ToffeeWeb - Season 2009-10

Michael Kenrick

Moyes as ever sticks by Hibbert and Osman...

Nick Veitch
1 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:00:00

Anyone have a link for the game?

Tom Winek
2 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:01:28

http://iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

Tom Brown
3 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:01:53

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a99851079658

Iain Smith
4 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:02:41

In programme Moyes talks about buying new right back. SO that’s good news.

Nick Veitch
5 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:03:15

Thanks Tom Tom

Siggi Árna
6 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:16:02

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=46998&part=sports

SopCast link working fine.

Tom Campbell
7 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:17:01

I cant find one good link

Tom Winek
8 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:19:49

Iraqgoals has been fine for the last 5 minutes. First 10 were poor

Colin Ryan
9 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:19:57

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a99851079658 Best Link i’ve had this season Tom

Ray Barnes
10 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:21:42

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a99851079658

Veetle is brilliant, big window, brilliant quality.

Tom Campbell
11 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:27:28

Thanks Colin its great.

Alec Laurie
12 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:33:05

Not the best game, but we look better with lescott off the scene

Mike Coates
13 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:34:10

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html is what I’m watchin it on at work, but blardy choppy as..

Dunno if can install the other proggy’s here :(

Thomas Surgenor
14 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:35:15

Cahill has been excellent so far, playing his proper role. Also, Rodwell looking good.

Ged Simpson
15 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:47:45

For is first game, Distin seems quite steady

Eamonn Byrne
16 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:53:37

stick pip at the back and bring on maybe fella or dare i say it jo to start attacking

anyone watch pompey v city? Your man belhadj looks very good. good cover even replacement for baines...

Gerry Quinn
17 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:55:58

5 shots on target, 0 to Wigan who have conceded 17 fouls - says it all, niggly bastards. Poor match and poor performance by the blues so far...

Mark Pendleton
18 Posted 30/08/2009 at 15:58:25

Watched Pompey vs City and liked the look of Vanden Borre.

Nick Veitch
19 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:00:17

I agree with Thomas regarding Cahill. Put him in his preferred position and see how he plays!!
He is just being wasted when he plays further back at the expense of Fellaini.
Let’s just hope we can get a goal here.

Steve Pugh
20 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:07:43

What a crap cross from Hibbo, straight to Saha at the near post, the guy obviously can’t cross to save his life

Ged Simpson
21 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:08:20

I think we’ve been told to press more and better for it

Alec Laurie
22 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:12:00

good spell of pressure - keep it up lads

Joey Brown
23 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:12:40

Get Osman off.

Tom Campbell
24 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:14:03

Only a matter of time before Wigan sneak a goal.

Ged Simpson
25 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:12:32

Joleon who ?

Eamonn Byrne
26 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:16:30

http://atdhe.net/8922/watch-everton-fc-vs-wigan-athletic

not bad...

Rob Murphy
27 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:16:22

Give Billy half an hour. The lad’s season started in March so he should be well upto speed.

Alec Laurie
28 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:17:29

And Wigan lead at Goodison. FUCK OFFFFFF!!!

Joey Brown
29 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:17:54

WOW

Tom Campbell
30 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:17:50

I told you

Ged Simpson
31 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:16:12

Hobbert was dreaming

Rob Murphy
32 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:18:11

Tom,

next weeks lottery numbers by any chance mate??

Joey Brown
33 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:18:44

I was just thinking this is the first game we deserve something out of... and now it looks a draw at best.

Colin Ryan
34 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:16:00

How much lower can this season get? Get Osman off... switch Pienaar out to the right and get Bily on down the left! Neville to right back and bring Fellaini on for Hibbert.

Gordon Byrne
35 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:19:38

FFS marking, anybody!! Hibbo in la la land!!

