better hit the ground running...
Jake Rose
12   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:19:40

Ciaran, you have to be the biggest moaner on here. FFS we have just signed a new player (a winger) and before the inks dry you have written him off as slow and a bottler. Do you enjoy anything about Everton? Or are you just a masochist?
Ciarán McGlone
13   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:27:37

Jake, he’s not a winger. My opinion is based on watching him play. It’s an honest appraisal. Whether you like it or not.
Dan Brierley
14   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:25:05

Ha ha, Ciaran you do make me laugh sometimes. Could you not possibly support one thing and see it as positive? It must be fucking hard being you.... ;-)

He is a left footer, so its quite obvious that he will play left mid, and peanuts switching. This will leave Ossie on the bench. Surely that is reason enough to be happy?
Tony Waring
15   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:24:13

Well Ciaran I don’t know where you saw Bilyaletdinov but is that Mickey Mouse on the YouTube clips? If he’s only half as good I won’t complain. He scores goals, passes to his team mates, controls the ball, is capable of beating the opposition.... all in all a bit of a dead loss eh? Apparently Hiddink recommended him to DM who I’m sure will have run the rule over him before committing himself.

Incidentally if memory serves me correctly the first premier leage manager to show an interest in a certain Comrade Arshavin was David Moyes, but then he wouldn’t know a classy player when he saw one would he? That apart Ciaran I concur that we have urgent needs in defence — as well as most other parts of the side.

Ciarán McGlone
16   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:39:21

Tony, I've seen quite a lot of him playing for Moscow and Russia... I don’t have access to YouTube... and even if I did — I’m not naive enough to think it means dick!
Ciarán McGlone
17   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:41:19

Here’s the point: Apart from defence... we need a right winger and a central playmaker... And we sign an attacking midfielder who can play from the left....

Excuse me if I don’t get all frothy about this — I’d rather we filled the positions we actually need filled, rather than square pegs in round holes..

I would also guess that Pienaar’s game will suffer from moving to the right...
Jason Lam
18   Posted 25/08/2009 at 06:47:29

Finally our first 'real' signing of the season. No loans, no reserves for meaningless games, no players back from long-term injuries. Will be looking to buy a long sleeve jersey to print this one.

He's listed as a winger / attacking mid, but knowing Moyes he'll probably be converted to a left back or left centerback before Christmas. So who need's Lescott?

COYB!

Adam McCulloch
19   Posted 25/08/2009 at 08:40:46

First off... thank GOD we have finally completed that long awaited task and spent some money! Hopefully more to follow.

As for our new recruit, I can't say a lot about him other than the quick bit of internet scouting that accompanies the slightest whiff of any potential transfer, but some early points:

1) Left-winger, who can also play through the middle, and judging by YouTube (!) on the right. Where would he fit in? Perhaps moving Peanuts to the centre or the right?

2) He's a big lad for a winger, 6ft.1, so at least offers us something else from set-pieces.

3) Good age, playing for a quality international side, captain for a major Russian side... all sounds promising.

4) Seems like he will give us someone who will actually run at people, and the early references to Kanchelskis take me back!

5) Also seems like I'm not going to see his debut on Sunday, as he's not going to join up 'til mid September!

6) The fact it's taken this long means we can't register him for the Europa League yet.

Just a few points, don't know what anyone else thinks but at least it could open the floodgates a bit in terms of new arrivals.

Giles LArkman
20   Posted 25/08/2009 at 08:22:44

I saw this about our new signing. The write up is good and once the video fully streams... well, this boy could be something a bit special.

What do you think?

Chad Schofield
21   Posted 25/08/2009 at 07:00:49

So we have our first signing of the summer - everyone feeling better? Probably not 100%, but looks like we have a winger with a decent left peg according to the obligatory YouTube vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13wz-XwqT-g — let's just hope the second track isn't an omen of sorts!
Tommy Coleman
22   Posted 25/08/2009 at 08:46:11

This fella looks pretty good. Great feet, good vision and an eye for goal.

He's a left sided player so where will he play? Will Moyes dare to put Pienaar on the right and DROP Osman !?

A 5 man midfield could look like this : Bilyaletdinov, Fellaini, Rodwell, Arteta, Pienaar.

