ToffeeWeb - Season 2009-10

Gerry Quinn
1 Posted 21/11/2009 at 16:57:44

Everton: Howard, Neill, Yobo, Distin, Baines, Gosling, Rodwell, Heitinga, Cahill, Fellaini, Saha. Subs: Nash, Hibbert, Jo, Yakubu, Coleman, Duffy, Baxter.

Dave Southon
2 Posted 21/11/2009 at 16:57:45

TEAMS Man Utd v Everton
Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Brown, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Fletcher, Carrick, Giggs, Rooney, Owen. Subs: Kuszczak, Anderson, Scholes, Welbeck, Obertan, Gibson, De Laet.
Everton: Howard, Neill, Yobo, Distin, Baines, Gosling, Rodwell, Heitinga, Cahill, Fellaini, Saha. Subs: Nash, Hibbert, Jo, Yakubu, Coleman, Duffy, Baxter.

Keith Glazzard
3 Posted 21/11/2009 at 16:57:46

Jimmy Crack

HIBBERT ON THE BENCH?!?!?!?!

Howard, Neill, Yobo, Distin, Baines, Gosling, Rodwell, Heitinga, Cahill, Fellaini, Saha. Subs: Nash, Hibbert, Jo, Yakubu, Coleman, Duffy, Baxter.

Gerry Quinn
4 Posted 21/11/2009 at 16:57:54

Don’t know why, but I am getting a good feeling about today’s game - hope the boys believe it too

Keith Glazzard
5 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:06:01

Yes Gerry - looking at the two teamsheets we should be able to do something. A Gosling winner would be wonderful, but you’ve got to hope that King Louis has a great game.

Adrian Lalor
6 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:11:24

Any sopcast links for the match?
Thanks in advance

Robert Moore
7 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:23:06

http://hqsportz.net/chan1.html working perfect

Aiden Doyle
8 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:32:02

Adrian, looks like Channel 81774 (FS TV) are covering it.

Andrew Oxton
9 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:35:56

69850 is in english and perfect COYB

Ged Simpson
10 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:39:00

7 mins gone.

They’re shaking already

Andrew Oxton
11 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:40:23

gonna be a long game..COYB

Ste Blundell
12 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:42:30

Andrew Oxton what’s 69850? Could you give us a whole url? Thanks mate.

Andrew Oxton
13 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:45:22

here it is
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/69850

Ged Simpson
14 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:46:27

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch5.html

Rob Murphy
15 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:46:34

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch5.html seems to be working fine Ste.

Ged Simpson
16 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:47:04

United are really up for a scrap

Ste Blundell
17 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:47:23

God Bless you.

Rob Murphy
18 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:52:33

Holding our own so far,keep the work rate & the concentration levels up & there’s something in this game for us.

Ged Simpson
19 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:54:20

Just saw a clip of BK

We’ve no chance if he sits like that ...in that coat

Sack everyone !

Gordon Crawford
20 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:56:32

All we ever do is sit back. Tired of it.

Mark Fitzgerald
21 Posted 21/11/2009 at 17:53:35

First 20mins have been tough viewing. Utd dominant, and look in the mood to play ball. We on the other hand are backs to wall . . already. We have to change our attitude and take the game to them. Come on Davey, five in midfield is pointless if they’re not winning the possession stakes. Saha looks lively but is totally isolated. Switch to a four man midfield, stick Yak up front, and lets have a right go. If we go down, at least we’ll go down fighting.

Andy Morden
22 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:06:36

Here we go... Hmmm, this is going to be tricky to turn around.

Gordon Crawford
23 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:06:49

Guys any other links?

Thanks

Wilson Tan
24 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:08:00

can’t do much about the goal conceded :(

Ged Simpson
25 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:08:12

I agree with Mark. 2 up front

Kieran Kinsella
26 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:08:41

I’d have thought there would be more links that the iraqgoals one which is rubbish and the sopcast which I can’t get to work but whatever this game sucks.

Andy Morden
27 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:07:14

The ESPN commentators are twats. A free kick against Fellaini was "defininate" (it appeared the Man U player jumped into his armpit, i.e. he’s shorter than fellaini), whereas Vidic’s swinging Elbow into Heitinga’s face is "just part of the game". It is nothing new, but maddening all the same...