Alec Laurie
36 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:20:30

Colin, we all know that. Shame Moyes doesn’t

Andrew Ellams
37 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:20:24

Joke, you can blame Kenwright, Hibbert and Osman as much as you like but there is only one man responsible for the crap on the field. Moyes needs to motivate his troops and quickly. Not his strongpoint.

Rob Murphy
38 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:21:11

Problems on the left this week...

Eamonn Byrne
39 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:22:52

Get in... 30 mins left... come on Toffees

Callum Greenall
40 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:23:19

YESSSS CMOOONNNN!!

Alec Laurie
41 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:22:19

Better!

Bily on now - let’s go for the win

Callum Greenall
42 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:23:35

Bring on Bily — give the lad a run out.

Colin Ryan
43 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:22:08

King Louis!!!!!!!!!!!Come on lads and get a second!!

James Marshall
44 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:23:36

Saha, scrappy but it’ll do.

We should win this - we’ve been all over Wigan from the first whistle.

Srdjan Sekulic
45 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:24:05

Louiiiiiiis !!!!

Tom Campbell
46 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:21:19

1-1

Callum Greenall
47 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:24:39

James, I don't think anybody cares how we score at the moment

Jeremy Benson
48 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:23:13

I’m sick of these rubbish starts to the season. Learn for gods sake Moyes/Round!

I was hoping for a top 8 finish this season (considering our poor attempt at squad improvement), but already I’m revising that down to a top 12 finish - and to be quite frank anything above 17th I’d take right now.

This isn’t good enough. You cant drop points to teams like Burnley and Wigan if you want to be taken seriously.

Tom Campbell
49 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:25:02

I think we will win this 2-1.
Saha or Cahill

Alec Laurie
50 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:26:08

I just don’t know how Moyes can justify keeping Osman on for this long and not giving Bily an early run out. He can’t be any worse!

James Marshall
51 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:26:38

Yeah thats what I said, scrappy but it’ll do.

Wigan are so physical, they’ve battered us.

James Marshall
52 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:28:05

Oh and apart from the goal, Saha is awful. His control is pitiful and he couldn’t pass water.

Fellaini’s coming on.

Joey Brown
53 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:30:40

Yeah Saha has looked terrible apart from the goal... COME ON FELLI!

Tom Campbell
54 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:30:34

James, he's probably our best player

Raymond Choi
55 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:29:44

Even if we manage to win this, that’s no hiding the fact that we are piss poor, and we are only playing Wigan ffs.

And if Yobo hoofs that ball again, I’ll throw my remote at my TV (no, I probably won’t but you can understand my frustration!)

James Marshall
56 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:32:30

I dunno what game you’re watching Tom, but I’m watching Everton v Wigan and Saha is terrible. He can barely control the ball at any stage.

Alec Laurie
57 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:33:30

I’m actually GLAD that all of these links are shite...

Tom Campbell
58 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:34:30

Lads. Saha is the most talented players on the pitch. He needs quality passes up to him, not long hoof balls

Rob Murphy
59 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:35:03

Cahill?????????

Colin Ryan
60 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:35:30

How did Timmy miss that? Great ball from Hibbert in fairness!! Come on, Jo.

Emyr Jones
61 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:37:09

Anyone please got a link that works?

James Marshall
62 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:36:07

The reason we’ve played it long from our fullbacks so much, is because of the way WIgan play. They push 2 players up on Hibbert & Baines which means they have to play it long at times.

What a surprise, Tom, Saha taken off for Jo.....

Colin Ryan
63 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:37:47

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a99851079658

Rob Murphy
64 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:37:41

Christ Rodwell????

Tom Campbell
65 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:37:29

Sitter

James Marshall
66 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:38:00

Blazed over the bar from Rodwell

Berry McWilliam
67 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:37:48

How good has Hibbert's corssing been!!! I've seen 3 great crosses so far.

Steve Pugh
68 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:38:27

http://elivestreaming.blogspot.com/2009/08/live-football-streaming.html

James Marshall
69 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:39:40

I think Hibbo’s been outstanding today. He gets far too much stick on here. His crossing has been excellent.