Very attack-minded but I doubt an option Moyes would rarely go for. Still, a good line-up all the same.

Ray Barnes
23   Posted 25/08/2009 at 08:54:04

After a top bit of YouTube Scouting® it would seem that Bilyaletdinov is primarily a left sided player, although he does seem to have 2 good feet. This would probably indicate Moyes plans to switch Pienaar to the right, which will certainly give the side a much better balance. It would also really prevent Hibbert getting as exposed as he does at right back. Here's hoping though we sign a new full back.
Andrew Magner
24   Posted 25/08/2009 at 07:36:09

I managed to watch the football in South Africa this summer and noticed what a revelation Pienaar was playing through the middle of the park. IMO he, not Kaka should of got the player of tournment. He linked play up, was a massive attacking threat, went past players with ease, covered masses of space on the pitch, switched play with ease, played in on the floor and found his targets and looked a right handfull against some of the top teams in the world!

Now we have a new left winger, could we slot Pienaar in the middle to give us more vreativity? Or will he be slotted to the right wing? Imagine a central midfield of Arteta & Pienaar backed up by Rodwell....... my mouth's watering already.

Chris Fisher
25   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:37:06

Really pleased with this signing! I think it was kept as quite as possible so that no other bastard started snopping around and putting his price up!! And I think it will mean moving Pienaar over to the right in place of Osman who will now be coming off the bench instead of starting games, I don't think Ossie is shit as some people say but I don't think he's good enough for our staring 11 when everyone's fit.

It will be amazing having 2 quality wide players who can both cross a ball and both hit a shot!!! Hopefully we’ll sign a right-back now a central defender and anouther midfielder so that Nev can drop back to right back and we’ll have a quality right and left side instead of a quality left side with a weak right side!!

Ray Burn
26   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:41:13

Apparantly Moyes is quoted as saying Bilyta...Bilitov...Bylati...this Russian fella has "a bit of Kevin Sheedy in him"!

Quite a claim.
Ciarán McGlone
27   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:51:38

It’s and interesting one - but ulitamately a strange one..

We need a playmaker and right winger - and we go an buy an attacking midfielder who can also play from the left...

If it was a prelude to buying a right winger and playing Billy in his prefered position behind the striker and in front of Arteta and Rodwell...then we’d be in great shape...

However I can’t see us buying a dedicated right winger or dropping Cahill and Fellaini to the bench..

Great to have signed a good player after all though...just not sure where it leaves our first eleven..
Kevin Hudson
28   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:58:46

I’ve watched Diniyar in the flesh many times,and I can’t believe the Paravozy are letting him go. My Muscovite family-in-law are equally amazed. Good player,still a lot to learn,but definitely has something about him.

Really chuffed !!
Ciarán McGlone
29   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:59:43

Kevin,

That’s a fair point that I would agree with it - He’s a very good player... I simply don’t know where he fits in..if he’s played on the left then he’s out of position...

Oh aye, and kudos on the Russian speaking... impressive.
Tony Marsh
30   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:00:01

I have just listened to a Russian sports journalist on Talk Sport radio
being interviewed about our new signing Bily.Egor wahts his name said and I quote,I doubt wether Bily as they call him here in Russia is strong enough to play in your Premier League.he is quick but lacks physical presence,also he doesnt like to track back and defend at all.

I have never heard of Bily before so who knows what we have signed ?

.
Steve Edwards
31   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:54:42

Is’nt it amazing how easy it is to sign a player when you’ve actually got some real money. There you have it, all the farting about for the last three months was quite simply Everton approaching clubs and trying to get players for nothing or next to nothing. One point does anybody know if this guy is 24 years old or 27 years old. I’d prefer it if he was 24. If he is 27 he’ll have little or no sell on value and I feel they are still hungry under 25 years.

Don’t worry about where Pinarr will play. He prefers central midfield and I think that it will prove to be his best position. Look what happened when Arteta was moved off the wing. I predict that Pinaar will be a revelation in the centre. Moyes may move him to the right where he would be just as comfortable as he was on the left so no problem there.

