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There’s an article on Superdeporte.es, Valencia’s equivalent of Marca, on Banega:
In summary, Stuttgart had bid 7 million euros for him, roughly 6 million pounds and Valencia were happy to accept the bid, but the player didn’t want to go to Stuttgart.
Whether he’d want to come to us, it doesn’t say, but it does say that Valencia aren’t likely to loan him out even though they probably would have been willing to do so earlier in the summer. He’s had a good pre-season and the Valencia coach, Emery, is planning on using him. Which is not to say the club wouldn’t sell him if they could though.
Another thing is that both Baraja and Fernandes are out injured at the moment, so Banega’s the only senior midfield playmaker they have (there’s another player, Nacho González, but they don’t seem to think too much of him).
Valencia aren’t so desperate for money as they were as they’re now having a 100 million euro rights issue – they’ll still have plenty of debt, but they’ll have more breathing space.
Basically, if we want him we’re going to have to buy him by the looks of things – but then 7 million euros isn’t so much money when you’ve got 22 million pounds burning a hole in your pocket…
Greg Hunt, Posted 26/08/2009 at 05:45:11
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Andy Macrae
2 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:22:28
2 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:22:28
Surely we must have had around £10 million to spend before the Lescott sale.
So, that should still leave the £24 million available for 2 centre backs, 1 right back, 1 left back & a centre mid who can actually pass the ball. Hopefully all that isnt asking too much!!!
Hell, lets throw in a right winger while im at it :D
So, that should still leave the £24 million available for 2 centre backs, 1 right back, 1 left back & a centre mid who can actually pass the ball. Hopefully all that isnt asking too much!!!
Hell, lets throw in a right winger while im at it :D
Alan Clarke
3 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:25:53
3 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:25:53
I thought we’d agreed £9 million at the end of next season for the defiler? So more than Stuttgart are offering.
I hope Moyes isn’t throwing all his eggs into one basket with this one and has other options lined up. The longer deals are dragged out with Everton, the less likely it is the deal will happen.
I hope Moyes isn’t throwing all his eggs into one basket with this one and has other options lined up. The longer deals are dragged out with Everton, the less likely it is the deal will happen.
Brian Lawlor
4 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:29:23
4 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:29:23
We earned £4 million in prize money for the FA Cup run plus the millions in TV rights money.
However, I’m sure we won’t spend more than another £10 million totalling £19 million spend.
So around £5 million from the Lescott deal, the FA cup money and TV money all goes missing - service debt and to the Kirkby pot.
However, I’m sure we won’t spend more than another £10 million totalling £19 million spend.
So around £5 million from the Lescott deal, the FA cup money and TV money all goes missing - service debt and to the Kirkby pot.
Neal Sutherland
5 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:27:22
5 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:27:22
Exactly Andy, if we were bidding for Naughton and reportedly Delph then we had at least 10 million to spend before the deal for THAT centre back went through. That’s gone on Bilyaletdinov and leaves the bulk fee to spend.
However, he’s going to play on the left, leaving Pienaar to be our right sided player. Or, even swap them over. Either way...the width is sorted.
Central midfield should be wrapped up now, either they let Banega come or Valencia can sod off (surely their actions have been at the very least a tad on the odd side!?) and we move on.
That would free up Neville from the centre, and him and Hibs can fight over right back......leaving one other position we really need sorted...LEFT BACK. We have no cover for Baines now, bar maybe Seamus Coleman who I assume is a bit of a way off being ready.
However, he’s going to play on the left, leaving Pienaar to be our right sided player. Or, even swap them over. Either way...the width is sorted.
Central midfield should be wrapped up now, either they let Banega come or Valencia can sod off (surely their actions have been at the very least a tad on the odd side!?) and we move on.
That would free up Neville from the centre, and him and Hibs can fight over right back......leaving one other position we really need sorted...LEFT BACK. We have no cover for Baines now, bar maybe Seamus Coleman who I assume is a bit of a way off being ready.
Guy Hastings
6 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:48:09
6 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:48:09
What I can’t understand is how we, or anyone else for that matter, can apply for a work permit for a player without having the relevant documents, ie passport etc. If we’ve got them then we surely have his tacit approval.