Rob Murphy
70 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:40:54

3 good crosses from how many attempts???

Ged Simpson
71 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:40:44

Seems to me we have strikers who cannot hold up a ball. But is that what they should do all day? Hold up another bloddy long ball.

Ever seen a pass into a channel yet? The service to them is rubbish.

Jason Heng
72 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:41:52

How many good crosses from Baines today?

Saha would have put that in. Jo?

James Marshall
73 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:42:15

We’re all over them at the moment.

They’re pretty much pinned back.

Callum Greenall
74 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:43:22

Hibbert's crossing is class today.

Rob Murphy
75 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:44:17

Come on ta fuck!

Raymond Choi
76 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:47:34

What the fuck is Billy going to do with 2 minutes plus stoppage time ?

Rob Murphy
77 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:51:46

Penalty!!!

Jason Heng
78 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:52:45

Score a penalty?

Srdjan Sekulic
79 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:45:59

Pen !!!!

Callum Greenall
80 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:53:33

CMON BAINES!!! YESSSSSSSS

James Marshall
81 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:52:43

Penalty....

Callum Greenall
82 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:54:07

EVERTON! EVERTON! EVERTON!

Colin Ryan
83 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:53:42

Bainsey you legend!!!!!!!!

James Marshall
84 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:54:32

No more than we deserved.

Kevin Hudson
85 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:54:26

We have a new David Unsworth !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rhino Baines !!!

Rob Murphy
86 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:54:19

Fuck me Jo looked Brazilian for a split second there.........oh yeah he is Brazilian!!

James Marshall
87 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:55:10

Almost 3, Jo hit the post, clean through

Srdjan Sekulic
88 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:55:13

We WON it! FFS, finally

Nathan O'Hagan
89 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:55:12

Not sure how much we deserved it, but that’ll do me. We just needed the three points, regardless of performance. We have to kick on from here though. Play like we did for the last 20 minutes for the full match, instead of not looking interested for most of the game.

Tom Campbell
90 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:56:15

Oh Davey Moyes

James Marshall
91 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:56:07

Thank God for that, exactly what we needed - a decent performance too against a tough physical Wigan.

Eamonn Byrne
92 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:56:45

Brilliant, now let's splash the cash and bulid on this!

Ged Simpson
93 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:55:18

16 shots on target. 3 pts. It’s a start.

John Audsley
94 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:56:38

Thank fuck for that

I missed the pen as my son (who is 3) punched me in the balls!!

Phew!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Callum Greenall
95 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:57:18

Nathan... Are you joking..

James Marshall
96 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:59:00

Nathan, we played really well - their goal was totally against the run of play. Go and look at the stats and you’ll see we ran the game from start to finish mate.

We had about 18 shots to their 3 and they fouled us over 20 times to about 6 from us.

Colin Ryan
97 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:58:14

We're only 3 points off a Europa cup spot now... What crisis??? Rodwell must start every game now. Best player on the pitch for me!

John Gaulton
98 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:00:54

It was a good performance. Now hopefully we can kick on now and start our season.

Rob Murphy
99 Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:56:21

Is it just me or were Wigan a dirty fucking shower today kickin & foulin their way through the game? Serves the fuckers right, we got what we deserved unlike last week when we deserved a draw at least. Not a great performance but good for the confidence before the international break, our season begins at last. And Jack Rodwell was fucking IMMENSE today (apart from missing that sitter!!). What a player we have there lads.

John Gaulton
100 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:02:53

You're right Rob. Rodwell is looking better and better every game.

Rob Pendleton
101 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:02:35

Colin, Great link tonight http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4a99851079658 -

Got it as clear as day.

The old man and I sitting by the laptop yelling our boxes off is a sight to behold but havent tuned in for a link before.

Everton were bumped on Foxtel Aussie for the two games.

Second time in two weeks which is a piss off.

Great second half and even better result to get the season started.