Big worry, we are still being linked with Silvain Distin. Anybody who witnessed the Portsmouth v Liverpool game last season will know why I’m worried.
David McKitt
32   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:07:39

Had a look at your video Giles.. Looks good.. and he can score a penalty!
Viv Sharma
33   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:08:37

Andrew magner, I was thinking the exact same thing. Pienaar was outstanding in the middle and that is something we are wholeheartedly lacking at the moment.
However I would be reluctant to break up his partnership with Baines though as all our decent play so far this year has come down the left, but is is nice to have the option.
Now all we need is a manager who is willing to be a bit creative/flexible with his selections...
Mike Davies
34   Posted 25/08/2009 at 13:51:13

Just heard some Russian bloke called ’Igor’, no surprise fucking there, on TalkSport just now who was providing a summary of our new player ’Bily’. He basically said the following: ’suprised we have gone for Bily as hes not strong enough for the EPL and isnt willing to track back - although he did say he was a good attacking midfielder’ - and that was that. To be honest the ruski chap didnt sound like he had a fucking clue what he was on about. My personal thoughts - I saw him with Russia in the Euros and he looked like the type of player we need; creative, fairly quick (hes not rapid!!), technically very good with an eye for goal, and just generally something alittle bit different to what we already have - we are far to predictable at the moment.

I really want this Benaga deal to happen - moyes could turn this guy into a proper world class player but got a feeling fat head benitez will be snifing now he know the kopites are shite again!!! Anyone know anything new about the Banega deal????
Gary Drain
35   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:17:15

I say good luck to him!! Looks like he will be a great signing. Though with the "Kevin Sheedy" quote, I remember a mate of mine saying the same about Kilbane!!

My mate is a bit of tool though!!
Neil Pearse
36   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:18:02

Remember also that Neville has played for Man Utd and indeed England at LB. So it’s not like we have no-one to play there if Baines is injured. (Of course then we would have Hibbert at RB....)
Erik Dols
37   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:20:09

Diniyar Bilyaletdinov will be like a whole new signing! - oh wait...
James Marshall
38   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:23:08

Nobody knows jack-shit about the Banega deal, least of all Valencia, or Banega!
Alan Clarke
39   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:29:19

Steve Edwards, if that’s the case why haven’t we signed a bloody centre half today? We’ve got one fit centre half now at the club.

It is really starting to worry me now that we could have to go until January with that defence. I imagine the board are worn out though after working so hard to get the best deal for Lescott and flying to Germany to sign a player who won’t play for us until mid-September.
Brian Baker
40   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:30:38

Bily is two footed, has played on either side as a wide midfielder or at full back, where he has also played. He also has played as a lone striker on occasion, so he is a model utility player. The perfect Moyes signing!
Mike Davies
41   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:35:25

Just found this while bored at work - not a great translation but cutting the crap it seems Valencia want De Guzman but need to off load Banega first. If Im right it also implies that Banega doesnt want to come to us!

’The Guzman must wait stands on departure Banega. Jonathan the Guzman in the emphatic interest of Valencia. That club want to attract is the Feyenoord-middenvelder however pace when it clarity about the departure of the Argentijn wild Boar Banega, reports Sportweek.

Banega would stand on the point on rent basis to verkassen to the English Everton. The Argentinean international sees that steps however do not sit. The middenvelder want to prove self by Valencia, after he came out the past season on rent basis for Atlético Madrid.

Valencia, that in financial problems is wrong, will should be able to strengthen get for it self with De Guzman first clarity of Banega. "On this moment is the viewpoint of Valencia that about it no budget is Jonathan to get", says Jan the Fisherman, affair observer of De Guzman. "Already can that naturally yet change, that know you never in the voetballerij."

Messages that the affair observer Tuesday to Valencia would travel the transfer to discuss, rest according to De Fisherman not on truth. The belangenbehartiger emphasizes in conversation with the weekly that the transitions of De Guzman anyhow ’yet long no gedane affair is’.

Next to Valencia, several clubs would have reported for De Guzman. The player sees a departure to these parties however do not sit, where the middenvelder are senses has gezet on a change to England or Spain’

Watch this space - and watch us fuck up the deal.

Russ Quinlan
42   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:21:52

Great news, but has anyone seen if peanuts has signed his contract extension yet ??
I hope
Keith Glazzard
43   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:34:32

Note for the next transfer window (and probably the rest of this one) -

If you heard it here first, it isn’t going to happen. Same applies to the Daily Mail, Sky ’news’ and most of the rest of the media.