Anthony Millington
7 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:50:45
7 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:50:45
Stop panicking, Moyes said he’s hoping to see him in the next few days.
Dave Whitwell
8 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:03:27
8 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:03:27
Anthony, Moyes’s 48hrs is 1 week, so next few days must be around 10 days — which is two late for us!
Alan Clarke
9 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:03:35
9 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:03:35
Where I come from Anthony, "few" means 3. It is now 4 days since Moyes said "few" and there’s no sign of him.
Ciarán McGlone
10 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:05:24
10 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:05:24
Why are people adding up all our phantom bids..add it all up at the end of the window - THAT’S HOW MUCH WE HAD TO SPEND!
Steve Edwards
11 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:05:07
11 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:05:07
I’ll be surprised now if we get Banega, its got all the hallmarks of a dead duck. I think now Valencia are looking for money and it depends on how much Moyes really wants him. Don’t forget his bad boy reputation although some believe he’s just a bit thick. Moyes would be taking a chance on him and taking him on loan would have been a no brainer. My feeling now is that it won’t happen.
Peter Bourke
12 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:17:05
12 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:17:05
Lyndon.
Billy the Kid will play on the left so Peanuts will play the central role...after all thats he’s natural position and he killed them in the AFCON when playing for the Banana Banana.
Billy the Kid will play on the left so Peanuts will play the central role...after all thats he’s natural position and he killed them in the AFCON when playing for the Banana Banana.
Neal Sutherland
13 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:30:45
13 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:30:45
’Phantom bids’ Ciaran? Pray tell who were our confirmed ’phantom’ or ’fake’ bids? Also how do you categorically know they were ’phantom’ or ’fake’ bids? Naughton certainly wasn’t. Arsenal confirmed the Senderos talks.
Ciarán McGlone
14 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:39:25
14 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:39:25
Naughton, Defour and Elm.
A phantom bid is one which does not deliver a player, Neil.
Peter Bourke, I hope to hell youre not right — that would mean Osman still on the right and Cahill and Fellaini playing in the middle... cosmic.
A phantom bid is one which does not deliver a player, Neil.
Peter Bourke, I hope to hell youre not right — that would mean Osman still on the right and Cahill and Fellaini playing in the middle... cosmic.
Neal Sutherland
15 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:42:41
15 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:42:41
Bids not accepted by a club, or a bid that is less that the winning bid from another interested club do not deliver the player.
Sheffield United confirmed the Naughton bid. Defour was all paper and agent talk. And Elm had a tour of Finch Farm, but has admitted he’s plumping for AZ as they’ll bring more first team football.
Phantom or fake bids are actually delusional paranoia only particular to certain Evertonians, who usually frequent other message boards.
Sheffield United confirmed the Naughton bid. Defour was all paper and agent talk. And Elm had a tour of Finch Farm, but has admitted he’s plumping for AZ as they’ll bring more first team football.
Phantom or fake bids are actually delusional paranoia only particular to certain Evertonians, who usually frequent other message boards.
Brian Lawlor
16 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:53:13
16 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:53:13
"Phantom" - means a figment of the imagination. In order words the bids never happened.
Naughton and Elm were both official bids. In fact Sheff Utd had initially accepted the bid. They never signed but they were bid for.
A phantom fan - one who never goes to Goodison
Naughton and Elm were both official bids. In fact Sheff Utd had initially accepted the bid. They never signed but they were bid for.
A phantom fan - one who never goes to Goodison
Phil Bellis
17 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:49:58
17 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:49:58
Ciarán
’Phantom bid’
One that hasn’t a ghost of a chance of success
cf. EFC, Shearer, Owen et al
’Phantom bid’
One that hasn’t a ghost of a chance of success
cf. EFC, Shearer, Owen et al
Ciarán McGlone
18 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:59:50
18 Posted 26/08/2009 at 11:59:50
3 different meanings then....
I think ...’ a bid which fails to deliver a player’ covers all 3 circustances.
I think ...’ a bid which fails to deliver a player’ covers all 3 circustances.
Stan Sheppard
19 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:06:42
19 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:06:42
hahaha......
come on guys.
I think Ciaran has a point though. We have been a disaster in the transfer market at times. Lets hope it comes together over the next few days.
come on guys.