James Marshall
102 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:04:05

The boy Jack is gonna be a cracking player, he’s already so mature for one so young.

Rob, yeah Wigan were well dirty all game, especially in the first half - it was clearly their intention to play it rough and not let us play. They got what they deserved, a beating.

Neil Pearse
103 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:02:46

Rodwell MotM by a mile. Fellaini made a very positive difference when on. Cahill better upfront. Hibbert excellent going forward (really). Osman woeful, surely now to the bench?

Good fighting performance. Now we are moving.

Nathan O'Hagan
104 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:06:12

My link cut out a lot but from what I saw of the first half we looked neat enough but lacking in any cutting edge. A couple of really nice moves aside, I thought we saved the best for the last 20 minutes, but if those of you who had a better link and saw the whole game think we played well, then fair enough.

The main thing, though, was to get three points on the board, and to give ourselves something to build on. As horrible as the first two results were, I haven’t really been worried about how we’d do this season, we just needed a win to get the team's confidence up, and now we have, the season really starts here. COYB!!

Joel Webb
105 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:01:51

Good to see Rodwell backing up and also Timmy back lurkin in the box. I thought Hibbert was good and the Fella did well off the bench.

It's 2am so time to take Ged’s advice — should sleep well now thanks to BAINESY!

Now... let's destroy Fulham!

Rob Pendleton
106 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:20:54

Rodwell is all class.

Timmy was much better one behind Louis

Jut saying to the old man how a minute can make such a difference to the rest of the week.

The complexion of the working week changed with the net bulging after Bainsey's cracker spot-kick.

Jo’s poster at the end would have topped it off but happier for the 3 points when at one stage I was praying for one.

Off to bed it’s 12:30am here and up for work at 4...

Dan Parker
107 Posted 30/08/2009 at 18:00:00

Bloody hell, that was a close one. We were all over them in the second half but left ourselves badly exposed to counter-attacks, we very nearly came a cropper again. Didn’t see the sense in taking Saha off but it’s Moyseys job, not mine.

Hibbert made a fantastic first touch cross which Timmy should have converted but it's the result that counts!

Rodwell awesome!

Dave Roberts
108 Posted 30/08/2009 at 17:46:41

I was beginning to feel quite lonely as the sole member of the Fellaini appreciation society (or so it seemed) but hopefully after today I may have some company.

This lad changed the game for us today. From the moment he came on he changed a static incompetent performance into one of hope and prospects. He was winning headers and keeping the ball. He was winning tackles and placing intelligent passes. He was making chances and he was running into space and providing options. Even my anti-Fellaini mate had to admit after the game that Fellaini coming on was the difference between an ignominious result and three points.

I am not about to suggest that this lad is world class because I am not even sure what that means, but hopefully after today some of thoseEvertonians who doubt his value will reassess their opinion. We missed him when he wasn’t there at the start and we looked more composed, more assured and a better side when he came on.

He wasn’t the man of the match — Jack Rodwell was for me because he was the only dependable option for 90 minutes, but Jack couldn’t change a dire performance. Fellaini did and got us a victory and 3 points from nowt. Give this kid (for that is what he is!) a break and give him the credit he is due.

Yes, he lacks pace, sometimes he looks awkward... even ponderous, but he has football in his BRAIN which is sometimes just as important if not more important than having it in your feet.

Anybody want to join me in the FAS?

Neil Pearse
109 Posted 30/08/2009 at 18:08:31

I’m with you Dave, sign me up. You’ve got it right: he has a football brain. Awesome throughball for Jo which he should have scored. Watched him waiting for Hibbert to catch up and then laying off perfectly for Hibbert’s fine cross.

The problem is where to play him? What is he? Not as good a defensive midfielder as even Neville, or as good an attacking midfielder as Cahill. Perhaps the solution after all is to play him right bang slap in the middle of midfield alongside Rodwell? With Neville (I hope maybe Heitinga) behind, and then Cahill and Saha / Jo in front. Interested in others’ thoughts.