As for the ’he can’t tackle’ pronouncement - reminds me of the Rangers supporter I knew whose judgment was "lightweight" when acquired Arteta.
Mike Davies
44   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:40:15

oh and if anyone can do a better job with the translation, the link is:

http://www.europesoccer.nl/nieuws.php?artikel=773
Kevin Hudson
45   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:46:22

Mike Davies, I presume the link you want translating is in Spanish,and I can do it,but I clicked on it---and It’s PORN !!!!
Kevin Hudson
46   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:48:05

Nude black college girls !!!!!!!!

Tried it twice now mate !! Ain’t working.
James Marshall
47   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:51:55

If only I wasn’t at work......

Here’s a worksafe link with a bit of ’Billy’ info...not great but something.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/Diniyar-Bilyaletdinov-10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-Everton-signing-article129989.html
Scott Cattaneo
48   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:55:40

Kevin
I’ve tried the link and the bastard thing does work on mine!
Dave Roberts
49   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:47:19

Mike,

Sorry mate but our cat could make a better translation! And he’s Manx!

I have always said that what we really need is a Middenvelder holding onner but we have nowhere to go for the transfer to discuss and about it no budget to get. Besides, I don’t like the idea of Banega coming on a rent basis...we’ve just got rid of one rent boy...we don’t want anymore!
Mike Davies
50   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:55:14

Sorry Kevin - that must have been the other site I was visiting while bored at work!!!!!

No idea whats going on there - if you want to go to the right content go to www.europesoccer.nl/ and see the link to: De Guzman dicht bij transfer naar Valencia @ 9:53

Hope I didnt get you in shite at work pal??
Steve Edwards
51   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:56:23

Alan Clarke - I think the problem there is that teams know that we are desperate for a centre back and Moyes has hinted on as much. We may have a few bob now but you don’t want to be ripped off. Just be careful what you wish for, you may get Silvain Distin. I’d sooner stick with Pip than an over the hill yard dog like him. He looked like a jibbering reck after Torres had finished with him last season.
Erik Dols
52   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:07:39

Well, it doesn’t say Banega doesn’t want to come to us as such. It says he wants to fight for his place at Valencia. Which is slightly different in my perspective. It is not like he is holding out for another club, he just doesn’t want to leave his current one, an attitude that I actually like.
Peter Griffin
53   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:08:33

From the OS:

David Moyes has revealed the capture of Diniyar Bilyaletdinov was the result of an extended pursuit.

The Everton boss admitted he first tried to sign the 24-year-old Russian international in January.

Bilyaletdinov became Everton’s second major capture of the summer on Tuesday, joining from Lokomotiv Moscow for an undisclosed fee.

And Moyes, who compared the versatile left-sided player to 1980s Everton hero Kevin Sheedy, is excited by his latest acquistion.

“He’s a player who I have admired for a while now," the Blues boss told evertonfc.com. "I wanted to bring him to Everton in January but it just never worked out.

“He’s a left-sided player and he’s actually got a bit of Kevin Sheedy about him. He can also play on the right and can fill several roles in the team. (Russia coach) Guus Hiddink has even used him as an emergency left-back in the past.”

Bilyaletdinov follows on-loan Manchester City striker Jo into Goodison Park but Moyes remains hopeful of making further additions before the August 31 transfer deadline.

A star for his national side at last summer’s European Championships, the Blues boss says his newest signing will give Everton valuable added options in attack.

“He’s another young international player that we’ve brought in and he’s capable of creating goals and scoring goals," he said. "We’re looking forward to working with him.”

Bilyaletdinov will be ineligible for Thursday’s Europa League play-off second leg with Sigma Olomouc and he’s also unlikely to feature against Wigan at the weekend.

Russia are in the UK for a match against Wales in early September and the player is expected to meet his new teammates ahead of the Blues’ game against Fulham on 13 September.

Berry McWilliam
54   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:07:22

So is Billy’s inelgibility for the europa match this week due to the fact that he hasnt yet got a vias or is it because hes cup tied?? I saw lokomotiv came in 7th last seaon which as far as i can tell means that they didnt qualify for europa...
James Marshall
55   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:08:43

My money is on Robert Huth - I could be wrong obviously, but I’ll lay money we sign a centre half before the transfer window closes.