I think Ciaran has a point though. We have been a disaster in the transfer market at times. Lets hope it comes together over the next few days.
Neal Sutherland
20 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:12:11
20 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:12:11
No Ciaran, my 2 circumstances are when we actually bid.
Phantom bids are when people read it in the BBC’s or another gossip column, believe it to be true, and then get annoyed we don’t get the player despite the fact it ws all nonsense and we never actually bid in the first place.
Some important points...interest in a player does not equal a bid; and Agents tend to lie, to drum up other interest.
Phantom bids are when people read it in the BBC’s or another gossip column, believe it to be true, and then get annoyed we don’t get the player despite the fact it ws all nonsense and we never actually bid in the first place.
Some important points...interest in a player does not equal a bid; and Agents tend to lie, to drum up other interest.
Benn Chambers
21 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:20:08
21 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:20:08
Woh Woh Woh Woh!
Lyndon, we signed Bily with money we already had. Moyes had money without the Lescott sale, may not have been a lot but it was enough for Bily surely, especially when he admitted bidding for Delph and Naughton, combined your looked at just over £10m.
By my reckoning, the Lescott money remains untouched! £24m of it! Less £5m for Distin it looks like and maybe the same or a bit more for his defensive partner and we still have a hefty some left for a midfielder.
Am I wrong people???
Lyndon, we signed Bily with money we already had. Moyes had money without the Lescott sale, may not have been a lot but it was enough for Bily surely, especially when he admitted bidding for Delph and Naughton, combined your looked at just over £10m.
By my reckoning, the Lescott money remains untouched! £24m of it! Less £5m for Distin it looks like and maybe the same or a bit more for his defensive partner and we still have a hefty some left for a midfielder.
Am I wrong people???
Brian Lawlor
22 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:27:20
22 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:27:20
I think someone needs to read a thesaurus.
I think the word is "unsucessful" bids as opposed to "phantom".
I think the word is "unsucessful" bids as opposed to "phantom".
Anthony Doran
23 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:29:46
23 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:29:46
Not again Ciarán FFS is there anyone you agree with on this site? What irritating posts you make, agrue for the sake of agruing.
This Banega looks like an unpolished diamond that we might be better steering clear of, why on earth we aint chasing Fernandes is beyong me? How badly is he injured?
This Banega looks like an unpolished diamond that we might be better steering clear of, why on earth we aint chasing Fernandes is beyong me? How badly is he injured?
Gareth Humphreys
24 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:42:43
24 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:42:43
To be fair, we could blow the lot on Messi to replace Osman but Ciarán would still not be happy as Hibbert would still be getting a game.
Some people are just never happy.
Some people are just never happy.
Fran Mitchell
25 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:51:59
25 Posted 26/08/2009 at 12:51:59
"By my reckoning, the Lescott money remains untouched!"
By my reckoning, Everton should have lots of money, I mean, £3.5mil net spends in the Premier League with Sky money. We must have had millions come in that were not used on the transfer market.
BUT this is everton, this is Bill Kenwright. You honestly believe that because we bid for Naughton and Delph we have money to burn? That money was lined up from somewhere, and the Lescott money will not all go on transfers. Don’t get what you wish mixed up with the truth, you’ll only be hurt in the long run.
Gareth Humphreys: what is there to be happpy about at the moment? We have signed 1 player (who won't play for 3 weeks) and are linked with 1 other, and Moyes says he wants 4 total. (i.e. i will never be able to get more than 4 players)
So people with aspirations of 2 centre backs, a right back, a sub left back, a right winger and a defensive mid (6 more players... are you serious?) are delusional. It's not being negative, I’m quite excited about the Russian bloke, but thats it.
Also, phantom bids were bids like the Shearer, Cole, Collymore, Owen bids of the past... formal bids made to appease the fans without intending to actually spend anything.
Naughton wasn’t a phantom bid, but we didn’t get him and that does not mean that the money we bid for him will be added to the Lescott money. (We intended to spend the money on Naughton over 5 years, so infact it was probably about £500k that we had to spend, not £6million; probably the same with Delph.)
By my reckoning, Everton should have lots of money, I mean, £3.5mil net spends in the Premier League with Sky money. We must have had millions come in that were not used on the transfer market.