Gordon Crawford
28 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:07:33

United have had 71% of the possession apparently according to bbc, says it all really. Come on dithering dave, be adventurous.

Ste Traverse
29 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:07:50

Our usual pathetic perfomance against United.

Wilson Tan
30 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:10:47

just another damage limitation exercise. Come on DM!

Andy Morden
31 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:10:47

Although, the kinky afro’s tackle on Fletcher was shite...

Andrew Oxton
32 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:10:43

Its not even close, its like men against boys..Two up front, cant see it, this was always going to be a smash and grab. We are still playing for the draw, COYB

Roger Trenwith
33 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:13:12

The commentators have their tongues so far up Man U’s collective arse, they’re licking the eyebrows.

Kieran Kinsella - it’s probably your firewall settings that are stopping sopcast from working. :)

Jimmy Crack
34 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:14:16

Great performance by Heitinga so far, his long range passing is fantastic

Mark Fitzgerald
35 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:11:06

The goal was inevitable, was only a matter of time. Will be doing well if we get to half time just the one down. Louis must be fed up with no support. Moyes has to change shape, personnel, attitude, something. Or the second 45 will be a carbon copy.

Andy Morden
36 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:15:49

I’m loving the "leave Louis in their half, hit him early and hope Cahill and Felli can get up to support before he gets tackled by the entire United defence" tactic. No really, it is clearly the way forward.

Andrew Oxton
37 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:16:16

Roger, its unbelievable, the dick head i’m listening to is almost banging one out over Man U.

Sam Higgins
38 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:10:36

Christ its so fucking boring though isnt - if we were 1-0 down but had hit the post 5 times then id be fine with it. But its judt defend defend defend. man u can score all day long against this shit

Paul O'Grady
39 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:16:33

We are poor today, it looks like they have an extra couple of men on the pitch and a lot sharper. Saha up front on his own must have a huge pain in his bollocks.

Roger Trenwith
40 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:16:14

That was awful. Moyes must change the system for the second half.

Roger Trenwith
41 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:21:39

Luckily i will miss the second half as we’re going for a Thai meal and a few pints. The way we played in the first half i predict at least 3-0 to MU. Fuck.

Ged Simpson
42 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:16:11

Smash and grap ? You mean hope for a fluke ?

This is not even playing for a draw.

It is playing to keep the defeat less than 4-0

I’d prefer to lose 10 -0 but at least have a go rather than play this way.

By the way...quick poll:

Who is to blame

-Injuries
-BK
-DM
- Obama
Other

Vote now and save line after line from Marshy after this

Ste Traverse
43 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:07:50

Our usual pathetic perfomance against United.

Matteo Rosingana
44 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:20:59

I’m tired of being relieved we’re only one-nil down. But that’s just the feeling this team leaves me with. Apart from frustration. Someone posted on here the other day about a game v Man Utd a few seasons back where we really went for it and were unlucky to lose to 3 late, late goals. I’d rather it was that than sit back and invite them to attack. Come on, get at them!

Peter Killey
45 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:23:01

http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=4af0721aa8367

veetle has a perfect picture.
The game is less than, we need to change it up for second half

Gerry Quinn
46 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:26:26

If they counted possession handed back to the opposition we’d be top of the league by miles - SOMEBODY find your own player - please.........it’s driving me insane on this couch!!!!

Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
47 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:27:05

Ian McDowell, wishing for players to be injured shows a distinct lack of class and is not appreciated on this website. Get a grip, lad.

Tony Sullivan
48 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:25:18

Fellaini is a £15 million liability, a red card waiting to happen, slow, limited vision, poor passing. The system needs changing more support up front for Saha

Keith Glazzard
49 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:24:20

Ive got the Russian stream

zulu.mk/live/8

a bit halting, but you’ll see most of the game.

For all their ’dominance’ their keeper has made the only save of the match. No keeper could have saved the falling backwards volley which normally ends up in row O.

Andy Morden
50 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:25:31

Ged - You have never seen BK and Obama in the same room. Thus, they are the same person. Blame Obama! Or is it BK?