Everyone just needs to stop panicking - its a bloody good job none of Toffeeweb regulars run Everton; we’d be closer to the Conference by now!
James Marshall
56   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:10:28

Berry - he’s not cup tied, just ineligible as his registration isn’t being sorted out in time.

The kids also gonna be knackered as the Russian season has been going since March.
Erik Dols
57   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:10:30

I just read a rumour about Agent Marshall who’s trying to get us relegated to the Conference!!1 Please tell me this isn’t true!!!!!!
Peter Griffin
58   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:11:23

James- Well said. It’s a pain in the arse players weren’t brought in a month ago, but more new arrivals will be in before the window closes.

As I’ve said before until the current regime is changed these kind of shenanigans will continue.
Robert Davis
59   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:05:01

Bilyaletdinov may adapt (they said Arsharvin would not cope here) so give him a chance.Also Bilyaletdinov and Banega (read about his "online " ball playing) are good passers.No long ball anymore? Bilyaletdinov is not really a winger more a forward midfielder.
Alan Clarke
60   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:16:29

Griff, I’m speaking with my ’source’ tomorrow who will have spoken with her ’source’ this evening. I am hopeful of obtaining some info on medicals and incoming players. Do you have any information that I can corroborate tomorrow? It seems you were right about Steven Taylor. He was definitely booked in for a medical last week but whether he attended or not I’m not sure.
Callum Greenall
61   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:22:27

i recall a few people moaning that we wouldn’t sign anybody.
Am happy to see the lad is very excited after watching his interview, all the best to him.
Patty Beesley
62   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:19:37

What worries me is what are we going to sing when we chant his name for getting his first goal. His name is a bit of a mouthful especially for Scouse accents !!!
Dave Roberts
63   Posted 25/08/2009 at 14:59:39

First 2 paragraphs are;

J de G is the subject of strong interest from Valencia. The club, however, while considering J de G an attractive acquisition are awaiting clarification regarding the future of Argentine Ever Banega according to Sportsweek.

Banega was on the point of moving to British club Everton on a loan deal but the Argentine international would consider this a step down ( Cheeky twat! ....my words) The midfielder wants to prove himself at Valencia after spending last season on loan to Atletico Madrid.

The rest is about J de G and how Valencia do not have a transfer budget to make an offer. Seems like they want to sell Banega now to raise the money rather than loan him out (although it doesn’t actually say that in so many words it can be reasonably implied) Either way, it sounds like he doesn’t want to come to us. Surely if he had been any good Atletico would have put in an offer...or are they skint too?
Peter Griffin
64   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:21:02

Alan as i said before I was told originally there would be several medicals which later changed to one. Who? I honestly don’t know.

I haven’t been told much this week except NUFC were dragging their heels over Steven Taylor, due to a potential new owner wanting to hang on to him and sell others instead. I was told this morning we were in the driving seat to sign Distin and that Villa were trying to negotiate a deal for Warnock and were not as keen on Distin as suggested. However this afternoon I’ve been told Villa now want both players. Huth is also an option being considered, but apparently DM isn’t keen to pay £5million+ for Senderos when he has less than 12 months on his current deal and is clearly out of favour.
Ciarán McGlone
65   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:43:36

As I said on the other thread..John Mensa is the centre half we need...Not Distin.
Bradley Nolan
66   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:46:05

Does he have the longest 2nd name in the Premier League ?
(taking over from Pavliachenko)
It’s all an evil scheme by that Kenwright, trying to profiteer from the letters on the back of the shirts (he’s a cunning so & so).
Peter Griffin
67   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:52:29

Ciarán- Maybe if we miss out on Distin to Villa, Mensah on loan could be an option. It will come down to whether DM rates him and availability I suppose.
Scott Cattaneo
68   Posted 25/08/2009 at 15:56:08

Still quite hopeful on the Steve Taylor signing. Just heard Sky Sports interview Chris Hughton and pose the direct question on Taylor’s move to Everton.
He was very non-commital and said he has him in the squad for the CC game, he hopes to have the same squad intact at the close of the transfer window, if this situation changes he is sure he will be informed by the powers that be.. (not verbatim but along those lines).