BUT this is everton, this is Bill Kenwright. You honestly believe that because we bid for Naughton and Delph we have money to burn? That money was lined up from somewhere, and the Lescott money will not all go on transfers. Don’t get what you wish mixed up with the truth, you’ll only be hurt in the long run.
Gareth Humphreys: what is there to be happpy about at the moment? We have signed 1 player (who won't play for 3 weeks) and are linked with 1 other, and Moyes says he wants 4 total. (i.e. i will never be able to get more than 4 players)
So people with aspirations of 2 centre backs, a right back, a sub left back, a right winger and a defensive mid (6 more players... are you serious?) are delusional. It's not being negative, I’m quite excited about the Russian bloke, but thats it.
Also, phantom bids were bids like the Shearer, Cole, Collymore, Owen bids of the past... formal bids made to appease the fans without intending to actually spend anything.
Naughton wasn’t a phantom bid, but we didn’t get him and that does not mean that the money we bid for him will be added to the Lescott money. (We intended to spend the money on Naughton over 5 years, so infact it was probably about £500k that we had to spend, not £6million; probably the same with Delph.)
Sean McNally
26 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:08:35
26 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:08:35
I’d spend the money on Defour.
And get Chimbonda on loan
And get Chimbonda on loan
Alan Clarke
27 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:06:53
27 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:06:53
Gareth, Messi is too lightweight!
Ciaran, is there a thread on here that you don’t turn into an argument? We’re all frustrated about Everton at the moment but I think you need some kind of therapy.
Ciaran, is there a thread on here that you don’t turn into an argument? We’re all frustrated about Everton at the moment but I think you need some kind of therapy.
Franny Porter
28 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:05:42
28 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:05:42
Hey Brian, have you ever seen the Star Wars film ’The Unsuccessful Menace’.
On another note, Football Manager time as I'm bored!
1. Robert Huth £5m centre back
2. Steven Taylor £6m centre back
3. Manuel Fernandes £5m centre mid
4. Gareth Bale £6m full back/left mid cover
I know Fernandes is not the tough tackling midfielder we are all crying out for but he’s gotta be an improvement hey?
PS: Neville at RB, Cahill behind the striker, Billy on the left Peanuts on the right, Fellaini and Jo on the bench and Hibbert and Osman in the bin!
On another note, Football Manager time as I'm bored!
1. Robert Huth £5m centre back
2. Steven Taylor £6m centre back
3. Manuel Fernandes £5m centre mid
4. Gareth Bale £6m full back/left mid cover
I know Fernandes is not the tough tackling midfielder we are all crying out for but he’s gotta be an improvement hey?
PS: Neville at RB, Cahill behind the striker, Billy on the left Peanuts on the right, Fellaini and Jo on the bench and Hibbert and Osman in the bin!
Sean McNally
29 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:19:07
29 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:19:07
Chimbonda's gone to Blackburn.
Sky Sports have just announced that Distin will choose us over Villa. Dunno what to think about him???? He’s too much like Yobo.
Sky Sports have just announced that Distin will choose us over Villa. Dunno what to think about him???? He’s too much like Yobo.
Phil Bellis
30 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:15:57
30 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:15:57
Thank you Fran, that’s exactly my point re phantom bids: sops for sheep
As for Moysey getting all available cash...’Bobby, here’s another £15 million, nip down the NatWest and stick it in the (shhh), k-i-r account’
Ciarán would cause a nark in a chapel of rest
As for Moysey getting all available cash...’Bobby, here’s another £15 million, nip down the NatWest and stick it in the (shhh), k-i-r account’
Ciarán would cause a nark in a chapel of rest
Kev Clark
31 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:13:57
31 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:13:57
Just to add something to this pot... How do you know we actually have the money from Lescott? Think about it in our own life, you buy something on your card or with a cheque, when does the money actually leave your account and arrive in the other shops? All the bank does is authorise that the buyer HAS the money, we might not actually have it available to spend til the end of the week.
Is City’s money even in a UK bank? A Middle Eastern Bank? They have different opening hours to us, I think I’ve heard that Thursday’s and Fridays all busineeses are closed out there??