David Buck
51 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:26:27

Typical Moyes attitude - defend, defend and defend again, small club mentality and embarrassing

John Martin
52 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:26:28

Surely nobody can be surprised with the way w ehave played. Its the tried and tested moyes way against the big 4 sides, Shit himself, get the team to sit back all game and hope for a free kick or a corner. Teams this season that have got or played well against Man Utd have got into them but Moyes would never dream of attacking away at Utd. Watch next week as we face Liverpool in aterrible run of form we are at home. How will we approach the game ? the same way sit back and defend and watch Liverpool refind their form with a comfortable victory. total shite this season, gutless but no worries injuries are to blame not Moyes he is never at fault.

Ciarán McGlone
53 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:24:55

According to the commentators we are ’disciplined’..I an only interpret this as ’toothless.

Heitinga does a fine impression of Titus Bramble...passing it to oppsing players on the edge of his own box...25 minutes before he gets a touch and then he does that twice..

Long range passing..I’ll assume that was sarcasm.

Twasto be expected...two defnsive mnidfielders..an attacking midfielder who can’t pass playing as a winger and sod all creativity..

poor old Saha..he’s trying and so is Fellaini ..

Men aganst boys..

Star wars is on.

Ste Traverse
54 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:24:33

So BK was seen on tv during the match, i didn’t even realise he was still alive as he’s been keeping a rather low profile during this crap season, im sure it WONT be the case if we win the derby next week. Tosser.

Keith Glazzard
55 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:28:36

.... and by the way, Fletcher should have been booked for simulation when he got Fellaini booked.

Jamie Barlow
56 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:14:52

To anybody still looking for a link, don’t fuckin bother. I’ll tell you how the games going. Same as usual. 11 players in blue looking terrified of receiving the ball and running round like headless chickens. If David Moyes doesn’t change this pile of shite at half time he needs fuckin sortin out. I’m also a bit fucked off that none of the players who were supposed to be back for this game are back. WHERE THE FUCK IS PEINAAR!!!!! This is embarrassing. I’m not watching anymore. 71 to 29 was the possession in that first half. Why should i put myself through it. Saturday night and i’m fuckin well annoyed.

Gerry Quinn
57 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:32:05

Don’t know why, but I am getting a bad feeling about today’s game

Brian Waring
58 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:31:18

Keith, how did Fletcher get Fellaini booked? Fellaini got himself booked with a twat of a tackle.

Mark Fitzgerald
59 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:28:27

I’ve watched so called ’lesser teams’ visit Old Trafford and have a real go at Utd. Yes, most of them will lose out in the end, but it’s great to watch Utd on the back foot and defending fiercely for periods of the match. Surely the ’5th best team’ in the league can do the same. At this stage does anyone disagree that it’s not worth the gamble?

David Marsden
60 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:30:26

FFS.. we are getting over run because we are playing united.

We need to take our opportunities but I feel we seem to waste the ball when in possession too many times.

I do agree that we need 2 up front however but that will put pressure on the midfield.

So its take the risk and go for it or hold in midfield and hope for the chance. Either way its gonna be too tough. Personally I say fuck it and go for it!!

David Buck
61 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:31:45

John Martin, "Surely nobody can be surprised with the way we have played. Its the tried and tested moyes way against the big 4 sides" - totally agree and look at where that has got us - 19 matches without a win against the sky 4.

John Martin
62 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:32:27

29% possesion is embarrissing. But its not Moyes fault its injuries. Well thats what some will have us beleive. imagine if man utd were as good as they have been in recent years or had Ronaldo ? I might have understood Moyes negative approach.

Gordon Crawford
63 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:28:50

David Moyes has done really well for us since he came to the club. But we need someone who likes to play football. This is not good enough anymore. We should give him the rest of the season and then during the summer replace him with someone who is more adventurous. Just really tired of watching the team playing not to concede and anything after that is a bonus. Sorry rant over.

John Gaulton
64 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:40:34

Its only a matter of time until we concede. Our players just have not got the ability to keep the ball.

Andrew Oxton
65 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:42:52

Thats better, come on blues

Andy Morden
66 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:42:32

Ged, You don’t think... surely not.. that because we never see Bin Laden, Obama and BK in the same room, well, that they could be the same person?????

I don’t know how to handle these revelations...

Back to the game, well, we seem to be having more of a go. Second, thank god Owen has left his shooting boots at home....