Optomistic to read much into it I know, but it was far from a rebuke.

As a side issue - I would like to see this lad Seamus Coleman given a chance against Sigma - surely it can only improve the current back 4?
Tom Campbell
69   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:16:41

Ciaran is he a left mid or a center mid?
Nick Xenos
70   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:16:26

I can’t believe some on here...pessimists to the nth degree!!
Tony Marsh "...doubt wether Bily as they call him here in Russia is strong enough to play in your Premier League.he is quick but lacks physical presence,also he doesnt like to track back and defend at all. " I’m sure many people were saying the same thing when Pienaar joined us. Besides, he is a winger...how much ’physical presence’ does he require. Does Ashley Young have physical presence? Does Giggs have physical presence? On him tracking back, i’m sure Moyes will work on this as he has done successfullly with Arteta and Pienaar.
Alan Clarke said "..sign a player who won’t play for us until mid-September." He is going to miss one EPL game and then we have the International break. Hardly a disaster you make it out to be!
Peter Griffin
71   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:25:20

Scott- Coleman is still injured.
Brian Lawlor
72   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:23:20

Mensah is joining Sunderland on loan.
Besides he’s only played 12 games for Lyon, has 4 years left on his contract and is a massive unkown quantity. Another Alex Nyarko me thinks. On top of that we can’t afford to sign another player who will be missing for up to 6 weeks to go to the African Nations Cup.

Distin is an established premier league player who can also play left back and at 31 for a centre half is in his best years now.
Lionel Luthor
73   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:17:37

I don’t know much about our new comrade, but given the fact he’s a Russian international and seems to know what passing a football means, I’m really pleased we’ve signed him. (and how very efficiently too!)

Hopefully we might find him and Pienaar switching wings during games.

The centre back scenario seems a little odd if we are indeed after Distin. While i don’t think he’s quite the yard dog Torres made him look, the fact that he’s 32 and would reportedly cost around £5m seems an odd choice. Why not take a punt on Senderos who at least is younger. How old is Huth?

Also, this Banega debacle needs sorting one way or another. If he’s not interested as has been mentioned, then forget it and look elsewhere. Let’s not be chasing after him right up until the window closes only to find last minute it falls apart.

Finally, does anyone have any updates on what Judith Charmers (aka Rasmus Elm) is up to? Has he actually signed for anyone? Surely he’s not STILL deliberating who is worthy of his services?
Ste Boyle
74   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:34:49

You’ve all missed the point. Moyes stated in his press conference.
"He’s even been used as an emergency left back"
No doubt he’ll be there for us in his first game with Baines switching to centre midfield or something equally as banana’s from the Moyes school of tactics
Elgin Joshua
75   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:41:19

Sorry guys, but since this is Everton, what are the odds of him getting his arm dislocated during the 2 intl games ?

I’ll wager a fiver on that.
Elgin Joshua
76   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:41:19

Sorry guys, but since this is Everton, what are the odds of him getting his arm dislocated during the 2 intl games ?

I’ll wager a fiver on that.
Alec Laurie
77   Posted 25/08/2009 at 17:07:12

SSN are linking us with Hangeland...

I know it doesn’t mean much - who haven’t we been "linked" to?

But if that one were true it’d be a fantastic buy
Albert Dock
78   Posted 25/08/2009 at 17:08:33

I’m confused.

How can he be a left footer with a name like Billy?
Jason Broome
79   Posted 25/08/2009 at 17:13:37

The Russian league is on par with the Scottish Premier League, so excuse me for not punching the air. Happy that we have signed someone but not expecting too much too soon.

I’m holding my breath for Banega. As far as I’m concerned he is the ‘big one.’
Good news is that once Arteta gets back he will most likely resume his role in the middle. Hopefully alongside Banega!
Aidy Dews
80   Posted 25/08/2009 at 16:49:47

Bilyaletdinov is a very good player, rated one of the brightest talents in Russian football after Arshavin, and showed some real promise in the Euros last year, he’s a central attacking midfielder who can play left wing and can also play right side and also fill in at left back if really needed.

He’s a tall athletic player with good pace who’s good on the ball, got an eye for a pass, score’s a few goals and is good from set pieces. He is a bit on the slight, skinny side but don't be fooled, he isn't no lightweight, he’s got a bit of strength to him and he is going to make a difference to our midfield now and in the years to come.