Is City’s money even in a UK bank? A Middle Eastern Bank? They have different opening hours to us, I think I’ve heard that Thursday’s and Fridays all busineeses are closed out there??
Iain Love
32 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:16:14
32 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:16:14
Banega appears to be a playmaker in the Arteta mould, Pienaar can do that job now we have cover on the left with Billy the Kidski. So I’m not bothered about Eveready.
What I would like to see is a centre-mid enforcer who is comfortable with the ball; Veira would fit the bill if we could get his wages down and he could be young Jack's mentor 'til he’s ready for that role.
Ciarán McGlone
33 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:39:16
33 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:39:16
In my opinion...a phantom bid relates to the intention..not the actual bid..
Alan Clarke,
Don’t be such a fuckin hypocrite...You’re all over most threads screaming like a child.
Alan Clarke,
Don’t be such a fuckin hypocrite...You’re all over most threads screaming like a child.
Ciarán McGlone
34 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:41:21
34 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:41:21
To be fair, we could blow the lot on Messi to replace Osman but Ciarán would still not be happy as Hibbert would still be getting a game.
Some people are just never happy
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Gareth,
If you can find one post where I have a go at Hibbert - I’ll admit i’m a twat..
If you don’t - can you please admit that you’re a twat?
Some people are just never happy
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Gareth,
If you can find one post where I have a go at Hibbert - I’ll admit i’m a twat..
If you don’t - can you please admit that you’re a twat?
Mike Allison
35 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:46:53
35 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:46:53
"What I would like to see is a centre-mid enforcer who is comfortable with the ball"
How injured is Manuel Fernandes?!
If we only signed him and the centre backs I’d be happy enough.
I’d love a right winger though, I know it was just paper talk, but why aren’t we interested in Bystrov? Couldn’t the two Russians keep each other company?
To the people wanting to sign a right back and a left back as well as the midfielders, that isn’t going to happen. The midfield signings (if they happen) would free up Phil Neville to play right back, and between Neville, a left footed centre-back, and even, apparently, Bilyaletdinov, Moyes would feel left back was covered. Still, on past experience I can see us signing the full backs INSTEAD OF midfielders.
How injured is Manuel Fernandes?!
If we only signed him and the centre backs I’d be happy enough.
I’d love a right winger though, I know it was just paper talk, but why aren’t we interested in Bystrov? Couldn’t the two Russians keep each other company?
To the people wanting to sign a right back and a left back as well as the midfielders, that isn’t going to happen. The midfield signings (if they happen) would free up Phil Neville to play right back, and between Neville, a left footed centre-back, and even, apparently, Bilyaletdinov, Moyes would feel left back was covered. Still, on past experience I can see us signing the full backs INSTEAD OF midfielders.
Mike Allison
36 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:52:25
36 Posted 26/08/2009 at 13:52:25
Kev, the Middle East ’weekend’ is indeed traditionally Thursday and Friday.
However, in Dubai and Abu Dhabi this has effectively been changed to Friday and Saturday to allow more overlap with the rest of the world, I don’t know for a fact if that’s where City’s money is, but I’d expect (actually, hope for) it to be in our account by now anyway.
However, in Dubai and Abu Dhabi this has effectively been changed to Friday and Saturday to allow more overlap with the rest of the world, I don’t know for a fact if that’s where City’s money is, but I’d expect (actually, hope for) it to be in our account by now anyway.
Suzy Whitehead
37 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:00:47
37 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:00:47
Alan Clarke,
When you showing me the money?
Patience.
Suzy
When you showing me the money?
Patience.
Suzy
Gerard Quinn
38 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:28:27
38 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:28:27
While everyone’s busy dividing up the Lescott fee don’t forget about wages!
The new tax laws for people earning over £150k per annum and the strength of the euro against the pound, not to mention our reputation for being quite frugal on the salary front all add up to us not signing very many players by August 31st.
Hence the focus should be on UK based players - so for centre back read two of Distin/ Taylor/ Huth/ Dunne, and for midfield don’t rule out Krancjar.
Expect the defensive midfield role to be taken up by some random player not making the grade in a European league a la Castillo on loan last season....
The new tax laws for people earning over £150k per annum and the strength of the euro against the pound, not to mention our reputation for being quite frugal on the salary front all add up to us not signing very many players by August 31st.