Ciarán McGlone
67 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:43:56

woah...possession up to 37%...

manna from heaven!

Wilson Tan
68 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:46:16

Much more positive this half. Nothing to lose and Manure is looking suspect at the back.

Kevin Sparke
69 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:43:42

Three things going wrong with Everton

Confidence, confidence and... confidence

Man U are nothing special... some good players but not the great team they once were.

Moyes’ tactics is playing Man U of 3, 4 years ago... NOOOO!!!..... GET AT THE FUCKERS!

Colin Smith
70 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:43:46

Keith, just logged on to the Zulu link, the others all died on me. One question, why is there a pic of Michael Jackson, top left of the screen?

Ged Simpson
71 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:47:29

When we have a full team I think Heitinga may be in it

John Gaulton
72 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:48:16

Doesn’t Moyes realise that we always look better playing 442, but why does he always wait until we go 1-0 down before he changes it.

At least we are showing a bit of a threat now.

Jimmy Saville
73 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:51:05

Luke’s done it. The death star has blown up

Andy Morden
74 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:49:43

I really want the Yak to score. For no other reason apart from the fact that it has been a long time since he potted in the Prem. It would just boost him and inch him along in his recovery. Maybe it is the wine speaking...

Jimmy Crack
75 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:50:32

Is Arteta in the crowd or something?

Andrew Oxton
76 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:51:30

DARREN Ferguson? IDIOT commentator

Matteo Rosingana
77 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:52:11

Jimmy, may the 4th official be with you.

Ged Simpson
78 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:52:45

Well played Yak

Christopher McCullough
79 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:51:02

Better second half blue boys; lets sneak an equaliser! the evertonians are singing their hearts out!

Wilson Tan
80 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:54:38

Interesting sub by Alex Ferguson.

Jimmy Saville
81 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:54:39

May the force (skin) be with you all.......

John Gaulton
82 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:56:55

game over

Matthew Salem
83 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:31:24

Fuck

Wilson Tan
84 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:57:49

2-0 lights out now.

John Gaulton
85 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:58:15

tough run of games coming up...we defo need to beat Hull next week.

Lee Smith
86 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:58:00

What the fuck was Felani doing there? He sould have put it into row fucking Z!

John Martin
87 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:58:20

You play shite you get beat - simples
Just like our manager at times against the top teams.

Ged Simpson
88 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:58:13

Fact is...the pass for the goal is something this team of ours would never have had the calm on the ball to do.

But that is why these lot are up there

Andrew Oxton
89 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:59:56

The mancs singing feed the scousers..your front two are scousers, fucking pricks

Jimmy Saville
90 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:59:36

wish i could fix it for Moyes to have a win against a top 4 team.....

Paul O'Grady
91 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:59:31

Very poor....just when we started to look like a football team.

Wilson Tan
92 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:00:02

Concur with Ged. The 2 goals scored by Manure are fantastic goals and we would have wet our pants if our players were to score those type of goals.

John Gaulton
93 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:00:52

Getting sick of watching the same old rubbish week in week out. Our tactics are too predictable and never change.

Mark Fitzgerald
94 Posted 21/11/2009 at 18:56:03

Just when a distant sense of optimism was creeping back in, we go and concede a second .But I hope the lads keep it going now and show a bit of pride in the shirt. And throw on one of the youngsters for a bit of experience.

John Martin
95 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:02:04

They were great goals by a team that plays football. But this is the most vulnerable man utd team in 20 years and if we had a manager with a bit of bottle we might have gave them a game instead of our usual surrender.

Wilson Tan
96 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:03:03

John, did you see the names on our bench? How ’unpredictable’ do you want us to be?

John Gaulton
97 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:03:57

I agree John Martin. You hit the nail on the head there.

Jimmy Saville
98 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:05:13

butter and hot knives..........................

fuck it

John Gaulton
99 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:05:06

Wilson even when we have a a better bench he will still play a defensive game, which just invites teams onto us.

Matteo Rosingana
100 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:06:13

This feels like we’re a non-league team playing against the champs in a cup tie. Rubbish. Tactically inept, a manager out of his depth?

John Martin
101 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:07:54

This Man utd team has struggled for goals all season, they get 3 against us. Still Moyes is the messiah, IMWt and all that crap. I will spend the next week praying Torres isnt fit because he will rip us apart next week.