He’s a very technically gifted player who will work well with the likes of Pienaar, Arteta, Fellaini, Cahill, Jo, Saha, Yakubu and maybe Banega if we sign him. With the likes of Arteta, Pienaar, Bilyaletdinov, Fellaini and maybe Banega in are midfield, there is no need to bypass it and play hoofball!.

It's important we make the right signings with regards to centre-backs and I'd be happy with one of either Gary Cahill, Wheater, Huth, Taylor or Shawcross at the right price and then possible Distin as he would provide cover at left back too.

Kevin Hudson
81   Posted 25/08/2009 at 17:29:37

Love the way Sky Sports News are mispronouncing his name. They’re supposed to be journalists ffs...
Rob Heib
82   Posted 25/08/2009 at 17:43:42

Arshavin: Zenit St. Petersburg 238 (51) 21%

Bilyaletdinov: Lokomotiv Moscow 185 (38) 20.5%



I’m not saying he’s as good as Arshavin; merely that if we’re going to dismiss the Russian league as being poor (so his playing experience isn’t worth as much) well it certainly doesn’t seem to have harmed Arshavin’s adaptation to the Prem.

Also, while the defending may not be Prem level, neither is the supply or the passing. It’s not as simple as putting a great player in a bad league and watch them score 200 goals -- if nobody can supply them anything then even the best player is somewhat limited.

You never know but I don’t think the league he comes from is more or less cause for alarm than the fact Banega is (perhaps) available. A guy who can’t make a go of it in a good league or a guy who does well in a poorer league -- not sure why one is more prized over the other as both have question marks.
Dean Peamum
83   Posted 25/08/2009 at 10:51:02

I've thought of a song to make our new signing feel welcome.

Give us a B (B)
give us an I (I)
give us an L (L)
give us a Y (Y)
etc, etc

Take your time singing it, don't be Russian it like a locomotive.

Moscow, all the best. COYB

Nick Marsh
84   Posted 25/08/2009 at 18:44:45

A left winger from Russia. thought they were all right wing over there!!!
Steve Edwards
85   Posted 25/08/2009 at 19:19:12

I hope its Hangeland, he’s a top centre back and the right age. If he came in you wouldn’t miss that twat Lescott. I’d be quite happy to part with a lot of money for him. It would be better than wasting money on the likes of Senderos or Distin. Please, please, please Mr Moyes go and get Hangeland and stop fuckin around.
Mike Davies
86   Posted 25/08/2009 at 19:30:39

doesnt look like Banegas coming. Valencia will take the money all day long!!

Shite translation again but you get the idea.

’The Stuttgart offers 9 million by Banega The Valencia studies the offering by the Argentine midfield
player.

The future of Éver Banega in the Valencia seemed clear after so much the player as the coach Unai Emery they were declared mutual love, but the doubts after a good offering presented by the Stuttgart have appeared again to be done with the services of the Argentine midfield player.

The German assembly has offered nine million euro to the Valencia in exchange for Ever Banega. The ché paid 18 million by the Argentine two years ago, but the economic situation of the Valencian club does that itself be not seen with bad eyes this offering.

Emery and Fernando Gómez, sports director of the Valencia, they have met this Tuesday to value the situation and the technician has repeated its intention to include the player. In the next days the ché will give an offering to the Stuttgart.’

Fucking pissed about this, big time - like Jason said, this is the player we really wanted in our side!!!
Mike Davies
87   Posted 25/08/2009 at 19:33:16

link if anyones interested:

http://www.goal.com/es/news/21/fichajes/2009/08/25/1460942/mercado-el-stuttgart-ofrece-9-millones-por-banega
Nick Entwistle
88   Posted 25/08/2009 at 19:32:14

Nick, the Commies are lefties, otherwise they’d have been right in their with Hitler.
Well they were thinking about it but then Stalin was a bit of an opportunist.

History lesson over kids.
Nick Marsh
89   Posted 25/08/2009 at 20:12:58

"Nick, the Commies are lefties, otherwise
Well they were thinking about it but then Stalin was a bit of an opportunist.

History lesson over kids."


Ha ha ha.... I have told the joke all wrong. I feel a tit.