Hence the focus should be on UK based players - so for centre back read two of Distin/ Taylor/ Huth/ Dunne, and for midfield don’t rule out Krancjar.
Expect the defensive midfield role to be taken up by some random player not making the grade in a European league a la Castillo on loan last season....
Duncan McDine
39 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:38:57
39 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:38:57
Well I think Ciarán cleverly dismissed any roumers that he likes an argument with his last 2 posts.
Aidy Dews
40 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:41:18
40 Posted 26/08/2009 at 14:41:18
For £7m I’d have Banega, he's a young quality midfielder that will only get better, and I can’t honestly see Everton going through all the trouble of securing a work permit for the lad if they weren't seriously interested?!
I’d definitely take Distin too, experienced centre back that can also cover at left back and I’d go for one of either Taylor, G Cahill, Wheater, Shawcross or Turner as a younger alternative and future investment, one of those mentioned would be a perfect partner for Jags in years to come!
Kurt Knight
41 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:00:01
41 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:00:01
Ciarán - in the evenings, I take a small white pill that keeps me happy the whole next day. The forum has requested that I ship a portion to you express.
Ciarán McGlone
42 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:02:56
42 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:02:56
I love arguments Duncan..You got a fucking point to go along with that pointless post?
You’re giving me nothing to go on here.
You’re giving me nothing to go on here.
Ciarán McGlone
43 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:11:46
43 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:11:46
..and become a red hand gang member? one of the happy clappers? a paragon of inconsistency? Unable to debate an argument without ad-hominem?
No thanks Kurt. I’ll take my chance with reality.
No thanks Kurt. I’ll take my chance with reality.
Rupert Sullivan
44 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:22:11
44 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:22:11
Ciaran, I think you have plenty to go on... he misspelt rumours for one thing...
Ciarán McGlone
45 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:24:05
45 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:24:05
Not my style Rupert...Leave those things to the children.
Greg Hunt
46 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:39:37
46 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:39:37
Fernandes will be out for at least a month. He broke his fibula towards the end of last season but he was able to start pre-season training. Now he seems to have had a relapse and has a minor fracture in the same place.
At least I think so, as when Spanish newspapers report football injuries they tend to be incredibly precise with medical language all over the place.
At least I think so, as when Spanish newspapers report football injuries they tend to be incredibly precise with medical language all over the place.
Phil Bellis
47 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:55:30
47 Posted 26/08/2009 at 15:55:30
Ciarán,
You could try a portable commode?
Gerard...doesn’t it make you do a double-take when you read £150k per annum under the forthcoming tax laws then remember we are talking £45-£165k per WEEK for these players?
You could try a portable commode?
Gerard...doesn’t it make you do a double-take when you read £150k per annum under the forthcoming tax laws then remember we are talking £45-£165k per WEEK for these players?
Duncan McDine
48 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:04:02
48 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:04:02
Come on Ciarán, I was only pulling your pizzler... have a laugh once in a while. You’re quite right - I didn’t make a valid point about anything Everton related.
I accept that I am a twat and can’t spell, unless Bill Gates puts a little red squiggly line under my mistakes (thanks Rupert). ;-)
I accept that I am a twat and can’t spell, unless Bill Gates puts a little red squiggly line under my mistakes (thanks Rupert). ;-)
Rupert Sullivan
49 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:13:19
49 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:13:19
I’m not sure I was suggesting that you’re a twat Duncan, I suspect that I was only trying to lighten up my boring old work day by starting a little pointless needling ;-)
Speaking of which, doesn’t Mr Gates do that for you here - he does me - heh heh!
Speaking of which, doesn’t Mr Gates do that for you here - he does me - heh heh!
Rupert Sullivan
50 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:16:15
50 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:16:15
The squiggly line thingummy - not the needling obviously!!
Ciarán McGlone
51 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:20:15
51 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:20:15
Ah Duncan, a piece of light pizzler pulling... are we back to Banega again?
Duncan McDine
52 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:18:44
52 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:18:44
No I don’t get the spellchecker thingamygigger on ToffeeWeb. I was only faffing as well.
To make a valid point here though, just for Ciarán to have something to go on... I think Destination Kirkby is a cracking little idea. Discuss.
