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Does Marouane Fellaini Have An Everton Future?
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That might sound weird considering he was Everton's Young Player of the Season last year but where exactly does Fellaini fit into the Everton team?
Fellaini has been used to some effect as a second striker. Its a role he can play thanks to his height but long term surely he can't stay there. Cahill is a better goalscorer from that position and it would be nice to think that eventually Everton will have two strikers worth playing up front.
So if that role is not long term for Fellaini then he'll have to be moved back down into midfield. The question is does he have the ability to play a conventional midfield role?
Fellaini is not a fast player and he's not got the best engine either so its difficult to see him being a box-to-box type player.
Fellaini is also not great at tackling so its unlikely he'll have a defensive midfield role (especially since it looks like Rodwell may take that role).
At times Fellaini can look comfitable on the ball and pick out a decent pass but he's a long way from Arteta's standard.
I personally think Fellaini will struggle to find a long term role in the Everton side. I was hoping he was going to be a craft-and-graft type player like Don Hutchinson but I really don't know if he's talented enough.
What do the rest of you feel about Fellaini? Does he have a long-term role to play?
Dick Anderson, Posted 30/08/2009 at 16:49:33
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2 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:43:48
3 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:39:38
I definitely think we would see a better Fellaini if we had a settled midfield capable of passing the ball. Too many hospital balls or hoofing going on for him to show any sort of continued quality. (WHY oh WHY didn’t we sign Defour instead?!!!)
Here’s a thought........why not approach Standard and ask if they would consider a loan swap for a season with the view to us buying Defour next summer? Fuck it, let’s just buy Defour and loan them Screech!!
The sad thing is I’m not joking!
4 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:42:23
Just Moyes did the mistake in thinking he would adapt in a defensive midfield role quite quickly, when it would clearly take at least another season, I just hope he does.
Just a bit off topic, I was listening to the game today on the radio, so didn't know the details, but where did Fellaini play once he came on? And did he play alrite?
5 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:47:53
6 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:52:07
Cahill is the one, at the moment, who needs a kick up the arse. He’s been very poor so far this season.
Also, it’s a squad game.
7 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:53:09
I think he has huge potential and see him in the future playing a similar role to Ballack. Fellaini doesn’t shoot enough in my opinion but when he does he seems to have a decent shot on him and could potentialy score a lot of goals if encouraged to shoot more as well as chipping in with the usual goals with his head.
His passing is also very good and his height is vital for corners and set peices in both boxes, he's still a young lad, we’re only 3 games into the season and he is getting written off, its ridiculous.
8 Posted 30/08/2009 at 22:03:35
Also agree with the Cahill comment. Off colour without a doubt!
9 Posted 30/08/2009 at 22:06:55
He has a future in our squad if only because he offers something different with his height and strength as well as having a decent touch and eye for a pass.
At the moment, I prefer seeing him as a sub. He is off the pace a bit so can struggle against faster, fitter opposition when starting the game. However, as a sub, with opposition energy used, this ceases to be a problem.
He is a very usefull sub to have too. He unsettles the opposition and distracts them. This could be very useful if the game was not going our way.
As for the price paid for him. It is irrelevant. He is either worthy of a place in the team/squad or he isnt. The price tag does not make him any more or less deserving. If you think too much was paid, that is something to blame Moyes for, not the big Fella.
10 Posted 30/08/2009 at 22:18:26
11 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:52:03
In terms of abilities, he is a far better passer than Cahill, he holds the ball up better, and I don't think he is any slower than Cahill... but that's not to say he’s quick either. His gait makes it look like he's slow, but he's not. Both players are excellent finishers.
When he came on today, the quality of our game was much better. The ball stuck in the final third due to his physical presence and ability and he played some quality forward passes, on the deck creating opportunities for us.
I have to say I’m not absolutely 100% convinced about him though, my main criticism is that he never seems to jump his height. He is quite often out-jumped by much smaller players. I hope this is something the coaches can work on.
I think we will see a much better Fellaini when Arteta returns. Like Saha, I don't think he is suited to the hoofball, head-tennis 100 mph game we so often play. Luckily the quality of our midfield is improving with the likes of Rodwell, Pienaar and now (hopefully) Bily, being in the pass & move camp.
12 Posted 30/08/2009 at 22:28:32
13 Posted 30/08/2009 at 22:42:32
14 Posted 30/08/2009 at 22:47:46
There are some bizarre and incorrect things said about Fellaini. He would pride himself on his engine and is very much a ’box to box’ player. Unfortunately, as Moyes often does, he’s been used incorrectly as an up front target man for the hoof all too often. On today’s evidence, the future is Rodwell and Fellaini in the middle of the park.
If he was only 6’1" and didn’t have the hair, but did everything else the same, I’m convinced people would have different opinions of him, it seems image is everything and he projects an ungainliness that actually doesn’t reflect his ability.