But to make myself feel better may I just say that you should have written... "they’d have been right in there with Hitler" . instead of their!

English lesson over with now and can I say how pleased I am with our new player.

Trevor Williams
90   Posted 25/08/2009 at 20:52:06

We will make a fortune just on having his name printed on the fans shirts!

What a marketing geniuses we are! lol.
Sshaun Parker
91   Posted 25/08/2009 at 18:37:12

Just been watching our new Russian boy on YouTube, may I congratulate David Moyes on bringing this lad to Goodison, he looks pure class. I have been drooling at the goals he has scored and he has a great touch also. If this lad can settle he will be the best player we have had for a long long time.

Lescott... who was he then!!!

Lee McIntosh
92   Posted 25/08/2009 at 22:26:18

Watch the kids footwork, and then compare it Giggs 10 years ago... Impressive comparison!

Not sure he’s quite as quick, but with the right tutoring this guy will a be hard work for any right-back/centre-half!
Anthony Doran
93   Posted 25/08/2009 at 23:13:15

Nice to see us sign a player at last; I haven't heard of him before though but he may give us some width with Pienaar moving to the right who will in turn cover as well attack that side of the pitch in which we are completely knackered at present. Lescott has dug and left a hole in our defence, whatever we get for him doesn't address this HOLE! Defender of quality next please Moyes and throw in more of Rodwell for some good measure please!
Chris Leyland
94   Posted 25/08/2009 at 23:35:32

Direct quote from the new Russian fella "I know about Everton’s players and I know Jo from when he played in the Russian league. I also know that Andrei Kanchelskis played for Everton. Andrei is a hero for all people in Russia so I am very happy to know that he has played for a club like Everton. I have not spoken to my Russian teammates yet but when I next go to the national training camp I will speak with Arshavin, Zhirkov and Pavlyuchenko about what it is like in the Premier League. I can’t wait to get going"

Shit — that’s us fucked. Once he speaks to those other Ruskies, they will be laughing their cocks off that he has signed for us and he may well not turn up.
David Johnson
95   Posted 26/08/2009 at 02:31:06

Piennar and Baines seem to have created an understanding together down the left so I can understand those who say our need is on the right, where honest Leon and Hibbo hardly set the world alight (good squad players). Am I right in thinking Piennar has played on the right for South Africa?
Marcus Choo
96   Posted 26/08/2009 at 00:39:23

Well, Bilyaletdinov has signed for us. I don't think anyone of us picked him up as a potential signing until maybe two weeks ago when the Lescott deal seemed imminent. What I'd like to raise as a question is why this fellow didn't turn up on our radar until rather recently. This speaks to me about either two possibilities in the way Moyes conducts transfers:

(1) He is not as dedicated as we think in the way he plans his transfer list... e.g. "right, we've got £22M in the bank now, let's see who we can buy with it... hmm, we need a winger. OK Mr Lokomotiv Moscow, how much for your international winger? £10M? Fine, we'll take him..."

or...

(2) He's a cunning fox who has a REAL transfer list of targets which none of the local papers/rumour mills really pick up. And he keeps it so secret that others don't beat us to the punch ala Naughton...

What I see is that Everton Football Club CAN complete transfers within a relatively short frame of time considering when the media actually pick up a sniff of these deals... but is this an indication of Moyes's clever ability to keep his REAL transfer targets under wraps? Or is it just a desperation signing stemming from the fact that we now have money.

One other thing to consider is that Bilyaletdinov is a winger. Were there any other wingers that we were being linked with in the past? How about Elm? If he really did come to Goodison for a tour and he himself apparently expressed some positivity towards our club, why didn't we sign him with the £22M from the Lescott deal? For those who say we will do so in the next few days, then I'd raise the question why Bilyaletdinov could be signed in two weeks (on top of that, requiring a work permit!) but we can't do the same for a young Swede who seems to have less problems in signing for us.

What I see is that all the potential transfer targets being bandied about earlier in the season... rarely if ever come true! (I concede Naughton as an exception, but consider the cases of Cana, Elm, Moutinho, Defour, Delph, Downing etc). I mentioned before that Moyes' transfers are usually "unexpected" or "out of the blue"...

So, is Moyes a genius or a duff on the transfer market?

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