To make a valid point here though, just for Ciarán to have something to go on... I think Destination Kirkby is a cracking little idea. Discuss.
Duncan McDine
53 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:24:22
53 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:24:22
That’s more like it Ciarán... I knew you had a bit of Irish in you (and I don’t mean a part of the little’n from Boyzone)
Alan Clarke
54 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:15:39
54 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:15:39
Suzy, I apologise, you called it right with Lescott (I don’t want to appear like a screaming child here). I asked you to name a charity. If you want the money yourself I’ll post it to you or leave it in a safe place? The house on Gladwys Street painted blue, there’ll be a brick behind the wall with the tenner under it if you like?
Ciaran, calm down mate. Do you pick a fight with yourself when no one’s around? You like to go on about irony so re-read your post to me saying I scream like a child. At least you’ve not accused me of being a Kopite this time.
Ciaran, calm down mate. Do you pick a fight with yourself when no one’s around? You like to go on about irony so re-read your post to me saying I scream like a child. At least you’ve not accused me of being a Kopite this time.
Ciarán McGlone
55 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:31:56
55 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:31:56
When did I accuse you of being a kopite Alan?
I think you’re confusing me with someone else...Either that or you’re fabricating evidence..
I suppose Gareth Humpreys has already stooped to that level on this thread...so you might as well do it too....
I think you’re confusing me with someone else...Either that or you’re fabricating evidence..
I suppose Gareth Humpreys has already stooped to that level on this thread...so you might as well do it too....
Ciarán McGlone
56 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:35:25
56 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:35:25
I think Kirkby’s a great Idea Duncan..we could put a little picnic table out the front and thatch it’s roof...
Rupert Sullivan
57 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:57:36
57 Posted 26/08/2009 at 16:57:36
Ciaran, Duncan - Kirkby is a great idea I admit, but I am worried that EFc won’t be able to find the 15 people need to fill it (after the government has amended the plans to suit the transport policy obviously).
Still, BK will be there no doubt - 1 down; 14 to go...
Still, BK will be there no doubt - 1 down; 14 to go...
Aodhan O'Faolain
58 Posted 26/08/2009 at 17:26:55
58 Posted 26/08/2009 at 17:26:55
Can we spend some of the Arab’s oil money on a professional assassin to get rid of Hibbert, well maybe just wing him and claim the insurance, and/or Billy Kenwright?
Phil Bellis
59 Posted 26/08/2009 at 17:34:54
59 Posted 26/08/2009 at 17:34:54
Duncan,
when you signed up did you not tick the ’automate spell checker’ box?
It’s bewn a gosdend for me
when you signed up did you not tick the ’automate spell checker’ box?
It’s bewn a gosdend for me
andy walker
60 Posted 26/08/2009 at 17:47:56
60 Posted 26/08/2009 at 17:47:56
Does anybody on here really know what dough (if any) Wolves will be getting from the Lescott deal? We may not be as well off as some think!
Phil Bellis
61 Posted 26/08/2009 at 18:02:54
61 Posted 26/08/2009 at 18:02:54
Andy,
Interesting line of thought here....
http://followeverton.com/2009/08/26/dont-expect-a-windfall/
Interesting line of thought here....
http://followeverton.com/2009/08/26/dont-expect-a-windfall/
Steven Jones
62 Posted 26/08/2009 at 19:25:52
62 Posted 26/08/2009 at 19:25:52
Squad out to europa game
Travelling squad: Howard, Nash, Hibbert, Baines, Yobo, Duffy, Neville, Rodwell, Osman, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill, Gosling, Saha, Yakubu, Vaughan, Jo, Wallace, Baxter, Akpan, Agard, Turner
along with Phil Jagielka, Mikel Arteta and Victor Anichebe to come back i make that 26 plus at least two more this week if Mmoyesie gets 3out of 4 then we are near the thirty mark ...
now out of those that would not normally get a start
Agard - I think could be very special
Jose Baxter - on the ball is bueatiful to watch
Akpan is very tidy and MOM earlier this week for ressies
Wallace - looks sturdy
that also discounts Coleman.
All going to improve and add value to our squad ... makes me feel warm about our progress.