Colin Smith
102 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:04:41

getting dicked by 3 & we have Jo & Hibbo warming up according to Radio Merseyside - can somebody tell me why?

Gerry Quinn
103 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:07:51

Distin through - with yrds of space ahead decides to pass - straight to one ot hem...AGGGGGGHH

Brian Waring
104 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:07:21

Wilson, it’s nothing to do with what is on the bench, Moyes has had us playing the same predictable shite for the last 7 years.

John Martin
105 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:09:22

Its ok its not Moyes’ fault its the injuries. Wins are thanks to Moyes defeats are kenwrights fault or injuries.

Jimmy Saville
106 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:10:51

whats more annoying?

1. watching this shite

Or

2. Having to refresh iraqgoals every 2 minutes to watch this shite.

Max Meindl
107 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:10:59

Jeez guy I understand it’s frustrating but did you really expect us to be a great team when we have so many players out injured.

Colin Malone
108 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:12:02

Oh for Lee Carsley, we sure do miss him.

John Martin
109 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:11:55

Their are only a few minutes left so we bring Jo on to replace Saha. No problem with protecting Saha but why not give Baxter a go, he may not be good enough but lets find out, we already know Jo is shite

Brian Waring
110 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:13:01

Give Max the big clock, for the first of the many injuries excuses.

Phil Rodgers
111 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:11:59

What on earth can we take from today?

Ged Simpson
112 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:07:48

Tactics. With a poor team....you attack and get cut to pieces. You defend, and don’t score.

All boils down to an injury ridden squad, no confidence, playing a good team.

And finally, the sad truth, that the top 3 are better than us...

Andrew Oxton
113 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:11:20

We are a soft touch. How have we become so easy to beat again (remembering a few years back) Cant be lescott, can it? injuries? maybe. Discuss

Paul O'Grady
114 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:11:25

How many times will Jo fall over before full time. Answers on a postcard.....

Mark Fitzgerald
115 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:10:37

Jesus, the result is beyond doubt. So why not throw two of the youngsters on for a bit of experience in the last few minutes. Next he’ll switch us back to one up front.

Gordon Crawford
116 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:10:30

Completely agree with you Brian. This brand of football only gets you so far.

John Gaulton
117 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:13:10

Everyone thinks we are going to turn into a great team as soon as the injured players are back..I am not too sure!!

Do you think wehave enough to stay away from relegation?

Kunal Desai
118 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:11:24

The body language of most of these players is shocking. Who is responsible for motivating these players?? 1 PERSON!.....IF we get severely turned over by the shite next weekend Moyes should fuck off. I’ve just about had enough of the cunt and his brand of football!!!

John Martin
119 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:14:05

Max this man utd isnt a great team its a good team thats all. Most of us just want to see us having a good go at them instead of our usual meek surrender

Matteo Rosingana
120 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:13:23

Max, there are 8 full internationals in the team today - they should be able to play better than this. They look afraid though, no composure.

Gavin Ramejkis
121 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:15:31

You should have watched Star Wars instead at least get some entertainment, you know DM is never in a lifetime have the balls to go for it against one of the Sky Four, he’s had seven fucking years and counting so it’s not a surprise.

Phil Rodgers
122 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:14:18

No fight anymore. If moyes is as fed up as he looks then its bound to affect the players. Spreading like a fuckin virus.

John Martin
123 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:16:04

Ged its not just the top 3 that are better than us, Liverpool, Man utd, Spurs & City are as well. Sunderland may well be too. We will get better when Arteta & Jags are back but i’m not expecting that form till February. We have a small squad will we sign anybody in january ? if we do itll be last week as usual.

Colin Smith
124 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:15:18

The injuries line can only be used so far & obviously we would be better with Arteta et al. Its a combination of injuries and a failure to make best use of what we have & we have some good players & this has to be down to the manager.

Jimmy Saville
125 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:17:09

Just think, they will never be able to sack Moyes as they wouldn’t be able to pay him off!

Roll on the next 5 years!

John Martin
126 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:19:27

I meant villa are better than us not Man utd, obvioulsy they are miles better

John Gaulton
127 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:21:11

Its worrying that the teams everyone thinks will go down look better than us.