Gerry Western
110 Posted 30/08/2009 at 18:41:36

Dave, I’ve been praising Felliani since his debut and find the criticism leveled at him to be totally unjustified, more often than not it’s linked to his fee. Today he was awesome his intervention turned the game on its head. Although we’d pegged them back I never really felt we were capable of getting a win until his introduction. Rodwell was superb and indeed I’d posted on another thread that Fellaini and Rodwell would be my automatic choices for the midfield births. Also was hoping Cahill would play behind the striker and that looked much better also. The question is will Moyes stick with Fellaini and Rodwell or will Neville and Osman get the nod once more, I wonder.

Tony I'Anson
111 Posted 30/08/2009 at 18:46:51

When the transfer window closes, I reckon Osman and Hibbert will gracefully accept their squad player roles that is bound to happen if yet another 2 or 3 players turn up.

Lionel Luthor
112 Posted 30/08/2009 at 18:55:47

Today was at times frustrating, but a win is a win. Some plus points in the role Screech played when he came on. Distin did well on his debut. Cahill played in his favoured position.

Can’t be arsed with the few negatives, they’ve been done to death.

Andrew Bankes
113 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:03:00

From the other side of the ground I was convinced (admittedly after reading Moyes’s comments in the programme) I could see Banega watching the 1st half from one of the exec boxes..... he had the long hair and a decent tan and was wearing a white t-shirt.... can anybody put me out of my misery and tell me it was one of Big Vic’s mates or some other no-mark?!?!

Martin Berry
114 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:07:44

I thought we played quite well today. The match stats show we dominated the game and were unlucky not to win by a greater margin. An encouraging performance and I thought Fellani was superb when he came on. Bily didn’t get much of a chance but let's face it he only trained yesterday for the first time so any critism of Moyes on phone-ins is a joke. Are season starts now!!! We have a lot to do to get in the top 6 but hopefully with a couple of new signings it’s a posibility. COYB.

David McKitt
115 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:14:04

Andrew to answer your question — no, it wasn't Banega, unless he got a very fast flight back to Spain... he's on the box at the mo, playing for Valencia and helped create their 1st goal.

Dave Wilson
116 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:13:35

Dave / Neil

Knew if we lived long enough we’d agree.
Fellaini : better than Teddy Sheringham at his age, soooo much more to come from him. I underastand the critics - he drives me mad too. but the boy has a football brain

David McKitt
117 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:25:09

May I also just add it's my first time watching Banega, and I must say I've been impressed. Good control, some nice thru balls and comfortable on the ball...

Keith Glazzard
118 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:31:57

Fellaini - booked 245 times last year for ’persistent fouling’.

If this had been applied to Wigan today the game would have been abandoned as they would have run out of players. Obviously planned from before the game, they were a disgrace.

Justice was done.

Mark Stone
119 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:47:34

Did Rodwell get MotM?

Dave Roberts
120 Posted 30/08/2009 at 19:55:32

Keith,
You have to blame the match officials. Last week we had a referee excusing himself for giving a penalty for Eduardo diving by saying he consulted the linesman! I can just imagine that conversation.

’That WAS a penalty wasn’t it?’

’Err....yes, if you say so’.

Then we had fourth official and a referee yesterday sending off Wenger for kicking a bottle!

Today we had a team determined to chop Everton down at the hint of a threat and a referee who seemed equally determined to do nothing significant about it.

All different officials I agree, but until referees are held properly accountable for their ’mistakes’ (sic) nothing will ever change.

Julian Wait
121 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:11:52

Not necessarily a Hibbert fan, but have to defend him on the goal; Osman let his man go and Hibbert only moved when he realized that and it was too late.

Clearly an Osman lapse, and if you could see Osman’s face on FSC you’d say the same. Hibbert actually played alright today, he’s just getting hung out to dry by Osman on a regular basis.