Travelling squad: Howard, Nash, Hibbert, Baines, Yobo, Duffy, Neville, Rodwell, Osman, Fellaini, Pienaar, Cahill, Gosling, Saha, Yakubu, Vaughan, Jo, Wallace, Baxter, Akpan, Agard, Turner
along with Phil Jagielka, Mikel Arteta and Victor Anichebe to come back i make that 26 plus at least two more this week if Mmoyesie gets 3out of 4 then we are near the thirty mark ...
now out of those that would not normally get a start
Agard - I think could be very special
Jose Baxter - on the ball is bueatiful to watch
Akpan is very tidy and MOM earlier this week for ressies
Wallace - looks sturdy
that also discounts Coleman.
All going to improve and add value to our squad ... makes me feel warm about our progress.
John Sweeney
63 Posted 26/08/2009 at 20:06:29
63 Posted 26/08/2009 at 20:06:29
Last week, Everton submitted a request for a work permit for a Argentine, on loan, whom then it is reported that he and his club are not interested in a deal with Everton. Then we sign a Russian for £10 million and now have to wait while he requests a permit to work in the UK. Am I the only one confused with the way Everton go about things?
Getting a work permit for someone that's not going to join us. Why would they announce that they had a work permit without the assurance that the player would join us? We seem to always be in deals that never evolve into anything of substance.
Moyes has said he would like 4 more signings before the deadline. I don't believe that will happen. As for Kenwright, he must hate this time of year. The transfer window clearly indicates how impotent his administration of Everton is, he must pray for 1 September so that we can speculate who we will sign in January. That won't happen also.
Steven Jones
64 Posted 27/08/2009 at 09:32:56
64 Posted 27/08/2009 at 09:32:56
John,
I hope, and believe you hope, you will have to eat your words ...
I must be the eternal optimist, but I beleive we have probably touched many opportunities in this and previous windows, doing much groundwork and homework so could be in a good posiiton, but with agents playing 2, 3 or five different options each for their players and all playing the waiting game, I can see how this happens. Let alone the clubs holding out for the best transfer fees in multi virtual auctions.
This time I think we have probably enough irons in the fire fitting Moyesies quality mark that we should get a good crop ... fingers crossed.
last night on Everton TV he looked v confident of getting 4-5 faces by Monday, so we can expect at least three!! :-)
I hope, and believe you hope, you will have to eat your words ...
I must be the eternal optimist, but I beleive we have probably touched many opportunities in this and previous windows, doing much groundwork and homework so could be in a good posiiton, but with agents playing 2, 3 or five different options each for their players and all playing the waiting game, I can see how this happens. Let alone the clubs holding out for the best transfer fees in multi virtual auctions.
This time I think we have probably enough irons in the fire fitting Moyesies quality mark that we should get a good crop ... fingers crossed.
last night on Everton TV he looked v confident of getting 4-5 faces by Monday, so we can expect at least three!! :-)
Gerard Quinn
65 Posted 27/08/2009 at 12:07:21
65 Posted 27/08/2009 at 12:07:21
Phil, that’s exactly my point! Players get crazy salaries but if you want the best ’talent’ you have to pay the going rate.
The tax laws will hit these guys harder (spitting blood as I type!) because after their first few weeks wages they have to give 50% of what they earn back to the government for the rest of the year.
So they all try to get deals ’netto’ and put the tax burden back on the club. Which in turns means that the Lescott £24m doesn’t pay for many top salaries once transfer fees are accounted for.
Which means the best deals out there for us are for players already in that situation where we at least have a level playing field when we try to negotiate personal terms.
The tax laws will hit these guys harder (spitting blood as I type!) because after their first few weeks wages they have to give 50% of what they earn back to the government for the rest of the year.
So they all try to get deals ’netto’ and put the tax burden back on the club. Which in turns means that the Lescott £24m doesn’t pay for many top salaries once transfer fees are accounted for.
Which means the best deals out there for us are for players already in that situation where we at least have a level playing field when we try to negotiate personal terms.
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1 Posted 26/08/2009 at 10:11:32
Have to say I do worry that once again central midfield is going to be the position that doesn’t attended to by the time the window closes.
Here’s hoping Moyesey has something up his sleeve if Banega doesn’t pan out.