15 Posted 30/08/2009 at 23:45:18
16 Posted 30/08/2009 at 23:51:48
As for what happens when we have two strikers, am I missing something here? Haven’t we got about four, albeit two who’d be considered fully fit. It may have escaped the notice of some but Saha and Jo simply hasn’t worked to date. Cahill is tailor made for that role. He’s had an injury of late but there were clear signs today that he is returning to form.
Fellaini and Rodwell are the future of EFC, assuming of course we can hold on to them. Any club with Champions League ambitions will aim to have a number of players to call upon throughout the course of a season. It's called strength in depth. There seems to be an idea here that you only need one player in each position. We need to rid ourselves of that mindset if we are seriously contemplating future success.
17 Posted 31/08/2009 at 00:07:16
18 Posted 31/08/2009 at 00:15:30
The reason Cahill has been a bit quiet lately is because he’s been playing out of his normal position. He is the most versatile player in the team and has been covering in the defensive midfield role, thats why he hasn’t been scoring of late.
He played his normal position last night and was close to MOM, and looked dangerous all game.
As usual he is our Mr Fixit and his own game suffers because of it.
19 Posted 31/08/2009 at 00:19:31
you’re talking about our leading goalscorer last season with 9 goals.
he may confuse the supporters sometimes but he also confuses and rattles the opposition.
I would also argue he has a great engine not particularly quick but great stamina and I bet the stats would show he covers more distance than anyone but Pienaar in a game.
His passing can really open things up at times and unlike a few of our other players is always looking gor a forward pass rather than pass back to Yobo for it to be hoofed up the pitch.
As we improve the MF with more quality I think we’ll see the best of him.
20 Posted 31/08/2009 at 00:56:52
21 Posted 31/08/2009 at 00:49:00
I've said on this site many times, Fellaini is like a centre-half in midfield but he would not even make a centre-half because he cannot tackle. I'd really like the lad to do well but I can only see him coming off the bench for the last 10 or 15 minutes, as he did today.
22 Posted 31/08/2009 at 01:25:32
Is it just me or does every Evertonian at the moment just want to scrutinise their players?
23 Posted 31/08/2009 at 02:01:42
Today, when he played Jo in for that chance on goal that he hit the upright with, the pass he played was inch-perfect. I would also add that he looked like he was motoring just before he played the pass. Give the lad a chance and recognise the fact that his first season was very good. I bet you he will become one of our star players in the not tool distant future.
24 Posted 31/08/2009 at 07:43:43
Neville - Yobo - Distin - Baines
Felliani - Cahill - Rodwell - Bily
Pienaar
Saha
25 Posted 31/08/2009 at 08:14:19
He’ll be fine as soon as DM realises he’s not Big Dunc.
26 Posted 31/08/2009 at 08:46:31
27 Posted 31/08/2009 at 11:17:13
He is young, and he is still learning, and still holding his place in the Belgian national side. And of course he has certain weakness, but he is not giving the same amount of silly free-kicks, as last season. I think Moyes has great faith in him, and he will win over the fans, when the whole team get going.
We expect new faces to appear, after Tuesday, and when the team settles, let's hope its sooner than later, results improve.
28 Posted 31/08/2009 at 11:33:11
29 Posted 31/08/2009 at 12:14:16
Moyes’s substitutions yesterday won it for us. Fellaini was excellent yesterday making driving runs forward through the midfield and Jo won us the pen.
Credit to Moyes.
30 Posted 31/08/2009 at 14:05:11
On his day, Fella wins endless amounts of headers off goalkicks, wins possession back off the opposition, makes runs and occasionally (9 times last season) can get us a goal; however he does tend to disappear in games. At the age of 21, having made a great impression in his first season and being involved in the Belgium set up, Fellaini has Worldclass Potential.
31 Posted 31/08/2009 at 15:25:30
32 Posted 31/08/2009 at 17:04:57
I’m not too worried about him winning headers off goalkicks because (a) despite their (lack of) height Saha and Cahill both do that anyway and (b) the second ball after the header is far more important.
33 Posted 31/08/2009 at 17:03:07
However he does at times look ungainly, but the lad can’t help his size and he wasn’t helped by being played all over the place in his first year due to our injury problems. I think he suffers due to us not yet having pinned down his best position. Don’t forget his age, still a lot to come from this 21 year old I feel.
34 Posted 31/08/2009 at 17:58:52
35 Posted 31/08/2009 at 18:40:15
36 Posted 31/08/2009 at 19:47:49
As for turning the game on its head, hardly, we were playing a piss-poor Wigan team.
I would cash in asap as we have a much better and cheaper option in Rodwell...
Just my opinion folks...
37 Posted 31/08/2009 at 19:50:48
Heitinga Distin Jagielka Baines
Pienaar Arteta Rodwell Bilyaletdinov
Yakubu Saha
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1 Posted 30/08/2009 at 21:39:41
As mentioned, he doesn’t seem good enough to have a position. At the moment, I see him as the supporting striker, the Cahill role. However, Cahill is much better in this position, and Timmy needs to be played there and not in centre midfield. Therefore, I currently only see Fellaini as a back-up to Cahill, but long-term successor to the role.