Chris Perry
128 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:21:33

Moyes, you fucking clueless tactical retard, go and manage Scotland and stop holding Everton back; you are fucking useless.

Ged Simpson
129 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:18:58

I agree John. Just couldn’t talk about The Shite.

I think we should pehaps go for that Wigan manager .

John Martin
130 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:22:27

No Neville no fight in the team. Makes me laugh when people wanted Cahill or Yobo to replace him as captain. Moyes the messiah will save the day i am sure

Ciarán McGlone
131 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:23:17

The death star is fucked..aparently the empire allowed Mr Vader to put three right backs in charge of it,,,,,

Mark Fitzgerald
132 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:16:59

"Let's have a right go. If we go down, at least we’ll go down fighting". Posted that at start of game. Now here we are 3-0 losers and this after a defensive performance. No doubt Davey will defend his tactics and tell us how good his buddy Alex’s team is. I’m just getting tired of the same old drivel.

Gordon Crawford
133 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:23:36

Yeah the Wigan manager would be a great move and he wouldnt cost much.

Ste Lewis
134 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:18:03

I don’t really know what people expected to see. Did no-one predict one-way traffic and a sound defeat? They needed this, we needed not to be embarassed. A sad but true indictment given our current malaise. To call our manager a ’cunt’ seems harsh.

Colin Malone
135 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:13:31

Why do we replace with the same old same old? bringing forwards on to play in other positions, when we have subs who play in them positions.
Nothing to lose so give them experience FFS.

Ciarán McGlone
136 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:28:00

’No Neville no fight in the team’
-----------------------

somebody, shoot me.

Brian Waring
137 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:27:30

Ste, I expected to at least have a go.We knew before the game that a defeat was probalby on the cards, but to just fucking roll over is just taking the piss out of those fans who spent their hard earned cash.

Chris Jones
138 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:29:13

Probably the best group of individual players since Howard (first time round), but probably the least enjoyable to watch - no buzz at all anymore.

I’ll be at the KC but my 30 plus game a season loyalty is wearing pretty thin. Mikel and Pienaar are big misses.

Chris Jones
139 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:34:13

David - you had a ticket but didn’t go???!!!

Andrew Oxton
140 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:41:01

In answer to the title question at the top of the page.......NO. Come on blues we need more next time.

Russell Buckley
141 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:54:30

That game was like all those bad prison movies when the weak skinny guy gets put in a cell with a huge redneck called bubba.

Just have to erase that one from the memory banks.

Ste Traverse
142 Posted 21/11/2009 at 19:50:06

Typical gutless Old Trafford defeat. The shite haven’t won for ages so it's a dab hand they’ll end that next week and be able to rub our nose in it regards the dreaded green light for Kirkby at the same time. Dire times indeed!

Harvey Miller
143 Posted 21/11/2009 at 20:16:51

This one was a forgettable match, that’s it. We never looked like we were going to get anything from the game. I don't understand how inferior teams get results at OT and we never do well there.

Our defence was ok but we played too deep. Saha was good in the attack with no real service or help. The problem was the midfield or basically the lack of it. We had two holding midfielders (defenders by trade!) who played very deep.

Fellaini is no playmaker so we had no threat from midfield. He looked lazy and uninterested. Gosling is too young and may not ever make it. Cahill tried but his best position is the other striker playing behind the centre forward. That left us totally helpless against a pretty mediocre ManU side which scored from about every decent chance they got.

There is no accusing the list of unavailables: we had 13 professionals onboard, only flair and guile was missing.

Howard (7): did what he could .
Neill (7): OK, solid defending and much more better passing than Hibbo.
Yobo (6): Did Ok too, but some dodgy moments.
Distin (7): Good overall.
Baines (6): Not one of his better games.
Gosling (5): Not there yet.
Heitinga (7): He moves like a carriership but the passing is great.
Rodwell (6): Not so good as in some other games but the promise is there. He turns more quickly with the ball than any player in the PL.
Fellaini (4): we have to get rid of him.
Cahill (6): Tried but no end result.
Saha (7): He was very good in a very difficult situation: he tackled, won headers and overall wanted to score against his old club.
Yakubu (6)sub: It was nice to see Moyes trying to change things early. One of the most intelligent players around, but he’s still not the same he was a year ago.